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Well... since my favorite cell provider (T-Mobile) will be bought out by AT&T (junk), I will be switching to Sprint in July. I will be getting the HTC EVO 4G 3D.
Anyone else making the switch?
marcos.lennis said:
Well... since my favorite cell provider (T-Mobile) will be bought out by AT&T (junk), I will be switching to Sprint in July. I will be getting the HTC EVO 4G 3D.
Anyone else making the switch?
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ATT did not buy T-Mobile. They have agreed to buy them, the DOJ and the FCC still have to approve the transaction. Which will be atleast a year down the road. But hey i guess if you're going to jump on the Sprint band wagon you might as well want to make the most of it.
By the way good luck talking to their CS reps. They know as much English as my 16mth old daughter.
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I will.
I just came from Sprint about 2 months ago. I left because data here had become so slow, i am talking 47 kbps slow. But they are flipping the switch all over Wisconsin on 4G, and I miss my EvO 4G so much, I have to go back (and get the EvO 3D).
Day its released, day I have a mt4g for sale..
Sprint reps are ok. Don't know why everyone has a issue...
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Sprint? Sprint is not a GSM provider. Many (if not most) people use T-Mobile and AT&T specifically because these are GSM providers. If T-Mobile gets acquired, AT&T will remain the only option.
I can't imagine someone knowingly switching from GSM to CDMA.
personally just left sprint. always had dropped calls, bad signal, and in order for them to fix my phone i would be charged an extra 10 a month for data that i was already paying for. if anything do the jump to verizon, only one worth going to.
I live in Miami so any cell pgone provider would be ok. They all have good service here.
I used to have AT&T a few years back and also verizon. AT&T ripped me off with charges. Verizon was great but a bit pricey. I have not been in Sprint yet tho. My brother is with them and he is very happy.
Lets see what happens in July and I decide to switch.
The EVO 3D looks really nice amd the specs are awesome. I am already missing my MT4G. The best phone I've had so far.
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Sprint? Sprint is not a GSM provider. Many (if not most) people use T-Mobile and AT&T specifically because these are GSM providers. If T-Mobile gets acquired, AT&T will remain the only option.
I can't imagine someone knowingly switching from GSM to CDMA.
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I couldn't have said it better my friend.
I would switch from Tmobiles GSM to Verizons CDMA if they werent so expensive. They have WAY better coverage in my area. They also seem to have better coverage in the more "boonies" type areas near here.
Most people couldn't give a damn about GSM or CDMA. Hell, you try to explain to them why they can't use a CDMA phone on a GSM network and they look at you like you have two heads. That being said, there's no way in hell I'll allow myself to use AT&T after the bull**** I just went through as an employee and a customer. Verizon is out because of the changes they just implemented re: warranty swaps. For those who haven't heard, if you have a warranty issue with your phone, Verizon plans to charge you $150 to replace it, if you have the slightest of cosmetic blemishes on your device. Volume buttons down work but you have a worn spot on your battery cover from the phone being in your pocket? $150. Screw that.
So yes, Sprint's data is slower, but in my area T-Mobile has a ton of dropped calls, bad call quality, and when I go into a large building (My office, a target, Costco, etc) I get no signal whatsoever. I'm going to try to hold off for the decision on the merger, but I might jump ship when the EVO 3D comes out.
Edit: Also, $50 for unlimited data, text, any cell call, and 500 minutes is a LOT better than the $70 I'm paying for 1000 minutes on the EM+ plan. Not complaining about T-Mo's pricing, just saying it's an option.
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Sprint? Sprint is not a GSM provider. Many (if not most) people use T-Mobile and AT&T specifically because these are GSM providers. If T-Mobile gets acquired, AT&T will remain the only option.
I can't imagine someone knowingly switching from GSM to CDMA.
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I would do it.
If my options are Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint...Sprint it is. CDMA or not, unlimited data plans should be unlimited. AT&T already has tiers, and Verizon is expected to adopt a similar system this summer. Would be nice if we t-mobile customers were grandfathered in, but doubt that will happen under AT&T. Will have to wait and see.
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I am well aware of the differences beween GSM and CDMA. I know how the work and specs of it. But since I am not planning to move from the US, not I travel outside of it, it doesnt matter.
Right now, AT&T has the most expensive plans and they have a cap on data.
Sprint is the only one with a better pricing and unlimited cell and data coverage ( though I know is a little slower than Verizon's).
I recently read an article stating that tmobile and sprint offer faster 3g for smarphones vs dumbphone data, so it seems like sprint and tmobile may be priortizing there customer needs.. plus I heard a rumor that google may purchase sprint someday.. how awesome would that be.. I like gsm cause its world wide but so is wifi and my phone has that so nbd.. unlimited and still cheaper then the comp. If I'm browsing on my phone ill be using wifi anyhow.. as far as 4g goes pretty sure sprint is switching to lte soon and a law just passed forcing verizon and att to allow lte data roaming to smaller competitors.
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As far as traveling with GSM phones no big deal I buy a cheap phone that make sure works there and buy their sim card and good to go and for curtsey I leave the phone to some of the relatives lol.
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I don't understand why people don't realize that nothing has happened yet and probably won't still for some time, there's no urgency to switch. I want to wait and try to get a rockin' phone in a little while when the buyout gets closer to reality. I spoke with a T-Mobile representative about it the other day and he said that most likely T-Mobile would still go by the T-Mobile name but would operate under AT&T. The only real thing that would happen is we would switch to AT&T frequencies cause they'd buy all our towers. Seems like it could only lead to better coverage, don't you think? Sprint seems too hit-or-miss for me anyway...
AT&T can't ruin T-Mobile overnight
From what I've read AT&T won't be able to repurpose any of T-Mobile's existing network for at least two years after the sale is finalized. They have also committed to honoring the contracts of existing T-Mobile customers. If the sale goes through, it should have no meaningful on your service at least through the length of any contract with T-Mo. I'm on prepaid, though, so who knows what will happen to my service.
Also, please wait and upgrade to the HTC Sensation before you brashly decide to cancel your contract and switch carriers so that I can buy it from one of you (preferably for pennies on the dollar, buyers market).
The merger wont happen rightaway its gonna be at least 2-3 yrs before we see changes,whats so hard to understand that either way is a win win for us Tmo customers,if the merger passes we have access to all at&t cell towers & if it dnt pass we still gonna have access to all those at&t cell towers... We will get grandfathered in cause they not gonna cut the customers short & if that dnt happened we still good at&t will change their plans & pricing,with all these new customers goin in to at&t,they not gonna stay ****ty forever... Im sure as hell not goin to slow ass verizon nor sprint...
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The merger wont happen rightaway its gonna be at least 2-3 yrs before we see changes,whats so hard to understand that either way is a win win for us Tmo customers,if the merger passes we have access to all at&t cell towers & if it dnt pass we still gonna have access to all those at&t cell towers... We will get grandfathered in cause they not gonna cut the customers short & if that dnt happened we still good at&t will change their plans & pricing,with all these new customers goin in to at&t,they not gonna stay ****ty forever... Im sure as hell not goin to slow ass verizon nor sprint...
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Yeah except our phones aren't compatible with AT&T 3g. We can already use their edge towers.
I personally believe you guys are jumping the gun. The deal hasn't gone through yet...hope it doesn't though.
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My dad just kicked my at&t dell streaks azz in the dirt here in Atlanta with his new Thunderbolt! I mean he had download and upload speeds higher than home internet. Got me kind of pissed so I was wondering if I should switch?
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Depends can you still get unlimited with att. If not then you should switch to Verizon cause at the moment its unlimited at 30 bucks.
Yes I have an Unlimited grandfathered plan with AT&T. I also have heard that AT&T network is going to be the best in the long run.
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Yes I have an Unlimited grandfathered plan with AT&T. I also have heard that AT&T network is going to be the best in the long run.
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"Best" is very subjective. A lot depends on where you live, work, and spend most of your time and who has better coverage in those areas. For me, the customer service is just as important and on that side, VZW gets the nod above AT&T any day from me.
Verizions LTE is really good supposedly, I only have an Inc2 so I sadly won't know the actual specs
If (as it seems) you live in a Verizon 4G area, I'd say another factor to look at is when at&t plans to put 4G where you are. If it's going to be a year or more, you could switch to verizon for a while, then switch back to at&t later if you think their network is faster/better for you. Maybe you'll find you like Verizon better in the mean time, maybe not.
Extremely great points ... I think I am going to chill atm but I hope AT&T gets LTE soon ... Even if they do get it soon Ill have to upgrade my phone and Im not really interested in doing that atm.
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I'm in the same boat as you. It's absolutely driving me up the wall. I could care less about voice. I use a ton, A TON, of data. I don't have a home computer and, obviously, home Internet connection. My mobile is IT. The chance to put on a pair of big boy pants, right now, and play with unlimited LTE on a Charge is incredibly tempting.
The problems I see, if I leave the unlimited data on AT&T? I'll never go back since they have the ridiculous data caps. And when the T-Mobile merger happens, and yes, it will, there is simply too much money at stake for it to fail. No more unlimited data for T-Mobile. At that point I've effectively ruled out GSM. No more phone hopping and swapping unless Verizon enables LTE SIM swapping.
Who the heck knows when the AT&T LTE network is going to launch? They have problems running a 3G network. But say it's this fall? The merger will go through, T-Mobile will be eaten, and almost instantly AT&T will have as super big boy LTE network? At that point I'll be, pardon the phrase, sh___ing my pants since I didn't wait.
I'll concede I have have a couple hypotheticals in here but I'm open to any advice from my fellow members. Thoughts? Advice? Spare Change?
There is a link on xda somewhere that had att's migration to lte for the end of this year. only had about a half dozen listed, and I think three were in texas. Even when it does gets turned on, there's nothing to say they want cap transmission speeds like they do now. If you don't have the Iphone, your not on their preferred list. I agree that you could probably switch and come back when they upgrade, but there goes an umlimited plan you will not get back. If you are on the unlimited plan, they may still throttle after you pass the 2 gig mark. They are so greedy, it will stink for the consumer if the get t-mobile.
at&t LTE will be a looooong time coming, last i heard they are expecting it in 2013.
if you can wait that long....nevermind...move to VzW
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at&t LTE will be a looooong time coming, last i heard they are expecting it in 2013.
if you can wait that long....nevermind...move to VzW
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Any hard links to that date? I go back an forth by the day. Part of me wants to grab a Charge and play. Part of me screams to stop and wait.
Wait for AT&T...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/08/nearly-half-a-million-contract-customers-left-t-mobile-in-q1-201/
Will YOU be leaving?
If the merger goes through, then yes. I have been a tmobile customer for 7 years. I have been satisfied with the hardware, the accounts, and even the customer support. Especially the customer support.
AT&T want a stellar company before the SBC buyout, but it became terrible after. I expect the same thing if Tmobile is consumed.
I do not look forward to finding a new carrier.
I don't think I'll leave TMO unless AT&T acquires it and doesn't let me keep my current plan and pricing. I travel accross USA and do not have a voice coverage problem with Tmobile. Its excellent with few to none dropped calls. But the data sucks, my phone switches to edge 80% of the time as compared to my co workers AT&T and Sprint.
Not to mention I pay less than $160 for 2 lines with unlimited everything.... The next cheapest is sprint @ $210
If the buyout goes through, absolutely leaving. I will never be an AT&T customer again, even if it means taking my Vibrant over to Simple Mobile.
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I'll be leaving as well. As far as when, that depends on when the merger goes through and who gets the SGSII. One things for sure, I'll NEVER use AT&T again.
I agree with most the other comments....... I pay 152 per month for 2 lines unlimited everything......... and I use it............ When and IF ATT does get T-mobile. . . then I will have to find a new carrier, I really like TMO but tempus fugit......
As far as the customer loss I do not see that as a real big issue, if I remember correctly, the average for all the major carriers is between 6-8 million per carrier per year or as it is called in the industry the "churn"
I agree with KWKSLVR it is about who gets the S2
It depends on my dad....he pays me and my sister's phone bill cuz we're in college...no matter if we stay or go...i still gotta unlock my Vibrant for another carrier
If the plans stay the same then ill stay plus some might have better coverage
in areas they never did
T-Mobile coverage is terrible Verizon has the iphon now and at&t had some good Android phones.
I'll be leaving.
Also, t-mobile hasn't cared about building out their data network for a long time. Data id more important than voice to me. I use 50 voice minutes a month but 2gb data. I don't mind paying more for a better network...
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any other provider sounds better then att. i would gladly switch to boost with an unlocked android. or even metropcs has got a few good androids to date. att is making a losing bet unless they all of a sudden change their pricing plans.
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T-Mobile coverage is terrible Verizon has the iphon now and at&t had some good Android phones.
I'll be leaving.
Also, t-mobile hasn't cared about building out their data network for a long time. Data id more important than voice to me. I use 50 voice minutes a month but 2gb data. I don't mind paying more for a better network...
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If you knew T-Mobile coverage was bad in your area perhaps you should have started out with a different carrier in the first place. Here in Dallas I get 3G or H almost everywhere.
Add me to the list of people who will leave T-Mobile the day AT&T goes through. Keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen.
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If you knew T-Mobile coverage was bad in your area perhaps you should have started out with a different carrier in the first place. Here in Dallas I get 3G or H almost everywhere.
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Hi idiot.
I did. No one else had coverage but t-mobile thanks to voice roaming, but at&t put a New 3g tower up so now they have everything. I went from at&t to sprint before t-mobile.
Thanks for using that pea sized brain of yours, though.
At&t... Building out their network.
T-mobile... Dead end.
And traveling with a t-mobile phone is a lesson in frustration compared to at&t other Verizon.
I'm with them cause I live in a rural area and had no choice then.
NOW I do... So ill be leaving.
Don't care where you live and how your signal is, tbh. even at the hspa+ market down the interstate your phone can go from full 3g to edge at any random time.
T-mobile are not defendable, so stop ****ing trying Even with good phones and low prices people are leaving, and for a reason. They aren't spending more just cause they can... There are sizeable cities here that can't get more than 3 bars gprs from t-mobile here, but the other three carriers have full 3g
Thank you.
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I've been a T-Mobile customer for almost 5 years. Up until I transferred to the college in this town now, my 3G data service has been great. Im actually so unhappy w/ T-Mobile..Right now i live in Huntsville,TX where I goto college at and T-Mobile is beyond garbage here. Personally, If I'm going to pay the same amount of money as someone who has 3G/4G coverage, i have to have to have the same equal coverage. I'm back and fourth on GPRS and Edge here missing important calls like clockwork. I can get a similar plan with AT&T for the same amount with 4G service here in this town. (Trust me i work for Radioshack and I know all about both companies plans and prices as well as restrictions) When the Samsung Galaxy S2 comes out this summer for AT&T, I'm leaving T-Mobile to give AT&T my money instead. I'm not handing over my whole pay check for a Verizon phone LOL and I'm not going to Sprint with their 3G coverage map looking like a pepperoni pizza LOL
For the most part, T-Mobile has been beyond great as far as customer serviceand pricing, its just that voice and 3G data coverage is, always, and forever will be their weakness and that doesn't work for me.
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Sprint has proven once again that their Network vision upgrade needs to have happened yesterday. These results show not only that sprint's network is struggling in some areas but MOST areas.
They only managed a 480kbps average EV-DO (3G) speed, the slowest speed tested. Their 4g and 3g networks were also some of the least reliable networks tested.
Get the picture Sprint. We need a real 4g network on a real spectrum. A 2500mhz Wimax network spottily thrown together isn't going to cut it, neither is 10 year old backhaul. It's make or break time Sprint.
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And I don't.
Should have come to Baton Rouge. They would have scored 0.05 megabit on the speedtest all day long!
The old adage holds true, you get what you pay for..
Well, first I'd like to mention these stats offer no souce or details on how/where and how many times these figures were tested, which I usually like to see (I'm the skeptical type)
That being said, I agree. I'm lucky to be in Chicago, pretty decent 4g and 3g coverage, but 3g's been slowing down more and more and it shows in many places. They need to pick it up on 3g (their main network). No reason for a tower to only offer 1.2 (1 T1 line minus 300kbps for sprint control) even at 4am on a Tuesday in the suburbs, when Verizons almost always 2mpbs or more with full bars on 3g (and has been for years), same network technology. Its data speeds on 3g I've never been quite happy with.
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makes me miss verizon =[
Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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makes me miss verizon =[
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I know someone who says they can see their data speeds die on Verizon with evry new phone launch. Especially the 4g signal.
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Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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+1 Hopefully they won't go the route of everyone else. If they did I'm going back to a dumb phone because unlimited data is the main reason I have a smartphone.
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Only problem with this is I don't believe the i9000 or gsII (or any world phone) works on tmo 3g aws bands. Only att plus they'll be att soon...
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
Spring is the new tmobile
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
In the end Sprint will show us that sticking with them meant nothing. As soon as Verizon gets their tiered data underway. Sprint will go that route too, and give us just a little more than ATT and Verizon. They know we will have nowhere else to go! I just wish I had ditched sprint in February when I started too. Verizon 4G is in my area and i'm stuck with slow speeds.
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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The test was done by PCMag (http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011)
That being said, my work is a VZW Deadzone, where-as I get at least some Spring signal. I average 9mb/1.5mb down/up on 4G in and around my neighborhood and if my 3G signal can be slower than what is on the chart, its still far faster than anything I need to do daily. If I need more, I'll go 4G/Wifi and be done with it. I abuse the hell outta my unlimited, averaging upwards of 6GB a month data on my phone alone (the wifey also has a Epic on the plan) and I've now thrown a GTab 10.1 into the mix and tether of the phone.
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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Undoubtedly there is a correlation between the all-you-can-eat data and the slow speeds - ie burden on the network.
hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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Havent heard of anything for tmobile, just sprint/bell and possibly att lte sgs2.
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hey all, i was wondering if anyone had any information on the SGSII potentially coming to T-Mobile in the US. I read online that we might not get an actual SGSII and the we might get the Hercules and i've also heard that the Hercules will be the T-Mo version of the SGSII. I really would love to get one so i'm just hoping that they come stateside.
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The Hercules is a variant of the U.S. market Infuse with a dual-core TI SoC. What other features it has haven't been confirmed. It's due out in September. T-Mobile won't be getting a version of the SGS2.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/17/exclusive-samsung-hercules-t-mobile-dual-core-infuse-4g/
would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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would it be possible to buy an I9100 and unlock it and use it on tmobile
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You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.
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You'd only get EDGE data speeds. Your only hope for a version that works on T-Mobile's bands is if Wind Canada gets one. But the Canadian's on the forum have said it's a Bell Canada exclusive so it's a long shot.
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Just got SGS2, it is connected to t-mobile usa, and it does only get EDGE speeds, and no HSPA+.
I can still keep it for trying out stuff for a bit, and would install any custom mods to try. If won't work, I may want to return it.
Is Wind Canada the only one with HSPA+ which is an option here?
There is no way to add only that support on top of a stock android?
The other feature that's needed to make it an excellent offering it T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling.
Any suggestions?
Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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Ok, got an att sim and hspa+ works getting 6mbit downloads wih sgs2 now. Will only have that sim for test for three days. Though att is definitly costlier than tmobile for data and phone plans and they charge for overage rather than throttle.
Still my preference would be to hspa+ on tmobile, get tmobile wifi calling to work etc.
Also noted that tmobile wifi calling wont show as an app that backup software can see.
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I don't see AT&T being quite more expensive unless you really need the unlimited minutes. Otherwise you could get the medianet plan since the S2 isn't detected as a smartphone, which will solve your data problem for overages.
On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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On tmobile i pay $25 for 'unlimited' data which means after 5gb it is throttled. I am on a no contract plan. Price for contract plan is $30 for the same data plan.
If i dont pay for overage its great. Yet them not recognizing it as smartphone may not hold for too long, as us flavors of s2 are being prepared.
While it does last that they dont recognise it as a smartphone, are you also on smallest data plan and pay the minimum?
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There is an unlimited non smartphone data plan in att for just $15 and many of us are on that plan.
We do get hspa+ speeds on this plan. Pretty good deal compared to tmobile.
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I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.
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I just bought an unlocked SGSII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176292 from Newegg on "sale." It states that it has UMTS 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz.
I thought T-mobile used 900 and 2100. Can anyone explain why it doesn't work with T-mobile?
Thanks.
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T-mobile uses 1700 and 2100, not 900 and 2100.
That would explain it.
Rrr, guess i missed the same point about tmobile's bands. There was a list of the 4 freauencies and no distinction of which one is for voice, data etc.
So running a speed test using AnTuTu benchmark clearly shows sgsii is a great pick performance wise as it is dominating the charts. Though that app lack a distinction for original cpu speeds. I may overclock it if i get time as its a fun game, thouhgh not right now.
Data plan wise, on att usa, you are on $15 for non smartphone. The its ar their mercy, and they could identify sgsii as smartphone anytime in which case we'd loose that excellent option, right?
Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
Phone plan wise att family starts at $69 for 700 min for two lines, and they also got 550 min unadvertized for $10 less. This is still $10 above t mobile base for family at $49, yet no big deal if att data is cheaper at $15 with the mentioned 'non smartphone' option.
With att data on hspa+, you vuys easily use the mobile access point without limitations? Have anyone tried vpning and working on that, remote desktop to work machine for a significant time, full working day, etc?
With my att test sim, hspa+ downloads are fine, anywhere from 1.5 to 6 mbits, uploads sometimes were slow around 300
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... uploads were around 300 kbit.
Will test it some more today and tomorrow from more locations in the area.
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Now got my previous smartphone, mytouch 4g with tmobile on a family plan. And that one would likely not fit on att hspa+ eigher. I can validate it later with my test card from att.
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To save you and everyone else the trouble, as of now:
- There is no AT&T phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network
- There is no T-Mobile phone that supports HSPA+ on AT&T's network
- There is no unbranded phone that supports HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T, you have to pick one or the other. The SGS2 does not support, and most likely will never support, T-Mobile's funky AWS bands.
The Hercules is rumored to have AT&T's bands. So was the G2X and it didn't.
Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
Have talked to AT&T support, and they confirmed that data plans for non smartphones begin at $10. *And that sgsii does not show as anything in their systems now neither a smartphone nor a non-smartphone. *And that it is correct that they can't guarantee anything about not identifying it as a smartphone in future.
So the best chance of the $15 data for non smartphones to last is if we get lucky enough that when they do launch the us AT&T version of sgsii, then the international one will be left out.
I am not exactly clear why the $15 non smartphone plan is needed over the $10 one. *Though, cant test too much with my AT&T temp sim, as they didn't want to change the plan the store gave me due to being on a trial period.
Still got today to try att sim out and can return with no fees, so will call or step by the store and check if that would be possible. *One challenge is that they already saw the phone and got excited, and listed it as a smartphone plan. * ..., we'll see how it goes...
Then I am also reading that AT&T talks about a dual LTE/HSPA+ support, yet that lte may take time to be battery friendly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162330&page=2). *
So possibly waiting for LTE to mature is not practical, in which case maybe no point in waiting for AT&T us version of sgsii which may only add LTE.
Coming from tmobile hspa+ usage since nov 2010, now when testing AT&T, it is more influenced from during the day traffic and speeds are slower vs faster speeds at less conventional hours. *Also seeing some sporadic speed tests issues coming from another device using the wifi hotspot - usually the upload, sometimes download too is near zero speed. *While most speed tests are decent. *Then have not seen any of that on tmobile.
One issue making me consider moving to AT&T is that tmobiles speeds in my new place are very bad for hspa+ if it at all it gets an*hspa signal. *Used to never need wifi and get consistent 4-6 mbits downloads ..., now getting even 1 from tmobile is a challenge.
Then, would like fast Internet when traveling overseas. *And tmobiles phone worked well last time with fast speeds. * Then I have seen some mentioning that tmobiles bands could be better for world traveling than AT&T, is that so?
(For instance*http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=4d1bbd0f46632e8d&hl=en has:
I can only say I use T-Mobile version and it IS working. I don't have AT&T one, can say nothing about it. Reason I have in mind while selecting model - in the most of the world T-Mobile version will have better coverage.
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arntgur said:
Thanks, that clarifies.
To maintain at least HSPA+ speeds, I can either Of two options:
- keep sgsii, move to AT&T, find how to migrate another existing smartphone since my tough 4g won't work with AT&T's data. *Maybe sell it and get another AT&T phone.
- return sgsii and stay on tmobile.
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- The $10 plan requires an unlimited messaging plan. The $15 plan is a stand-alone.
- The carrier versions of the SGS2 will have different model numbers and a different series of IMEI codes so I doubt that would effect the international SGS2 in AT&T's database.
- Our SGS2 won't support LTE. But it's going to take AT&T at least a year and a half to get any meaningful LTE penetration.
- I came from T-Mobile. AT&T's HSPA+ clocks a lot slower than T-Mobile's and isn't as widely available. For some reason though, things like video buffer less for me even though the speeds clock slower.
- AT&T is far better for international travel. They have roaming data plans you can pre-purchase that are less than 1/4 of what T-Mobile charges. Also, because the SGS2 is unlocked, you can pick up a SIM locally if you want to.
I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...
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I'm surprised T-Mo isn't getting the GSII, they're usually good with Android.Well, this sucks...
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No offense, but they're also the smallest carrier and are in the process of going away. I'm guessing they're getting an Infuse variant instead because Samsung's got the production capacity and probably cut them a deal.