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X10 vs desire vs galaxy s

Hello guys I wana knkw which is better . Cuz when I post on desire forum x10 vs desire they all were x10 sux and stuff and and I also post x10 vs.vibrant they said the vibrant is better im trying to collect some info cuz im buying eithrr desire or galaxy s on monday orr should I keep the x10 and wait for 2.1 cuz I dont like the 1.6 and its been almost forever still no 2.1 on x10 I wonder if 2.1 will be available how nice x10 will be I just cant imagine it . So plz help me guys n wht u think and also would 2.1 would it.bring camera flash?

First of all 2.1 isn't going bring camera flash.. that's hardware related, and second why did you buy x10, when you knew it had 1.6 on it?

Flash:
Download Vignette from the market.
X10 vs Galaxy:
My mate bight a galaxy S two weeks ago and is already sending it in for replacement.
1.6 vs 2.1:
If you can't wait a few more weeks, then I highly doubt you'll be keeping either of those phones because of the compulsive need to always upgrade. Kinda defeats the purpose, really.
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HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.

^ 100% Agree.

Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.

@htc fan89 i bought my x10 3 months ago i didnt had knowledge of android or what 1.6 was. i can wait 3 weeks or whatever but is it official that its coming this month or its just people saying it .

I'm just tried of people crying for 2.1...that's all

applebook said:
HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.
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Nicely put
We're always going to have the need to upgrade to the latest android smartphone just to get the full potential. It's a never ending cycle, and unfortunately I'm a victim. I think I will stick with the Xperia X10 since I've gone through so much with it and although it is my 5th Android phone, I've learned most about Android capabilities from the X10. It's a good phone, I'm sure in a few months something awesome will come in Canada and we all going to want it. I've tried selling my phone but the resell value is just ridiculous. I'll be sticking with the X10, even though I love Super AMOLED. I want to be around when the bootloader gets cracked.

What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz

Resale is about $300 cdn if that. Theres tonnes of them up on kijiji and craigslist.
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tuxStyle said:
What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz
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lol dual core would be LEGENDARY

trojjanhorse said:
lol dual core would be LEGENDARY
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Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.

ddewbofh said:
Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.
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I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.

trojjanhorse said:
I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.
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I'm interested in the deverlopment as well. I think we're going to see a period of increased power, much like the Ghz wars of the past ten years. After that we're probably going to see more effort being put into better battery-life and increased portability. Much like Laptops are becoming the norm for computers I think Smartphones (or rather their descendants) are going to replace Laptops as the daily computing platform.
A major part of todays interweb users could probably switch from using computers to smartphones without losing any functionality. Just attach a larger screen and a bluetooth keyboard and you can Facebook, mail, surf the web, watch youtube, play casual games and enjoy media.

devilleather said:
Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.
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you got me all excited about this boomerang bouncy ball feature, then i realised that you were being sarcastic... devo

fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....

mootmaina said:
fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....
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Hang on, below spec for version 3? You're whining over a recommendation, not requirement, for an OS update that will come out six months after the device was released? Sheesh, some people really need to learn how to have realistic expectations.

fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.

mootmaina said:
fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.
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The support being **** isn't really fair, we've had more than one update every month that fixes a lot of issues so the support isn't bad. The outdated software has a point but the OS shipped with the phone is being updated and we're going to see a new OS in a matter of weeks.
OLED? I can go on for pages about it but I'll just mention two points. Sunlight and bad resolution.
It's totally crap in sunlight, even more so than any other screen I've experienced. I've tried to use the Desire in sunlight but even max brightness and shading it with my hand didn't help.
The resolution is crap. Period. Not only does it have a effective lower resolution when you use it compared to counting the actual pixels but it also makes text and high contrast graphics really blurry. If you have an oled display nearby I invite you to look closely at black text on white background on both it and a tft display and compare them. Even though the difference is smaller when look at from a distance many have complained that the difference, even though hard to notice from a distance, gives them headaches.
For me brighter colours don't make up for crap resolution. I'll gladly take fewer colors if it means that I can read on it and use it outdoors.

XPERIA ARC vs IPHONE 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRZj5Z2whIE

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRZj5Z2whIE
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Nice comparison.

Always impressed by the speed of iOS's browser against Android's, but I believe that's due the flash-support in Android's browser ( ads and stuff )

Very good. I have both phones but use the Arc as my primary. For me Android, with widgets, proper file-management and ability of doing things with the phone without always having to asking Job's permission, will always be a hug advantage. And now with the Arc, that is as fast as the iPhone and has an even bigger screen it is a total win. I'm not saying Android or the Arc are fault-free, but they're pretty damn good, both of them!
Cheers/M

How do you have an arc? They've not released it yet have they?
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im_iceman said:
How do you have an arc? They've not released it yet have they?
Sent from my X10 using XDA and Swype.
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Sweden always has stuff from Sony Ericsson before any other country, and many review samples have been distributed.

Indeed, mine is a prototype. Have had it for a month now and still very very satisfied. Especially in view of the price ;-)
Cheers/M
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i think XPERIA ARC is the same as IPHONE 4 speed, look at an other video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuGjoOSDCCw

the only thing i think maybe! iphone wins in,is battery! iwish sony made us a good battery!
nice comparison!

senaps said:
the only thing i think maybe! iphone wins in,is battery! iwish sony made us a good battery!
nice comparison!
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It's not that the battery's quality is not good, it all depends on the processor and the applications used.
remember that Android has true multi-task, so many applications are running in the background. Unlike iOS which closes everything to save battery.
2.2 and 2.3 seems to work well in terms of using less power .

Howz the battery consumption of arc compared to x10?
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McHan said:
Very good. I have both phones but use the Arc as my primary. For me Android, with widgets, proper file-management and ability of doing things with the phone without always having to asking Job's permission, will always be a hug advantage. And now with the Arc, that is as fast as the iPhone and has an even bigger screen it is a total win. I'm not saying Android or the Arc are fault-free, but they're pretty damn good, both of them!
Cheers/M
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I wish I could agree, but I can't disagree more.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14111849#post14111849

vladuz976 said:
I wish I could agree, but I can't disagree more.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14111849#post14111849
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I have no problems with my Arc. It's just you.

CarbonX13 said:
I have no problems with my Arc. It's just you.
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I have the Arc. I have no idea why that person's phone is slow. I certainly don't have that issue.
And yes I also have an iphone 4, which i have happily handed over to my wife.
I honestly believe the Arc is hands-down the best phone you can get right now.
And please don't bring up samsung phones. Their build quality is crap. To be honest, Arc's build quality is still not up to Nokia or Apple levels but its a lot better than Samsung and good enough for me.

agree. after resetting my arc, it became lightening fast. I don't know what was wrong, but I am in love with it now.

I'm not so sure apples build quality is that much better. I dropped my iPhone 4 from about 3 feet and the screen cracked. My x10 got kicked, yes kicked about ten feet. I put it back together and it worked fine. Just a little dent in the corner
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gavriel18 said:
I'm not so sure apples build quality is that much better. I dropped my iPhone 4 from about 3 feet and the screen cracked. My x10 got kicked, yes kicked about ten feet. I put it back together and it worked fine. Just a little dent in the corner
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Apple build quality is generally pretty poor. Their cases hold up physically really well (you rarely see them actually falling apart even after serious abuse) but the reliability of their electronics is shocking - i've lost count of the number of friends that have sent ipods/iphones back, and dont get me started on their headphones - i think they last about 6 months per pair. The plus side is that they do tend to replace faulty kit pretty rapidly without question.
I think people convince themselves apple kit is well built because, hey, they must be paying all that extra money for *something*, right? Kind of like how if you tell someone a bottle of wine is expensive they will prefer the taste to the same bottle if you told them it was cheap.

xperia arc review - engadget

First review I have seen
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/

everything non Apple is bad for Engadget
mith500 said:
First review I have seen
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
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This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews

hung77 said:
This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews
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quite, dear sir, quite.
i never liked them..

Why on earth did the Incredible S get 8 points and the Arc 7? Same chips, Arc has a bigger and better screen, better camera, looks great and sleek, comes with 2.3 already (!), only has less RAM. And did they even mention sound/call quality?
Engadget is a bad joke.

george232 said:
Why on earth did the Incredible S get 8 points and the Arc 7? Same chips, Arc has a bigger and better screen, better camera, looks great and sleek, comes with 2.3 already (!), only has less RAM. And did they even mention sound/call quality?
Engadget is a bad joke.
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But I do agree with them that the videocam is terrible ! I hope they can fix that.
Personally I'd give it 8 out of 10 but that comes from a guy who just ordered one today and cant wait to get it on friday. Guess I "want" it to be 8/10.
Ah what the hell, its gonna be awesome

I love how they wouldnt stop talking about how thin the iphone 4 was but it was barely mentioned in the Arc review and when it was, it was shown in a negative light. The iphone 4 should have gotten a 7 just for the fact that the screen is so bloody small.
Horrible Engadget horrible.

Theres another review over at What Mobile, quite thorough and seems generally positive. They gave the phone a 5 out of 5
Sadly i cant paste links yet, but google sony ericsson arc review and you should see it, or go to What Mobile's site

The only downside to the Arc's buttonry is one we spotted with the Xperia Play as well -- there's no illumination for the key labels in the dark. You get a pair of lights marking the division between each key, but their purpose is basically indecipherable when the phone's used in the dark
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Hahaha... ooh 3 buttons.. oooh.. I can't remember which one is which.. it's so complex! if only there was just one button.. that would be much better!

hung77 said:
This Engadget site is pro Apple and is against anything else which is not made by Apple. Ignore this site for android device reviews
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I do not bother visiting Engadget any more as they are only positive with Apple products. Time to clean out the reviewers I think and get some fresh faces there that will give us unbiased opinions on new technology from non fan boys.
I was hopping the camera was as good as they were making out it was going to be in there advertising lets hope there can be a software update to improve the quality a little.

Engadget is a good source for review
You can check also CNet UK which give good review
(http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review-50002090/)
The point is that SE saves money where they should not
Giving little RAM make no sense
It makes the machine slow when running new games or multi-tasking and this is not what the end user want
It is difficult enough to compete with dual-cores so at least give us 512mb or 768mb - this is also probably the reason why the camera video is jerky
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor

Nice. I have a feeling that a Factory unlocked Xperia ARC will be my next device . IF the unlock bootlader thing comes out first!

Positive review on Pocket Lint as well.
http://m.pocket-lint.com/reviews/review_summary.phtml/5341

assafk said:
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
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It's far better than the iPhone 4 camera. I have both.
And the advertisement was mainly in the low light capabilities, where it's FAR better than the iPhone.

i like this thing!! i buy this thing!!
it rocks!

assafk said:
You can check also CNet UK which give good review
(http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review-50002090/)
The point is that SE saves money where they should not
Giving little RAM make no sense
It makes the machine slow when running new games or multi-tasking and this is not what the end user want
It is difficult enough to compete with dual-cores so at least give us 512mb or 768mb - this is also probably the reason why the camera video is jerky
Camera also not as good as advertised since small sensor
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1) arc has 512 ram. all new xperias have 512 ram
2) the camera is awsome, for a phone. there are comparison vids between iphone4 and arc.. you see the difference lol
3) camera is not jerky cuz of low ram. lol. or am i wrong here? but still if it can be, they must have had a ton of apps in the background, since 300+ mb of user available ram is MORE than enough for a friggin camera lol.

Even while multitask-gaming (multiple games open at once) and listening to music and just using my Arc for general stuff, I haven't dropped below 80MB free RAM. And I do not use task killers or kill processes. RAM is really not a problem ATM.
The camera is really, really good for a phone. Only the Nokia N8 has a better camera. Especially in low light, the photos might not be really really good, but they're still by far the best of all mobile phone cameras. In such a small and slim device it's impossible to fit a larger sensor, so it's impossible to get a much better camera anyway.
Camera video jerky? There's a small bug that makes video hang for half a second when switching between very dark and very light images, but that is the only thing I've noticed, and it happens very rarely.

hung77 said:
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I understand your point but did you even read the article? They gave it a good review. Also to those referring to the number system please remember that the same person does not usually do all phone reviews so they are subjective.
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gsm arena's xperia arc review is out
but I cant read it, it is gibberish....WTF! April fools or what?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-583.php
EDIT: new link for the review in English...lol
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc-review-584.php

It should be clear by now that this review article, outlived in a day, was a mere April's Fools Day joke. We have a proper Arc review up online, so you should refer to that instead. We're glad you saw the funny side of it. If you are interested, you can find more about the Lorem ipsum dolor text here. To see more of our 1st April's spirit, check out our Genesis tablet.
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Yup, Arpil fool. They have a real review up but i can't link it.

The lorem ipsum dolor text is an old Microsoft joke used to display how fonts appear in Word to give the user an idea which font to choose. The text means nothing, it's a bunch of words sounding Latin and therefore important and smart.

On the whole, is the Arc worth it? Opinions...

I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?

Obviously every phone is different so some ones would reboot and some wouldn't. Mine doesn't everything works for me perfectly, the only thing thats bugging me is that development isnt doing too good, in not complaining cause I know it will come eventually cause the phone hasn't been out that long. I would go for tho phone 100% I cant find anything wrong with it so and ice had it for over a week now
Hope this helps u
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Mine is up for 550 hours without reboot.
It speaks for itself.

Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)

Well, you are @ arc forum. most people like their phone per details they were looking for. On the other hand, you have to sort out your important facts which you are expecting from your next phone(which varies from one person to another).
Problems you have listed don't appear for everyone, whether I have been lucky with phone or not, I have never encountered issues like that with any of my SE phones.
Your best bet is to go to store and compare list of phones that you are interested side by side and see what makes you happy. but as far as me being an arc owner, I should say that satisfies my needs and I have not yet had any issue with it as everything is solid and moving forward.
I have to say, this phone is exactly what everyone requested from SE to make. Update hardware, software + get rid of all the SCAPES(which is sort of optional now and not integrated anymore) I just love this + possibility to have unlocked bootloader on certain models. What else can you ask?
just my 7 cents

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Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
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And huge battery drain from stock camera app.
For 720p recording you can give up image stabilization feature for well-synced audio. For camera you have yo use 3rd party camera app like vignette.

I think this says it all - the Arc is the best single-core handset in the world.
That isn't to say that the Arc is without it's foibles; there are a few things could be better and it's a shame it lacks certain features like a front-facing camera or NFC but the pros outweigh the cons.
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.

Im also very interested in this i own a x10 and have some questions.im thinkin bout it but just dont think is worth getting . The x10 is unbrickable. Its getting custom kernels that are undoin SE's crap. Plus arc doesnt have any custom roms yet And i like the size and desighn of my x10 . And tthe x10 has a pretty strong xda community
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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rtblittlebrown said:
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.

Step666 said:
Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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Scott_HKR said:
I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
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Congrats on being the owner of W995. To me, that's the best non-smartphone without touchscreen ever made
You will definitely be very very happy with Arc. There could be something better depending on your needs but you can't go wrong with Arc and I think Arc is currently the best looking phone for my taste and I think it almost feels as good as W995 ;-)

Step666 said:
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
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Why? Because its dual core? That means absolutely nothing! Dual core is not even needed these days. Galaxy S was an over hype phone imo, ditched it in about a week to get back my X10, and the Galaxy S2 will be the continuation of Samsungs over hyped nonsense.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.

Step666 said:
You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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I simply stated the galaxy s didnt do a damn thing better or faster than what the x10 already did. Regardless of its specs vs the X10....it was over hyped.
*edit* sorry, the galaxy s video recording destroys the X10.
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Yes, my mistake - you claimed they were basically equal which is still extremely questionable.
I'm not a Samsung person, I think TouchWiz is a horrific, iPhone-y, designed for and by 5-year-olds joke of a UI. And I think the Galaxy S is a cheap plastic PoS handset.
But it blows the X10 out the water every single day of the week - better screen, better CPU, more RAM, much more internal memory, better stills and video camera in my experience, better software support/upgrades (which is saying something given how poor Samsung are at that).
The Galaxy S2 is simply the best handset in the world right now, not only on paper but every review/hands-on with it says the same thing.
It's not just the dual-core CPU, though as time goes on that will definitely be a huge advantage over the likes of the Arc; double the RAM, a better screen (ok, a little less clear-cut than the difference between the Galaxy S and the X10 but it probably still edges it based on little things like viewing angles), significantly more internal memory, larger battery, better video camera - it's even thinner than the Arc!
So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
I'm not saying the Arc is a bad phone, it has genuinely wowed me and I really didn't expect it to but there's no point kidding ourselves that it's living on borrowed time before it's left behind.

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So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
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Well, it's an advantage, but I'm a bit conservative when it comes to say huge advantage. Benchmark is great; But, it's an intensive number-crunching process most of the time. IMO, that deviates what I (and probably most of the users) use my smartphone for. I don't use my smartphones to calculate Pi, audio/video editing, etc.
I think dual-core will be shafted by quad-core even before the mass-adoption of the technology by the app developers.
I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.

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I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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That's the one good thing Samsung have done with TouchWiz (apparently).

Hi
I shall make an amendment to the agreement with my mobile op. and I am wondering whether SE Xperia Arc is a good choice. I have always use Nokia phones and I thought to buy Nokia N8, but I when I saw Arc I've changed my mind. Arc design and mutlimedia possibilities are great, but when I read about battery draining, lags, vid/audio sync problems I am not happy about it.
I am wondering if SE will fix this problem soon? Are these problems only software or maybe it is hardware failure? Do you think it will be repaired soon? When the next software update is expected?
Please help me to make a good choice.
Thanks a lot

hi.. battery drain is seemingly caused by a couple of software issues.. camera and google maps.. both of which should be fixed/ fixable.
lags - not seen many/any reports of lag.
video/audio sync - short term fix is either to use fwvga or try switching image stabilisation off. long term SE should be fixing that.
next update from SE expected in the next couple of months..
Sent from The Arc!

Thanks
I have only a liitle knowledge of Andoid system so tell me If I root my phone is it possible to remove google maps and camera soft? Will it help? Or maybe this is possible without rooting the phone?

GSMArena review is out

Of all the sites, I find GSMArenas review process to be one of the most thorough & reputable
Here's their take on the Z1
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-987.php
It's all pretty good, right until you come to the frankly bewildering browser & video playing battery life.
Hopefully it's something that can be addressed in firmware as the talktime & standby time are pretty good.

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Of all the sites, I find GSMArenas review process to be one of the most thorough & reputable
Here's their take on the Z1
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-987.php
It's all pretty good, right until you come to the frankly bewildering browser & video playing battery life.
Hopefully it's something that can be addressed in firmware as the talktime & standby time are pretty good.
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Note, they call out the lack of HDR for images. HDR isn't an option in Superior Auto, or when you go manual and bump to full resolution; however, if you drop the resolution in manual to 8MP, HDR is indeed there. With how fast the images take, I'm surprised they didn't leave HDR as an option for the 20MP resolution, but hey, they probably have their reasons.

There are 2 HDR modes as well. Just shows how unthorough the review was.
I dont understand why companies think it is ok to release buggy phones. The Z1 really needs an update, espcially on the camera. Battery life is excellent

Generaly I like the test of GSM Arena but not this one, because they fail on the 2 major point of the phone, the screen and the camera.
For the camera they said that they're not impressed. Yes but they couldn't make a good with the default of the lens of the pre-unit they had. So they can't juge this point.
The second one is the screen. It's maybe not the best, the HTC One or the LG G2 are maybe better. But the S4 screen isn't better than the one of the Z1. I have both and I made some test. When the contrast is better on the S4, the color are false. When the color are right (in video mode), the contrast and the brightness is better on the Z1 screen.

It's hard to compare side by side. It's like buying a TV at best buy or Fry's. You're in the showroom and you can nitpick from one TV to another. Get any one by itself and you probably wouldn't have any problems with any of them (beyond defects and/or missing features and whatnot). Most users wouldn't know the difference.

I dont trust gsmarena, they are too biased towards Samsung, ill wait until technobuffalo or someone else review the z1

It looks like Sony rushed the product.
Battery life : lets hope firmware update improves it.
Camera : lets hope blah blah same as above
Screen : not guaranteed. Lets hope blah blah
If this is the case then why not lets see if the z2 is better and then buy that.
They haven't put s-master audio chip/amplifier to boost volume level.
I was looking for a 5 inch phone which bests my One. But m sure Z1 is not that phone.
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A firmware update is not going to fix the battery life. Otherwise the Z wouldn't be as anemic as it is. Weak video and browser times.

Yeah the battery life had me scared the most since my phone is on its way in the mail.
How can they make a phone with the same SoC as the G2, same batterysize, and a smaller screen, and it gets half the browsing and videotime as the G2. Sounds like software to me.
Also when you pull up the camera comparison on gsm arena, the Z1 pictures doesn't even stand a chance against the S4 or G2.

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Yeah the battery life had me scared the most since my phone is on its way in the mail.
How can they make a phone with the same SoC as the G2, same batterysize, and a smaller screen, and it gets half the browsing and videotime as the G2. Sounds like software to me.
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I'd say it's the screen.

g2 uses a new battery technology .. z1 didnt

Darn, Now I'm really thinking twice about buying this phone...
The Battery Life is very important to me... 6 hours of web browsing and 6 hours of video playback is quite pathetic for a 3000 mah battery...
I was at least expecting 9 hours each...

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I'd say it's the screen.
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weird since IPS screens are less battery efficient than TN panels.

This really sucks by sony...
How can a bigger phone with bigger screen Z Ultra have more video playback than a smaller phone Z1?
both uses same software, battery and same screen....
I cannot understand this...

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This really sucks by sony...
How care a bigger phone with bigger screen Z Ultra have more video playback than a smaller phone Z1?
both uses same software, battery and same screen....
I cannot understand this...
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GSM stated that their xperia z1 is a pre-production one so it probably doesn't have the latest software . Therefore their statements on the phone are probably not accurate

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GSM stated that their xperia z1 is a pre-production one so it probably doesn't have the latest software . Therefore their statements on the phone are probably not accurate
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Reviews based on pre-production units only make confusion because you'll never be sure if they changed something in the final unit or not. There might be a small update in the firmware for example that changes how the phone performs. I'm surprised Sony Mobile gives out pre-release devices for reviews.
And based on this GSM Arena review the battery life is very poor, half of what other competitors achieve (LG G2).

sachinaik said:
It looks like Sony rushed the product.
Battery life : lets hope firmware update improves it.
Camera : lets hope blah blah same as above
Screen : not guaranteed. Lets hope blah blah
If this is the case then why not lets see if the z2 is better and then buy that.
They haven't put s-master audio chip/amplifier to boost volume level.
I was looking for a 5 inch phone which bests my One. But m sure Z1 is not that phone.
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In terms of sales, definitely.
Oh, camera, speed too.
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weird since IPS screens are less battery efficient than TN panels.
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Perhaps it is weird. I can't say I'm a tech guru but it just feels like it's a power-hungry screen. Did Sony spend so much time beefing up screen quality that it neglected (or felt it warranted the sacrifice of) battery life? I don't know, but I get the impression that this is the case.
I doubt software optimisation is going to change much, but I do accept the possibility that I could be wrong.

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GSM stated that their xperia z1 is a pre-production one so it probably doesn't have the latest software . Therefore their statements on the phone are probably not accurate
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Agreed, although I add the caveat that if there's any firmware change or a new unit, GSM Arena are likely to redo those parts of the review and update (like they did on the HTC 1 when that too had non final software)