http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4oP1IkOzC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgRiMgUBD40
So thoughts here? I think the Arc holds its own against this beast and looks a billion dollars beside that piece of slab.
Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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I found it the other way around.. SGS II display is a bit dark, but maybe that's all the video camera's fault too.
Yeah I thought the GS2 looked very blue when they were both displaying a white background.
Still glad I bought an Arc!
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Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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No it look like that on the camera. i also had that when making a movie of the screen between lcd and amoled. Amoled looked always better but in reality they where the same. and sometime the arc screen was better (playing movie).
so don't be mislead with what you see on camera
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Wow the Arc's display looks quite terrible beside the GS2
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I had both phones and the main reason I stayed with Arc is because of display. GS2 colors are way-off from reality. Darks look very dark. For example, my contacts photo looked terrible when they had shadows on their face while on Arc, they looked like they looked on my PC LCD Monitor.
Arc color with Bravia Engine looks very natural where SG2 looks very artificial. I like Arc's display the most.
speed aside, arc wins over sgs2 hands down and the stock home launcher is actually the prettiest-looking among other manufacturer IMO
The speed difference is NOTHING for real usage.
In reverse Samsung looks like cheap **** and Arc looks like a masterpiece.
It's design is real. Samsung is just disgusting. The same with UI.
(My opinions).
And one very important thing:
Arc may be tad slower sometimes but do you see HOW MUCH LAG SGSII has EACH time coming back to homescreen?! Outrageous considering it's DOUBLE POWER.
And besides that SGSII has some serious flaws like NO multiple email delete (!!!).
Those things are "kindly" omitted BTW in Eldars review proving again that he's manipulator and cheater.
C'mon guys. Double core will be something next year. Now it's just a gimmick.
OK, go look at 1st video:
- at 6:20 :
See how well-lit the left wall and the ground on SE Arc, while GS II display really dark color
- at 6:29 :
The surrounding around 2 pillars are still well-lit on SE arc, not so much in GS II
- Rotating planet at 6:35:
SE arc shows a nice blue space on the background, while in SGS II, it's darker. You can also see the total-roundness of the orange planet, while in SGS II you don't see it.
From the video, that's what I noticed in display.
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Although at 6:44, the rotating DNA animation, the blue displayed in Arc is a bit more cyan-ish, while in SGS II display a deep blue. Which one is the correct one? idk.
Im still happy with the arc i dont give a crap!
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Im really happy with my arc to! I am really glad I didnt wait for SGSII as I planned.
The reviewer has a real hate on for the Arc, don't trust what he says...
In his Nexus S vs Arc he claimed the Nexus S as the winner, and every other phone he put against the Arc he claimed the Arc as the loser. Don't believe me? Check out his website in the video discription.
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The reviewer has a real hate on for the Arc, don't trust what he says...
In his Nexus S vs Arc he claimed the Nexus S as the winner, and every other phone he put against the Arc he claimed the Arc as the loser. Don't believe me? Check out his website in the video discription.
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I agree with you on this. This guy has a real hang up with SE whatever his issue is. My missus has the nexus s and it doesnt come near imo
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gunstar3035 said:
The reviewer has a real hate on for the Arc, don't trust what he says...
In his Nexus S vs Arc he claimed the Nexus S as the winner, and every other phone he put against the Arc he claimed the Arc as the loser. Don't believe me? Check out his website in the video discription.
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You talk about Eldar?
arc just beats the crap out of galaxy s2.. sony is sony.. sony means style, sony means design.. no one can reach up to it.. s2 is nothing but a big brick..
arc nails in terms of design and style.. performence is just behind a fraction of seconds.. who cares about that.. if that little fraction of second is what the advantage of a dual core device.. then **** it..
i still have an x10.. and after using it.. all other phones just look crap.. styleless.. if thats a word..lol
As this is a duplicate of this thread....
Discussion can be continued over there.....
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The Arc looks like a fantastic all around phone in that it has great clear/loud sound/with mega bass. I wonder if this phone is using the Wolfson chip.
Takes great pictures in low light/video is smooth/Hdmi mirroring. Very smooth UI and great colors on the screen.
It has a single core Qualcomm Scorpion MSM8255 processor. I realize its not a Dual Core phone but since they are just entering the market I would prefer to go with a single core 2nd generation phone.
I was thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy S II but Samsung is still doing updates on the first Galaxy S and I don't trust them re updates.
Sony has stated that they did not handle updates for the X10 very well but promise to do a lot better with updates in regards to the Arc,I believe them.
Furthermore bigger isn;t always better.(Dual Core Vs Single Core)
In the end I want a phone that has clarity/volume in regards to phone calls/Great Camera/Good Video/can play games on it.
Would love to hear your opinions on the Arc Pro/Con.
how could you believe a thief when he tells you he won't steal anything anymore...
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
SEFanX10i said:
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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apparently this is not the case. The hard lockdown on devices in the past has made it hard even for SE to upgrade the phones. The new phones are said to have a more open bootloader to make it easier to update
+1 for the Neo (how could SE have stuffed up and not given their flagship model a front facing camera.. but given the cheaper model the same fancy new screen and camera chip and also given it a Front camera!) are they really that stupid?
I'm going buy an HTC or Samsung next..and if not them a motorola.. after those choices.. I might consider a Neo
Kiwi
And so here I am on a brand new Arc. Had it for a day or so and must say it's been very smooth so far. My latest phone was an X10i so this is not terribly different...
Anyway, first impressions are very good. Great screen. Native Exchange integration is perfect (except I can't sort contacts by other than first name, believe this is an Android quirk). WiFi tethering was very smooth. DLNA was hitch-free. In-call sound quality is very good, I'd say better than the other Xperias I've had (apparently it has a little mic that takes up background noice to cancel it out, though I think I'll need to fly with a head-set to experience this properly). Why they've switched the "menu" and "back" buttons around I can't understand for the love of me, but maybe there's a reason...
Overall, with my short experience it's been great, so far. Certainly a phone I would recommend to any non-X10 user and probably to those that have X10s, as well.
Cheers for now/M
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what a lucky person!!! i love the phone so much. you must be very close to SE. so can you please advise when it will be released. it think april is too late to wait. im keen to have the phone right away.
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A video review from a guy at ESATO forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIiD5he1S8
My thoughts...very nice design, good screen and very good camera, the bad? it lags too much.
oh wow, I just actually clicked on the video LOL I know that person personally since he's in Thailand. Like both him/I said, wait for the final firmware. That unit he has is still a very early prototype, no where near the final. Some of the hardware isn't even implemented yet, you can tell which . Cheers
joplin48 said:
I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
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look,when you talking about you don't trust sgs which is only 3 months younger than x10 and got 2.2 update almost the same time as x10 got 2.1, and knowing that SE announced x10 would never receive 2.2 but samsung never claim they won't provide further version, but then you said you trust in SE?
i don't think you need any oppinion at all.
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Got to play the arc, neo and play last night, and I also saw the arc at CES. Its certainly improved since then, and huggee fast first time round.
One thing I noticed is that the widget overview is now smooth, no lag like before.
As for neo vs arc, there are lots of similarities, but when you pick the phones up the arc feels better, special somehow. The neo feels normal... Also the display is better on the arc.
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Does arc support 3g video call?
GN Multimedia - X10i
Nope. No front-view camera.
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Nope. No front-view camera.
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Thanks. So sad... really 3g video call feature.
GN Multimedia - X10i
Neo vs Arc..... I'll say Arc for the design, never used front cameras and don't see a reason to use it
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i am really happy eith it, is fast and has one of the most important thnigs to me... design, the galaxy brand look like crap and are based on iphone design
There are Differences on Arc and Neo not just the Looks
Arc
>Clear Black Panel(No Air Gap, Great Sunlight Legibility, 20% more Brighter than Neo)
>Lightweight(117g) vs (126g)
>Slim Arc Body(8.7mm~10.5mm) vs (13mm)
>Screen Size 4.2" vs 3.7"
Neo
>Front Facing Camera
>Better Hardware Positions(Camera Sensor, Shutter Key)
Hey guys,
I am with Rogers, and will be buying my phone cash for the full price. Because of this I am really trying to figure out what phone would be best to purchase because I don't want to make an $800 mistake.
I have had 2 Android phones in the past, an Xperia x10 and a Samsung Captivate.
I am basically torn between the Xperia Arc, and the Nexus S. I am also considering by a long shot the White iphone 4, though I am absolutely bored to tears with iOS and am not really interested...I guess call it the fall back device if I can't make up my mind between the Arc and Nexus S.
Anyways, if you guys have any opinions on either I would really like some help. I have been trying to figure it out, watching hours and hours of reviews and reading written reviews. But no one talks about the things I would like to know like how much bigger the screen is on the Arc compared to the Nexus S for example, or is it hard to lock the Arc with its little power button? Anyways any help is very much welcome.
I should also note I am not planning to root the phone and am keeping everything stock.
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I should also note I am not planning to root the phone and am keeping everything stock.
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Dude are you serious??! The Arc blows the nexus S all the way.
The Arc looks 100% more stylish and better looking, thinner, bigger screen and fits better in your pocket.
The Arc's camera is mind blowing, the screen is gorgeous leave aside how much fast and smooth the phone really functions & operates.
The majority of Arc users are happy and satisfied. This is no X10, this phones is miles ahead. So, if you loved your X10, then I'm warning you that you may be obsessed with the Arc
There is a reason behind choosing the Arc to be the #1 for 2011 :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/04/25/techradar-crowns-xperia-arc-best-mobile-in-world-today/
Hope this helps a little
I've owned a lot of phones (not the Captivate though) and I find the Arc the pick of the lot (althugh the original HTC Desire comes close).
Overall, even though the screen is 4.2", the phone is extremely compact. It is a bit taller than the Nexus S, but due to it's thinness feels the same size as the Nexus S. The physical buttons are a major advantage (IMHO) and there's no issues with the small power button. The screen is pretty good (probably not as good as the AMOLEDs) and tends to look a bit washed out when viewing from certain angles, but it is not an issue for me. Also, SE's UI is quite minimalistic and actually enhances the Android experience.
Why don't you pick up an Arc and play with it? You have 15 days (and 30 mins of talktime) to try it? If you don't like it, you can return it and pick up the Captivate.
Thanks guys so much for the input.
I think the thing I am worrying about with the Arc is the lack of a front facing camera, but I am loving the screen size and rear camera.
With the nexus S I like the thought of pure and quick updates, but the lack of 720p recording and build quality is concerning me...
Oh and lets just forget I mentioned iphone 4, I dont want another iphone ever again : /
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Thanks guys so much for the input.
I think the thing I am worrying about with the Arc is the lack of a front facing camera, but I am loving the screen size and rear camera.
With the nexus S I like the thought of pure and quick updates, but the lack of 720p recording and build quality is concerning me...
Oh and lets just forget I mentioned iphone 4, I dont want another iphone ever again : /
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The moment you hold the Arc in your hands, you'll totally forget about the front facing camera! The phone is really that good, just go and play with it for a while and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
The nexus S has a terrible camera, no external storage, fugly+ugly looks and my main concern is that in case you need support with the phone it won't be easy to get access to it like in case you get the iphone or the Arc.
Thinking too much will just drive you nuts! I've been there trust me. If I were you, I would eliminate the Nexus S and go straight for the Arc! Unless you still have some love for the iphone
Ur call pal! But one thing I know for sure, I still haven't ran across one Arc owner that did regret his purchase.
Take a look at some of the pics that I took with the Xperia Neo, and I can assure you that the Arc is in the same level since I own both of them now :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059189
Basharca said:
There is a reason behind choosing the Arc to be the #1 for 2011 :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/04/25/techradar-crowns-xperia-arc-best-mobile-in-world-today/
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You might want to look again.
It was number one for about a week, not number one for 2011
I used a Nexus S for a few weeks prior to getting my Arc.
No question, Arc all the way.
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The moment you hold the Arc in your hands, you'll totally forget about the front facing camera! The phone is really that good, just go and play with it for a while and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
The nexus S has a terrible camera, no external storage, fugly+ugly looks and my main concern is that in case you need support with the phone it won't be easy to get access to it like in case you get the iphone or the Arc.
Thinking too much will just drive you nuts! I've been there trust me. If I were you, I would eliminate the Nexus S and go straight for the Arc! Unless you still have some love for the iphone
Ur call pal! But one thing I know for sure, I still haven't ran across one Arc owner that did regret his purchase.
Take a look at some of the pics that I took with the Xperia Neo, and I can assure you that the Arc is in the same level since I own both of them now :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059189
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Thanks man, I will check out the pics too. I am honestly leaning towards the Arc right now. It looks like it is everything the x10 should have been, and even more.
3 questions about the Arc: How is texting/Screen sensitivity? and How do you find locking the device? Does the UI feel zippy?
Thanks again guys, your the best!
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I am basically torn between the Xperia Arc, and the Nexus S.
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Get Nexus S IF
1. it's design appeals to you more than Arc.
2. if you don't care about LED Notification.
3. Camera and HD video quality are not of higher importance.
4. screen brightness in day light doesn't have to be great.
5. having the latest greatest official update from Google is important.
6. front facing camera is a must. Also remember the Android 2.3.4 update has GoogleTalk that supports video chat.
For me, what I would want but will miss on my Arc is item 6.
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Thanks man, I will check out the pics too. I am honestly leaning towards the Arc right now. It looks like it is everything the x10 should have been, and even more.
3 questions about the Arc: How is texting/Screen sensitivity? and How do you find locking the device? Does the UI feel zippy?
Thanks again guys, your the best!
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You shouldn't lean towards the Arc, you should go and buy it right away
Texting/screen sensitivity is perfect! I can claim confidently that Sony aced it this time. I know they had it in them but they were acting like douche bags before hehe, but this time they did a great job.
The UI is not zippy! Sorry, it's super duper zippy
The only things that lags a little is timescape and also when loading the pics from the new widget that sony created. However, I only noticed this when I switch the phone off and restart it again.
Other than that it works flawlessly, this may be the fastest android phone you could get, I seriously mean it.
And ya no need to root it to install some lagfix if you know what I mean hehe
Get the Arc. I've owned several Nexus S and it's fine, but not exceptional. The Arc is a head turner and it does everything well. I like the wall to wall screen with no borders. I write about these things, so I use them all, and of all the Android phones, the one I would take for myself as my personal phone is the Arc.
I would say definitely that the arc is miles ahead of the nexus S.
The only conceivable reason to buy the nexus over the arc is if you absolutely have to have the latest version of android ASAP. Apart from that the nexus is a deeply, deeply average phone.
There are a couple of phones out there that i can see some people choosing over the arc (though personally i'd still go with the arc) but the nexus aint one of them.
The Nexus S is a Galaxy S running 2.3. That makes it a very good phone. It has a great display and it beats the Arc in most speed tests. My personal preference is still the Arc. I think that the Nexus S is a good choice regardless of the enthusiasm for the Arc in this thread. The Nexus S is pure Android and there's not a lot wrong with that. The Arc is sexy and it does everything well. Both phones work for me.
If I had to choose between the Xperia Arc and the Nexus S (or any 2 phones in general for that matter), what I'd do is go to a store and compare the devices side-by-side.
Three things where the Nexus S is better than the Xperia Arc are:
better viewing angles on the display
1GB apps storage on Nexus S vs. ~320-350MB on Xperia Arc
Nexus S has hardware Search button; Xperia Arc doesn't
NFC [this may become really big really soon]
Front-facing camera
The Xperia Arc advantages over Nexus S:
much better camera [8.2MP vs. 5MP]
HDMI port
720p video recording
slightly higher screen resolution [854×480 vs. 800×480]
possibility for PlayStation-certification because internals are very similar to Xperia Play [not sure though]
Having said that, I own both devices. Regarding apps storage, I am using ~270MB on both, and that is growing very very slowly, so it is not a concern for me [yet!].
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc
SGS II has:
faster processors
A LOT BIGGER rom space (ROM space of arc is just unacceptably small)
more RAM
arguably better screen
thinner & lighter
I've had both but sold my Arc.
SGS2 is much faster and smoother in day to day use.
Lack of Ram seems to cripple Arc a little.
Camera is at least as good on SGS but video recorder is much better than Arc.
Codec support on music and videos ostensibly once again better on SGS2.
Screen quality is much more subjective - i actually thought the Arc screen was really good.
Arc has the better design although it feels a bit long and thin compared to the SGS2. The SGS2 feels like it has a much bigger screen?
Build quality wasn't great on my Arc - felt even more plasticky than the Samsung and the battery panel creaked all the time on the Arc. SGS2 feels much more sold.
Hope that helps
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gupta.anurag08 said:
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc
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It's kind of amazing as to how can you buy say Arc,Desire S & all those single core superphones & than try to compare them with Atrix/Optimus 2x/SGS 2.
All these phones Arc/Desire S{single core is what i meant} are more than a very capable smartphones,can do most of the daily work.
But put them next to any of the dual cores & differences are there.
Why have you gone for Arc when SGS 2 launch was so near?
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SGS II has:
faster processors
A LOT BIGGER rom space (ROM space of arc is just unacceptably small)
more RAM
arguably better screen
thinner & lighter
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you are right except 1 point and that is the screen. The colors of the ARC is more realistic and the screen is the best screen for in direct sunlight. No other screen comes close to it.
android_master said:
It's kind of amazing as to how can you buy say Arc,Desire S & all those single core superphones & than try to compare them with Atrix/Optimus 2x/SGS 2.
All these phones Arc/Desire S{single core is what i meant} are more than a very capable smartphones,can do most of the daily work.
But put them next to any of the dual cores & differences are there.
Why have you gone for Arc when SGS 2 launch was so near?
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Dual core is not everything, before the SGS2 comes out. Those dual cores like the LG and Atrix does not prove to be faster. Actually the LG pretty sucks for a dual core phone. Single core phone is faster then the LG and that says alot.
More ram on S2, if you do a lot of browsing on the device like me, you will come to appreciate the extra ram, something that used to piss me right off about my S1!
hung77 said:
you are right except 1 point and that is the screen. The colors of the ARC is more realistic and the screen is the best screen for in direct sunlight. No other screen comes close to it.
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Display
Sony Ericsson's Xperia Arc comes packing a dazzling 4.2-inch scratch-resistant LED-backlit LCD display, capable of excellent colour reproduction, which is hugely responsive. When you add to that mix Sony's Bravia Mobile engine you end up with a truly noteworthy screen, capable of rivalling, or even surpassing, virtually anything on the market – everything, that is, apart from the Samsung Galaxy S II.
The Galaxy S II brings the latest in a long line of amazing Samsung screens to market, in the form of a cutting-edge 4.3-inch Super AMOLED display, which not only renders colours faithfully, and offers unsurpassed sunlight legibility, but sucks up about 1/3 as much power as the LCD on the Xperia Arc.
Winner - Samsung Galaxy S II
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/771128/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_sony_ericsson_xperia_arc.html
In regards to the screen size, Galaxy S II offers a slightly bigger screen at 4.3 –inch compared to that of Xperia Arc (4.2-inch). Samsung Super AMOLED display provides excellent sunlight legibility and needs only 1/3 of the power amount used by Xperia’s LCD display.
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please dont compare the phones as they are not even in the same level.
Arc is more of an Galaxy 1 line. the difference is they have HDMI support.
hell the galaxy 1 has 2 cameras " at least for us in europe and asia "
the only 2 phones that are close to SGS2 but " dont beat " the SGS2 in terms of performance is the Atrix and Optimus 2x.
I had the Arc, don't have my Galaxy S2 yet, so I can't compare, so take my words with a grain of salt:
The Arc is a very nice looking phone, with a great screen, and it was running very smooth out of the box. But the ROM size was a joke, RAM could have been bigger for a high-end phone released in 2011, and the position of the headphone jack and the camera/lock keys were extremely annoying.
I love the design, but I don't like the form-over-function approach. Furthermore, I didn't find a single unit (not the two I had, not on any picture on the net), that didn't have a raised upper left corner of the screen, what was visible to me even when looking from the front.
It's by no means a bad phone, but the S2 offers much more on paper, and it's the price is only a little higher where I live.
I'll keep an eye on Sony's Dual-Core phones (they'll come sooner or later) though. And as far as I know, Sony even produces AMOLEDs, it would be nice if they'd use it for their phones.
You'll get dual core phones from Sony Ericsson when everyone else have started to produce quad core devices.
gupta.anurag08 said:
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc
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I used both and sold S II. The main reasons I sold S II:
1. AMOLED colors are not for me. Looks too fake/retro.
2. Felt too wide. With screens over 4" it's already a pain to reach to the top of the screen. With the width, it's tough on thumb for my medium size hands.
3. Hated Samsung color selection on UI. Or, it could be I liked SE more classy interface.
4. Phone design has no style and looks like a copycat of iPhone.
Good things about SG II
1. In my two days of use SG II seems to perform buttery smooth while Arc starts to lag once you start to install some apps and widgets. Could be related to these apps.
2. Phone ugly and cheap but it atleast feels solid unlike Arc whose battery cover squeaks somewhere in the middle. I had to put a small folded tape in there to fill the gap inside to stop the squeaky feel. What's funny is most of the SE phones always had problems with battery covers :-(
3. Front camera + all the killer specs
Why I kept Arc?
1. Screen colors
2. Gorgeous style (Misty Silver) and phone feels more ergonomic in my hand
3. Almost everyone I showed pick Arc over Samsung. Of course, once I told the specs, SG II started to get selected.
4. I like SE UI. Dialer looks absolutely stunning compared to any other dialer I saw. I wish it had smart dialing feature.
You should seriously give S II a try if you think you can easily sell it. I was fortunate to make over $60 profit on it after using it for couple of days as it's not available easily to buy. If you are happy with the S II design and AMOLED colors, it's an easy choice to make. SE flunked big time with the specs on Arc. It almost feels like X10 came in a different package and Gingerbread.
Intratech said:
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Or if they come up with specs similar to others, they will come out with old OS
kitsVA said:
I used both and sold S II. The main reasons I sold S II:
1. AMOLED colors are not for me. Looks too fake/retro.
2. Felt too wide. With screens over 4" it's already a pain to reach to the top of the screen. With the width, it's tough on thumb for my medium size hands.
3. Hated Samsung color selection on UI. Or, it could be I liked SE more classy interface.
4. Phone design has no style and looks like a copycat of iPhone.
Good things about SG II
1. In my two days of use SG II seems to perform buttery smooth while Arc starts to lag once you start to install some apps and widgets. Could be related to these apps.
2. Phone ugly and cheap but it atleast feels solid unlike Arc whose battery cover squeaks somewhere in the middle. I had to put a small folded tape in there to fill the gap inside to stop the squeaky feel. What's funny is most of the SE phones always had problems with battery covers :-(
3. Front camera + all the killer specs
Why I kept Arc?
1. Screen colors
2. Gorgeous style (Misty Silver) and phone feels more ergonomic in my hand
3. Almost everyone I showed pick Arc over Samsung. Of course, once I told the specs, SG II started to get selected.
4. I like SE UI. Dialer looks absolutely stunning compared to any other dialer I saw. I wish it had smart dialing feature.
You should seriously give S II a try if you think you can easily sell it. I was fortunate to make over $60 profit on it after using it for couple of days as it's not available easily to buy. If you are happy with the S II design and AMOLED colors, it's an easy choice to make. SE flunked big time with the specs on Arc. It almost feels like X10 came in a different package and Gingerbread.
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to each has his own. as hardware design. i like the Arc. and so i did like the xperia. sony has a style in everything they do. thats sony. their user interface is always sleek and high class. i dare to put them in the same level as apple if not higher.
but thats as far as it goes. everything else fall apart. specs wise. the arc is really old generarion. its same level as galaxy 1. and we passed that since the beginning of new year when dual core started showing up . there is no excuse to what sony is doing. they are 6 months late at LEAST in terms of technology. they are not keeping up with other companies.
HTC dual core within this month or next.
LG already out with new core. first in the market
Motorolla since Feb .
Samsung since May with 1.2 dual core.
Apple with Ipad 2.
what are they exactly waiting for. i am not going to get fooled again and buy a device based on its look like how i did with the xperia x10. one is enough. as long as they dont keep up. iam not going to bother.
also. 4.27 is big when 4 is ok ? its .27, its pretty much nothing. plus the phone is super slim. so that makes it up.
and you dont like the colors of SG2 when everyone praised it ? hell ok. even if you didnt. you could have picked the option " Movie " in the backlight option and you would get narutal colors.
again. i am not judgnig you. i just find it odd that you sell the best phone in the market and keeping and old tech one. unless there is another reason like money etc.
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and you dont like the colors of SG2 when everyone praised it ? hell ok. even if you didnt. you could have picked the option " Movie " in the backlight option and you would get narutal colors.
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That's the mode I used mostly as the colors look way too over saturated in the other two modes. But, like you said, "to each his own". I guess that is why there are so many phones. I happen to prefer Arc screen, style, and UI more than GSII.
All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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Update us in Arc forum after you try SG2. I see SG2 as a Vegas Buffet. Arc as a fine dinner .
All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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Update us in Arc forum after you try SG2. I see SG2 as a Vegas Buffet. Arc as a fine dinner .
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Haha, sure..thats y I started this thread in SG2 forum to have an unbiased opinion
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Can't believe nobody's mentioned it here, but I originally chose the Arc for the camera and design. Come to find out the camera was a lot of hype and the design was pretty much ruined by the fact that it felt plasticky and I constantly had to clean it from finger prints.
Finally got fed up when the creaking back component showed up on mine. But the fingerprint issue is just awful on the Arc. Can't speak for the SGSII as I haven't got mine yet, but I returned the Arc within a week.
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Can't believe nobody's mentioned it here, but I originally chose the Arc for the camera and design. Come to find out the camera was a lot of hype and the design was pretty much ruined by the fact that it felt plasticky and I constantly had to clean it from finger prints.
Finally got fed up when the creaking back component showed up on mine. But the fingerprint issue is just awful on the Arc. Can't speak for the SGSII as I haven't got mine yet, but I returned the Arc within a week.
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I was not going to bring up the creaking and weird way it felt in the hands just so that we can come back and read the complaints when people buy it. I don't or did own an Arc but one of my friends did, went through 3 of them in fact. They all creaked and the battery cover was weird so he eventually give up and got a refund.
You knew it would happen soon enough. SE to release a "Duo" Core Android device.
Looks interesting.
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-duo-leaked.html
Bigger pic found here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/17/sony-ericsson-xperia-duo-leaked/
Looks like HTC Phone ... (read: looks ****ty )
Looks great but I will buy a new phone when sony releases a phone with quadcore, Im sure this will be next year!
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Looks like HTC Phone ... (read: looks ****ty )
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Looks OK to me!
I wonder if it will come in white too!
Luster white like X10, not silver like the Arc!
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Thanks for this news..but this design is ugly!! :-( cannot be compared with arc style!!
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Seriously?? Thats it? Man believe it or not being one of the company having most of android shares Sony is lagging behind in hardware as well as in software ... Just photos are out which are still not confirmed by Sony whereelse companies like samaung, Lg already got dual core .. Shame Sony you are just losing your fans ..i have been using Sony mobiles since 5 years used many mobiles but now I have to think before buying Sony..
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Wow, that looks sexy. Altough I know it isn't official I like it. I also hope that the 4.5 inch will go to 4.3 inch or lower. It's to big! Defintely my next phone. It something ''original'' instead of copied.
Top part does look like a HTC, whole thing looks fake.
What are the chances of Sony Ericsson using ST-Ericsson processors for their upcoming dual core phones? Apparently the U8500 and the NovaThor Processors are pretty powerful and very power efficient.
Looks ugly.
I have always hated how SE moved the 'XPERIA' wording from below the LCD screen (X10) to below the hardware buttons (Arc), it just doesn't look right.
The proportions of the 'Duo' look messed up.
intersdating...........
seems fake & ugly
anyway can't wait for SE to catch up
My version of Duo
My chopping
Just some stupid chopping, body borrowed from Sensation and Arc...
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My chopping
Just some stupid chopping, body borrowed from Sensation and Arc...
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Submit it to SE. Who knows?! Looks very nice.
Wow!that's cool!how many months have past since the arc is out?now we are getting a new xperia!!haha SE is getting really ridiculous! Would be better for them if they recall the arc totally and keep investing on the x10 till this "duo" is coming out! I foresee a really short lifespan for the arc!
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Hopefull it will come in April 2012, because I just ordered the Arc and want it to be SE's flagship device for almost a year...
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whoever design this, they better sent this design back to drawing board or facing the consequences of low sales for this phone
If this is to be x8 segment price I still can understand, but for dual core flagship smartphone, it made lg optimus 2x looks like a state of the art design.
I think the design is pretty good. I mean how many ways can you design a phone that's basically made up of entirely of a touch screen? There is a new pic going around with the Duo right next to the Arc that can be found at the bottom of this link:
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...-preps-a-dual-core-smartphone-xperia-duo.aspx
From the looks of things, it might still have an "arc" form factor.
Its looking pretty decent from the front wonder how the back looks and it seems to be solid from the pics im looking. I mean it could have been worse!
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I agree. We need to see the back of it to make the decision on whether or not it looks ugly. I'm hoping it doesn't follow the htc battery cover design choices....
I had an Xperia S for a week. And I hated it. So I got my arc S back and I couldn't be happier.
If you're ever tempted by an Xperia S - don't do it. It's just not good enough.
Why?it is faster,and screen is much better.
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I tried xperia s and find it heavier, worse picture quality, worse design and i missed the physical buttons. So i stick with arc S, still my fovorite so far.
I felt the build quality was poorer than the arc. Wasn't as big a step forward as is claimed, tbh.
isnt the dual core do nothing for it??
I was all for getting one, until I had one in the hand, two big for my liking. I really want my next Phone to be Sony, but if they continue the trend of creating bricks like most manufactures seem to be doing these days then I'll stick with my S.E and I might just upgrade to the Arc S.
I don't want a mini tablet as a Phone.
Wait for the GX guys, it's true Arc successor.
I'm waiting for SX to replace my Ray
I think 4-4,3 inch is the limit for the smartphone. Everything above is... tablet. Arc S is good enough for me.
I think the bigger a phone the better, I thought the xperia s looked good in the pictures but when held it irl it feels fat and the bezel looks really thick (big turnoff). But I'd still go for performance over design.
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What I didn't like:
Soft buttons are terrible - often takes 2 or 3 taps for then to work. Very frustrating.
Terrible battery life on the latest ICS F/W.
Heavy and uncomfortable to hold for long.
Bravia engine doesn't work on latest ICS F/W.
Power Saver app completely useless.
Sony UK refusing to repair screen tint issues if you've unlocked the bootloader.
Occasional hang when using the Quick Launch camera button.
Fonts too small for me - and using Large option only works in some apps and is ignored by Timescape, etc.
The flap on the USB port won't last long.
Stupid menu design for the launcher.
Widget picker takes 5 seconds to appear.
This phone looks great on paper but feels half-finished to me. I can see why the reviews were so lacklustre now.
So I'm back using my arc S which I will keep until I've saved up for a Galaxy Nexus. Sony have done a poor job of ICS and I they no longer have my trust. Why can't they produce a couple of excellent devices instead of releasing mediocre phones every few months? The mind boggles.
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
I find it ridiculous when people say " the bigger the phone, the better." Perhaps ego issues to compensate for something else ? Lol
Seriously, it is silly to put a tablet sized phone next to your eat. Just don't, please, for the love of god.
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Thanks for the review guys as my x10 is up for upgrade in 2-3 months time and was naturally thinking of this, I am a se fanboy.
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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I'd hang fire, I've got 8 months left on my contract so I've got plenty of time to see what Sony can come up with in the future. I was going to sell my Arc the other week and get a Ray as I was wanting something smaller but after some thought decided to stick with the Arc in the end. There's nothing that I really like when I look at line up on GSMArena, maybe the Arco S but I'd have to hold it before deciding.
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Soft buttons ARE terrible, even calendar launcher(lower left corner) interrupts with user interaction.
a mid range / mid end device doing a very nice job. even hdmi output is surprisingly smooth.
well, fairly spoken I had no expectations with ics, even sony's official website claims that, I never understood that, why some people got confused with "improved" performance and "speedy" UI, they both are different things.
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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100% true. When I first booted JJHybrid 3.2 it was a rocket comparing to stock ICS. Now with few apps instaled (<30), everything lags, even keyboard, which should be one of the main things in phone. Looks like, arc S in my last Sony phone.....from now on I am 85% sure, my next phone will be Galaxy Nexus.
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I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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I haven't looked at PowerAmp for about 6 months. I didn't like it much though but will take another look.
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
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It's much better than any other music app I've found.
how about mort player?
remember most android users are free bee :highfive:
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