I got an offer to exchange my x10i for a " HTC Incredible S " I love my x10i a lot but still if there's any worthy advantages in terms of battery under heavy usage then i wanna opt for the Incredible S .
I also think that the development going on in XDA is very slow for Incredible S , i'm also worried about it.
I know its a lot capable than x10 in terms of performance but what about heavy usage battery life and development ? ...
please suggest guys .. Also if someone owns an incredible s please mention your battery life reviews.
No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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+1 -> this is definitely another league!
Of course... proper multitouch, no fps cap... go for it man. Lucky
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No doubt whatsoever. Incredible S.
Totally different class and anybody that tells you otherwise is a SE fan boy.
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yes i know that, incredible s is total different class , but still i m worried about the development that's going on for it , x10's development threads are like 5 times more than incredible s' and i heard there are not much custom ROMs for it and no sections about undervolting too ... can someone who knows better about the development going on over incredible s suggest me something ?
That seems way to good to be true... be very cautious about being cheated. As long as there is nothing wrong with the HTC I'd do it.
The battery capacity on the Incredible is slightly smaller, I'd say it might have a little bit over the X10 in battery life because of an updated kernel.
But it would be hard for me to give up a very good looking phone such as the X10.
someone talk about the chances of android development for incredible s please .. cause no matter what mobile we have , we get bored without development right ?
Dude htc phones have way more development. Check other forums not just xda...
That is an awesome deal you'd be stupid not to take
For design, battery life and camera, custom roms etc X10
For speed, updates, choose the incredible S.
I don't think there will be a big developers community for the S because HTC has released a lot of 2.3 devices recently. I think the vast majority will get the desire s or sensation as the incredible S isn't one of the best looking htc's (especially the backcover. Personally I think all HTC's are ugly except the Legend and the new desire S.
and as skystars said, atm there aren't phones that really look better than the x10. Personally I think the x10 is still the best looking android phone available( less plasticy feel than the arc)
If I were you I would wait a while when newer phones come out. Later this year were expecting android ice cream sandwich which delivers a completely new user interface. Both the incredible s and x10 have (get) gingerbread so you won't get anything 'new'.
You can also get the incredible S, sell it, and buy an x10 again
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For design, battery life and camera, custom roms etc X10
For speed, updates, choose the incredible S.
I don't think there will be a big developers community for the S because HTC has released a lot of 2.3 devices recently. I think the vast majority will get the desire s or sensation as the incredible S isn't one of the best looking htc's (especially the backcover. Personally I think all HTC's are ugly except the Legend and the new desire S.
and as skystars said, atm there aren't phones that really look better than the x10. Personally I think the x10 is still the best looking android phone available( less plasticy feel than the arc)
If I were you I would wait a while when newer phones come out. Later this year were expecting android ice cream sandwich which delivers a completely new user interface. Both the incredible s and x10 have (get) gingerbread so you won't get anything 'new'.
You can also get the incredible S, sell it, and buy an x10 again
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This is a huge fanboy post...
First off he is getting a new phone with a better processor for an old phone.
Secondly the camera on the incredible s is about the same as the x10
The htc is new and already has nearly as much development (even on here) as the x10. It will only grow even more.
Anyone who tells him not to should get their head checked.
Also, am I the only person who doesn't think the x10 is that amazing looking? No one I know seems very impressed by it, it doesn't turn any heads
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This is a huge fanboy post...
First off he is getting a new phone with a better processor for an old phone.
Secondly the camera on the incredible s is about the same as the x10
The htc is new and already has nearly as much development (even on here) as the x10. It will only grow even more.
Anyone who tells him not to should get their head checked.
Also, am I the only person who doesn't think the x10 is that amazing looking? No one I know seems very impressed by it, it doesn't turn any heads
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yes, you are correct
BTW the camera in incredible S is far better than our x10's ... i think the lens are a little advanced .. i checked it myself .. its very fast and snappy and images are surely better .. alright then i m taking it ..
thank you guyzz ... hope i will be in touch here in x10's dev too ...
why would the incredible s need alot of development when the stock rom on it is 10 times faster than our custom roms? go for it!
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yes, you are correct
BTW the camera in incredible S is far better than our x10's ... i think the lens are a little advanced .. i checked it myself .. its very fast and snappy and images are surely better .. alright then i m taking it ..
thank you guyzz ... hope i will be in touch here in x10's dev too ...
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X10 camera is better, just compare them at gsmarena dot com and you'll see way.
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X10 camera is better, just compare them at gsmarena dot com and you'll see way.
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I disagree...
Go look at actual pics from both.
Read reviews and look at the pic quality
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I disagree...
Go look at actual pics from both.
Read reviews and look at the pic quality
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Im sorry to say this but the htc cameras suck! Do not ever say its better than the x10's camera. Im an actual photographer and have actually been doing family portraits and weddings lately...i know how to compare properly...and there hasnt been one htc phone that i checked out that has a "good" camera. Incredible s probably destroys the x10 in every other category but there cameras are less then average. I havent posted in a while, but when i read that i just had to
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Im sorry to say this but the htc cameras suck! Do not ever say its better than the x10's camera. Im an actual photographer and have actually been doing family portraits and weddings lately...i know how to compare properly...and there hasnt been one htc phone that i checked out that has a "good" camera. Incredible s probably destroys the x10 in every other category but there cameras are less then average. I havent posted in a while, but when i read that i just had to
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Have you tried it? Or gone and looked?
Sounds like you're making assumptions to me
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Have you tried it? Or gone and looked?
Sounds like you're making assumptions to me
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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PlayGungsta, is this really you, again?! haha, 3rd account... strange that this time your not a girl...?
Also, always writting ''hi ( someones nickname here ),'' and ''ragerds, bla bla bla'' is just foolish unless your like a moderator here or really respected...
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Hi scoobysnacks,
Are you now going to act just like in the multi touch discussion? When not only you were slaughtering OmegaRED after saying the x10 is capable of multi touch? Looks like that...
Beside that I must say, HTC phone have one of the worst camera's for smartphones. Just take a few (not one) photo's with the Incredible S and your x10 and I will assure you, that those from the x10 are much better. I'm also sure, that the focus on our x10's is much better then the one of the Incredible S.
So until anybody here has a Incredible S with some pictures, we can't compare which one is the best. But I think the x10 is better, since HTC camera's have never been good quality.
Regards,
iDarkyVM
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Once again, all I'm saying is don't jump to conclusions united you have proof/evidence...
Lots of people said the same about samsung before the sgs2 camera came out.
so it's wrong of me to say not to generalize, and to want sufficient evidence? From what I've heard and seen, it is quite good actually.
I listen to fact, not opinion...
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I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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yes there are issues with X10 now but you can wait until update, at present it has 1.6 android which is out of date buit soon sony Xperia X10 is getting 2.1
you should wait until then and if you can not wait then its better to go for motorola droid x or desire they both are good phones with good screens, multitouch ( for games etc ) and good call volumes latest android
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I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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Frankly speaking X10 is not as good as it was 2 months back........back then there were no option,now you have better alternatives.....starting with Galaxy s,Droid 2 ,Droid X and whole lot lot of bunch
P.S If you really want to stand out from the crowd get a White X10
Every phone with its weakness, X10 with low call volume(ok for me),1.6 OS, no MT(not needed for me),but the others have their issue too just like the Samsung Galaxy with the GPS signal(losing it).
So if you can live with the X10's so called ''problems'' it is a great device,if not then buy something else.
Can't say the other phone doesn't have issue either.
everything have feature that other phone doesn't. I personally don't see xperia 10 is behind on other phones because it is using a personalized android 1.6 vs 2.2 which have nothing desirable for me.
the 3 major feature you will miss are
720 recording - which i am sure you can live without it.
16 million colour - once again, my eyes can't tell the differences. that well to even brother.
flash - xperia 10 can watch flash enable media ( can watch flash movie @ tudou.com) but can't use them (as menu or web content) with skyfire.
i have no idea why that akshay insist it have low call volumne, i think his phone is busted or he got 1 of those millionth faulty one. I personally have no problem calling out or hearing people talks on my phone unless i am in an heavy noisy area that i can't even hear someone shout @ 1M away.
There are app that can hack your speaker i think if you rooted on the market.
Mind you, if you compare the latest phone you will only found them having
1. 2.1 or 2.2 soon
2. a front camera for video conference, (i live in canada, no one use smart phone with front camera here)
3. larger screen by 0.1 inch
4. 16 million color but worser camera.
5. If you didn't know 90% of those phone can't use under bright sun, but guess what, Xperia 10 CAN.
6. they are all "black", but mine is WHITE and have great design http://seinsider.com/?p=2525 If i will find a way to get one of those later and show off.
7. I like sony, i like having a sony brivia x2, sony ps3, a sony BR, a sony dog, and ...no i don't like sony laptops.
If you are like me that like the design and the white X10 when I first saw the pics of it last November, then I say, go for it. When it came out of the market last March, I said to myself, I'll wait for it to get the latest Android 2.1 and buy it. Big Mistake! I was not satisfied with the other phone that I bought, so after three months of using that phone, I got bored with it, and finally bought X10. Now, I'm using the X10 only, and only once in a while, use the other one. I can never be happier...
Thanks for all the replies. Glad to see people are happy with the phone. 1.6 is not a deal breaker for me. And yes if I buy one definitely the white one has my eye. I can careless for froyo cause I had froyo on my mytouch slide. Nothing I won't miss. I think I will head to a at&t store and play with one. Thanks for the link awesome shells. Anymore thoughts are welcomed.
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I have the White X10i, its been great for me so far! The battery life is really good, the camera is awesome and the interface is a pleasure to use!
In regards to the 2.1 update that we are all longing after so much, the only thing I would really embrace with open arms is the ability to record video in 720p!.
just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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I remember a X10 passing thru with tmo bands last year but never of it again. Thanks for the info. From the articles I have read the HSPA+ device is probably gonna be the mytouch hd. Ill pass on that. But I will do research the X10I. Thanks again.
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How much storage space is there for apps?
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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X10I has 384mb ram from one source I have read. My slide has 512mb ram and only 145mb partitioned for apps.
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He never asked about the ram.
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He never asked about the ram.
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How do u like ur x10i?
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I love mine -it's the dogs cogs.. There's 1Gb of Memory but it's use is restricted by Android 1.6.. so at the moment it's using... Download Cache - 111Mb; Data - 465Mb; RAM - 268Mb. (reading directly from Android System Info app)
Youre better off buying an unlock iphone or waits for the sony ericsson psp2 because the x10 is rather slow and no brand name app.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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Thank u for the reply. I think the difference between 1.6 and 2.0 isn't a big deal to me either. I have 2.1 now but don't Ming having 1.6 again. Now that I know there is one with tmo bands and I can still get 3g makes me want the phone more.
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I had it and it wasn't that great, should wait for the bootloader to become unlocked.
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The title is pretty self explanatory. A friend is willing to swap - one for one - my x10 for her Samsung Galaxy S. Please tell me if you think it is a good trade for me - for both long and short term. State pros and cons of the swap if possible.
Thanks a bunch!
Go for it. I say that for no reason other than that i think its a better phone
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The title is pretty self explanatory. A friend is willing to swap - one for one - my x10 for her Samsung Galaxy S. Please tell me if you think it is a good trade for me - for both long and short term. State pros and cons of the swap if possible.
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Galaxy S is way better phone I have both.
I guess samsung galaxy S2 is coming soon !!!
Well in theory its a good swap, in terms of hardware the Galaxy S is lightly better than the X10i, the GPU in the Galaxy S is unmatched but the camera is a lot better in the X10i cos soon it will have HD recording with Continuous Autofocus which is brill, plus that beautiful screen is to die for in the Galaxy S, X10i beats the Galaxy S in terms of design, cos Galaxy S jus Looks like an iPhone wannabe, im stickin to my X10i even though i got offered a HTC Desire HD. Once it gets the 2.1 Update il be fully happy.
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I guess samsung galaxy S2 is coming soon !!!
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I doubt I would be able to swap my x10 for that though...without the use of money i mean.
What about the upcoming 2.1? Is that anything to hope for and any reason to hold on to the x10?
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Well in theory its a good swap, in terms of hardware the Galaxy S is lightly better than the X10i, the GPU in the Galaxy S is unmatched but the camera is a lot better in the X10i cos soon it will have HD recording with Continuous Autofocus which is brill, plus that beautiful screen is to die for in the Galaxy S, X10i beats the Galaxy S in terms of design, cos Galaxy S jus Looks like an iPhone wannabe, im stickin to my X10i even though i got offered a HTC Desire HD. Once it gets the 2.1 Update il be fully happy.
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YOU WERE OFFERED A DESIRE HD?
If I could make that swap I wouldnt hesitate one second. Is there any chance I could get in contact with this person ? The Desire HD just has so much more to offer, why would you decline?
is samsung galaxy S2 a rumour?
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The title is pretty self explanatory. A friend is willing to swap - one for one - my x10 for her Samsung Galaxy S. Please tell me if you think it is a good trade for me - for both long and short term. State pros and cons of the swap if possible.
Thanks a bunch!
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Get a galaxy s, I have watched x10 vs galaxy s videos and most of them, galaxy wins by a mile.
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I 'd say go for it. After 5 months wait for 2.1 I would change without second thought.
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Absolutely! If you don't want to trade, I will! lol
Yeah... Agree for the SGS... I also have them both.
Only for the screen and the screen responsiveness already the SGS is way superior, not to mention the much better audio volume, audio equilizer, more memory, ability to remove the sd-card without having to remove the battery, fm radio, divx/xvid playback... and so much more...
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He must have a reason to swap.Maybe not happy with it?
if you don't mind to get GPS issues and lag within the core chip of the galaxy S go for it, the Amoled display is brighter and the photo camera is better, also there is no flashlight on the samsung
also, the amoled consumes more battery displaying the white color, keep that in mind.
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He must have a reason to swap.Maybe not happy with it?
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no that is not the case. She is not aware of the power of android and wants to sell it along with her blackberry to buy an Iphone 4. An ignorant decision according to me and probably many of you, but for the common phone user who dont quite know how to use android it looks appealing. Therefore she accepted a swap because she is selling it either way.
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if you don't mind to get GPS issues and lag within the core chip of the galaxy S go for it, the Amoled display is brighter and the photo camera is better, also there is no flashlight on the samsung
also, the amoled consumes more battery displaying the white color, keep that in mind.
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i did some reading, and isnt there a lagfix or something to solve the lag problem? or is that incorrect?
I loved my x10 but ended up trading it for a HTC desire nd its the best phone I've had so far I've also had the galaxy s which is also a good phone I just think the build quality is tacky
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If that's the case, you can try...but just wait for the update if you can...
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no that is not the case. She is not aware of the power of android and wants to sell it along with her blackberry to buy an Iphone 4. An ignorant decision according to me and probably many of you, but for the common phone user who dont quite know how to use android it looks appealing. Therefore she accepted a swap because she is selling it either way.
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My Samsung Captivate is my first android phone and I've never handled an x10, so I can't make a direct comparison. But I'm very pleased with it and I doubt you would be disappointed. It is ridiculously simple to mod. I had mine rooted & Froyo'd the same day I got it. The xda SGS forums are *very* active, so if you are interested in trying different hacks/ROMs, the SGS is a good choice
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if you don't mind to get GPS issues and lag within the core chip of the galaxy S go for it, the Amoled display is brighter and the photo camera is better, also there is no flashlight on the samsung
also, the amoled consumes more battery displaying the white color, keep that in mind.
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My phone was slow getting a sat lock (sometimes >20 secs) while it had Eclair, but now it consistently gets a lock within 5 seconds. Lag is noticeable only when there are multiple apps still running in background. This is easily remedied by killing unneeded apps. If you think it's still laggy, you can install One Click Lag Fix (OCLF) and lag disappears automagically
Yes, the screen consumes juice to show colors & white, but it uses *no* battery to show black. That is also why the contrast is awesome (black is black, not dark grey)
My phone's camera isn't the best and there's no LED flash, but it's good enough for quick shots of everyday stuff
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No.
The only thing I like about the Galaxy S is the screen, it really is better than the X10's. That's about it though -- I wouldn't be wanting to hold that - as someone already mentioned - horribly tacky looking phone. It's embarassing. Samsung's TouchWiz UI is comical. Seemingly they targeted the 8-12 year old crowd and by the looks of it, they've succeeded. The X10's UI is FAR more profesional looking.
The X10's build quality and looks are to die for, I wouldn't even dream about swapping it for anything else. I've also demonstrated the X10 to many inquisitive people, definitely much more than when I had the iPhone previously. Currently it can be modded to a decent level as you can see from the Homescreen screenshots thread -- and with 2.1 coming, I'm confident it'll address few other shortcomings the X10 initially had when it launched. Personally I don't care about 16 million colors, it doesn't seem to hinder my media experience one bit.
Ultimately, it's your choice -- all the best
I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
Obviously every phone is different so some ones would reboot and some wouldn't. Mine doesn't everything works for me perfectly, the only thing thats bugging me is that development isnt doing too good, in not complaining cause I know it will come eventually cause the phone hasn't been out that long. I would go for tho phone 100% I cant find anything wrong with it so and ice had it for over a week now
Hope this helps u
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Mine is up for 550 hours without reboot.
It speaks for itself.
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
Well, you are @ arc forum. most people like their phone per details they were looking for. On the other hand, you have to sort out your important facts which you are expecting from your next phone(which varies from one person to another).
Problems you have listed don't appear for everyone, whether I have been lucky with phone or not, I have never encountered issues like that with any of my SE phones.
Your best bet is to go to store and compare list of phones that you are interested side by side and see what makes you happy. but as far as me being an arc owner, I should say that satisfies my needs and I have not yet had any issue with it as everything is solid and moving forward.
I have to say, this phone is exactly what everyone requested from SE to make. Update hardware, software + get rid of all the SCAPES(which is sort of optional now and not integrated anymore) I just love this + possibility to have unlocked bootloader on certain models. What else can you ask?
just my 7 cents
im_iceman said:
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
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And huge battery drain from stock camera app.
For 720p recording you can give up image stabilization feature for well-synced audio. For camera you have yo use 3rd party camera app like vignette.
I think this says it all - the Arc is the best single-core handset in the world.
That isn't to say that the Arc is without it's foibles; there are a few things could be better and it's a shame it lacks certain features like a front-facing camera or NFC but the pros outweigh the cons.
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
Im also very interested in this i own a x10 and have some questions.im thinkin bout it but just dont think is worth getting . The x10 is unbrickable. Its getting custom kernels that are undoin SE's crap. Plus arc doesnt have any custom roms yet And i like the size and desighn of my x10 . And tthe x10 has a pretty strong xda community
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
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Congrats on being the owner of W995. To me, that's the best non-smartphone without touchscreen ever made
You will definitely be very very happy with Arc. There could be something better depending on your needs but you can't go wrong with Arc and I think Arc is currently the best looking phone for my taste and I think it almost feels as good as W995 ;-)
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It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
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Why? Because its dual core? That means absolutely nothing! Dual core is not even needed these days. Galaxy S was an over hype phone imo, ditched it in about a week to get back my X10, and the Galaxy S2 will be the continuation of Samsungs over hyped nonsense.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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I simply stated the galaxy s didnt do a damn thing better or faster than what the x10 already did. Regardless of its specs vs the X10....it was over hyped.
*edit* sorry, the galaxy s video recording destroys the X10.
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Yes, my mistake - you claimed they were basically equal which is still extremely questionable.
I'm not a Samsung person, I think TouchWiz is a horrific, iPhone-y, designed for and by 5-year-olds joke of a UI. And I think the Galaxy S is a cheap plastic PoS handset.
But it blows the X10 out the water every single day of the week - better screen, better CPU, more RAM, much more internal memory, better stills and video camera in my experience, better software support/upgrades (which is saying something given how poor Samsung are at that).
The Galaxy S2 is simply the best handset in the world right now, not only on paper but every review/hands-on with it says the same thing.
It's not just the dual-core CPU, though as time goes on that will definitely be a huge advantage over the likes of the Arc; double the RAM, a better screen (ok, a little less clear-cut than the difference between the Galaxy S and the X10 but it probably still edges it based on little things like viewing angles), significantly more internal memory, larger battery, better video camera - it's even thinner than the Arc!
So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
I'm not saying the Arc is a bad phone, it has genuinely wowed me and I really didn't expect it to but there's no point kidding ourselves that it's living on borrowed time before it's left behind.
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So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
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Well, it's an advantage, but I'm a bit conservative when it comes to say huge advantage. Benchmark is great; But, it's an intensive number-crunching process most of the time. IMO, that deviates what I (and probably most of the users) use my smartphone for. I don't use my smartphones to calculate Pi, audio/video editing, etc.
I think dual-core will be shafted by quad-core even before the mass-adoption of the technology by the app developers.
I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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That's the one good thing Samsung have done with TouchWiz (apparently).
Hi
I shall make an amendment to the agreement with my mobile op. and I am wondering whether SE Xperia Arc is a good choice. I have always use Nokia phones and I thought to buy Nokia N8, but I when I saw Arc I've changed my mind. Arc design and mutlimedia possibilities are great, but when I read about battery draining, lags, vid/audio sync problems I am not happy about it.
I am wondering if SE will fix this problem soon? Are these problems only software or maybe it is hardware failure? Do you think it will be repaired soon? When the next software update is expected?
Please help me to make a good choice.
Thanks a lot
hi.. battery drain is seemingly caused by a couple of software issues.. camera and google maps.. both of which should be fixed/ fixable.
lags - not seen many/any reports of lag.
video/audio sync - short term fix is either to use fwvga or try switching image stabilisation off. long term SE should be fixing that.
next update from SE expected in the next couple of months..
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Thanks
I have only a liitle knowledge of Andoid system so tell me If I root my phone is it possible to remove google maps and camera soft? Will it help? Or maybe this is possible without rooting the phone?
Im planning to get a new phone, the infuse or g2x which one should i pick...i still love my x10 (
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G2x over the infuse definetly. The dual core processor is awesome and its fast, awesome screen, and one of the best out there
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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LOL
wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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Now here is someone who knows what he's talking about....
You'd be stupid to buy an arc right now imo.
SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
PlayGunsta said:
The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
Impresive responses, thank you guys!
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fiscidtox said:
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wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
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Ever heard of advise?
fiscidtox said:
I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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1 second faster?? lol
Where are you getting these numbers?
Also, 1 second of speed for a cpu makes a hell of a difference, one second of lag vs. one second of no lag.
It is 2-3 times more powerful and has at least double the quadrant score and linpack.
The cpu/gpu is a current gen vs. an outdated one.
You can think whatever you want, but electronics is my job/field.
The sgs2 is far more advanced than the arc.
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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precisely...
the dual core chips (MSM8660/Terga2) were already available they should have atleast kept the "Flagship" phones i.e. the Arc & Play with latest hardware and kept the rest on single core (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
BTW i already have the Arc, its a beautiful device but not really that powerful...
still like my X10 with all the dev thats going around... its challenging
I have ordered a S2 and will recive ut in about 2weeks. It. Will be my first phone that is not a sony Ericsson.
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The SGS2 has definetely some lagg. But not as much as on arc. Fanboys My next phone will be a quadcore from HTC If it comes haha!
I mean... Given its age, its fairly responsive, the screen is big, albeit not 16m colors, the cam is very good, its been getting great signal for both voice and 3G, the battery life has been decent, and the media server app works flawlessly with my ps3...
I dont get it. Whats to hate? Its the cheapest big screen Android phone out there. Maybe I just like it because its holding me over until next gen hardware, or the next iteration of iPhone.
Discuss.
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I agree, it's a great phone, especially after the 2.3 update. Is it the best? No. But it is very good for its age and it has been aging like a fine wine, just getting better and better.
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I agree, it's a great phone, especially after the 2.3 update. Is it the best? No. But it is very good for its age and it has been aging like a fine wine, just getting better and better.
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Haha, that's one way to look at it.
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The 2.3 update was I little flawed until Z brought out all the fixes. Now there is no need for an arc unless you want hdmi. X10i is still great. If mine broke today id buy another 1 since it seems to be the best android you can buy for the money
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Wait til you see the new handsets You might throw your X10 away right away Some nice features incoming...
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The 2.3 update was I little flawed until Z brought out all the fixes. Now there is no need for an arc unless you want hdmi. X10i is still great. If mine broke today id buy another 1 since it seems to be the best android you can buy for the money
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The display is not that great.. but the biggest(and one of the few) problems with the X10 is the crappy digitizer that it has.. one of the worst I've used
Other than that its great
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The display is not that great.. but the biggest(and one of the few) problems with the X10 is the crappy digitizer that it has.. one of the worst I've used
Other than that its great
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What is so crappy on the digitizer? Works fine here, with fps uncap almost iPhone like finger tracking.
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I mean... Given its age, its fairly responsive, the screen is big, albeit not 16m colors, the cam is very good, its been getting great signal for both voice and 3G, the battery life has been decent, and the media server app works flawlessly with my ps3...
I dont get it. Whats to hate? Its the cheapest big screen Android phone out there. Maybe I just like it because its holding me over until next gen hardware, or the next iteration of iPhone.
Discuss.
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i completly agree man.some people gonna whine anyway.even if you gave them quadcore 5000CPU with aderno290 they are gonna whine like kids
Most consumer electronics have their 'make or break' window of opportunity during their launch period. That's when the marketing groups of the various companies start their advertising push and review units are sent out. If the reviews aren't good, people simply won't care about the product. Then as time goes on, no amount of additional advertising will prevent it from being forgotten about.
The X10 is a decent little smart phone. When it came out, it had some very competitive top-of-the-line features (1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 4" screen, good quality camera hardware, etc.). SE also touted its own UI and its custom applications (Timescape and Mediascape). Unfortunately, it was developed when Android 1.6 was around, and by the time it was released the competition was already moving forward with 2.1. The X10 simply could not compete when its software heart was a generation behind.
So most of the reviews tended to view the X10 as an average or mediocre smart phone. And with that, people didn't care about it.
But for those of us who thought the X10 had potential, I think we've all been rewarded for our faith. It's gone from a sluggish Android 1.6 device to a late but decent 2.1 workhorse and now to a winning 2.3 performer. Sony Ericsson listened to its customer base, and even though there were times it seemed like they would abandon the X10 and simply think of it as a 'learning experience,' they did the right thing and gave it just enough support to allow its former flagship to be sent off on a high note.
I bought my AT&T-branded X10a in the United States a few months after my girlfriend got the Sprint-branded HTC EVO 4G (HTC Supersonic elsewhere in the world). At the time, the EVO 4G got rave reviews and was considered by critics to be one of the very best. My X10 seemed to pale in comparison especially in performance. But with each SE update for the X10, things improved. Now with Android 2.3, the stock generic X10 build actually outperforms the latest stock Sprint-released HTC 2.3 update for the EVO 4G. For example, in Quadrant (if you care about such benchmarks) the X10 now consistently scores around the 1200 mark. Stock EVO 4Gs used to get scores like that when it was launched and when it ran 2.2 Froyo. But lately I've been reading a lot (and even tested my girlfriend's EVO to confirm) that the HTC 2.3 update has caused drops in benchmark performance where scores in the 900 to 1000 range are not uncommon.
The EVO 4G also has a 1GHz CPU, the Andreno 200 GPU, and a 8MP rear camera. I used to be jealous of its performance when I compared it to my X10. But now - with the exception of the EVO's 4G capabilities and front-facing camera - I think the X10 is better. We may not get multi-touch, or 16-million colors, or no FPS cap, but with our stock build, SE has given us useful features such as fully working and non-carrier-locked USB tethering and WiFi hotspot, streamlined custom user interface, and minimal bloatware. The phone may not be perfect, but given what the X10 is SE has, in essence, transformed the phone from an awkward ugly duckling to a capable graceful swan.
I look forward to using my X10 for quite a long time to come.
I must say that i have been really disappointed with my x10 since i bought it 15 months ago... The thing is that the phone has potential but SE fails to incorporate that in the generic rom (specifically fps uncap). Im currently using wolfbreak which makes the phone bearable and even enjoyable. My issue is that you have to "fix" the phone yourself. With the SE generic rom this phone is a piece of junk.
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What is so crappy on the digitizer? Works fine here, with fps uncap almost iPhone like finger tracking.
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Nope.. wrong...
1. It gets confused with finger placement for no reason what so ever.
When moving from a dual to single touch.
2. The dual touch cross axis bug.
Why did the chicken cross the axis? to get to the inverted side.
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Most consumer electronics have their 'make or break' window of opportunity during their launch period. That's when the marketing groups of the various companies start their advertising push and review units are sent out. If the reviews aren't good, people simply won't care about the product. Then as time goes on, no amount of additional advertising will prevent it from being forgotten about.
The X10 is a decent little smart phone. When it came out, it had some very competitive top-of-the-line features (1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 4" screen, good quality camera hardware, etc.). SE also touted its own UI and its custom applications (Timescape and Mediascape). Unfortunately, it was developed when Android 1.6 was around, and by the time it was released the competition was already moving forward with 2.1. The X10 simply could not compete when its software heart was a generation behind.
So most of the reviews tended to view the X10 as an average or mediocre smart phone. And with that, people didn't care about it.
But for those of us who thought the X10 had potential, I think we've all been rewarded for our faith. It's gone from a sluggish Android 1.6 device to a late but decent 2.1 workhorse and now to a winning 2.3 performer. Sony Ericsson listened to its customer base, and even though there were times it seemed like they would abandon the X10 and simply think of it as a 'learning experience,' they did the right thing and gave it just enough support to allow its former flagship to be sent off on a high note.
I bought my AT&T-branded X10a in the United States a few months after my girlfriend got the Sprint-branded HTC EVO 4G (HTC Supersonic elsewhere in the world). At the time, the EVO 4G got rave reviews and was considered by critics to be one of the very best. My X10 seemed to pale in comparison especially in performance. But with each SE update for the X10, things improved. Now with Android 2.3, the stock generic X10 build actually outperforms the latest stock Sprint-released HTC 2.3 update for the EVO 4G. For example, in Quadrant (if you care about such benchmarks) the X10 now consistently scores around the 1200 mark. Stock EVO 4Gs used to get scores like that when it was launched and when it ran 2.2 Froyo. But lately I've been reading a lot (and even tested my girlfriend's EVO to confirm) that the HTC 2.3 update has caused drops in benchmark performance where scores in the 900 to 1000 range are not uncommon.
The EVO 4G also has a 1GHz CPU, the Andreno 200 GPU, and a 8MP rear camera. I used to be jealous of its performance when I compared it to my X10. But now - with the exception of the EVO's 4G capabilities and front-facing camera - I think the X10 is better. We may not get multi-touch, or 16-million colors, or no FPS cap, but with our stock build, SE has given us useful features such as fully working and non-carrier-locked USB tethering and WiFi hotspot, streamlined custom user interface, and minimal bloatware. The phone may not be perfect, but given what the X10 is SE has, in essence, transformed the phone from an awkward ugly duckling to a capable graceful swan.
I look forward to using my X10 for quite a long time to come.
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Exactly i agree. The hardware/software and specially the design can compete most of the other smart phones out there, including stupid iphone4s. So ppl what is there to complain so much. With the GB update and all the tweaks around with custom ROMs its a better device than it was. Its far more better i should say. Lets take the maximum of this little baby b4 we move on to another device. So lets show the x10 some luv shall we
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Exactly i agree. The hardware/software and specially the design can compete most of the other smart phones out there, including stupid iphone4s. So ppl what is there to complain so much. With the GB update and all the tweaks around with custom ROMs its a better device than it was. Its far more better i should say. Lets take the maximum of this little baby b4 we move on to another device. So lets show the x10 some luv shall we
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My question is why the company that made the device does not do that.
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Nope.. wrong...
1. It gets confused with finger placement for no reason what so ever.
When moving from a dual to single touch.
2. The dual touch cross axis bug.
Why did the chicken cross the axis? to get to the inverted side.
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Number two also an issue on the Desire!
Yum, even though I'm not using custom ROM but I find this phone is very good. That's all.
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My question is why the company that made the device does not do that.
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Exactly! The software side of SE is utter junk. Anyone that says anything else has no credibility when it comes to HCI. Myself having this as my major in grad school cry blood when i lay my hands on an x10 with the stock rom. Its actually sad that something being coded in a basement at home (god bless all these talented individuals) can outperform that of a multinational company.
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It's alright..
There are things I like about it, but it has one of the smallest development sections I've seen.
I wish I had a htc hd2 actually, the dev section for that is amazing
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Exactly! The software side of SE is utter junk. Anyone that says anything else has no credibility when it comes to HCI. Myself having this as my major in grad school cry blood when i lay my hands on an x10 with the stock rom. Its actually sad that something being coded in a basement at home (god bless all these talented individuals) can outperform that of a multinational company.
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NON of the so called basement roms has the stability of stock rom! I've tried PLENTY of costume builds, z's kernel, and the only 2 things i actually found usefull in the long run was fps uncap and JIT back on 2.1.. Sure many homebews may be snappier but they all suffer from fc's and memory bogging forcing you to reboot your phone every now and then to keep it snappy.. I NEVER had to reboot a stockrom.. I clean the junk out of app-wise and use fps uncap, thats it. And thats what works best.
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It's alright..
There are things I like about it, but it has one of the smallest development sections I've seen.
I wish I had a htc hd2 actually, the dev section for that is amazing
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That phone seems to be able to handle any OS your throw on it and do it well lol. Its a true super phone lol.
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I really like this phone. Its not the best out there but for price its great. Probably the thing I like most is just how easy the Modding side is compared to Samsung galaxy's or HTC phones. My dad has a dhd and honestly, I prefer the x10. It just feels better to me
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