Arc v Optimus 2x
Interesting watch, have no idea what the guys saying, but the Arc kicks butt on video playback... which suprised me, Arc also wins on music play back too i feel
can anyone translate roughly what this guy is saying?
youtube.com/watch?v=U2ai0SMtkg0&feature=related
StickyGeko said:
Arc v Optimus 2x
Interesting watch, have no idea what the guys saying, but the Arc kicks butt on video playback... which suprised me
youtube.com/watch?v=U2ai0SMtkg0&feature=related
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Optimus 2X acts as if it was playing it in software mode where Arc was clearly using hardware acceleration.
It's interesting considering that Optimus 2X was using inbuilt video player which has all needed hardware 'connections' and it can even display 1080p so could it be that that FF movie was using higher profile than LG can handle?
As I understood from reviews:
Optimus 2x is better in:
-Rooted
-Custom roms quality like Modaco
-Speed thanks to dual core
Se Arc is better in:
-Design
-Sound is louder
-Camera
-Screen is better under sunlight
-Resale a year later because SE has a better reputation than LG
Just watched a video of the optimus 2x 1080p video recording. First impressions: not impressed at all considering its 1080p.
Anyways, id take the Arc hands down.
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Just sold my 2x in favour of the arc. Only issue is the cheap plastics SE use. 2x has small screen for the size of phone but lovely build and materials.
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what made u change from the 2x to arc???
trickyhenry said:
Just sold my 2x in favour of the arc. Only issue is the cheap plastics SE use. 2x has small screen for the size of phone but lovely build and materials.
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while you may think it's cheap, it's not... it's high quality plastic to reduce costs
MJ_QaT said:
while you may think it's cheap, it's not... it's high quality plastic to reduce costs
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+1.. plastic.. but good quality... makes the phone more durable.
What made me buy SE phones for years was the high quality materials used, even if plastic and rubber, I have only good memories of K800,C905,Aino...
The N1 is from same grade of materials.
The Arc remembers me of the sony A805 walkman I had...same high class plastic and design!
Optimus 2x back is ugly and the fake aluminium strip paint will tear off in a while or get lot of scratches
I believe the Optimus is not running Android 2.3 yet??? so cannot use the Dual core fully but when Android update it will to optimized so will run faster!! But with no led notification light, the arc is for me, even if it is in a STUPID place on the side & not on the front.
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the arc is for me, even if it is in a STUPID place on the side & not on the front.
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is that a notification light? i thought was just the charging light indicator.... i havent yet got the arc btw
Another thing that the Arc has more than 2X is the hardware buttons that can be used to wake the phone instead of using the power button, just like the Tb wake feature on N1
I wonder if you can use buttons lights for miss call alerts too
arc v optimus 2x v incredible s
my 1 reservation about the arc is the browser, it isnt smooth, see the vid below, when i tried it in the three store it was the same, can this be fixed? whats causing it? wish it was smooth, how do you guys find the browser
youtube.com/watch?v=7aN6O4rvQ44
StickyGeko said:
is that a notification light? i thought was just the charging light indicator.... i havent yet got the arc btw
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Apparently! yes the charger LED light is also a LED notification light.
Surethom said:
Apparently! yes the charger LED light is also a LED notification light.
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yay lol, i aint really allow my phone on at work, but its usually within sight (next to my tower) and having a notification light is a saviour, only check the phone when i see it blinking, was afraid the arc wouldnt have this
can any1 with an arc confirm that the led above the charge port is infact a notication light too?
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my 1 reservation about the arc is the browser, it isnt smooth, see the vid below, when i tried it in the three store it was the same, can this be fixed? whats causing it? wish it was smooth, how do you guys find the browser
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You have tons of free internet browser and better than stock one in the Android market
for example: opera and skyfire both support flash, but Opera supports file uploads and ftp connections
I've used the stock browser for a few days and it was fine.. no problems at all.. that said - I've gone back to Dolphin HD which I used on X10.. just love their UI.
I think the only real advantage of the Optimus 2x today over the Arc is that it's already rooted and that lot of brave devs are beginnign to work on it.
For the Arc it ''should'' be rooted when mr SE decide to do it, it can be tomorrow morning as it can be in June, dunno if lot of devs will be interested since the X10 gave them a bad experience
Gotta be honest.. This phone is so good I can't see me wanting to root it!
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hello all i have xperia x1 and i love it sooooo much
i had k800 and thats why i loved SE and dont want to change it but in x1 the camera is very bad and no sensor , multi ......
now i want to know which one i will buy
iphone 3gs or iphone 4g (when released on june or july) or xperia 10
which one and why
wait for iPhone 5G or Xperia X20.
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wait for iPhone 5G or Xperia X20.
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Yeah wait another 10 years for the X20.
No, as you are used to using complicated phones (X1), i would go for the X10 as it is simpler but the iphone is too simple and you may miss all the little features you get with the X1.
To be honest when i played with the iPhone i found it really dull and if camera is what your after the iPhone is definately not for you as it's only 3MP and only just got a flash and video recording capabilities.
I'm currently running the Xperia X10 and I goto say i'm really enjoying at and all it's features. The camera is pretty awesome and has several neat little feature (like the image stabalizer and the face detection / auto tagging) and the quality is good as well :-
Click here for some sample pics
The internet as you would expect for a droid phone is smooth as is the general running of the phone. The iPhone can't run flash so that could hinder your net experience but that just depends on your browsing. The Xperia X10i isn't perfect though depending on your usage and who you ask the battery can leave a little to be desired but with a little bit of tweaking and hopefully some help from SE in the future that shouldn't pose to much of a problem.
Ideally I'd say go for the Xperia because you said you love your current Xperia and you love Sony Ericsson so it seems a logical choice.
Anything else you want to know about the Xperia X10i just ask and i'll try answer it the best i can
Hope this helps
I have had and Iphone and switched to Android... go Android.. you can do way more with Android.. Iphone is just a fad..
get the x10i. is like a hot chick you'll want to pick it up. escpecially the white one.
Or wait for Galaxy S if you don't mind the missing flash led which is useless anyway it seems.
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Or wait for Galaxy S if you don't mind the missing flash led which is useless anyway it seems.
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The LED is quite useful when you can customize it with Blink @ Market.
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The LED is quite useful when you can customize it with Blink @ Market.
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You mean it really makes a difference in pictures?
I saw on Esato forum two images where the led was useless at 1m
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You mean it really makes a difference in pictures?
I saw on Esato forum two images where the led was useless at 1m
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What? No, the notification LED. :O
Google provide a compare page where we can compare any android device with the brand new nexus s
what i found out is that our precious X10 can do up to 10 hours of talk time while the brand new Nexus S can only sustain 6 hrs.!!
Also, there is no major change in hardware.
here's the link:
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=nexus-one&phone=sony-ericsson-xperia-x10
To me, the Nexus S's specification is very mediocre. I would love to rub it in MR's review of the Anzu in the face that even the Nexus S does not require something they are so trying to persuade us with. It's a great piece of hardware though don't get me wrong as I am not bashing on SS, and it just tells us straight forward that this is all that is needed to run 2.3. Unlike someone who bashed on Anzu that it doesn't have Ooh's and Ah's. Well what Ooh's and Ah's does the S has over Anzu or even the X10? may be just NFC and screen(for X10). What does Anzu have over the S? Welp we're about to find out
Yeah, didn't MR say the NS was super advanced? Dual core? These were their reasons for saying the ANZU was doomed?
I'd love to see those asshats eat their words!
Come on unknown13x, what surprises does ANZU have for us?
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what i found out is that our precious X10 can do up to 10 hours of talk time while the brand new Nexus S can only sustain 6 hrs.!!
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Ahem... ah - when was the last time anyone got 450hrs of standby on their x10... the 10hrs talk time is bull$hit, and I think we all know that...
Sometimes I half lucky to get 10hrs standby...
So maybe the Nexus S just has an accurate talk time as opposed to a highly inflated one...
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Yeah, didn't MR say the NS was super advanced? Dual core? These were their reasons for saying the ANZU was doomed?
I'd love to see those asshats eat their words!
Come on unknown13x, what surprises does ANZU have for us?
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keyword "BRAVIA"
Specs aren't everything, fellas. Many other Android handsets trump the Xperia X10 and don't have the same inflated numbers.
The Nexus S is inherently going to be better just for the support alone.
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keyword "BRAVIA"
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Is it display tech related or resolution related?
bongd said:
Specs aren't everything, fellas. Many other Android handsets trump the Xperia X10 and don't have the same inflated numbers.
The Nexus S is inherently going to be better just for the support alone.
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I totally agree with you here. The NS just showed the entire world that hardware isn't everything. Sometimes it gets to the point where hardware is pointless to move further, and its more about functionality/usability. This is what NS is trying to change, and I have no doubt it will work. Luckily SE and some other brands are going the same path. Unlike some blind place where tech has to be the newest and the best of all times. Tell me what would you use it for, compile codes? encode video? music editing? It's a phone for god's sake. I'm happy to see people are seeing the message from Google's intention that specs isn't everything. They're clearing the cloud to the new models that follow the same footsteps. In my opinion, the release of NS actually sheds light for Anzu to shine too. Since SE will be focusing on the usability/functionality, it is up to them to make sure it is of quality that they always have.
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Hm....may be both? All I was told is the tech related. I have no clue about resolution at the moment.
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All I was told is the tech related. I have no clue about resolution at the moment.
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Well, hopefully it is some kind of Sony developed (NOT pen-tile) OLED. But that might be asking too much.....
I don't care about resolution. It's going to be at least 480x854, which is plenty good enough imo. Any more is not really noticeable at normal viewing distances and would just lead to unnecessary cpu/gpu load. (again, just imo)
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Ahem... ah - when was the last time anyone got 450hrs of standby on their x10... the 10hrs talk time is bull$hit, and I think we all know that...
Sometimes I half lucky to get 10hrs standby...
So maybe the Nexus S just has an accurate talk time as opposed to a highly inflated one...
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non of the models can sustain their claimed talking hours unless you plan to fully charge it and disable everything that the processor uses and then make the call
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non of the models can sustain their claimed talking hours unless you plan to fully charge it and disable everything that the processor uses and then make the call
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Yes, I always find those claims to be outrageously laughable. They should always be taken with a grain of salt. I'm just pleased that my battery does hold up well at least.
HDMI port
-Exmor R sensor
-Full multitouch
-Qriocity
-thinner
-multicoloured back covers
-Timescape plugins
Display
-4.2” FWVGA (854x480) Capacitive display
-X.LED multi-touch display
-Capacitive multi-touch
-Scratch resistant mineral glass
-16 Million display color
-Auto rotate
Facts about anzu. Thanx to lollylost.
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HDMI port
-Exmor R sensor
-Full multitouch
-Qriocity
-thinner
-multicoloured back covers
-Timescape plugins
Display
-4.2” FWVGA (854x480) Capacitive display
-X.LED multi-touch display
-Capacitive multi-touch
-Scratch resistant mineral glass
-16 Million display color
-Auto rotate
Facts about anzu. Thanx to lollylost.
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Hmm...not sure about Exmor. Anzu is not camera oriented. It might have the same module as the X10. Just 8MP. There will be something else carrying the Exmor sensor, and it is a full streamed camera oriented device The rest is pretty obvious, so no new info there really...The Xperia lineups will be oriented into different segments. Bravia, Cybershot, etc.
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Ahem... ah - when was the last time anyone got 450hrs of standby on their x10... the 10hrs talk time is bull$hit, and I think we all know that...
Sometimes I half lucky to get 10hrs standby...
So maybe the Nexus S just has an accurate talk time as opposed to a highly inflated one...
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I know the X10 can't sustain 10hrs of talk time, but i don't think the Nexus S will sustain the promised 6hrs (which the X10 can do in my case)
My X10 can do 2 days of standby (without heavy usage)
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Hmm...not sure about Exmor. Anzu is not camera oriented. It might have the same module as the X10. Just 8MP. There will be something else carrying the Exmor sensor, and it is a full streamed camera oriented device The rest is pretty obvious, so no new info there really...The Xperia lineups will be oriented into different segments. Bravia, Cybershot, etc.
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Any info about the timescape plugins? because we should be getting those too for the x10....
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Any info about the timescape plugins? because we should be getting those too for the x10....
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Haven't played with the unit personally so I cannot say. There's alot of difference in terms of apps and plug-ins between Anzu and X10, but I cannot say if X10 will also get it.
Perhaps this will be part of the UXP update? I'm sure I read about extra stuff for timescape and media scape in the update, not that anyone uses them mind tbh lol
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steve.adams.x10 said:
Perhaps this will be part of the UXP update? I'm sure I read about extra stuff for timescape and media scape in the update, not that anyone uses them mind tbh lol
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Yes, the next update is an UXP heavy update. Performance boost plus massive Timescape + Mediascape update. I love the Mediascape Timescape, haven't used it much. I only use it to update my status so it shows "Update by Sony Ericsson X10"
Tbh I'm not overfussed about mediascape, power amp knocks the socks off it even tho no video or photo support for music it is simply the best and iv yet really to find a use for time scape but I won't say no to a performance boost
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The Arc looks like a fantastic all around phone in that it has great clear/loud sound/with mega bass. I wonder if this phone is using the Wolfson chip.
Takes great pictures in low light/video is smooth/Hdmi mirroring. Very smooth UI and great colors on the screen.
It has a single core Qualcomm Scorpion MSM8255 processor. I realize its not a Dual Core phone but since they are just entering the market I would prefer to go with a single core 2nd generation phone.
I was thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy S II but Samsung is still doing updates on the first Galaxy S and I don't trust them re updates.
Sony has stated that they did not handle updates for the X10 very well but promise to do a lot better with updates in regards to the Arc,I believe them.
Furthermore bigger isn;t always better.(Dual Core Vs Single Core)
In the end I want a phone that has clarity/volume in regards to phone calls/Great Camera/Good Video/can play games on it.
Would love to hear your opinions on the Arc Pro/Con.
how could you believe a thief when he tells you he won't steal anything anymore...
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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apparently this is not the case. The hard lockdown on devices in the past has made it hard even for SE to upgrade the phones. The new phones are said to have a more open bootloader to make it easier to update
+1 for the Neo (how could SE have stuffed up and not given their flagship model a front facing camera.. but given the cheaper model the same fancy new screen and camera chip and also given it a Front camera!) are they really that stupid?
I'm going buy an HTC or Samsung next..and if not them a motorola.. after those choices.. I might consider a Neo
Kiwi
And so here I am on a brand new Arc. Had it for a day or so and must say it's been very smooth so far. My latest phone was an X10i so this is not terribly different...
Anyway, first impressions are very good. Great screen. Native Exchange integration is perfect (except I can't sort contacts by other than first name, believe this is an Android quirk). WiFi tethering was very smooth. DLNA was hitch-free. In-call sound quality is very good, I'd say better than the other Xperias I've had (apparently it has a little mic that takes up background noice to cancel it out, though I think I'll need to fly with a head-set to experience this properly). Why they've switched the "menu" and "back" buttons around I can't understand for the love of me, but maybe there's a reason...
Overall, with my short experience it's been great, so far. Certainly a phone I would recommend to any non-X10 user and probably to those that have X10s, as well.
Cheers for now/M
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what a lucky person!!! i love the phone so much. you must be very close to SE. so can you please advise when it will be released. it think april is too late to wait. im keen to have the phone right away.
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A video review from a guy at ESATO forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIiD5he1S8
My thoughts...very nice design, good screen and very good camera, the bad? it lags too much.
oh wow, I just actually clicked on the video LOL I know that person personally since he's in Thailand. Like both him/I said, wait for the final firmware. That unit he has is still a very early prototype, no where near the final. Some of the hardware isn't even implemented yet, you can tell which . Cheers
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
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look,when you talking about you don't trust sgs which is only 3 months younger than x10 and got 2.2 update almost the same time as x10 got 2.1, and knowing that SE announced x10 would never receive 2.2 but samsung never claim they won't provide further version, but then you said you trust in SE?
i don't think you need any oppinion at all.
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Got to play the arc, neo and play last night, and I also saw the arc at CES. Its certainly improved since then, and huggee fast first time round.
One thing I noticed is that the widget overview is now smooth, no lag like before.
As for neo vs arc, there are lots of similarities, but when you pick the phones up the arc feels better, special somehow. The neo feels normal... Also the display is better on the arc.
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Does arc support 3g video call?
GN Multimedia - X10i
Nope. No front-view camera.
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Nope. No front-view camera.
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Thanks. So sad... really 3g video call feature.
GN Multimedia - X10i
Neo vs Arc..... I'll say Arc for the design, never used front cameras and don't see a reason to use it
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i am really happy eith it, is fast and has one of the most important thnigs to me... design, the galaxy brand look like crap and are based on iphone design
There are Differences on Arc and Neo not just the Looks
Arc
>Clear Black Panel(No Air Gap, Great Sunlight Legibility, 20% more Brighter than Neo)
>Lightweight(117g) vs (126g)
>Slim Arc Body(8.7mm~10.5mm) vs (13mm)
>Screen Size 4.2" vs 3.7"
Neo
>Front Facing Camera
>Better Hardware Positions(Camera Sensor, Shutter Key)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4oP1IkOzC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgRiMgUBD40
So thoughts here? I think the Arc holds its own against this beast and looks a billion dollars beside that piece of slab.
Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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I found it the other way around.. SGS II display is a bit dark, but maybe that's all the video camera's fault too.
Yeah I thought the GS2 looked very blue when they were both displaying a white background.
Still glad I bought an Arc!
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Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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No it look like that on the camera. i also had that when making a movie of the screen between lcd and amoled. Amoled looked always better but in reality they where the same. and sometime the arc screen was better (playing movie).
so don't be mislead with what you see on camera
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Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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I had both phones and the main reason I stayed with Arc is because of display. GS2 colors are way-off from reality. Darks look very dark. For example, my contacts photo looked terrible when they had shadows on their face while on Arc, they looked like they looked on my PC LCD Monitor.
Arc color with Bravia Engine looks very natural where SG2 looks very artificial. I like Arc's display the most.
speed aside, arc wins over sgs2 hands down and the stock home launcher is actually the prettiest-looking among other manufacturer IMO
The speed difference is NOTHING for real usage.
In reverse Samsung looks like cheap **** and Arc looks like a masterpiece.
It's design is real. Samsung is just disgusting. The same with UI.
(My opinions).
And one very important thing:
Arc may be tad slower sometimes but do you see HOW MUCH LAG SGSII has EACH time coming back to homescreen?! Outrageous considering it's DOUBLE POWER.
And besides that SGSII has some serious flaws like NO multiple email delete (!!!).
Those things are "kindly" omitted BTW in Eldars review proving again that he's manipulator and cheater.
C'mon guys. Double core will be something next year. Now it's just a gimmick.
OK, go look at 1st video:
- at 6:20 :
See how well-lit the left wall and the ground on SE Arc, while GS II display really dark color
- at 6:29 :
The surrounding around 2 pillars are still well-lit on SE arc, not so much in GS II
- Rotating planet at 6:35:
SE arc shows a nice blue space on the background, while in SGS II, it's darker. You can also see the total-roundness of the orange planet, while in SGS II you don't see it.
From the video, that's what I noticed in display.
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Although at 6:44, the rotating DNA animation, the blue displayed in Arc is a bit more cyan-ish, while in SGS II display a deep blue. Which one is the correct one? idk.
Im still happy with the arc i dont give a crap!
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Im really happy with my arc to! I am really glad I didnt wait for SGSII as I planned.
The reviewer has a real hate on for the Arc, don't trust what he says...
In his Nexus S vs Arc he claimed the Nexus S as the winner, and every other phone he put against the Arc he claimed the Arc as the loser. Don't believe me? Check out his website in the video discription.
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The reviewer has a real hate on for the Arc, don't trust what he says...
In his Nexus S vs Arc he claimed the Nexus S as the winner, and every other phone he put against the Arc he claimed the Arc as the loser. Don't believe me? Check out his website in the video discription.
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I agree with you on this. This guy has a real hang up with SE whatever his issue is. My missus has the nexus s and it doesnt come near imo
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gunstar3035 said:
The reviewer has a real hate on for the Arc, don't trust what he says...
In his Nexus S vs Arc he claimed the Nexus S as the winner, and every other phone he put against the Arc he claimed the Arc as the loser. Don't believe me? Check out his website in the video discription.
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You talk about Eldar?
arc just beats the crap out of galaxy s2.. sony is sony.. sony means style, sony means design.. no one can reach up to it.. s2 is nothing but a big brick..
arc nails in terms of design and style.. performence is just behind a fraction of seconds.. who cares about that.. if that little fraction of second is what the advantage of a dual core device.. then **** it..
i still have an x10.. and after using it.. all other phones just look crap.. styleless.. if thats a word..lol
As this is a duplicate of this thread....
Discussion can be continued over there.....
I had an Xperia S for a week. And I hated it. So I got my arc S back and I couldn't be happier.
If you're ever tempted by an Xperia S - don't do it. It's just not good enough.
Why?it is faster,and screen is much better.
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I tried xperia s and find it heavier, worse picture quality, worse design and i missed the physical buttons. So i stick with arc S, still my fovorite so far.
I felt the build quality was poorer than the arc. Wasn't as big a step forward as is claimed, tbh.
isnt the dual core do nothing for it??
I was all for getting one, until I had one in the hand, two big for my liking. I really want my next Phone to be Sony, but if they continue the trend of creating bricks like most manufactures seem to be doing these days then I'll stick with my S.E and I might just upgrade to the Arc S.
I don't want a mini tablet as a Phone.
Wait for the GX guys, it's true Arc successor.
I'm waiting for SX to replace my Ray
I think 4-4,3 inch is the limit for the smartphone. Everything above is... tablet. Arc S is good enough for me.
I think the bigger a phone the better, I thought the xperia s looked good in the pictures but when held it irl it feels fat and the bezel looks really thick (big turnoff). But I'd still go for performance over design.
Sent from my Arc S with JJ's ROM installed + stock kernel.
What I didn't like:
Soft buttons are terrible - often takes 2 or 3 taps for then to work. Very frustrating.
Terrible battery life on the latest ICS F/W.
Heavy and uncomfortable to hold for long.
Bravia engine doesn't work on latest ICS F/W.
Power Saver app completely useless.
Sony UK refusing to repair screen tint issues if you've unlocked the bootloader.
Occasional hang when using the Quick Launch camera button.
Fonts too small for me - and using Large option only works in some apps and is ignored by Timescape, etc.
The flap on the USB port won't last long.
Stupid menu design for the launcher.
Widget picker takes 5 seconds to appear.
This phone looks great on paper but feels half-finished to me. I can see why the reviews were so lacklustre now.
So I'm back using my arc S which I will keep until I've saved up for a Galaxy Nexus. Sony have done a poor job of ICS and I they no longer have my trust. Why can't they produce a couple of excellent devices instead of releasing mediocre phones every few months? The mind boggles.
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
I find it ridiculous when people say " the bigger the phone, the better." Perhaps ego issues to compensate for something else ? Lol
Seriously, it is silly to put a tablet sized phone next to your eat. Just don't, please, for the love of god.
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Thanks for the review guys as my x10 is up for upgrade in 2-3 months time and was naturally thinking of this, I am a se fanboy.
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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zolaisugly said:
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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I'd hang fire, I've got 8 months left on my contract so I've got plenty of time to see what Sony can come up with in the future. I was going to sell my Arc the other week and get a Ray as I was wanting something smaller but after some thought decided to stick with the Arc in the end. There's nothing that I really like when I look at line up on GSMArena, maybe the Arco S but I'd have to hold it before deciding.
rec71 said:
What I didn't like:
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Soft buttons ARE terrible, even calendar launcher(lower left corner) interrupts with user interaction.
a mid range / mid end device doing a very nice job. even hdmi output is surprisingly smooth.
well, fairly spoken I had no expectations with ics, even sony's official website claims that, I never understood that, why some people got confused with "improved" performance and "speedy" UI, they both are different things.
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
romiltherock said:
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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100% true. When I first booted JJHybrid 3.2 it was a rocket comparing to stock ICS. Now with few apps instaled (<30), everything lags, even keyboard, which should be one of the main things in phone. Looks like, arc S in my last Sony phone.....from now on I am 85% sure, my next phone will be Galaxy Nexus.
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rec71 said:
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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I haven't looked at PowerAmp for about 6 months. I didn't like it much though but will take another look.
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
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Traviizter said:
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
how about mort player?
remember most android users are free bee :highfive:
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