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Rooting Mytouch3g 32b(t-mobile/voda) Without goldcard

Guide To rooting mytouch 3g 32b (Even if you have 1.6 update)
Propz to:Amon_RA, andreev2001, Cyanogen, and any one else sources I used
Ok after Searching the forums and finding all types of ways to root a Mytouch and having some/no luck I decided
to created a thread that goes into complete detail(or try to at least) about each step that is guaranteed to work if done correctly.
READ
This guide does not require a goldcard or adb . I am also not responsible for bricked/broken phones. Now since that's out of the way happy rooting!!
IF your phone is currently running 1.5(cupcake) already then skip to step 3
1.First of all we can't really do anything with 1.6 so we must downgrade to 1.5 by downloading this sappimg.nph and installing it
2.Once downloaded put it on your sdcard and reboot and go into hboot mode (Hold END+VOLUME DOWN). Preform the update
3.Once update is COMPLETLY finished and it asks you to reboot. Do so, then load your phone up fully and download this apk here (flashrecovery.apk) then run it.
Skip these steps and go to step 4 if you know how to install a apk
3a.to install this apk you have to enable the install unkown source in your settings. To do this hit menu >Settings>Applications>Unkown Soruces(check this).
3b. After this go to the market and download a app called "Astro" (the description should mention somthing about file manager) or you could use another apk installer but I prefer this one.
4. After installing the apk run it and click on “backup recovery image” let it do what it does then click on “Flash Cyanogen Recovery 1.4″.
5.Once that is done you want to download the SPL by clicking here, then put it on your sdcard. After that download any ROM(If you dont know what a ROM is search, I cant tell you everything ) of your choice and rename it "update.zip" without quotes then place it in your sdcard
6.Reboot your g1 and hold down the "HOME" key and it should bring up the flash image recovery screen. Choose apply any zip from sd and then choose "update.Engineering-SPL-HBOOT-1.33.2005-signed.zip". It finishes almost immediately with message saying successfully flashed(if it doesn't you prolly ate to much chicken ).
7. Then after it is installed select the restart option and then load into fastboot mode (Hold "BACK" arrow key while its restarting). Once fastboot is loaded the SPL info should say HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP30000). If it does congrats almost there!!!!! If it doesn't, you did somthing wrong and you need to retrace you're steps.
8.Exit fastboot by hitting the "GREEN" button and before the phone boots up hold the "HOME" button and then go to "apply sdcard:update.zip". Let it install and VOL LA you installed your ROM. Preform a reboot and you will now have a rooted phone with a custom ROM

1) thanks for posting, ive tried to follow other instructions over the past few days to no avail
2) any chance of hosting the sappimg.nph file somehwere else? I cant access rapidshare from my phone. I would greatly appreciate it.

OMG SOOO EASY!!!! Mods should sticky this as the new root / rom upload process
I was running android 1.6 on tmobil mytouch 3g with perfected spl 1.33.2006

@ascis sure ill host the files on my website later (im not @ home right now)
@nonmindo thanks and i hope u had a easy time rooting

@ascis sure ill host the files on my website later (im not @ home right now)
@nonmindo thanks and i hope u had a easy time rooting

Thanks for posting - much appreciated. Can I ask what the benefit of changing the SPL is? Is this required?
My concern is regarding warranty - if I flash a new SPL, it is my understanding that I will not be able to flash my current one back, and hence return the phone to stock if the need arises.

ParanoiaPersonified said:
Can I ask what the benefit of changing the SPL is? Is this required?
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Yes, it is required. You cannot root with the MT3G SPL, so you need to change the SPL.
ParanoiaPersonified said:
My concern is regarding warranty - if I flash a new SPL, it is my understanding that I will not be able to flash my current one back, and hence return the phone to stock if the need arises.
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You can flash it back to the original SPL. You would then be unrooted. Look at Amon_RA's original rooting process with Gold Card. At the bottom, he gives directions on how to return your phone to the unrooted state in case you need to do that.

Thanks, I thought with one-click-root, once you'd got the recovery rom flashed, you were done - that you had root and could flash what you liked.
For the record, I'm Voda 32B, but have perfected SPL .0007.
[EDIT] Yes, that thread has a file to return to stock, but only for MT3G, which is why I am hesitant to flash a new SPL to my device.
I've still seen in lots of places mind, that suggest this process works without the flashing of a new SPL. Such as: http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/
[EDIT]

What happened to the ability to format and
and put partitions from the recovery? I just got another Mytouch and rooted it and no ability to put the partions from the recovery mode? I think I had version 1.2 and now I have 1.4

FenderGuy said:
and put partitions from the recovery? I just got another Mytouch and rooted it and no ability to put the partions from the recovery mode? I think I had version 1.2 and now I have 1.4
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You still can, but not with the recovery img ur using wirch is cyanogen 1.4. Just flash amans new recovery img and you will be able to partion

4. After installing the apk run it and click on “backup recovery image” let it do what it does then click on “Flash Cyanogen Recovery 1.4″.
backup failed:I received that could not run command

cparekh said:
Yes, it is required. You cannot root with the MT3G SPL, so you need to change the SPL.
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I have rooted my myTouch3G with the 1-click method (twice actually, needed to take it to the store), and I have the perfected SPL 1.33.2006.
The main issue with this SPL is that it does not allow you to use fastboot. As far as I know, this has nothing to do with root access.

Can confirm that I've performed the OP's procedure but *without* flashing a new SPL, and everything is working fine.
Now running CyanogenMod 4.2.2 w/ CM Recovery 1.4.

Does anyone have the link to the partitions recovery? I tried to put the Hero recovery on and it does not want to come on and I still show the Cyanogenmod v1.4 +jf....someone help
Also in the top it has Andriod system recovery (2)? I did it twice, how do i take one off?

kryptik06 said:
@ascis sure ill host the files on my website later (im not @ home right now)
@nonmindo thanks and i hope u had a easy time rooting
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Any word on rehosting? I know its a pain but my phone is my only internet connection.

acis said:
Any word on rehosting? I know its a pain but my phone is my only internet connection.
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here you go sorry for the wait
http://www.4shared.com/file/145083511/5ffeb21d/SAPPIMG.html

vodafone htc magic 32b gives error to ur method
error "update fail model id incorrect "
i think this sappimg is for the mytouch and not for htc magic vodafone. so it gives this error.
do you have any solutions for this.
thank you

kryptik06 said:
here you go sorry for the wait
http://www.4shared.com/file/145083511/5ffeb21d/SAPPIMG.html
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Flashed last night, worked perfectly. I had no idea it was going to be this much faster. Thankyou.

I am looking for a rom that has a wifi tether app!
yes I am to the step where u download a rom and I am looking for a rom that has WIFI TETHER for my laptop...
much will be appreciated if u can help=D
- THANKS

well i guess right now i just want my phone rooted...
i just want a rooted phone cuz i can download a wifi app i just need a rooted phone....thanks for your post though....much much much much appreciated...nice and simple...other post or vids ive seen go to far in to detail about it and i forget what step im on .lol
-THANKS

a newbie needs your help

Hello guys
i just need your help. i got the DHD for about 4 months now which i like a lot. but i just can't get over all the processes that run on the background. i like the HTC sense and i would like to keep it.
the big BUT kicks in now though. i know nothing of android and all these s-off, radios, roms etc make my head spin in thousands of rpm.
so, please. can someone tell me what exactly is all these?
i know that a rom is a (let's say) different unofficial version of the given android release. and i know (i think i do) thas s-off and s-on is something about a superuser "account" that let's you uninstall all the programs you don't want like facebook, tweet, stock market etc.
and i think that the radio has something to do with the "version" of the wifi/gsm "transreceiver" the phone has (it sounds like a bios thingy to me)
and to conclude the whole post (cause i'm sure it's tiring)...
i want to root my phone. i don't mind the contacts cause i can back them up (i guess) with a program (i don't know what the best one is since HTC sync just keeps some of the phone numbers and not all of them... :S) which i will find in the market.
so, rooting my phone and the superuser thing is what am looking for.
can someone please help me on that? can i root the phone AND keep the version that is already installed? (stock one)
should i do it? how easy is it to brick the phone and render it useless? and what should i do if it's bricked?
or should i just wait for the 2.3 version to surface with a new rooting procedure?
am on 1.72.405.3 version and i saw on the forum that you have to downgrade to a previous one to be able to root.
am sorry for the big newbie post guys but i would really appreciate your help.
thanks a lot
Cheers !!!

Youre right about the Rom and Radio thingy. S-off means that you are rooted and that you can delete system apps, Flash new roms and can use apps that need Root access. There's Another and that's ENG-S off, meaning that you can flash new radio's ( Improve battery life also!)
Contacts: You can Export them to SD (00001.vcf) And then Import them Back later! Personally i have import it to my Gmail account, because i like flashing roms
Downgrading and S-OFF:
Follow this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
ENG S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
I've you have that done i advise you to flash a Up to date Sense rom. They are tweaked and are better then the downgraded sense rom.
A good Sense Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040 Guides and "How to flash" is in the First Post
If you want another Radio you can look at the radio tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295

Thanks for the reply mate. However there is another thing that troubles me.
There is this clockworkmod thingy...
What is that? Do I have to install this so I can just install a Rom or is it for something else like a backup etc?..
Sorry for all those questions...
Cheers !!!
P.S. installed the xda app.. nice one.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

If you have rooted with visionary app an s-off, then just download ROM manager app from market and tap to flash clockworkmod. And yes, you need cwm to be able to backup your ROM and flash a custom one.

i did the root thing, installed visionary, permrooted, checked if the root is ok with root check prog from the market and went to flash the rom that was suggested (only cause i know you guys know FAR more than me so i trust you)
installed the clockworkmod rom manager, tried to install the new rom but i get stuck in the red triangle icon
tried to search for help in the forums but i can't find any regarding this.
i think i'm doing it right but..... oh well
anyways, thanks for the help guys. will try to find a solution but am not that optimistic about it.
Cheers !!!

Hi GeorgeKps
GeorgeKps said:
i did the root thing, installed visionary, permrooted, checked if the root is ok with root check prog from the market and went to flash the rom that was suggested (only cause i know you guys know FAR more than me so i trust you)
installed the clockworkmod rom manager, tried to install the new rom but i get stuck in the red triangle icon
tried to search for help in the forums but i can't find any regarding this.
i think i'm doing it right but..... oh well
anyways, thanks for the help guys. will try to find a solution but am not that optimistic about it.
Cheers !!!
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That Red Triangle is the default recovery, not ClockWorkMod Recovery, so something has not been done right.
Do you have S-OFF? as it is needed to flash clockworkmod.
Take Care
TheQuest

i think i have done it but i can't find a way to check it.
am searching for it. it's probably this thing....
i tried once more, flashing cwm recovery and then flashing the rom and i got stuck on the white htc screen
oh well.... gonna keep trying
Cheers !!!
P.S. Tenterden is awesooooooooooooooome
was there a month ago

checked through the "boot menu" (holding volume - while booting)
it says it's s-off
still, while am trying to flash the rom, the white htc screen comes up and i have to remove the battery to reboot....
am i too lucky that it's not bricked?..... :S
Cheers !!!

Hi GeorgeKps
GeorgeKps said:
checked through the "boot menu" (holding volume - while booting)
it says it's s-off
still, while am trying to flash the rom, the white htc screen comes up and i have to remove the battery to reboot....
am i too lucky that it's not bricked?..... :S
Cheers !!!
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When you installed Rom Manager did you give it root permission, when Superuser asked?
Lets say you would be very unlucky if you were to brick it.
Take Care
TheQuest

the same thing.....
i reinstalled rom manager and it didn't ask for any permissions. there was this option to give the program permissions again. did it, it was getting some like 175 permissions, rebooted when asked but still nothing.
the white screen comes up
if i try to do all the steps again from the begining, do i risk to destroy the phone?....
does anyone know?
thanks for your patience...
Cheers !!!

and another thing.....
IF the update is being done and i am lucky enough, how will i know that it IS being updated?
will it come up with something like the "update" i did when i downgraded the version to gain root access and s-off?
Cheers !!!

Assuming you're rooted with S-off and Eng s-off; how are you trying to flash the rom?

ok, narrowed it down a bit....
a bit of history.. s-off and eng s-off are there. superuser icon is there, clockworkmod is there (didn't ask me for permissions when installed but i did "fix permissions" from inside the program, rebooted after being asked).
checked root success with "root check" from the market, done.
now, i get stuck in the white htc screen when i do "flash clockworkmod recovery" and "install rom from SD card"
but i also get stuck on the white screen when i "reboot into recovery"
does this mean something to you guys?
after i installed clockworkmod do i have to do anything else with the program? (i call them programs cause i don't know the actual terminology).
i read somewhere about a clockworkmod "rom" ....????
is this something i need to do? find a cwm rom to install and recover to that?
(god, why isn't this like windows?....... it's SO difficult)
one more time, i apologize for my ignorance and i really appreciate your time spent helping me...
Cheers !!!

Xtrema said:
Assuming you're rooted with S-off and Eng s-off; how are you trying to flash the rom?
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i'm trying to flash the rom from within the rom manager.
i do the order of "flash cwm recovery" and "install rom from SD card"
is that incorrect?......
Cheers !!!

It isn't the way i do it.
i always boot into recovery and flash roms from recovery. You should see the option there to do it.

By the way, before flashing a rom from recovery, it would be a good idea to do a full wipe using Full Wipe 1.3 first. This is done from recovery also.
drop your new rom zip and the Full Wipe 1.3 into your sd card, open rom manager (make sure it shows clockwork mod installed) then boot into recovery from rom manager. Run full wipe first then install the rom.

i did that also but again, it stays on the white htc screen like when i choose install a rom from SD card...
i even tried "updating" to wipe everything and bring the phone to the previous state (no root, no rom manager" and did the same things one more time.
but...
i guess i'm not "qualified" to do these things....
Cheers !!!

i have the fullwipe1.3.zip in the SD card but i can't boot into recovery to do it. it stays on the white screen of almost death (i have to take it a bit light cause it'll drive me crazy. hahaha)
Cheers !!!

Are you following these instructions?
Flashing your rom
- Tell any people that might call you during the next 10-15 minutes to not worry
- Connect your phone using "Disk drive" to the computer.
- Copy both your full-wipe-1-3.zip and your rom zip file to your SD Card
- Make sure you copied them correctly
- Check again because once you full wipe, you won't have a rom.
- Disconnect your phone from your computer
- Install and open Rom Manager from the market
- Tap on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
- Wait for it to download (yes, you need a wi-fi or data connection)
- After it is done press "Reboot into recovery"
- If you get an icon with a phone and an exclamation mark in a triangle, remove the battery from your phone, reboot and then flash the clockworkmod recovery again
- Once you are in the clockwork mod recovery, you may use the volume keys as directional keys (up and down) and the power button may be used as Enter.
- I recommend you do a nandroid back-up. You must have at least 1 gb of free space.
- Select "Install Zip from sdcard"
- Select "Choose zip from sdcard"
- Select full-wipe-1-3.zip (It's right under those folders)
- Confirm by selecting the Yes option in between those "NO"s
- Wait for it to finish
- DO NOT REBOOT!!! In case you were not aware, you now have no rom installed
- Once again select "Install Zip from sdcard"
- Select "Choose zip from sdcard"
- Select your rom zip file
- Confirm your selection (just like with the wipe)
- Wait for it to finish
- Please reboot from the recovery menu and flash nothing else before you have rebooted
- Pop a champagne bottle, because it's done.
Taken from wid0w's instructions.

yup, done this. but again, when i boot into recovery, the white screen comes up.
i have read that there may be a problem with the rom manager (with some devices) and i may need to "downgrade" the version of it..... could this be the reason?
but i don't know if i can find a previous version
Cheers !!!

[Q] Unroot

Ok, I didn't want to start a thread but I have search for three hours and tried numerous things and i'm confused.
I need an IDIOTS guide to unrooting my phone.
I did a nandriod backup and I have my Standard ROM, I had clockwork but that is gone.
All I want now is the Root gone so I have a standard HTC Wildfire back
I am on Vodafone, UK.
Any help appreciated, i've searched through all the guides downloaded loads of stuff and tried flashing it and it all fails, there seems to be many ways this might work but I can't get passed half of the steps.
If someone could please give me a hand it would be much appreciated.

1.) Create a Gold Card. Follow this guide: http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/.
2.) Download a RUU that fits your demands and make sure it starts with 2.xx from here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz. I recommend you to download this one: http://shipped-roms.com/download.php?category=android&model=Buzz&file=RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2_22_405_1_Radio_13_55_55_24H_3_35_20_10_release_160191_signed.exe because that one is indicated WWE, so it should work world wide.
3.) Install it on your phone using PC. (The file you downloaded should be .exe so you just have to plug your phone to PC in charge only mode and start the .exe you downloaded).
4.) Follow the steps provided by the application.
5.) Wait for it to install. Done.
The file you download must start with 2.xx because that is Froyo (Android 2.2) and that will overwrite your Hboot and remove the root access.
Hit thanks if I helped you.

I think if you do a nand backup before rooting, just restore it with clockworld

smokzye said:
1.) Create a Gold Card. Follow this guide: http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/.
2.) Download a RUU that fits your demands and make sure it starts with 2.xx from here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz. I recommend you to download this one: http://shipped-roms.com/download.php?category=android&model=Buzz&file=RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2_22_405_1_Radio_13_55_55_24H_3_35_20_10_release_160191_signed.exe because that one is indicated WWE, so it should work world wide.
3.) Install it on your phone using PC. (The file you downloaded should be .exe so you just have to plug your phone to PC in charge only mode and start the .exe you downloaded).
4.) Follow the steps provided by the application.
5.) Wait for it to install. Done.
The file you download must start with 2.xx because that is Froyo (Android 2.2) and that will overwrite your Hboot and remove the root access.
Hit thanks if I helped you.
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This should help
I am right now looking at the gold card and I need a spare micro SD? Can this be done on the standard phone SD or does it need to be on the micro SD?
Also if I just found the newer version of android and kept the root and flashed the updated rom onto my phone, i know it would still be rooted but it'd be like a normal phone again.. right?

Pulling my hair out now.
This is so frustrating.
I cant download a .zip to the phone as it aborts and I can't flash the standard RUU because I don't have a gold card thing?
I don't know whether or not its safe to use my phone SD card or do I need a new one?
Surely theres a simple way around this! I.e Download and flashing the standard rom to the phone and it just working? I am on the standard ROM now with root, I am happy to have the root I just want the updated firmware!

What happened to your Clockworkmod Recovery? You might want to get that back, because it is the only way you can then install Zip files. Can you provide more details? Is your Wildfire S-OFF? Are you on Android 2.1?
Refer Part 5 of the 1st post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
The Safe Flash ZIPs of all Froyo RUU's is what you should be looking at. They are the untouched stock Froyo ROM, with only the bootloader and radio removed. But, you'll obviously need Clockworkmod Recovery to run it.

3xeno said:
What happened to your Clockworkmod Recovery? You might want to get that back, because it is the only way you can then install Zip files. Can you provide more details? Is your Wildfire S-OFF? Are you on Android 2.1?
Refer Part 5 of the 1st post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
The Safe Flash ZIPs of all Froyo RUU's is what you should be looking at. They are the untouched stock Froyo ROM, with only the bootloader and radio removed. But, you'll obviously need Clockworkmod Recovery to run it.
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I don't know, how would I find out? I recovered back to december when my phone didn't have clockworkmod. It was just rooted.
So do I need to reflash the clockworkmod onto my phone? Or is there a way of getting it back?
What is S-OFF? (Sorry..) and yeah, I think it's 2.1.
So once I get clockworkmod and run a RUU with a stock rom on it, It will be gone of the clockworkmod rom? And the root? or just the rom?
Thanks!

Interesting how you have root without Clockworkmod. AFAIK, its not possible. Do you see a Superuser Icon on your App Drawer?
If you are still on 2.1, to get back Clockworkmod, you will have to use Unrevoked. Guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Also, if your ultimate goal is removing Clockworkmod and Root and getting official 2.2.1, dont bother with getting Clockworkmod. Just make a Goldcard and flash the RUU then. Yes, flashing an RUU will remove root and Clockworkmod. Also, Goldcards can be any SDCard, including the one included with the phone. But, before using it as a Goldcard, make sure to take a backup because it will have to be formattted.

Tbh, my overall goal was just to get rid of the ROM as it was buggy, and got worse and worse to the extent I couldn't take or watch videos, crashed a lot, etc. etc. Wouldn't download from the market half the time
I'm happy to just leave it rooted, I just want the easiest option to getting the latest update and having the phone "normal" again
I will try what you have said in the first option, if not i'll use my SD card and get cracking

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788776
Can I use that to get unrevoked?
I still have the root, is that clockworkmod? As in, I hold down the volume down key and get the menu, I just don't know what to do with it.. Does that help?

Yes, I would recommend that as well. Simply clockworkmod and root will not affect or detract from the stock experience of your phone at all. Also, it will leave the door open for future modifications and customization, if the need arises.
EDIT: Yes you can use that guide as well. Same thing really. Clockworkmod and Root are two different things. Clockworkmod is a Custom Recovery (When you hold down Vol Down and Power Button, Navigate to RECOVERY using the Volume Key, and Press the Power Button on the RECOVERY word. If Clockworkmod opens, you have it. If it doesn't , and you get an image of an Android with a Red Triangle, you haven't got it).
Root is simply the presence of the Superuser binary, and can be determined by the fact if you have a "Superuser" icon in your main app drawer.

smokzye said:
1.) Create a Gold Card. Follow this guide: http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/.
2.) Download a RUU that fits your demands and make sure it starts with 2.xx from here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz. I recommend you to download this one: http://shipped-roms.com/download.php?category=android&model=Buzz&file=RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2_22_405_1_Radio_13_55_55_24H_3_35_20_10_release_160191_signed.exe because that one is indicated WWE, so it should work world wide.
3.) Install it on your phone using PC. (The file you downloaded should be .exe so you just have to plug your phone to PC in charge only mode and start the .exe you downloaded).
4.) Follow the steps provided by the application.
5.) Wait for it to install. Done.
The file you download must start with 2.xx because that is Froyo (Android 2.2) and that will overwrite your Hboot and remove the root access.
Hit thanks if I helped you.
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Ok I spent the time to go through this properly step by step and search for the stuff that made no sense in making a gold card and finally! I'm done.
Thanks a lot for all your help Just now waiting for it to register that theres an update so I can have the latest android firmware again as i'm still running on what it was on when I bought it haha

Noob Qustions about Rooting

I'm new at this so i got all these noob qustions
First my DHD have built 2.42 with Arabic Regional Support ?
so
Do i need A Gold card ?
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
What the best way to S-Off , Radio S-Off or Eng S-Off ?
When i downgrade will i loss my stock ROM ?
or i'll lose it at S-Off or rooting ?
Can i backup my stock ROM before i start rooting?

Rooting can mean radio off or/and eng off. Refer to desire HD development for rooting. Different build requires different ways to root.
Gold card, you will need one if your downgrading a branded phone. Branded phone includes any network locked phones and also unlocked phones. Even if you buy your phone out right from somewhere, there's still a big chance that it was locked previously. You will know when it says incorrect CID when your downgrade in bootloader.
Either radio or eng off allows you to flash any custom ROM, for beginners its recommended to have radio as its easier, while enthusiast have eng off, but most of the time, both. However to flash a radio, the recommended way is to have both off
The question about backing up your current ROM. After you root, go download a recovery app namely ROM manager which lets you back up your current ROM, meaning you can restore your stock ROM anytime you want. Hope that clears up a bit.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

You only need a goldcard if your dhd is network branded.
If you havent done anything to it yet it will have S-on
All the information you need is in the first post of this thread Link
If you downgrade it you will get a clean stock rom, losing all the data you havent backed up eg contacts, apps, app data. Anything on your sd card will be unaffected and you can use mybackup (30 Day Trial/Full Version/Root Version) to backup you data (but not app data because you dont have root).
Root your phone and use the root version (also free) to restore the backup. It restores with one click but the non-root versions need you to confirm each app installation.

First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?

Hi,
i used TiTanium backup after a temp root and this very good guide in Desire HD dev topic:
[GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Brgs,
Herold

miahegypt said:
First i'd like to thank u for ur reply , its very helpful
So i got this facts now, Correct me if i'm wrong
1- The best is to have both Radio and Eng S-off
2- I only need Gold Card if get incorrect CID
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
4- I can backup my Info Using mybackup
Is this information correct ?
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That is correct. But if you have to choose between eng off or radio off, radio off is a better choice because it's more permanent. You can still remove it whenever you want
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

miahegypt said:
3- Downgrade , S-off and Rooting , wont replace my Stock ROM and i can back it up
Using ROM manager
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i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.

maatsby said:
i think downgrading does replace your stock rom, just with another stock rom. but it'll be like a brand new phone out of the box after you downgrade, everything will be wiped.
i did the downgrade using the link posted above, and i didn't realise it would do that. I thought i could downgrade, root, back up, flash rom, restore. turns out i should've backed up before downgrade.
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after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
miahegypt said:
How do i know if my phone is S-Off or Not ??
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you also asked this, please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193483

becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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miahegypt said:
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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only the rooting part

miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
after you have downgraded, you could always do an OTA update. so essentially its still the stock ROM that your phone came with.
If i did OTA Update after Downgrading , S-Off then Rooting , will i have to do this all over again
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If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
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becoolboy said:
miahegypt said:
If your radio off, no, you don't have to root again. Radio off is one of the most permanent thing you can do to your phone. However you can still radio off anytime you want.
However, if your only eng off, you might have to, depending on what version of bootloader you upgraded to.
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Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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miahegypt said:
becoolboy said:
Seems Like Radio S-off is the best choice , thanks a lot
i'l try to write the steps i got from all of that
i need to be organized so i won't make a deadly mistake and brick my brand new DHD
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Haha yea that might be a smart thing to do. But I don't think it's that easy to brick a phone. You have to either utterly retarded or very unlucky.
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OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?

miahegypt said:
OK now i think i got all the information i need for rooting my phone
I'll Write it Down to make sure that every thing will work ok
1- I'll backup my Contacts , Data , apps and my apps information using mybackup
2- Create A Gold Card using Steps in this link
3- Copy PD98IMG to my newly made goldcard
4- With My DHD plugged into my computer; on the device, i'll go into:
Settings > Applications > Development ; Check on "USB Debugging",
then exit back to the main screen
5- Start to Downgrade my DHD Using instruction in this Guide
6- Root my Device Using this Guide
7- Radio S-off my DHD using this Guide
9- ENG S-off my DHD using this Guide
10- I'll Do OTA Update to update to my latest Stock ROM
11- Use ROM manager to backup my stock ROM
Finally i backed up my data and my stock ROM and i'm ready to flash Custom ROM for my DHD
I hope these steps are right , Can some on confirm it ?
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Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.

becoolboy said:
Comments on your steps.
1. i havent actually personally tried mybackup. but you do realise restoring apps and data from your stock to a custom ROM is different than restoring it onto a stock RUU, simply because custom ROMs might run slightly different. but by all means, try it. i am sure thats not enough to break your phone. you might have to redownload some of the apps tho.
another interesting thing to add is, gmail syncs your contact your email. after a fresh flash, all you have to do is resync. it doesnt give back your msges tho.
3. format your sdcard to fat32. this is important because larger sd cards default format cant be read by bootloader.
6. rooting can be divided into 2 types, eng-off and radio-off. what your doing here is an eng off procedure. skip step 9 all together.
7. make sure you radio off since you will be updating to OTA. some OTA breaks eng off, but radio off would still remain.
10. you might have to eng off (radio off would remain) again if you do an OTA update. i suggest moving step 6 after step 11
keep us posted on your status. good luck.
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thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?

miahegypt said:
thanks a lot for u help
1- that not a big issue for me , i might skip it
3- i got this part it's in making gold card Guide
6- Then this guide Eng S-off the device , did i got that right ?
7- I got this one and i know i'll lose Eng S-off , all i need is to backup my stock ROM , then i might Eng s-off again
10- i don't get this one , can i use Rom manager before rooting ? how can i backup my ROM without rooting ? or do u mean moving step 6 after step 10 not 11 ?
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6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'

becoolboy said:
6. yup, that guide gives you eng off and proceed to step 7 to radio off. skip 9 since its the same as step 6
10. oops, sorry my bad, i meant move it after 10. but it doesnt matter really, since you have radio off (the permanent one), you can even backup stock ROM before you try to eng off. remember, radio off is also one kind of rooting and its 'permanent'
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thanks a lot u have been very helpful
i'v found a much much simpler guide here
it's mostly automated and very organized
what do u think ?

Looks good. But I can't personally vouch for it since i never use his frevo toolkit before. But from what I can guess it's just automated script to run adb commands. So it should be safe. I say go ahead and enjoy rooting and flashing and tweaking and so on.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

Depois de ROOT
Staff follow procedures for downgrade, I performed the root, did s-off, has to generate the GoldCard and applied correctly, now I have 2.2 Froyo routed everything right. Room Manager installed, I tried to install many more roms on the device restarts q always falls on a screen with a red exclamation warning. What remains to be done? What went wrong? I have to update the Froyo 2.2 for Ginger? if so? how? help! Thank you!

Backuping before changing system to 2.3.3

Hi there,
Im new with Wildfire, so I want to change my system to 2.3.3. But before that I would like to make a backup to not loose everything on my phone in the system 2.2.1. Can U please give me a link how can I do that?
Thx.

When your phone is rooted, install clockworkmod recovery. You can there make a nandroid backup of your current ROM (which you can later restore in case something goes wrong).
Apps can be backupped by a program called titanium backup, but again requires root (but works very well!)
Link for s-off and root in case you have not done this yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035

Thx for the link but as I see there All procedures were done under WINDOWS 7, 32-bit. And me I have win 7 64bit, should not be a problem?

No, the procedure remains the same.

I have indeed done everything on windows7 64bit and am succesfully running CM7

Is the wifi working on this 2.3.3?

you are probably talking about installing a custom ROM right? Then if wifi works depends on which custom ROM you are installing, and there is probably a thread about each custom rom in the dev section, so you can check there

Yes but Im a little bit confuse here. U gave me a link and there I read that CM7 is stable. But what should I do before install it?
I know that first I need to back up my phone and my old 2.2.1 android.
Please tell me what should I do first? step by step. I will apreciate so much. And in this CM7 is everything working fine? I mean wifi - blutooth etc?
Thx

The general steps:
S-off or root your phone (most easy is S-off with the alpharevx tool right now, root is easy then)
Flash clockworkmod recovery
Acess clockworkmod recovery by holding volume down when the phone is off and pressing the power button once
Make nandroid backup with clockworkmod recovery
Wipe cache, dalvik cache, reset to factory settings (in clockworkmod recovery)
Put the .zip file for the custom ROM on your sd card (root of the sd card)
Flash the ROM using clockworkmod recovery
Install google apps (market, youtube, ...) the same way you flashed your ROM. You can do this step afterwards though if you like
Reboot into your new ROM
The details should be in the thread I linked to. I did it myself using another thread (something called "after alpharevx...") but I have looked for it and I cannot find it back anymore sorry... But look at the one I linked to above, I'm sure it holds all the info needed
The first time took a few hours for me aswel and some reflashing because i got bootloops (no worries, you can fix that, the phone will not be bricked ! ), but afterwards it's all very easy
And I'm not sure if everything works perfect. There is a common problem with the GPS which can be solved by reflashing the radio. Wifi works, bluetooth I have no idea as I have never used it yet... I read there are problems but I don't know if there are problems in the current stable version... But trust me, the hours you put in it the first time, and the few flaws there still are are totally worth the result I cannot believe I have been on stock ROM more than a year before finally flashing custom ROMs...

So let me show U what my phone shown when I reboot it by using the volume DOWN and the power:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.01.0001
RADIO-3.35.20.10
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So do I need the Revolutionary to S-OFF it? because I dont need to downgrade my version anymore right?

Right. Go to AlphaRev.nl/x/
Download there the tool to making phone s-off and root it after that.
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I want also to know when do I need to format my SD Card to FAT32? I just read somewhere that I need to format it in order to make a nandroid or something like that??
And please tell me also what is the difference between sense ROM and CM7 ?? I want to be sure to do the right thing because I dont want to destroy my treasure xD.
So after S-Offing my phone I need to root it and then format my SD Card?? Please tell me the step I need to do.
Thx.

No one helps?

Just read the guide!! EVERYTHING is stated there. Your SDCard should be FAT32 already before you start it.
To get an idea of CM7, read a review somewhere of the Nexus S, and most importantly ,check the software review of it. That is, in a nutshell, what CM7 is. Also, the official site should tell you a bit about it:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
Sense ROM is what you see at the moment on your Wildfire. All apps, like the camera, dialer, contacts, messages etc. are different in AOSP ROMs like CM7 and Sense ROMs like the stock one.

Dude but I dont need a goldcard but S-OFFing my phone. I have the HBOOT 1.01.0001 already so as I read the goldcard is for the ones who want to downgrade their HBOOT.
So tell me how do I format my sdcard and make a partition for it? I need to format before S-OFFing? So where will be my backup (nandroid?) and where do I put my new and old ROM?
Its quite a little bit confuse for me so can U put me on the right path and help me?

Karthus said:
Dude but I dont need a goldcard but S-OFFing my phone. I have the HBOOT 1.01.0001 already so as I read the goldcard is for the ones who want to downgrade their HBOOT.
So tell me how do I format my sdcard and make a partition for it? I need to format before S-OFFing? So where will be my backup (nandroid?) and where do I put my new and old ROM?
Its quite a little bit confuse for me so can U put me on the right path and help me?
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Just go through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
No, you need not do anything with your SDcard, if getting S-OFF is all you need.
I'll post the outline for you:
- Download Revolutionary
- Run it, it will S-OFF your phone
- After S-OFF'ing it, it will ask you whether you want to install a Custom Recovery. Select YES.
- This will install Clockworkmod 4.0.1.4
That's it. Once Clockworkmod is installed, you can then take a nandroid backup and then flash custom ROMs. You can read this post for all details for taking Nandroid backups and flashing custom stuff:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926457&postcount=4
Hope this clears up your doubts

Ok, but if I need to put my new ROM in order to have CM7 in my phone do I need to format my sdcard before do nandroid?
How about the partition of my sdcard? What can U suggest for me? Thx

No. Not necessary. Flashing a ROM is independent of the contents of the SDCard. You can take a Nandroid also without formatting or doing anything to your SDCard, as long as you have sufficient space. (1 Nandroid backup is ~300-350MB)
SDCard partitioning can be done after you S-OFF and root your phone. Then, install an app called ROM Manager, you will have an option within it to partition your SDCard. But, here, make sure you backup your SDCard before partitioning because partitioning will automatically format it.

Ok is ROM manager is an independent program? where can I get it? from android market? or I will get it automaticly after s-offing my device?

Karthus said:
Ok is ROM manager is an independent program? where can I get it? from android market? or I will get it automaticly after s-offing my device?
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- Yes, it is an independent program.
- No, you will not automatically get it after S-OFF
- Yes, it's available on the market (Both free and premium)
- If you decide to install CM7 ROM after S-OFF and installing a Custom recovery, it includes it by default.
Just to get one thing out of the way - We are referring to create an EXT partition on the SDCard after S-OFF'ing/rooting to enable Apps2SD. Not a FAT32 or any other partition.