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Good news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-buy-out-ericsson-their-mobile-division-says-wsj
I think so. Sony has generally been on or near the bleeding edge of technology, whether it be beta tapes, OLED screens or blu-rays. I expect a lot of good things from this buy out. Don't fail me now Sony!
What do you guys think?
sopdogg said:
Good news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-buy-out-ericsson-their-mobile-division-says-wsj
I think so. Sony has generally been on or near the bleeding edge of technology, whether it be beta tapes, OLED screens or blu-rays. I expect a lot of good things from this buy out. Don't fail me now Sony!
What do you guys think?
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I LUV Sony........
N Luv Each n every thing released by it..........
Sony is Best....
Its the only Brand, Which thinks of giving the customer extra......
Yep thats good news!
best idea ever..
ericcson was the one failing.
it's funny, stock market analysts called this one long ago. people on here all disagreed..
All kinds of epic things are going to come of this!
About time
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I love Sony they are awesome.
make.believe
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so i guess devices will be called SONY SONY ..
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so i guess devices will be called SONY SONY ..
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sony sonyson?
Should be a smart move. Cant wait to see there first release smartphone.
I like Sony Sonyson. Sounds awesome!
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Interesting to say the least. Looking forward to checking out their first unique release after the buyout. I'd expect a lot more interaction and compatibility with other Sony products for starters.
Am I the only one who's a bit worried?
Remember the whole PS3 Hacking fiasco? Sony like locking their stuff down, and attack anyone who tries to break it.
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Am I the only one who's a bit worried?
Remember the whole PS3 Hacking fiasco? Sony like locking their stuff down, and attack anyone who tries to break it.
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nah..
that would bury them and they know it.
this will be the best decision imo.
sony will have better business ethics and try to actually be a leader
Sony couldn't afford to buy Ericsson, the rumours are that Sony would purchase Sony Ericsson aka the Ericsson mobile division.
I've always like Ericsson phones, so this would be a slight disappointment to me, but if Sony can put proper audio processors in their walkman range and better image processing in the cybershot phones and they use nicer materials for their phones then I would continue supporting them.
Imagine a Z Walkman phone?
Source?
@topic: I really like Sony. I have one Xbox, but some further integration with all of their devices (Vaio series, Bravia TV's, cybershot cameras, PS3/PSP/PSVita) would be nice. (would love to see thing related to Arc and PSVita, it would be AMAZING *-*)
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it's better than anything else..
they would probably go out of business otherwise
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Am I the only one who's a bit worried?
Remember the whole PS3 Hacking fiasco? Sony like locking their stuff down, and attack anyone who tries to break it.
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Sony locked PS3 to sell games.
And why would they lock android?
Woo ho I have a jailbroken PS3.
Thanks geohot!!
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Sony epic-sson
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quanium said:
This could be a good thing technology wise, and possibly a bad thing software wise. Either way I doubt sony will abandon the open-ness of the android platform as they are using it as part of the marketing ploy currently on the xperia line. Should be good things to come.
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Can you explain to me how it might be a bad thing software wise?
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-3320p3.php
I hate to say... but I don't like it at all... Sony Xperia? Damn... it sounds weird...
Good..
Hopefully we will see some real contenders from se now
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Good..
Hopefully we will see some real contenders from se now
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You did mean Sony...
I do not see as something good... Sony has one of the best security measures in the market... and also we can forget about open source... Sony is just a Japanese Apple, judging from Playstation scene...
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You did mean Sony...
I do not see as something good... Sony has one of the best security measures in the market... and also we can forget about open source... Sony is just a Japanese Apple, judging from Playstation scene...
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I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
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I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
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If they lock up after previously going open, Sony's gonna lose a serious amount of customers.
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If they lock up after previously going open, Sony's gonna lose a serious amount of customers.
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Exactly...
They will follow samsungs suit for sure
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I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
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No Sony will open the pandoras box... they will defend their own stuff. Lock the Bootloader for sure, and introduce encryption. Why?
We all know that Sony for years didn't give to its child SE one thing... Playstation Sources... nobody in the world can emulate PS2/PSP as good as their own creator... we all know that theoretically wise todays phones are PS2 capable if PSP Vita is PS3 graphics capable at the moment... imagine, if your stock Android could run all PSP/PS2 legacy just with proper efficient recompiler? SE experimented with Xperia Play and stepped on Sony's foot, and seems Sony didn't like it, as it can ruin their business with PSP line(inner competition).
Style? Yeah for sure... it was and it will be... SONY has the best design by default... nobody can touch them in that department...
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No Sony will open the pandoras box... they will defend their own stuff. Lock the Bootloader for sure, and introduce encryption. Why?
We all know that Sony for years didn't give to its child SE one thing... Playstation Sources... nobody in the world can emulate PS2/PSP as good as their own creator... we all know that theoretically wise todays phones are PS2 capable if PSP Vita is PS3 graphics capable at the moment... imagine, if your stock Android could run all PSP/PS2 legacy just with proper efficient recompiler? SE experimented with Xperia Play and stepped on Sony's foot, and seems Sony didn't like it, as it can ruin their business with PSP line(inner competition).
Style? Yeah for sure... it was and it will be... SONY has the best design by default... nobody can touch them in that department...
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You're spouting a lot of rumor and opinion as truth.
From what I hear ericsson was the dead weight in that relationship, holding up development and making poor choices.
I think we will in the end see this as a very positive move.
I really think Sony knows better than to bury themselves like you are implying.
Soon, someone is going to make a misinformed post about the whole Sony/PS3/GeoHot thing and how that relates to this situation...
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Which it doesn't, of course.
U know no means to connect PS3 to android its completely different sony made PS3 and its firmware and they want to sell games and keep away piracy from PS3 to earn money...
In android I think its a rule to atleast release the kernel sources...
And they don't want to loose money they are here to earn money and they see every means and techniques to earn money and they will definitely not lock their devices down to loose their money by losing their costumers...
The prices I think will definitely raise
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sahibunlimited said:
U know no means to connect PS3 to android its completely different sony made PS3 and its firmware and they want to sell games and keep away piracy from PS3 to earn money...
In android I think its a rule to atleast release the kernel sources...
And they don't want to loose money they are here to earn money and they see every means and techniques to earn money and they will definitely not lock their devices down to loose their money by losing their costumers...
The prices I think will definitely raise I think
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I doubt the prices will raise, they are already one of the more expensive brands.
The arc costs the same as the sgs2 if i were to buy it from Rogers.
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I doubt the prices will raise, they are already one of the more expensive brands.
The arc costs the same as the sgs2 if i were to buy it from Rogers.
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If I go to normal shop then u are right...
If eBay then
Arc is 2/3 price of sgs2
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I think they will improve their product as they can in order to compete in the market. And Sony's software policy is the same on each platform. Android is not an excuse.
And... We are not objective mates... we are just a bunch of geeks, and mere customers doesn't care about locked/unlocked bootloaders. We are nothing more than a mere minority of the market... definitely not the one on whom money could be made!(except of the habit bricking phones)
No matter what Ericsson is dead again... it is the second time Although its original Semiconductor part is doing great... its next gen CPU is present even on Chinas HTC Sensation(Due TD-SCDMA) and new NovaTHOR platform sounds very good, so we wont forget the name so soon.
The Biggest looser in the market is that old rubber boot maker... SE because the plain redesign using faster CPU, minimized the costs for R/D and etc development to establish new generation of phones for fall season... instead of NOKIA throwing out endless rubbish...
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If I go to normal shop then u are right...
If eBay then
Arc is 2/3 price of sgs2
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Does Samsung has also a policy for selling cheaper phones to poor countries and Asia? That explains why the cost is so different on ebay... they are just gray market phones...? And SGS2 is popular and it keeps the price high...
Sony's smartphone play: Too little, too late <link
*edit/- The views expressed in this article are solely those of Roger Cheng and CNet.
Any response to butthurt incurred by said article should be addressed to him.
sorry guys, had to
look, we are all entitled to our opinions.
However, I am getting tired of all this whining about how Sony will destroy SE's legacy. Sony and Ericsson both helped in the JV, they also could have given more. We will never know cause we don't work for them. but one thing is for sure though, IT'S NO CERTAINTY THAT SONY WILL DESTROY THIS LEGACY. Of course I'm not saying they might or might not, but jeez people, don't write them off without giving them any chance. see what they have to offer then whine. sheesh.
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look, we are all entitled to our opinions.
However, I am getting tired of all this whining about how Sony will destroy SE's legacy. Sony and Ericsson both helped in the JV, they also could have given more. We will never know cause we don't work for them. but one thing is for sure though, IT'S NO CERTAINTY THAT SONY WILL DESTROY THIS LEGACY. Of course I'm not saying they might or might not, but jeez people, don't write them off without giving them any chance. see what they have to offer then whine. sheesh.
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Agreed...
The two of them together were doing a good job failing anyway. Lol
If anything this has the ability to bring them back to the top
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Agreed...
The two of them together were doing a good job failing anyway. Lol
If anything this has the ability to bring them back to the top
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You know what they say when you're at the bottom, there's nowhere to go but up
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Sony Ericsson Xperia = S.E.X
now it's just S.X => .......
If Sony success, you will get awesome phones man. Don't complain about these change.
Today i woke up and checked my mail. I got this mail from my freind in sweden. Hi again Sondre. I got som bad news. Sony Ericsson is no more. Sony bought them out. Which makes our phones a bit "different".
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personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
silvacrest said:
personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
SondreVAIO... Stop posting 1001 threads about the same damn thing. You've done this multiple times with multiple topics.
source? they will be using around and windows mobile and said that while unlikely they may persue buying palm OS from HP.
however this deal does not go through until early 2012 so expect business as usual.
my source...my uncle who works for S.E in sweden
I think I am going to get a Samsung next time I get a new smartphone, If Sony confirmed there not using Android.
I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
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Unless you have an r800x then, like me sadly, you need sony to release some kernel sources for your device, which may never happen, so in some way I agree with you because Im sure a dev in this community will figure the lil ol' r800x out sooner or later
If sony drops android though I will more then likely go back to Droid line up , Im seeing Droid 4 on Lte kinda tempting
But at the same time Im enjoying the challenge of my r800x, it will be defeated!
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I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
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I second that. I'm a bit worried too. Indeed Sony has a history of making very very bad decisions by trying to go their own way and fail.
DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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well....your gonna have to show a link for that, SE mentioned a while ago that 80% of there revenue came from their android phones, why would they jump ship now?
in fact i got a quaot for you from engadget:
"Update: Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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Engadget. go read.
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
Ok here is a source
never mind what I said earlier, But it is important to give a source so that it doesn't cause any confusion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/idUS69098+27-Oct-2011+HUG20111027
RacecarBMW said:
For the millionth time. THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP!
yes that was in caps on purpose.
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If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
216Monster said:
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
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Yes we both will get an extra 250mb.
Logseman said:
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
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all i have to say to you is. your an ass.
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Engadget. go read.
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what? are you spreading bad information on purpose or something?
Engadget pretty much says the exact opposite of what your claiming, sony are ditching feature phones and are going 100% into android
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/...nt-venture-assumes-ownersh/#comment-347181325
lol, pwned
My last phone was the x10 mini pro and i was lied to then and now ive been lied to again.
Sony, i like the idea of gaining hype for an update but only say you will update if you are going to go along with it and don't just drop it on us at the last minute.
My next phone will not be by sony as it has been since the slide phone walkman. (loved that thing)
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timmo15 said:
My last phone was the x10 mini pro and i was lied to then and now ive been lied to again.
Sony, i like the idea of gaining hype for an update but only say you will update if you are going to go along with it and don't just drop it on us at the last minute.
My next phone will not be by sony as it has been since the slide phone walkman. (loved that thing)
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Cool story, bro.
Loved the old walkman phones<3
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I agree.........sony.........sucks so much ballz....... Never again.
Oh, I see how it works. Well in that case;
I'm never buying HTC again, as they stopped supporting my legend after one update
I'm never buying Samsung again because they totally f**ked up the file system on the Galaxy S
I'm never buying Motorola again because the screen in my RAZR broke from a 2 foot drop..while in a case
I'm never buying Apple again because they f**ked up the iOS4 update for the 3g
Etc etc
My point being why not just stop buying phones, since no company is perfect.
I'm not saying that if a phone doesn't work you should stop buying phones from that company. I'm saying that when the company lies to you twice after all the phones you've ever owned were by that company, it's time you moved on.
Maybe the galaxy s3 or the nexus? Any other ideas anyone???
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Yeah they were great. Had the white slide one. Broke it by leaving it in my pocket in the washing machine. Still worked though except for the motion sensor and the speakers were damaged. Traded it in by using tipex on the indicator.
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Feels like banging my head off a brick wall here...
You know, there's a reason we aren't getting ICS. It's not just Sony saying we can't have it. The ICS beta was released so Sony could see what the bugs were. The main bug turned out to be the Touch-pads, or lack thereof, when running ICS.
With the Play being a gaming device, if the Touch-pads don't work then that is a good enough reason not to release it. Sure there's flashable fixes for the Touch-pads but that doesn't work on most of the games. Mainly Gameloft and EA games.
Any anger should be directed towards Gameloft and EA for not wanting to update their code to incorporate the Plays Touch-pads.
It would hurt Sony more to release an update that hampers the main selling point of the device. I understand that it has nothing to do with the main hardware of the Play (RAM etc) and it's all because of the Touch-pads
Let me ask you this: If Microsoft said that they were releasing an OS that looked beautiful but removed support for Mouse and Touchpads (for laptops/Netbooks) would you still want to upgrade?
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Feels like banging my head off a brick wall here...
You know, there's a reason we aren't getting ICS. It's not just Sony saying we can't have it. The ICS beta was released so Sony could see what the bugs were. The main bug turned out to be the Touch-pads, or lack thereof, when running ICS.
With the Play being a gaming device, if the Touch-pads don't work then that is a good enough reason not to release it. Sure there's flashable fixes for the Touch-pads but that doesn't work on most of the games. Mainly Gameloft and EA games.
Any anger should be directed towards Gameloft and EA for not wanting to update their code to incorporate the Plays Touch-pads.
It would hurt Sony more to release an update that hampers the main selling point of the device. I understand that it has nothing to do with the main hardware of the Play (RAM etc) and it's all because of the Touch-pads
Let me ask you this: If Microsoft said that they were releasing an OS that looked beautiful but removed support for Mouse and Touchpads (for laptops/Netbooks) would you still want to upgrade?
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I totally agree with you on this.
I dunno about others but I bought my Xperia Play because of the gamepad. ICS in exchange of my gamepad? Heck NO! I have the ICS looks with my Play on Gin2ICS rom anyway.
Get over it. Its a d*mn phone for god sakes.
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I was owner of x10 mini pro too, I think i never heard Sony (Ericsson) ever promise to update that phone to gingerbread.
I'm not defending Sony here, Sony didn't lie, they promises an update to all xperia 2011 device, and they already done it, except xperia play but it acceptable since it will broke the purpose of the play, they even launch beta version for us, it proof they keep their promises but unfortunately the play decided not receiving the update for it own sake.
Please use spell-check..
Why be loyal to a brand? They don't give two ****s about you, varity is the spice of life
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timmo15 said:
I'm not saying that if a phone doesn't work you should stop buying phones from that company. I'm saying that when the company lies to you twice after all the phones you've ever owned were by that company, it's time you moved on.
Maybe the galaxy s3 or the nexus? Any other ideas anyone???
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i'm agree with you mate
just read my signature...
Sony <3
http://samsunggalaxyandroid.net/201...atlas-hayabusa-and-mint-among-the-highlights/
as you all know Sony projects milestones was leak and there was a project
called "Atlas" so if this is goind to be on the same weight and it is going to be another greek god, XPlay2 "Atlas" is going to be out in sept.
the leaked milestones:
http://www.gsmarena.com/unannounced...ne_prices_and_launch_dates_leak-news-3681.php
Pfft talk about rumour central!
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Technically Atlas was a Titan.
and..there is no xplay 2..it's already been confirmed by sony. There will be no gaming smartphone from sony for years. thank the horrible sales of the 1st play and the vita and the new chain of command sony has gotten. Plus, they just bought sony ericsson this year
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Technically Atlas was a Titan.
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How to you top a God? Titan
I generally don't believe anything Sony or any Company says. I mean many times they deny a product exists and then go and release it. It's very funny actually.
I still think there is an Xperia Play 2 in the future but I don't think it is the Atlas. Look at the price in the rumors.
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and..there is no xplay 2..it's already been confirmed by sony. There will be no gaming smartphone from sony for years. thank the horrible sales of the 1st play and the vita and the new chain of command sony has gotten. Plus, they just bought sony ericsson this year
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I dont think any of the sonys sell alot lol
SONY isn't dumb enough to throw a PlayStation oriented smartphone in the mix it would def send its Vita into an "earlier" grave
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SONY isn't dumb enough to throw a PlayStation oriented smartphone in the mix it would def send its Vita into an "earlier" grave
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Not really . Because it will never compete with kind of experience that you get with the Vita. I'm satisfied with my Xplay because all I really need is emulator games and ocasional android fun titles.
Throwing an Xplay 2 would mean that they actually care about our gaming needs. Let's face it, all the other phones, whatever their hardware might be(quad, octo cores) they will never rival a phone playstation controls or physical controls for that matter. The way I see it, they should try to reduce the bulkiness and make the slider system more like the ones we see on the Nokia's(much more sturdy).
If you make it slimmer, port in some God of War games, make it more sturdy(a gaming device needs that) then people will BUY
Atlas was not a God
The next Xplay 2 will be named Hercules
xperia play 2 = pseidon
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I generally don't believe anything Sony or any Company says. I mean many times they deny a product exists and then go and release it. It's very funny actually.
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As much as I don't believe there is any Xperia Play 2 in the works, I am sure some of you will remember the buzz that preceded the release of PSP GO.
"What? Why would Sony release such a thing? A new PSP a with slide-out gampead and ONLY flash memory and no UMD slot??? They will never do such a thing."
And then - BANG! A video was released on YouTube with PSP GO, even before Sony officially announced the thing. Came as a shock to many, myself included.
Saying that, I still don't believe they have any kind of a new Xperia Play in their plans. The market is in a different situation now from then.
Xperia Play S/HD = DreamOn
Why does everyone keep on dreaming that there will be an XPLAY 2?
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Why does everyone keep on dreaming that there will be an XPLAY 2?
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Because the xperia play rocks. It'll be hard for me to go back to touch screen controls after having this phone
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I feel your pain, but Sony confirmed there are no plans for a successor.
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I feel your pain, but Sony confirmed there are no plans for a successor.
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thats why after my contract done im done with gaming on phones PERIOD because there aint no point in touchscreen controlls. by then ps3(mabe ps4) and i will be reunited since i havent been going near that thing since i got my play
F**K YOU SONY whatever business is business
I sincerely don't belive in these types of rumours, similarities and so on. If it's official, ok, if it's the Sun that will surely kill us in 5 billion years and we must stay in our homes starting form now (speaking about the "Atlas" rumour), it's nonsense.
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I feel your pain, but Sony confirmed there are no plans for a successor.
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Where did they confirm this? All I've seen them say is that they are focused on bringing the playstation experience to other phones in the lineup. They are focusing on the ps certified experience. If anything, this guarantees a successor to the play. It may not be something they are prepared to talk about now (hence denying all rumors to the contrary), but mark my words, it's going to happen.
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