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This is not a thread to bash or degrade the X10 at all in any way. I really like my X10 it's a great phone, I enjoy using it. Problem is my wife does as well.
So I gave her the phone because she need a good camera and something to watch movies etc with while on vacation.
So now I'm back with my rooted/hacked Magic which I like but not so much after using the X10. I was going to just buy another but wanted to be sure first, so to my question.
Anyone that has tried a different phone and moved to a X10 or has dropped the X10 for a different phone, whats the closest competitor or upgrade?
It has to be usable on Rogers 3g and can't be an Iphone, I will never own an apple product so that shouldn't be a debate.
Thanks for any feedback just want some options, maybe I already have the best one out there.
I would buy it again, I've even turned down an offer to trade mine in for a Desire. Only way I'd switch would be if there was a bigger Snapdragon version of the Legend available.
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X10 all the way
I would buy it again too. I just love the design, the camera, Mediascape and the screen. However I would be really tempted between the X10 and Galaxy S. The Galaxy S has an even better screen then our X10. However the Galaxy sucks design wise, I mean, it's just like an iFart 3G(S), even the menu looks the same. The Galaxy S feels a lot faster though. It just flies through all the different menus and screens.
So if you like me love the design, camera and Mediascape of the X10 , then buy it again. Otherwise I would take a good look at the Galaxy S.
X10 it is a wonderful phone, but this delay about android 2.1 and froyo annoys me...
I was looking through the specs on the Galaxy-S. Actually thought it would be a pretty nice phone till I actually saw it. And the fact it has a AMOLED screen, they seem blurry to me and way over saturated.
How does the Nexus compare, can't seem to see anything else that compares to the X10.
I will only exchange my X10 for a Droid X or dell Streak.
Droid X becuase it has similar specs (camera and bigger screen) and good firmware support. Dell Streak for the screen size and possibly 2.2 very soon.
But love my X10 for its camera, screen, Mediascape, Dialler, TrackID and lack of firmware update. You just cant beat that.
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I will only exchange my X10 for a Droid X or dell Streak.
Droid X becuase it has similar specs (camera and bigger screen) and good firmware support. Dell Streak for the screen size and possibly 2.2 very soon.
But love my X10 for its camera, screen, Mediascape, Dialler, TrackID and lack of firmware update. You just cant beat that.
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Thanks yes that was the other one I was thinking about just couldn't remember. The Droid X looks very nice, not big on the hardware keyboard but the rest of the specs look wicked and the looks itself I don't mind king of industrial. But I don't see that they have one for Rogers 3G bands (same as AT&T) It would be right on the top of my list if they have one that will work Rogers. Streak it very nice but getting into tablet size IMO.
I would buy it again.
I can overlook the 2.1 delay and no 2.2 in the near future.
I'm enjoying my first taste of Android.
The media capabilities are nice, video & audio are clear and smooth.
The processor is extremely quick.
I like the large screen.
I don't need a hardware keyboard.
It is less practical than winmo, but more entertainment oriented.
The camera is excellent.
I think you should wait a couple weeks and see what happens with flashing CM6 on the X10, if things go well then I'd go for another one for sure, otherwise choose something else.
Having said that, if you can't wait an additional few months lol, buy the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S Captivate...geeze mouthful or HTC Desire (which Telus will have in stock real soon and I think will work on Rogers 3G??) still imho one of, if not THE best phones on the market. And come October/November there will be even more great choices on the market...patience is a virtue
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I would buy it again.
I can overlook the 2.1 delay and no 2.2 in the near future.
I'm enjoying my first taste of Android.
The media capabilities are nice, video & audio are clear and smooth.
The processor is extremely quick.
I like the large screen.
I don't need a hardware keyboard.
It is less practical than winmo, but more entertainment oriented.
The camera is excellent.
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Exactly the same sentiments as me. I just wanted an android phone and my carrier only offered X10 at a discounted rate. But I am extremely pleased. Plus it makes my blackberry friends jealous since they try to talk crap about my phone to make themselves feel better.
I would yes, as it's a beautiful piece of equipment, and will happily sit out the wait for 2.1, and who knows, maybe sometime later the devs on here will get 2.2 on it.
4 months ago... yes
today no... i would wait for September or even Christmas.
Yes.....after de-applefying myself from my old Iphone, i love this new bit of Kit. Sure ths OS isnt current and the battery is a little needy. But the hardware/software relationship is great and the device its self is fantastic.
I love my X10
Rooted already, tethering done, since root my batter goes x2 time , great thanks to xda people.
Screen is so great.
Well a lot of things, maybe the Froyo not support is the only thing I miss here, but I'm patient about it
As far as I'm concerned its the best android phone out there, I've tried the nexus one, milestone and the HTC legend and the x10 was the best when it came to reception and battery life. I just wish it came with 2.1 at the very least. I'm on my 3rd x10 btw, I keep going back to it
Thanks for all the opinions guys. Yeah I'm a fan since I bought it that's why it's hard to figure if I want another one or try out the latest and greatest.
Not new to Android I've had a Magic since the day they came to Canada I love to OS no selling me on that. Battery is a none issue I charge every night regardless, had to do it with my Magic as well. (heavy user)
So far I think the only one that looks to be able to grab my attention from the X10 would be the Droid X if I can find one that uses Rogers 3G bands.
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4 months ago... yes
today no... i would wait for September or even Christmas.
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I can't seem to find anything up and coming that would make me wait. Any info on what you think would be worth the wait. I'm not in a huge hurry, but now that I've used the X10 it's hard to use the little Magic again.
I just did as I moved from T-mobile to AT&T. Had X10i in white for a long while now and then purchase X10a in Black. I didn't like the Black X10 as much as the white one. So, purchased a White X10a. Yesterday, I went to AT&T store and played with Samsung Captivate and have to tell you I like my X10a even more. SE came up with a design that can't be beaten for a long while. I wonder how much better can SE do with their X10 upgrade.
Some things they can do to make X10 upgrade even more sexy:
1. Little sleeker or keep same size but fit in bigger and better battery.
2. Sony Ericsson logo on top or Xperia logo at bottom to act like Notification light (battery drainer?)
3. 4 buttons
4. A Glossy Premium Carbon metal body (like Z series Vaio) for the front side.
absolutely i never buy sonyericsson device one more time!
i have just not really happy with T68 (some years ago..) and p900i.
i try SE X10 for the top class hw feature, but i have to admit that this "phone" is not very usefull for me.
battery life is a huge problem.
the touchscreen some time is not responding fine.
the sound quality and volume level is not sufficient (i have Nokia N95-1, is tremendous louder compared to x10 !!) , that's absolutely NOT acceptable from a brand wich contain the word "sony" on his brandname.
plus, the lag of the official software development on this phone.
if this is the top-class device from SE, it must deserve a top-class development , i think
sorry for too many words, but i'm really disappointed with this phone.
I Would yes,
I love the phone , i love the design , x10 feels like a classy phone with very elegant design.
I am very satisfied with the latest updates , my battery life holds more than enough.
And i love the freaking screen !!!
I cant wait to run 2.1
Cheers
Hey guys,
I am with Rogers, and will be buying my phone cash for the full price. Because of this I am really trying to figure out what phone would be best to purchase because I don't want to make an $800 mistake.
I have had 2 Android phones in the past, an Xperia x10 and a Samsung Captivate.
I am basically torn between the Xperia Arc, and the Nexus S. I am also considering by a long shot the White iphone 4, though I am absolutely bored to tears with iOS and am not really interested...I guess call it the fall back device if I can't make up my mind between the Arc and Nexus S.
Anyways, if you guys have any opinions on either I would really like some help. I have been trying to figure it out, watching hours and hours of reviews and reading written reviews. But no one talks about the things I would like to know like how much bigger the screen is on the Arc compared to the Nexus S for example, or is it hard to lock the Arc with its little power button? Anyways any help is very much welcome.
I should also note I am not planning to root the phone and am keeping everything stock.
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I should also note I am not planning to root the phone and am keeping everything stock.
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Dude are you serious??! The Arc blows the nexus S all the way.
The Arc looks 100% more stylish and better looking, thinner, bigger screen and fits better in your pocket.
The Arc's camera is mind blowing, the screen is gorgeous leave aside how much fast and smooth the phone really functions & operates.
The majority of Arc users are happy and satisfied. This is no X10, this phones is miles ahead. So, if you loved your X10, then I'm warning you that you may be obsessed with the Arc
There is a reason behind choosing the Arc to be the #1 for 2011 :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/04/25/techradar-crowns-xperia-arc-best-mobile-in-world-today/
Hope this helps a little
I've owned a lot of phones (not the Captivate though) and I find the Arc the pick of the lot (althugh the original HTC Desire comes close).
Overall, even though the screen is 4.2", the phone is extremely compact. It is a bit taller than the Nexus S, but due to it's thinness feels the same size as the Nexus S. The physical buttons are a major advantage (IMHO) and there's no issues with the small power button. The screen is pretty good (probably not as good as the AMOLEDs) and tends to look a bit washed out when viewing from certain angles, but it is not an issue for me. Also, SE's UI is quite minimalistic and actually enhances the Android experience.
Why don't you pick up an Arc and play with it? You have 15 days (and 30 mins of talktime) to try it? If you don't like it, you can return it and pick up the Captivate.
Thanks guys so much for the input.
I think the thing I am worrying about with the Arc is the lack of a front facing camera, but I am loving the screen size and rear camera.
With the nexus S I like the thought of pure and quick updates, but the lack of 720p recording and build quality is concerning me...
Oh and lets just forget I mentioned iphone 4, I dont want another iphone ever again : /
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Thanks guys so much for the input.
I think the thing I am worrying about with the Arc is the lack of a front facing camera, but I am loving the screen size and rear camera.
With the nexus S I like the thought of pure and quick updates, but the lack of 720p recording and build quality is concerning me...
Oh and lets just forget I mentioned iphone 4, I dont want another iphone ever again : /
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The moment you hold the Arc in your hands, you'll totally forget about the front facing camera! The phone is really that good, just go and play with it for a while and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
The nexus S has a terrible camera, no external storage, fugly+ugly looks and my main concern is that in case you need support with the phone it won't be easy to get access to it like in case you get the iphone or the Arc.
Thinking too much will just drive you nuts! I've been there trust me. If I were you, I would eliminate the Nexus S and go straight for the Arc! Unless you still have some love for the iphone
Ur call pal! But one thing I know for sure, I still haven't ran across one Arc owner that did regret his purchase.
Take a look at some of the pics that I took with the Xperia Neo, and I can assure you that the Arc is in the same level since I own both of them now :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059189
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There is a reason behind choosing the Arc to be the #1 for 2011 :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/04/25/techradar-crowns-xperia-arc-best-mobile-in-world-today/
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You might want to look again.
It was number one for about a week, not number one for 2011
I used a Nexus S for a few weeks prior to getting my Arc.
No question, Arc all the way.
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The moment you hold the Arc in your hands, you'll totally forget about the front facing camera! The phone is really that good, just go and play with it for a while and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
The nexus S has a terrible camera, no external storage, fugly+ugly looks and my main concern is that in case you need support with the phone it won't be easy to get access to it like in case you get the iphone or the Arc.
Thinking too much will just drive you nuts! I've been there trust me. If I were you, I would eliminate the Nexus S and go straight for the Arc! Unless you still have some love for the iphone
Ur call pal! But one thing I know for sure, I still haven't ran across one Arc owner that did regret his purchase.
Take a look at some of the pics that I took with the Xperia Neo, and I can assure you that the Arc is in the same level since I own both of them now :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059189
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Thanks man, I will check out the pics too. I am honestly leaning towards the Arc right now. It looks like it is everything the x10 should have been, and even more.
3 questions about the Arc: How is texting/Screen sensitivity? and How do you find locking the device? Does the UI feel zippy?
Thanks again guys, your the best!
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I am basically torn between the Xperia Arc, and the Nexus S.
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Get Nexus S IF
1. it's design appeals to you more than Arc.
2. if you don't care about LED Notification.
3. Camera and HD video quality are not of higher importance.
4. screen brightness in day light doesn't have to be great.
5. having the latest greatest official update from Google is important.
6. front facing camera is a must. Also remember the Android 2.3.4 update has GoogleTalk that supports video chat.
For me, what I would want but will miss on my Arc is item 6.
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Thanks man, I will check out the pics too. I am honestly leaning towards the Arc right now. It looks like it is everything the x10 should have been, and even more.
3 questions about the Arc: How is texting/Screen sensitivity? and How do you find locking the device? Does the UI feel zippy?
Thanks again guys, your the best!
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You shouldn't lean towards the Arc, you should go and buy it right away
Texting/screen sensitivity is perfect! I can claim confidently that Sony aced it this time. I know they had it in them but they were acting like douche bags before hehe, but this time they did a great job.
The UI is not zippy! Sorry, it's super duper zippy
The only things that lags a little is timescape and also when loading the pics from the new widget that sony created. However, I only noticed this when I switch the phone off and restart it again.
Other than that it works flawlessly, this may be the fastest android phone you could get, I seriously mean it.
And ya no need to root it to install some lagfix if you know what I mean hehe
Get the Arc. I've owned several Nexus S and it's fine, but not exceptional. The Arc is a head turner and it does everything well. I like the wall to wall screen with no borders. I write about these things, so I use them all, and of all the Android phones, the one I would take for myself as my personal phone is the Arc.
I would say definitely that the arc is miles ahead of the nexus S.
The only conceivable reason to buy the nexus over the arc is if you absolutely have to have the latest version of android ASAP. Apart from that the nexus is a deeply, deeply average phone.
There are a couple of phones out there that i can see some people choosing over the arc (though personally i'd still go with the arc) but the nexus aint one of them.
The Nexus S is a Galaxy S running 2.3. That makes it a very good phone. It has a great display and it beats the Arc in most speed tests. My personal preference is still the Arc. I think that the Nexus S is a good choice regardless of the enthusiasm for the Arc in this thread. The Nexus S is pure Android and there's not a lot wrong with that. The Arc is sexy and it does everything well. Both phones work for me.
If I had to choose between the Xperia Arc and the Nexus S (or any 2 phones in general for that matter), what I'd do is go to a store and compare the devices side-by-side.
Three things where the Nexus S is better than the Xperia Arc are:
better viewing angles on the display
1GB apps storage on Nexus S vs. ~320-350MB on Xperia Arc
Nexus S has hardware Search button; Xperia Arc doesn't
NFC [this may become really big really soon]
Front-facing camera
The Xperia Arc advantages over Nexus S:
much better camera [8.2MP vs. 5MP]
HDMI port
720p video recording
slightly higher screen resolution [854×480 vs. 800×480]
possibility for PlayStation-certification because internals are very similar to Xperia Play [not sure though]
Having said that, I own both devices. Regarding apps storage, I am using ~270MB on both, and that is growing very very slowly, so it is not a concern for me [yet!].
Im planning to get a new phone, the infuse or g2x which one should i pick...i still love my x10 (
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G2x over the infuse definetly. The dual core processor is awesome and its fast, awesome screen, and one of the best out there
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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LOL
wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
DooMLoRD said:
if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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Now here is someone who knows what he's talking about....
You'd be stupid to buy an arc right now imo.
SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
riginal said:
Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
Impresive responses, thank you guys!
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wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
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Ever heard of advise?
fiscidtox said:
I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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1 second faster?? lol
Where are you getting these numbers?
Also, 1 second of speed for a cpu makes a hell of a difference, one second of lag vs. one second of no lag.
It is 2-3 times more powerful and has at least double the quadrant score and linpack.
The cpu/gpu is a current gen vs. an outdated one.
You can think whatever you want, but electronics is my job/field.
The sgs2 is far more advanced than the arc.
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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precisely...
the dual core chips (MSM8660/Terga2) were already available they should have atleast kept the "Flagship" phones i.e. the Arc & Play with latest hardware and kept the rest on single core (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
BTW i already have the Arc, its a beautiful device but not really that powerful...
still like my X10 with all the dev thats going around... its challenging
I have ordered a S2 and will recive ut in about 2weeks. It. Will be my first phone that is not a sony Ericsson.
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The SGS2 has definetely some lagg. But not as much as on arc. Fanboys My next phone will be a quadcore from HTC If it comes haha!
I got an offer to exchange my x10i for a " HTC Incredible S " I love my x10i a lot but still if there's any worthy advantages in terms of battery under heavy usage then i wanna opt for the Incredible S .
I also think that the development going on in XDA is very slow for Incredible S , i'm also worried about it.
I know its a lot capable than x10 in terms of performance but what about heavy usage battery life and development ? ...
please suggest guys .. Also if someone owns an incredible s please mention your battery life reviews.
No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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+1 -> this is definitely another league!
Of course... proper multitouch, no fps cap... go for it man. Lucky
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No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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yes i know that, incredible s is total different class , but still i m worried about the development that's going on for it , x10's development threads are like 5 times more than incredible s' and i heard there are not much custom ROMs for it and no sections about undervolting too ... can someone who knows better about the development going on over incredible s suggest me something ?
That seems way to good to be true... be very cautious about being cheated. As long as there is nothing wrong with the HTC I'd do it.
The battery capacity on the Incredible is slightly smaller, I'd say it might have a little bit over the X10 in battery life because of an updated kernel.
But it would be hard for me to give up a very good looking phone such as the X10.
someone talk about the chances of android development for incredible s please .. cause no matter what mobile we have , we get bored without development right ?
Dude htc phones have way more development. Check other forums not just xda...
That is an awesome deal you'd be stupid not to take
For design, battery life and camera, custom roms etc X10
For speed, updates, choose the incredible S.
I don't think there will be a big developers community for the S because HTC has released a lot of 2.3 devices recently. I think the vast majority will get the desire s or sensation as the incredible S isn't one of the best looking htc's (especially the backcover. Personally I think all HTC's are ugly except the Legend and the new desire S.
and as skystars said, atm there aren't phones that really look better than the x10. Personally I think the x10 is still the best looking android phone available( less plasticy feel than the arc)
If I were you I would wait a while when newer phones come out. Later this year were expecting android ice cream sandwich which delivers a completely new user interface. Both the incredible s and x10 have (get) gingerbread so you won't get anything 'new'.
You can also get the incredible S, sell it, and buy an x10 again
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For design, battery life and camera, custom roms etc X10
For speed, updates, choose the incredible S.
I don't think there will be a big developers community for the S because HTC has released a lot of 2.3 devices recently. I think the vast majority will get the desire s or sensation as the incredible S isn't one of the best looking htc's (especially the backcover. Personally I think all HTC's are ugly except the Legend and the new desire S.
and as skystars said, atm there aren't phones that really look better than the x10. Personally I think the x10 is still the best looking android phone available( less plasticy feel than the arc)
If I were you I would wait a while when newer phones come out. Later this year were expecting android ice cream sandwich which delivers a completely new user interface. Both the incredible s and x10 have (get) gingerbread so you won't get anything 'new'.
You can also get the incredible S, sell it, and buy an x10 again
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This is a huge fanboy post...
First off he is getting a new phone with a better processor for an old phone.
Secondly the camera on the incredible s is about the same as the x10
The htc is new and already has nearly as much development (even on here) as the x10. It will only grow even more.
Anyone who tells him not to should get their head checked.
Also, am I the only person who doesn't think the x10 is that amazing looking? No one I know seems very impressed by it, it doesn't turn any heads
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This is a huge fanboy post...
First off he is getting a new phone with a better processor for an old phone.
Secondly the camera on the incredible s is about the same as the x10
The htc is new and already has nearly as much development (even on here) as the x10. It will only grow even more.
Anyone who tells him not to should get their head checked.
Also, am I the only person who doesn't think the x10 is that amazing looking? No one I know seems very impressed by it, it doesn't turn any heads
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yes, you are correct
BTW the camera in incredible S is far better than our x10's ... i think the lens are a little advanced .. i checked it myself .. its very fast and snappy and images are surely better .. alright then i m taking it ..
thank you guyzz ... hope i will be in touch here in x10's dev too ...
why would the incredible s need alot of development when the stock rom on it is 10 times faster than our custom roms? go for it!
n4naveen said:
yes, you are correct
BTW the camera in incredible S is far better than our x10's ... i think the lens are a little advanced .. i checked it myself .. its very fast and snappy and images are surely better .. alright then i m taking it ..
thank you guyzz ... hope i will be in touch here in x10's dev too ...
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X10 camera is better, just compare them at gsmarena dot com and you'll see way.
sjondenon said:
X10 camera is better, just compare them at gsmarena dot com and you'll see way.
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I disagree...
Go look at actual pics from both.
Read reviews and look at the pic quality
scoobysnacks said:
I disagree...
Go look at actual pics from both.
Read reviews and look at the pic quality
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Im sorry to say this but the htc cameras suck! Do not ever say its better than the x10's camera. Im an actual photographer and have actually been doing family portraits and weddings lately...i know how to compare properly...and there hasnt been one htc phone that i checked out that has a "good" camera. Incredible s probably destroys the x10 in every other category but there cameras are less then average. I havent posted in a while, but when i read that i just had to
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Im sorry to say this but the htc cameras suck! Do not ever say its better than the x10's camera. Im an actual photographer and have actually been doing family portraits and weddings lately...i know how to compare properly...and there hasnt been one htc phone that i checked out that has a "good" camera. Incredible s probably destroys the x10 in every other category but there cameras are less then average. I havent posted in a while, but when i read that i just had to
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Have you tried it? Or gone and looked?
Sounds like you're making assumptions to me
scoobysnacks said:
Have you tried it? Or gone and looked?
Sounds like you're making assumptions to me
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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PlayGungsta, is this really you, again?! haha, 3rd account... strange that this time your not a girl...?
Also, always writting ''hi ( someones nickname here ),'' and ''ragerds, bla bla bla'' is just foolish unless your like a moderator here or really respected...
iDarkyVM said:
Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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Once again, all I'm saying is don't jump to conclusions united you have proof/evidence...
Lots of people said the same about samsung before the sgs2 camera came out.
so it's wrong of me to say not to generalize, and to want sufficient evidence? From what I've heard and seen, it is quite good actually.
I listen to fact, not opinion...
I had an Xperia S for a week. And I hated it. So I got my arc S back and I couldn't be happier.
If you're ever tempted by an Xperia S - don't do it. It's just not good enough.
Why?it is faster,and screen is much better.
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I tried xperia s and find it heavier, worse picture quality, worse design and i missed the physical buttons. So i stick with arc S, still my fovorite so far.
I felt the build quality was poorer than the arc. Wasn't as big a step forward as is claimed, tbh.
isnt the dual core do nothing for it??
I was all for getting one, until I had one in the hand, two big for my liking. I really want my next Phone to be Sony, but if they continue the trend of creating bricks like most manufactures seem to be doing these days then I'll stick with my S.E and I might just upgrade to the Arc S.
I don't want a mini tablet as a Phone.
Wait for the GX guys, it's true Arc successor.
I'm waiting for SX to replace my Ray
I think 4-4,3 inch is the limit for the smartphone. Everything above is... tablet. Arc S is good enough for me.
I think the bigger a phone the better, I thought the xperia s looked good in the pictures but when held it irl it feels fat and the bezel looks really thick (big turnoff). But I'd still go for performance over design.
Sent from my Arc S with JJ's ROM installed + stock kernel.
What I didn't like:
Soft buttons are terrible - often takes 2 or 3 taps for then to work. Very frustrating.
Terrible battery life on the latest ICS F/W.
Heavy and uncomfortable to hold for long.
Bravia engine doesn't work on latest ICS F/W.
Power Saver app completely useless.
Sony UK refusing to repair screen tint issues if you've unlocked the bootloader.
Occasional hang when using the Quick Launch camera button.
Fonts too small for me - and using Large option only works in some apps and is ignored by Timescape, etc.
The flap on the USB port won't last long.
Stupid menu design for the launcher.
Widget picker takes 5 seconds to appear.
This phone looks great on paper but feels half-finished to me. I can see why the reviews were so lacklustre now.
So I'm back using my arc S which I will keep until I've saved up for a Galaxy Nexus. Sony have done a poor job of ICS and I they no longer have my trust. Why can't they produce a couple of excellent devices instead of releasing mediocre phones every few months? The mind boggles.
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
I find it ridiculous when people say " the bigger the phone, the better." Perhaps ego issues to compensate for something else ? Lol
Seriously, it is silly to put a tablet sized phone next to your eat. Just don't, please, for the love of god.
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Thanks for the review guys as my x10 is up for upgrade in 2-3 months time and was naturally thinking of this, I am a se fanboy.
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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I'd hang fire, I've got 8 months left on my contract so I've got plenty of time to see what Sony can come up with in the future. I was going to sell my Arc the other week and get a Ray as I was wanting something smaller but after some thought decided to stick with the Arc in the end. There's nothing that I really like when I look at line up on GSMArena, maybe the Arco S but I'd have to hold it before deciding.
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What I didn't like:
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Soft buttons ARE terrible, even calendar launcher(lower left corner) interrupts with user interaction.
a mid range / mid end device doing a very nice job. even hdmi output is surprisingly smooth.
well, fairly spoken I had no expectations with ics, even sony's official website claims that, I never understood that, why some people got confused with "improved" performance and "speedy" UI, they both are different things.
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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100% true. When I first booted JJHybrid 3.2 it was a rocket comparing to stock ICS. Now with few apps instaled (<30), everything lags, even keyboard, which should be one of the main things in phone. Looks like, arc S in my last Sony phone.....from now on I am 85% sure, my next phone will be Galaxy Nexus.
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I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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I haven't looked at PowerAmp for about 6 months. I didn't like it much though but will take another look.
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
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It's much better than any other music app I've found.
how about mort player?
remember most android users are free bee :highfive:
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