I've been doing a lot of research, and reading on the G1 forum, but i was just curious what you guys thought about the new Tmobile G1. It looks like a really slick phone and I'm seriously thinking about ordering it.
I know a lot of people will post the "its awesome" pitch.... but honestly
pros: extremely powerful hardware with a very stable operating system.
cons: the operating system is very new... meaning that there is no real software or rom development out there for it.... meaning no customization. (and currently no real games at all!!!! lol)
conclusion: im happy enough with my wing that i PERSONALLY will stick with it for a while (especially with ttrans new 7.4 rom - great performance and plenty of space).... as soon as some real progress is made in development for android i will buy a G1
I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!
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I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!
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Well if your that type of person then you will only be entertained by the G1 for about a week... i've been doing some reseach on it and most of the reviews say that its pretty basic and needs work by developers! the only reason i would get one is the fact that it has the hardware to support 3G..but my location wont have it till next year so im happy with my wing!!
i personally love my wing
i can see my self upgrading to the touch pro instead of the g1
i ilke the innovative look the the g1 but if i get some hand on with it i can see which phone i will go to
i have had a lot of hands on with the touch diamond so i can fix a lot of the issues with the touch pro if i get it
Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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i think i will i do want to try the g1 but i dont like how limited the 3g coverage is but it does look like a good phone
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Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research.
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I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research.
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amen to that
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amen to that
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Hey congrats on your 100th post. You are officially a SENIOR member. Glad I could help!
i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents
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i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents
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Nah, I'm going to wait and do more research and see what programs, roms, and games become available. I think I'll stick with the wing for now, and just mod and flash roms every other week! lol. But, the G1 is only 179 so thats a huge price drop. Either way, I really can't wait to see what becomes available for the G1.
what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening
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what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening
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You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?
G1 vs Wing
This month in PC Magazine (October 2008) Sascha Sagan, the director of new product reviews, said this,"never buy a product in the first few weeks after it comes out. Wait a month. By then... you will be able to tell if something is really worth a buy".
My two cents,
Paul D.
G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.
Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).
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G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.
Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).
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Yeah I agree. Seeing how this phone is really meant to be modified, I can't even imagine the amount of software, roms, mods, etc there will be for this phone. I do think it will take some time, so I believe I will hold off, but I'm pretty excited about it.
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You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?
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that is exactly what i want. i just want to keep useing windows mobile. it has been around for ever (ce). hopefully someone in the linux community will figure out how to flash it to what ever you want.
I am a G1/Wing owner. I got my G1 2 days ago and i can tell you, i am very happy with the phone so far. I do miss using TTran's OPT and hope they port TouchFlo2D to Android. The Manilla Theme is the best i've seen!
I am also one of those people that would much rather run Linux on my PCs at home, but don't because i am in the IT field so i need to stay current on Windows. Anyhow, I understand people wanting to wait and recommend most do that. I am not usually the type to jump on a product at Version 1 until some updates and public testing has been done. But i am looking forward to Android's growing pains!
I just upgraded to a G1. What I did was, when the G1 presale was announced, I called to say I was going to cancel my service soon and asked what they would offer to keep me. The CS rep asked what I had in mind. I said I wanted the to see if there was a way to get the G1 with 1 a year contract. The CS rep told me not until after the actual launch but she would lower my unlimited family text messaging to $9.99 permanently if I would wait until the launch to decide. I agreed. So today, I called back for the G1. They offered me the G1 for $179 + NO $18 upgrade fee if I agreed to keep my four lines for 1 year. So, that's what I did. I wasn't going to cancel anyway because, it's hard top beat T-Mo's rates, even if the coverage is a little weaker than other carriers in my area. My Wing will likely be up for sale after I evaluate the G1.
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I just canceled my order. I don't want to put $800 on the line to save $300.
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I feel that after the big verizon and alltel gps cracks that there has been a lack in cool things happening for the titan. I realize that there are much better devices out there but I don't consider the titan ready to roll over a die just yet. Now more than ever I am feeling restricted by ghost 64 mb of ram. I've always had the most bad ass 'phone' of anybody that I know but I feel almost like I've done it all. I feel like android is a waste of time, because the iu is cool but I really can't see my self using it on a day to day and the amount of add-ons one would need to get it running smoothly would most likely eat up memory anyway (don't hate just my opinion). Maybe someone could cheer me up with something new I don't know about. Thanks ahead of time.
You still have No2chem working on his ROM over at ppcgeeks and maybe DCD will pop out another ROM, but the Titan is now a discontinued device. While popular, it never had the developer interest that the Apache did, so I expect development will fall off more rapidly. Fortunately, the current stuff like DCD's ROM work really well and my Mogul has a whole lot less headache factor than it did 6 months ago. Unfortunately, if you're bored and looking for new toys, you're going to be disappointed. Due to low RAM, we will probably be unable to acceptably run much of the software being developed with the Diamond, Touch Pro and beyond in mind. FWIW, barring a catastrophic failure, I intend to keep using my Mogul for at least the next year. My intention is to skip the diamond/touch pro generation completely with the hope that the next gen Android phones or another OS will free me from the old pig that is WM.
Thanks for the reply
I agree with you the touch diamond is not worth dropping almost 6 hundro for. I would spend the money if I thought it was. I am also pissed about the carrier fights because I used to work for verizon and hate them now and t-mobile's coverage in this area sucks bad, sprints customer service and williness to work with on issues is the absolute worst, and AT&T isn't even worth talking about, so I am happiest with alltel as far as price and service goes, but they are always about 4-6 months behind. And the G1 is a great concept but my buddy's really didn't impress me but I've been reading about the Touch HD (aka G2) and it looks like the phone I'd really like to have but they have no intentions right now of cdma functionality. So i just feel a little stuck. I am very impatient with these things.
On a closing note I will also agree that DCD's 3.2.xxx has been very near perfection. No more freezing. That is probably the most embarrassing thing to happen. You give someone your phone and tell them to use live search to go look at something then, boom, your phone freezes and you know they are thinking the thing that most pissess me off, 'Well it's definitely no iPhone.' The thing that makes you just want to wrap their hair up in your hand and knee them in the face a dozen times because you know the iphone doesn't have half the functionality your titan but you can't do anything but live with it because ****ing windows locked up because you have conflicting software. Anyway praise DCD for his latest because he has saved many peoples faces from my knee.
FYI, DCD has a post on this board with his intentions of going to the Diamond. On PPCGeeks, there is at least 5 ROM developers working on the Touch Pro CDMA and they all seem to be headed in that direction. I'm not sure what GC is planning on upgrading to. I expect the titan specific development to go away in the next 6 months, but there is always the more generic development of just Windows Mobile apps on this board as well as others that will continue.
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What is your phone of choice now adays?
i still have the titan. i'm trying to get a diamond. not getting raphael.
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i have made a raphael kitchen and its no different from diamond. just some different oemapps.
i dont need the keyboard or care about the ram. i get the diamond cheaper and its thinner. the keyboard driver on titan is dissapointing to the point that i wish i had bought vogue (plus android doesnt work on my titan..). i do my typing at a pc, i only need to type on my phone when im driving, and the qwerty doesnt help there.
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Some of the people working on the Touch Pro.
SSPL, HSPL, relocker made by cmonex, Wrappers by olinex, SD flasher and relocker (coming soon) by no2chem. thanks to NexVision (btw I'm really sorry), zule/Shadowmite and no2chem for testing!!!
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The core team is made up of Astainhellbring, LennySh, Olipro, Cmonex, MrVanx, LTxda and a few others Also joining us is a local favorite, no2chem. Some of these names you've heard and some you haven't but rest assured, it's all about quality and professionalism here.
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no2chem already has his Touch Pro and is working on ROMs for it.
I picked up a Sprint Touch Pro today, so I thought I’d write about my experience with it thus far, and what the future might hold for it…
The Sprint Touch Pro is, dare I say, the best phone you can buy for the CDMA market. I’d go even further to say that the Sprint Touch Pro is the best phone you can buy in the United States. Yes, AT&T has the Fuze, which is essentially the same thing, with nicer looks, you’ll be locked to AT&T’s poor excuse for a data network. Granted, its not nearly as bad as T-Mobile’s nonexistent network, you’ll probably get only sub-par speeds on AT&T, as their HSDPA deployment is rather weak. Sprint, on the other hand, has EvDO well deployed in pretty much all metropolitan areas. On top of that, Sprint’s data plan is very affordable, while AT&T’s data plan costs a ridiculous $60/month. But enough about the carrier, and more about why this phone is pure bliss…
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Yep, if you are bored and bothered by 64 megs, its time to jump ship while there is still demand. I sold my mogul for ~$200 on ebay a few weeks ago.
Yea, I know I just hate to drop the money now with great devices on the way, like I said my buddie's diamond is very laggy so I'm not really interested in droping $600 for something that is like stepping from mustang 6 cylinder mustang to a GT. By all means it is a much better device but still I think the screen could be larger, could have more memory, could have a less buggy ui (which dcd will probably work out), could have more expandable memory, plus I'm cdma which means I don't get that cool diamondish look. I think I'm going to have to just stick my thumb in my ass and wait for cdma's next big improvement which I think we'll happen sooner than later. I am hoping android will be a more widely used platform, as it looks to have a lot of potential.
So a year ago when I bought this phone I apparently paid $500 to be a beta tester of an underperforming, premature, lackluster phone. I've lost alot of time behind this phone's malfunctions. yeah it's cool that I can tweak it and write software for it, but if everything locks the phone up whats the point.
well it froze for the 1 millionth and last time this morning. I witnessed "The Flight of the Mogul", and it was freakin awesome.
I'm over cell phones, I'd go back to smoke signals if i didn't run the risk of arson.
i think we all feel your pain. I'm just biding my time until i can afford a replacement. Likely ill wait the one more year or so till my contract is up and go to an iphone lol.
I would have gladly taken that sucker off your hands.
Good, glad to hear it you smashed your mogul. Meanwhile while yours lays in pieces mine is giving me the power playing movies flawlessly in skyfire, giving me perfect voice guided navigation from IGO 8, the piece of mind of the newest windows live speakable search, fast email and texting with a full qwerty keyboard, the power to retrieve files off my desktop at home, perfect access to my IM accounts, and new home screens whenever I grow tired of one. And you know the one thing I haven't worried about since DCD 3.x.x is ram. Everything runs smoothly and transitions like men in your mom's bedroom. Trash the mogul in some other forum, because for the majority of us it works perfectly. Compare it now to the problems the diamond has. I think you'll agree it has far less at this point. I will do fine on carrying me into the next generation. Nothing except the touch hd is really worth getting excited about right now and it is having trouble making it to the US. Why don't you just go get a blackberry storm? It is easier to use for you.
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I would have gladly taken that sucker off your hands.
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sorry, i would only give that phone to my worst enemy...
i'm not finished with it yet anyway. I still have plans to run over my HTC Titan with my Nissan Titan.
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Good, glad to hear it you smashed your mogul. Meanwhile while yours lays in pieces mine is giving me the power playing movies flawlessly in skyfire, giving me perfect voice guided navigation from IGO 8, the piece of mind of the newest windows live speakable search, fast email and texting with a full qwerty keyboard, the power to retrieve files off my desktop at home, perfect access to my IM accounts, and new home screens whenever I grow tired of one. And you know the one thing I haven't worried about since DCD 3.x.x is ram. Everything runs smoothly and transitions like men in your mom's bedroom. Trash the mogul in some other forum, because for the majority of us it works perfectly. Compare it now to the problems the diamond has. I think you'll agree it has far less at this point. I will do fine on carrying me into the next generation. Nothing except the touch hd is really worth getting excited about right now and it is having trouble making it to the US. Why don't you just go get a blackberry storm? It is easier to use for you.
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I'm happy for you. I admit that the only thing I haven't done is flash to a custom ROM, believe it or not I downloaded the latest DCD this weekend but never got around to it. I think the moral to the story is that the ability to customize a device with unofficial ROM's should not be the saving grace of an otherwise poor performing device. I believe that it should be an extra, cool thing to do for geek cred, not because the phone sucks otherwise. what's so hard about optimizing the phone for its hardware before release.
I've been riding it out for a long time, thru all the updates and ports of apps from other HTC's. So i think I'll just wait until the Raphael is improved upon, atleast it has a reasonable amount of memory.
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So a year ago when I bought this phone I apparently paid $500 to be a beta tester of an underperforming, premature, lackluster phone. I've lost alot of time behind this phone's malfunctions. yeah it's cool that I can tweak it and write software for it, but if everything locks the phone up whats the point.
well it froze for the 1 millionth and last time this morning. I witnessed "The Flight of the Mogul", and it was freakin awesome.
I'm over cell phones, I'd go back to smoke signals if i didn't run the risk of arson.
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LOL LOL LOL
I just posted a thread (please read its titled HELP!!!!!!) and then i turn around and see yours and all i can tsay is whew! not the only one today! LOL
By the way I ordered my new storm, have it soon. goodbye to WM, just gonna reflash back to stock and let wife have this damn thing
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LOL LOL LOL
I just posted a thread (please read its titled HELP!!!!!!) and then i turn around and see yours and all i can tsay is whew! not the only one today! LOL
By the way I ordered my new storm, have it soon. goodbye to WM, just gonna reflash back to stock and let wife have this damn thing
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I feel you. a friend of mine has it, and it's nice, but i can't roll with Verizon, plus i dont want to be apart of the crackberry scene, and i dont want to sell my soul to Apple, so I'll probably stick with WM, At the end of the day, m$ has the most mature API. i been drinkin their koolaid for my entire career.
but in the meantime I guess I'll resort to some good 'ol fashioned yodeling.
If you have had this much trouble than no matter how you look at it, the only reason you've had so much trouble is user error. If you don't know how to properly install and cook apps and roms, then get the f out of the kitchen homie. The mogul is for people who understand devices and computers or for those who want to learn. If you are looking for a cool devices that has not even a quarter of the programing capabilities than buy a storm or iphone. They are pretty. Or buy the diamond or the touch pro and be in the same boat. The mogul is old now and it still is running with the big boys and now more than ever doing it reliably. You have a problem with installing custom roms. Its called sdk my friends. Windows did the bare minimum to release the platform and then put it in the developers hands. Developers like dcd that have more talent in their little finger than most the people at microsoft or blackberry or apple. Wait for the standard blackberry and apple updates then as they are behind from the moment they are released. And mark my words, if you have trouble with the mogul you will have trouble with any htc device. They all have their ups and downs though the touch and the mogul's downs are pretty close to having them all worked out.
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If you have had this much trouble than no matter how you look at it, the only reason you've had so much trouble is user error. If you don't know how to properly install and cook apps and roms, then get the f out of the kitchen homie. The mogul is for people who understand devices and computers or for those who want to learn. If you are looking for a cool devices that has not even a quarter of the programing capabilities than buy a storm or iphone. They are pretty. Or buy the diamond or the touch pro and be in the same boat. The mogul is old now and it still is running with the big boys and now more than ever doing it reliably. You have a problem with installing custom roms. Its called sdk my friends. Windows did the bare minimum to release the platform and then put it in the developers hands. Developers like dcd that have more talent in their little finger than most the people at microsoft or blackberry or apple. Wait for the standard blackberry and apple updates then as they are behind from the moment they are released. And mark my words, if you have trouble with the mogul you will have trouble with any htc device. They all have their ups and downs though the touch and the mogul's downs are pretty close to having them all worked out.
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pump your brakes. it'll be ok.
Do you need me to draw you a schematic to pump yours?
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Do you need me to draw you a schematic to pump yours?
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please do.
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please do.
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Good one. Loewst, sir, as much as I enjoy this written pissing contest with you I think what's said and done is said and done. You're an idiot and broke one of the top 15 if not top ten devices out there, which I'm not entirely sure you did. Probably woke up this morning and decided to put up a bull**** post because you were bored. Whatever the case this is probably my last post for today because I get out of work in an hour. Enjoy your smashed plastic. I buy and move so many moguls to people that love them that proves you to be just a little drama queen. Peace out.
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Good one. Loewst, sir, as much as I enjoy this written pissing contest with you I think what's said and done is said and done. You're an idiot and broke one of the top 15 if not top ten devices out there, which I'm not entirely sure you did. Probably woke up this morning and decided to put up a bull**** post because you were bored. Whatever the case this is probably my last post for today because I get out of work in an hour. Enjoy your smashed plastic. I buy and move so many moguls to people that love them that proves you to be just a little drama queen. Peace out.
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ok Sweety Puss.
i don't take it personal. but yes i did smash my phone. lol.
I feel for you.
Just today I opened up the Media Player, went to the music library, and noticed one of my albums was in there TWICE. I couldn't believe it. I had to do an 'update library' just to get rid of it. I thought about throwing it under a truck. The horror of it all.
I'll bet by this Friday, I'll have even have to do a soft reset again. I already did one LAST WEEK. Uncalled for.
Flaming POS.
What's funny is that the 6800 seems to have the least appeal to two sets of users. IMO there are four broad categories of users:
1. Casuals
2. Intermediates
3. advanced
4. Pushers
Casuals are people like my mom. You know them. They want a phone but don't know the first thing about how to do anything with them. Believe it or not, the 6800 is just fine for them. You can use the standard WM 6 interface right out of the box and it serves as a very nice pcoket computer and cell phone. You see, casual users don't need a bunch of fancy tricks and special apps. They are happy to simply get a cell phone, camera, qwerty key board, and push email and pim. Nevertheless, casual users are apt to enjoy the neat interface of the iphone or storm.
Intermediates are very likely not to enjoy the 6800. Why? Because they know just enough to be dangerous. Just enough to flash a ROM improperly or load up their phone with a hundred apps and then complain when their phone becomes unstable. They get frustrated and do things like throw their phones in the air when they have no one but themselves to blame.
Advanced users, I think, like the 6800 because of its work-horse reputation, functionality, and its modability. Advanced users know how to keep their phones trim and fit and in good shape so that it doesn't crash all the time. They know how to mange their ROM and use the phone with as great efficiency as possible.
Pushers like to push the boundaries of the phone world. They are not happy unless they have the latest and greatest of everything. Latest features....latest hardware....latest software. Pushers will hate the 6800, just as they will, frankly, end up hating anything that was released more than 3 months ago. Why? Because vy then the next latest and greatest gadget is released and, by God, they have to have it!
I LOVE my 6800. It does almost everything I could ask of it. The only thing it really lacks, IMO, is a g-sensor, and so far other than the cute use as a bubble level for handyman work, all of the g-sensor stuff seems to fit in the amusing pout pointless category.
People are constantly amazed at what my 6800 can do. I have had iphone users, even after the app store opened, literally downtrodden after everything they showed me they could do I could do and then I went on and did about a dozen things they could not do.
I have complete voice navigation and gps. I have finger friendly and flick friendly apps up the ying-yang. I get the full web experience and can view streaming videos and flash and you tube on the net.
I have voice activation. I have weather. I have swappable memory (try that iphone freaks) and have every single song and most of my movie library on my phone. I recently took a 12 hour flight by myself in a jet that had a power outlet at every seat and I needed nothing with me but my phone to keep me not only out of boredom but actually entertained.
My 6800 is my office...anywhere I go. I can access my desktop at work remotely. I can not only view but create and edit Word and Excel docs. Need a quick deal memo during an important business meeting at lunch? I can take notes with my stylus BY HAND, then type them up into a Word Doc deal memo and email it to an office to have it printed. I can then run some figures in Pocket Excel to project the proceeds from the deal. All in the restaurant over lunch.
And I have yet to see ANY software keyboard come close to the hardware keyboard of the 6800. The iphone keyboard sucks. So does the diamond and the storm. They all suck...by definition. My hardware keyboard is large, usable with my big thumbs, and doesn't take up an inch of screen real estate. Can you say that of the iphone? The storm? The Touch?
I fully understand the RAM issue, but holy crud...just how many toys do you need running at the same time on your phone? I do plenty on the 6800 and I don't mind the RAM. Yeah, I suppose it could load in 2 seconds instead of 4. But who except a PUSHER would care?
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Nicely put Devin! I don't think I love my Mogul quite as much as you, but it will do till significantly better hardware comes my way.
Some people take this hobby a bit to seriously. others, apparently need anger management counseling. in the end, it's just another PPC. an I bet the OP is just eating all this attention up. reminds me of my over spoiled girlfriends kids. wannna just whack em with a newspaper! heh. Lighten up people.
I wanted to rip into him some more but now I feel on his level so I am editing this post to save myself. Thank you devinc. Meanwhile, sin-cal if you want to be a father figure join the Dr. Phil forum and let us nerdy types continue with our verbal jousting, cool with you?
sweeny, your post is amusing. father figure, let the nerds squabble amongst themselves. So, first off, wasn't talking to you. secondly, I think i'm allowed to post my thoughts and feelings. so, continue on with your so called, nerd jousting. dad will just close the bedroom door while sparky plays big boy on the computer.
Im thinking of getting the My touch from Tmobile. I have the TP2 but dont care much for it. I have done some reading here, but would like to get some advice from My Touch owners. Last question, is the Hero Roms working good?
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Im thinking of getting the My touch from Tmobile. I have the TP2 but dont care much for it. I have done some reading here, but would like to get some advice from My Touch owners. Last question, is the Hero Roms working good?
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as far as using it on the mt? honestly im disappointed with it i never use the touchflo (which is the sense ui look) but i like the htc features so i just use those... sprint will have the real hero coming out this month if you want it that bad but if you dont care about speed and dont mind waiting at least a minute every time you hit the home key for it to load then go for it but its just too slow for me
**i must say i love the size of the mt3g its way slimmer than the tp2 and g1 which was a hugh plus for me and reason i still use it
Samsung Galaxy Lite.
There are 4-5 registered Android devices said to be dropping Q4 of this year for T-Mobile USA.
The MyTouch is fantastic. I have a G1 as a spare for development and testing. However, there will always be a growing trend with "the next best thing."
Keep in mind, there's a lot of this year LEFT to go. Keep your options open...open-source that is! HA!
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There are 4-5 registered Android devices said to be dropping Q4 of this year for T-Mobile USA.
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i believe its 12-14 by the end of '09 among all the carriers so i must agree with that, theres a lot of the year left
Correct indeed.
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i believe its 12-14 by the end of '09 among all the carriers so i must agree with that, theres a lot of the year left
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He makes a valid point as well.
It just depends on what you can afford for the various data packages offered by the carriers.
My preference being: T-Mobile USA!
Fantastic service, loyal to them for almost 8 years now. Nothing but positive experiences with them.
Like I said though...the MyTouch is nice, but hold off...it could be worth it.
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Im thinking of getting the My touch from Tmobile. I have the TP2 but dont care much for it. I have done some reading here, but would like to get some advice from My Touch owners. Last question, is the Hero Roms working good?
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I am using a mytouch and love it. This is my first android phone and I don't think I will ever go back to windows mobile. These phones are more versatile and the interface is whatever you want it to be.
I don't use a hero ROM on it because I have heard too much about it being slow. I will wait for the optimized version to show up before trying that.
I was going to get the TP2 but the cost put me off. I am glad it was too expensive now. Showing off this phone to people at work has made 3 other people get an android phone.
I Dont know that holding off will do you any good.. I have seen the specs for the other droid phone that tmo us is supposed to get this year (well all of whats available) and honestly the mt3g is I think still the best one (assumeing you want a non keyboard slim phone)..
I know there is supposed to be some lower end ones coming out, but if you have the TP2 now I am guessing that doesn't really interest you..
It's crazy. The phone is great, it's what I've wanted for years. I got it just today and besides having to get used to the on-screen keyboard I must say it is the best phone I have ever used.
The Rhodium, in retrospect, was a clunky machine, and one of the best windows had to offer. This late in the game though, just an antiquated OS. I am so happy to be done with a Windows.
Why the thread?
Do you, geeks that we are, find no one in your immediate circle who understands?
I got home and am soooo satisfied win my decision, no longer having to tinker and be OCD, I know, not very geeky. Just I think I have been spending a bit to much time modifying and not enjoying my phone. I also didn't want be in he hands of Steve and the fruit phone.
Any similar stories...
Mine stopped vibrating after 5 seconds, apart from that great phone.
Quick tip: Setup haptic feedback on the keyboard if you haven't already. It truly makes a touchscreen keyboard 5x easier to use/learn.
I'm basing my opinion on haptic with the N1 vs. non-haptic w/ my iTouch. It's nice to have "something" that tells you that you just pressed something.
Also, learn to use the auto-correct. Especially holding down new words/names that it normally "tries" to auto-correct. (Such as "app(s), Haha, and various others that the phone tries to correct to really odd words) (Haha, will default to BAHAMAS!!!... WTF?)
Just thought I'd try to be useful
I know exactly what you mean... I got a TyTN II and the first thing I did was flash a custom ROM so it would actually be useable... then, after about 6 months, I found out I could run Android on it... really well! After a couple months of looking at it, I finally took the plunge to see what Android was all about, not thinking I would be blown away, especially considering I was running it on a WM device.
What did I discover? Android ran better on my Kaiser than WM did! I was hooked, and a couple months later got myself a G1 to replace the Kaiser... The G1 still had some issues, IMO, in terms of speed and found myself still flashing customer ROMs, but it wasn't out of total neccesity at least.. and now, I have a Nexus One, which is hands down the best phone I have ever experienced! I don't even feel like it is needed to put a custom ROM on it, I have and will again, but the stock experience is more than fulfilling!
Mate, I get the exact same feeling.. No one really "gets" me when it comes to this phone.
It's just a phone they say, what does it do that your HTC Diamond doesn't? Seriously.. the only thing I can come up with, is it has a flash.. But we know it's so much more than that, don't we?
I've already been told by a few people; "oh don't buy googles first phone, it'll have lots of bugs, you should wait till the second release." Little do they know nor understand.
First moment I got my Diamond I flashed it because it had too much carrier crap on it. Who wants everything to be customized by someone else.. Seriously..
*Eagerly awaiting my new shiny phone*
I was quite surprised by no real bugs to be seen or heard of myself. I was wary of the purchase, but easily the best one I ever decided upon.
I'm still trying to see if the great developer folks figure out a re-lock... But every day I'm considering rooting... Ugh!
I can connect to my home PC (Edit: from anywhere with 3G) and mouse and keyboard around on it using the Remote RDP program for Android. I find this impresses people fairly well.
I'm fine with using Gmote for free to pull any music/video to my phone... Still haven't hopped onto the paid apps bandwagon yet. Still working my way through the free apps, to get a grasp on what I like, and don't like.
But, it would be nice to have even more control remotely. I'm just staying in minimal-mode for a bit.
I'm surrounded by iPhone and BB users, most of which are completely, utterly technologically illiterate--I'm talking about people who don't even understand processor speeds/RAM size, so they can't even appreciate how fast the Snapdragon is. People who aren't users of either want one. "Android" is like Greek to them.
I do know a few geeky people, but they're rare around here. :/
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I know exactly what you mean... I got a TyTN II and the first thing I did was flash a custom ROM so it would actually be useable... then, after about 6 months, I found out I could run Android on it... really well! After a couple months of looking at it, I finally took the plunge to see what Android was all about, not thinking I would be blown away, especially considering I was running it on a WM device.
What did I discover? Android ran better on my Kaiser than WM did! I was hooked, and a couple months later got myself a G1 to replace the Kaiser... The G1 still had some issues, IMO, in terms of speed and found myself still flashing customer ROMs, but it wasn't out of total neccesity at least.. and now, I have a Nexus One, which is hands down the best phone I have ever experienced! I don't even feel like it is needed to put a custom ROM on it, I have and will again, but the stock experience is more than fulfilling!
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I did the exact same thing man. I had the first gen iPhone for about a month, hated it. Then got the AT&T tilt, and flashed a custom rom on it. I worked at T-Mobile, and my co-workers would say, I should just go work for at&t lol, then I finally got the G1 a week before launch and fell in love with android. Its the best OS I could have asked for and knew it would be a winner. Then up until 2 days ago, I finally received the nexus one and WOW, it is so much faster, i'm still shocked. I haven't rooted or installed a new rom because I don't think it needs it. It runs great stock. Awesome phone, that I think only us xda nerds know how to appreciate. It really a great device upgrade for those of us who had stuck with the G1 for so long.
Nice feedback
I made a thread saying why I moved in the Rhodium forum and should have known better. I just wanted to share. They are letting me have it.
But it is so true, this device is a great medium. Customizable, elegant, powerful, what more could we ask for(lets further he Convo)?
Glad you guys love it. I'm looking forward to getting one for my wifey while I get the HD2.
Well then she can hang with the best and you can hang with the rest
I tend to explain the phone as "a netbook with a phone feature that fits in you hand." The specs truly are that of a netbook.
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I tend to explain the phone as "a netbook with a phone feature that fits in you hand." The specs truly are that of a netbook.
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Exactly! It is a great device with great specs...
No question... the N1 is the best phone I've had.
Love my G1 and still use it but my N1 is my dress to impress phone...
Agreed.
Noone has a clue enough to appreciate it.
Unlike the iPhone it doesnt have a hype machine to make people desire it.
For selfish reasons I dont want too many people having them. Id prefer everyone knowing about and wanting one..but few actually having it.
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Agreed.
Noone has a clue enough to appreciate it.
Unlike the iPhone it doesnt have a hype machine to make people desire it.
For selfish reasons I dont want too many people having them. Id prefer everyone knowing about and wanting one..but few actually having it.
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Haha! Amen to that!
I see everyone drooling over the Nexus One all 'round.
But when it comes to their next phone, most of the techno-illiterati
will plump for a BB or an iPhone.
And that, in my book, is as it should be
This phone is for true connoisseurs.
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Haha! Amen to that!
I see everyone drooling over the Nexus One all 'round.
But when it comes to their next phone, most of the techno-illiterati
will plump for a BB or an iPhone.
And that, in my book, is as it should be
This phone is for true connoisseurs.
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You guys know that's how we all felt when we got our Wizards and Hermes right. It's a great feeling that comes when a phone is done right.
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Why you hatin on me galaxys? I love the features of this phone but enjoy WM also. Can't I have more than one woman?
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Why you hatin on me galaxys? I love the features of this phone but enjoy WM also. Can't I have more than one woman?
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OK, that's cool More than one woman and device has also been an obsession of mine as well
Hey Just learned that T-Mobile and so are discontinuing the HD2 on July 1st, Anyone know why? I know the Stock roms were crap and froze up and people returned it. But once modified its been a solid pocket pc for me. Anyone know whats going on or if there is a recall or something? Why is the HD2 already going out or do they plan to bring something like the EVO in its place?
Official Source?
T-Mobile store, then various links I came across, even vodaphone.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD2/HTC-HD2-is-Discontinued-as-of-July-1st/td-p/390091
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2009/12/16...peculation-hints-at-possible-apple-influence/
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=80103832e12f380128b3aa6e69007bc5
As it is, the HD2 dropped from 544$ to 499$ in just a short time.
Extremely old news on the Vodafone front, and that T-Mobile USA thread you referenced is completely unfounded. Rumors floating across the interwebs.
EDIT: Also as far as I remember, the phone came in at $449 and is still the same price.
Well while the thread might not mean anything, Talking to the T-Mobile store ppl sure does mean something to me.
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Well while the thread might not mean anything, Talking to the T-Mobile store ppl sure does mean something to me.
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lol, is that the same t mo staff who absolutely assured several people win P 7 upgrade would be coming? Store staff know fugg all, unless they also happen to be phone nerds too, which most aren't.
However, I can see tmo ditching it fairly soon, i mean, they sold a shed load of them, and now the margin will drop more, plus they will have had a ton of returns/complaints/problems meaning headaches for tech support, , sounds reasonable to think they'll be clearing out some of the more awkward lines ready for the wp7 range later this year.
Yea thats the reason I was told it will be cause of all the returns on it, which I work on phones.. so many customers I had where I put a custom rom on it, which of course makes it smoother. ^^ (Energy wee)
Considering Walmart and Amazon both dropped the contract cost to $50, and that TMOUS has a lot of android phones coming out. I would say the likelihood of HD2 being discontinued is pretty high. Doesn't really matter to me, I got mine and I'm happy with it.
pretty sure tmoUS said that the HD2 would only make a limited run for 3 or so months...so I wouldn't doubt the july 1st date.
The question is.. is the HD2 really that bad not to live that long? Granted I guess once Android gets working on the HD2, Ill be a happy camper too ^^
this phone looked nice but i'm really disappointed in what you can get for the phone. no decent tv apps. it seems loads of trouble getting any apps. and flash player don't even work.
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this phone looked nice but i'm really disappointed in what you can get for the phone. no decent tv apps. it seems loads of trouble getting any apps. and flash player don't even work.
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I thought there is a flash player fix? My only real gripe on it is that the youtube app.. doesnt let you see your youtube stored favorites...
your nexus link is old (12/2009) and this has been VF policy since mid December, (after all the rumours that VF Uk where pulling the HD2).
Still a good seller, they even relented and started to issue Firmware upgrades.
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Granted I guess once Android gets working on the HD2, Ill be a happy camper too ^^
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The problem is... no one seems to be willing to work on an Android release for the HD2 hardware, which is odd considering the EVO/Incredible are very similar... The only "Android on HTC/HD2" threads I have found are actually GNU type linux distros... While they're cool, they're still not quite what most of us are looking for.
I'm actually trying to sell my HD2 and weasel out of my 2-year contract so I can go get either the Incredible or the EVO4g.
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The problem is... no one seems to be willing to work on an Android release for the HD2 hardware, which is odd considering the EVO/Incredible are very similar... The only "Android on HTC/HD2" threads I have found are actually GNU type linux distros... While they're cool, they're still not quite what most of us are looking for.
I'm actually trying to sell my HD2 and weasel out of my 2-year contract so I can go get either the Incredible or the EVO4g.
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Are you kidding me? They've been working their asses off for an android port for the HD2. There's a stickied thread in the rom section. They are still having problems with the linux kernel, so it's gonna be a while until android runs halfway decently, but they're making great progress. These things take time. And the evo is not very similar to the hd2 at all... they only look similar.
If you want android to use full-time, it's best to go with an android phone. They've been working on android ports for the older msm72xx winmo devices (kaiser, tp2, tp, etc.) for years and still don't have a perfect port. Don't expect a fully-functional android port anytime soon... but it will be cool to have my great winmo device with the ability to boot into android when I please.
don't get me wrong this phone is nice, its just a shame its not simple when you want apps. the apps cost a bomb as well. reminds me of my n96.how do you know when there's a firmware update?
Probably discontinued because its crap!
Yes they are working hard on android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
There is a segfault issue going on right now which is slowing things up.
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Probably discontinued because its crap!
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then why you bought it
This phone is great, the only regret is the dying OS. Let's hope they manage to get Android working.