Database Users

Arc vs atrix vs sgs2

Which one you guys think is better? And would buy?
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

really too early to say... need more real life user experiences to see how they perform in the real world..
That said.. Arc for me - cos it looks proper bo.

im_iceman said:
really too early to say... need more real life user experiences to see how they perform in the real world..
That said.. Arc for me - cos it looks proper bo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will have to agree with the ice-man...
It's too early to talk about, however I'm going with the Arc, since my experience with Samsung's software was the worst
Sent from my X10i using XDA Premium App

Make sense since it has 2.3 gingerbread so no one ***** about the update anymore lol. I wish Sony Ericsson was good in update as htc
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

rockingx10 said:
Make sense since it has 2.3 gingerbread so no one ***** about the update anymore lol. I wish Sony Ericsson was good in update as htc
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC has the upper hand since they started first with Android, "HTC Magic G1", so I think they are more experienced than Sony Ericsson, but with time I'm sure SE will catch up hopefully
And you can't stop people from complaining, some complain about 2.4 already

I'll pick Arc for sure. The design is way better than any other competitors. Looking into the released vedio of Arc, the software development capability of SE can be trusted. I think they just need some very little time to catch up.

Sony Ericssons new software design makes sure there is as little 'critical' integration as possible, so they can release updates to the OS or their own apps without having to worry too much about other things breaking. Also, developer Arcs running 2.4 have been spotted, so even while the Arc -and- 2.4 aren't out yet, SE is already working on it.
I personally also think Google really likes Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson is one of the few companies that decided not to release any phones with Windows Phone 7. Samsung and HTC both are also targeting Windows Phone 7 markets. Because of SE's focus on Android, I think they realize they have to do their absolute best now, and I also think Google is slightly favoring them when it comes to developing for the latest version of Android.

Ambroos said:
Sony Ericssons new software design makes sure there is as little 'critical' integration as possible, so they can release updates to the OS or their own apps without having to worry too much about other things breaking. Also, developer Arcs running 2.4 have been spotted, so even while the Arc -and- 2.4 aren't out yet, SE is already working on it.
I personally also think Google really likes Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson is one of the few companies that decided not to release any phones with Windows Phone 7. Samsung and HTC both are also targeting Windows Phone 7 markets. Because of SE's focus on Android, I think they realize they have to do their absolute best now, and I also think Google is slightly favoring them when it comes to developing for the latest version of Android.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is that just your opinion - or have you experience, contacts within SE or Google that have said this to you??

im_iceman said:
Is that just your opinion - or have you experience, contacts within SE or Google that have said this to you??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just my thoughts, carefully formed by what I read and see about Google and Sony Ericsson, and further backed up by pure logic ^^

Ambroos said:
Just my thoughts, carefully formed by what I read and see about Google and Sony Ericsson, and further backed up by pure logic ^^
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I remember reading a while back google approached SE to design their nexus phone and SE was not interested.
Imagine if SE's Arc is actually Nexus S? I think it would have been more successful than the ugly design done by Samsung.

kitsVA said:
I remember reading a while back google approached SE to design their nexus phone and SE was not interested.
Imagine if SE's Arc is actually Nexus S? I think it would have been more successful than the ugly design done by Samsung.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't even think they tried, to be honest. Sony Ericsson has always tried to differentiate with their very own style of software. Every Sony Ericsson-device ever released has a very distinct Sony Ericsson-feel, if you know what I mean. With a Nexus phone they'd have to completely drop all software changes and just provide the hardware. They couldn't add some Walkman or Cybershot stuff, no BRAVIA engine, nothing, since it'd all have to be stock Android. And that is something Sony Ericsson just doesn't even want to do. (It's also why they ditched Windows Phone 7)

Atrix, of course

Imo : None of them.
If you got a 1ghz Smartphone atm,dont change it.
Why ?
1)Arc has also a 1ghz CPU like the others,yes it will be a bit faster but nothing from the other world.
2)SGS2 and Atrix sound very sexy but they are very expensive.
3)Quad-core Tables coming into August,and mobiles phones a bit later. So you'll gonna have to refresh phone again in 4-6 months =p
I am sticking to the X10 for now,im gonna skip the "Dual-Cores" and wait directly for the quads if i buy a new phone...besides...a mobile phone with quad-core cpu's....where the hell are we going?. Im seeing a Mobile Phones crisis coming...people are not gonna be able to keep up buying phones one after another if they are outdated in less than 5 months...jeesus...
That said,the SGS2 has more than double the power of the Arc,so that tells it all.
Respect.

The King is dead. Long live the King...

http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-3320p3.php
I hate to say... but I don't like it at all... Sony Xperia? Damn... it sounds weird...

Good..
Hopefully we will see some real contenders from se now

scoobysnacks said:
Good..
Hopefully we will see some real contenders from se now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You did mean Sony...
I do not see as something good... Sony has one of the best security measures in the market... and also we can forget about open source... Sony is just a Japanese Apple, judging from Playstation scene...

Ferrum Master said:
You did mean Sony...
I do not see as something good... Sony has one of the best security measures in the market... and also we can forget about open source... Sony is just a Japanese Apple, judging from Playstation scene...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.

scoobysnacks said:
I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If they lock up after previously going open, Sony's gonna lose a serious amount of customers.

Frosty666 said:
If they lock up after previously going open, Sony's gonna lose a serious amount of customers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly...
They will follow samsungs suit for sure

scoobysnacks said:
I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No Sony will open the pandoras box... they will defend their own stuff. Lock the Bootloader for sure, and introduce encryption. Why?
We all know that Sony for years didn't give to its child SE one thing... Playstation Sources... nobody in the world can emulate PS2/PSP as good as their own creator... we all know that theoretically wise todays phones are PS2 capable if PSP Vita is PS3 graphics capable at the moment... imagine, if your stock Android could run all PSP/PS2 legacy just with proper efficient recompiler? SE experimented with Xperia Play and stepped on Sony's foot, and seems Sony didn't like it, as it can ruin their business with PSP line(inner competition).
Style? Yeah for sure... it was and it will be... SONY has the best design by default... nobody can touch them in that department...

Ferrum Master said:
No Sony will open the pandoras box... they will defend their own stuff. Lock the Bootloader for sure, and introduce encryption. Why?
We all know that Sony for years didn't give to its child SE one thing... Playstation Sources... nobody in the world can emulate PS2/PSP as good as their own creator... we all know that theoretically wise todays phones are PS2 capable if PSP Vita is PS3 graphics capable at the moment... imagine, if your stock Android could run all PSP/PS2 legacy just with proper efficient recompiler? SE experimented with Xperia Play and stepped on Sony's foot, and seems Sony didn't like it, as it can ruin their business with PSP line(inner competition).
Style? Yeah for sure... it was and it will be... SONY has the best design by default... nobody can touch them in that department...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're spouting a lot of rumor and opinion as truth.
From what I hear ericsson was the dead weight in that relationship, holding up development and making poor choices.
I think we will in the end see this as a very positive move.
I really think Sony knows better than to bury themselves like you are implying.

Soon, someone is going to make a misinformed post about the whole Sony/PS3/GeoHot thing and how that relates to this situation...
EDIT:
Which it doesn't, of course.

U know no means to connect PS3 to android its completely different sony made PS3 and its firmware and they want to sell games and keep away piracy from PS3 to earn money...
In android I think its a rule to atleast release the kernel sources...
And they don't want to loose money they are here to earn money and they see every means and techniques to earn money and they will definitely not lock their devices down to loose their money by losing their costumers...
The prices I think will definitely raise
Sent from my X10i using xda premium

sahibunlimited said:
U know no means to connect PS3 to android its completely different sony made PS3 and its firmware and they want to sell games and keep away piracy from PS3 to earn money...
In android I think its a rule to atleast release the kernel sources...
And they don't want to loose money they are here to earn money and they see every means and techniques to earn money and they will definitely not lock their devices down to loose their money by losing their costumers...
The prices I think will definitely raise I think
Sent from my X10i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt the prices will raise, they are already one of the more expensive brands.
The arc costs the same as the sgs2 if i were to buy it from Rogers.

scoobysnacks said:
I doubt the prices will raise, they are already one of the more expensive brands.
The arc costs the same as the sgs2 if i were to buy it from Rogers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I go to normal shop then u are right...
If eBay then
Arc is 2/3 price of sgs2
Sent from my X10i using xda premium

I think they will improve their product as they can in order to compete in the market. And Sony's software policy is the same on each platform. Android is not an excuse.
And... We are not objective mates... we are just a bunch of geeks, and mere customers doesn't care about locked/unlocked bootloaders. We are nothing more than a mere minority of the market... definitely not the one on whom money could be made!(except of the habit bricking phones)
No matter what Ericsson is dead again... it is the second time Although its original Semiconductor part is doing great... its next gen CPU is present even on Chinas HTC Sensation(Due TD-SCDMA) and new NovaTHOR platform sounds very good, so we wont forget the name so soon.
The Biggest looser in the market is that old rubber boot maker... SE because the plain redesign using faster CPU, minimized the costs for R/D and etc development to establish new generation of phones for fall season... instead of NOKIA throwing out endless rubbish...

sahibunlimited said:
If I go to normal shop then u are right...
If eBay then
Arc is 2/3 price of sgs2
Sent from my X10i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does Samsung has also a policy for selling cheaper phones to poor countries and Asia? That explains why the cost is so different on ebay... they are just gray market phones...? And SGS2 is popular and it keeps the price high...

Sony's smartphone play: Too little, too late <link
*edit/- The views expressed in this article are solely those of Roger Cheng and CNet.
Any response to butthurt incurred by said article should be addressed to him.
sorry guys, had to

look, we are all entitled to our opinions.
However, I am getting tired of all this whining about how Sony will destroy SE's legacy. Sony and Ericsson both helped in the JV, they also could have given more. We will never know cause we don't work for them. but one thing is for sure though, IT'S NO CERTAINTY THAT SONY WILL DESTROY THIS LEGACY. Of course I'm not saying they might or might not, but jeez people, don't write them off without giving them any chance. see what they have to offer then whine. sheesh.

NoTnERb said:
look, we are all entitled to our opinions.
However, I am getting tired of all this whining about how Sony will destroy SE's legacy. Sony and Ericsson both helped in the JV, they also could have given more. We will never know cause we don't work for them. but one thing is for sure though, IT'S NO CERTAINTY THAT SONY WILL DESTROY THIS LEGACY. Of course I'm not saying they might or might not, but jeez people, don't write them off without giving them any chance. see what they have to offer then whine. sheesh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed...
The two of them together were doing a good job failing anyway. Lol
If anything this has the ability to bring them back to the top

scoobysnacks said:
Agreed...
The two of them together were doing a good job failing anyway. Lol
If anything this has the ability to bring them back to the top
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You know what they say when you're at the bottom, there's nowhere to go but up
Sent from my mark 5 exoskeleton suit

Sony Ericsson Xperia = S.E.X
now it's just S.X => .......

If Sony success, you will get awesome phones man. Don't complain about these change.

Bye Sony Ericsson. Hello Sony. And hello Ericsson

Today i woke up and checked my mail. I got this mail from my freind in sweden. Hi again Sondre. I got som bad news. Sony Ericsson is no more. Sony bought them out. Which makes our phones a bit "different".
Post your comment below
Sent from my R800i using xda premium

personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)

silvacrest said:
personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.

SondreVAIO... Stop posting 1001 threads about the same damn thing. You've done this multiple times with multiple topics.

source? they will be using around and windows mobile and said that while unlikely they may persue buying palm OS from HP.
however this deal does not go through until early 2012 so expect business as usual.
my source...my uncle who works for S.E in sweden

I think I am going to get a Samsung next time I get a new smartphone, If Sony confirmed there not using Android.

I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.

who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.

DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...

jutley said:
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unless you have an r800x then, like me sadly, you need sony to release some kernel sources for your device, which may never happen, so in some way I agree with you because Im sure a dev in this community will figure the lil ol' r800x out sooner or later
If sony drops android though I will more then likely go back to Droid line up , Im seeing Droid 4 on Lte kinda tempting
But at the same time Im enjoying the challenge of my r800x, it will be defeated!

TLRtheory said:
I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second that. I'm a bit worried too. Indeed Sony has a history of making very very bad decisions by trying to go their own way and fail.

DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well....your gonna have to show a link for that, SE mentioned a while ago that 80% of there revenue came from their android phones, why would they jump ship now?
in fact i got a quaot for you from engadget:
"Update: Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."

hairdewx said:
Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Engadget. go read.

Engadget seems to prove you wrong...

Ok here is a source
never mind what I said earlier, But it is important to give a source so that it doesn't cause any confusion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/idUS69098+27-Oct-2011+HUG20111027

RacecarBMW said:
For the millionth time. THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP!
yes that was in caps on purpose.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...

216Monster said:
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes we both will get an extra 250mb.

Logseman said:
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
all i have to say to you is. your an ass.

DeanBoro said:
Engadget. go read.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what? are you spreading bad information on purpose or something?
Engadget pretty much says the exact opposite of what your claiming, sony are ditching feature phones and are going 100% into android
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/...nt-venture-assumes-ownersh/#comment-347181325

lol, pwned

XPlay was "Zeus" XPlay2 "Atlas" another Greek god

http://samsunggalaxyandroid.net/201...atlas-hayabusa-and-mint-among-the-highlights/
as you all know Sony projects milestones was leak and there was a project
called "Atlas" so if this is goind to be on the same weight and it is going to be another greek god, XPlay2 "Atlas" is going to be out in sept.
the leaked milestones:
http://www.gsmarena.com/unannounced...ne_prices_and_launch_dates_leak-news-3681.php

Pfft talk about rumour central!
Sent from my R800a using XDA App

Technically Atlas was a Titan.

and..there is no xplay 2..it's already been confirmed by sony. There will be no gaming smartphone from sony for years. thank the horrible sales of the 1st play and the vita and the new chain of command sony has gotten. Plus, they just bought sony ericsson this year

ridder215215 said:
Technically Atlas was a Titan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How to you top a God? Titan

I generally don't believe anything Sony or any Company says. I mean many times they deny a product exists and then go and release it. It's very funny actually.
I still think there is an Xperia Play 2 in the future but I don't think it is the Atlas. Look at the price in the rumors.

agraceful said:
and..there is no xplay 2..it's already been confirmed by sony. There will be no gaming smartphone from sony for years. thank the horrible sales of the 1st play and the vita and the new chain of command sony has gotten. Plus, they just bought sony ericsson this year
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont think any of the sonys sell alot lol

SONY isn't dumb enough to throw a PlayStation oriented smartphone in the mix it would def send its Vita into an "earlier" grave

luis12285 said:
SONY isn't dumb enough to throw a PlayStation oriented smartphone in the mix it would def send its Vita into an "earlier" grave
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really . Because it will never compete with kind of experience that you get with the Vita. I'm satisfied with my Xplay because all I really need is emulator games and ocasional android fun titles.
Throwing an Xplay 2 would mean that they actually care about our gaming needs. Let's face it, all the other phones, whatever their hardware might be(quad, octo cores) they will never rival a phone playstation controls or physical controls for that matter. The way I see it, they should try to reduce the bulkiness and make the slider system more like the ones we see on the Nokia's(much more sturdy).
If you make it slimmer, port in some God of War games, make it more sturdy(a gaming device needs that) then people will BUY

Atlas was not a God

The next Xplay 2 will be named Hercules

xperia play 2 = pseidon

RacecarBMW said:
I generally don't believe anything Sony or any Company says. I mean many times they deny a product exists and then go and release it. It's very funny actually.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As much as I don't believe there is any Xperia Play 2 in the works, I am sure some of you will remember the buzz that preceded the release of PSP GO.
"What? Why would Sony release such a thing? A new PSP a with slide-out gampead and ONLY flash memory and no UMD slot??? They will never do such a thing."
And then - BANG! A video was released on YouTube with PSP GO, even before Sony officially announced the thing. Came as a shock to many, myself included.
Saying that, I still don't believe they have any kind of a new Xperia Play in their plans. The market is in a different situation now from then.

Xperia Play S/HD = DreamOn

Why does everyone keep on dreaming that there will be an XPLAY 2?

narflynn619 said:
Why does everyone keep on dreaming that there will be an XPLAY 2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because the xperia play rocks. It'll be hard for me to go back to touch screen controls after having this phone
Sent from my R800x using Tapatalk 2

I feel your pain, but Sony confirmed there are no plans for a successor.

narflynn619 said:
I feel your pain, but Sony confirmed there are no plans for a successor.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats why after my contract done im done with gaming on phones PERIOD because there aint no point in touchscreen controlls. by then ps3(mabe ps4) and i will be reunited since i havent been going near that thing since i got my play
F**K YOU SONY whatever business is business

I sincerely don't belive in these types of rumours, similarities and so on. If it's official, ok, if it's the Sun that will surely kill us in 5 billion years and we must stay in our homes starting form now (speaking about the "Atlas" rumour), it's nonsense.

narflynn619 said:
I feel your pain, but Sony confirmed there are no plans for a successor.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where did they confirm this? All I've seen them say is that they are focused on bringing the playstation experience to other phones in the lineup. They are focusing on the ps certified experience. If anything, this guarantees a successor to the play. It may not be something they are prepared to talk about now (hence denying all rumors to the contrary), but mark my words, it's going to happen.
Sent from my R800x using XDA

And Sony's big "fun" surprise is...

....The Xperia Miro... the "fun" social smartphone....... *cue the Price is Right "loser" music*
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/sony-xperia-miro/

"Only slated for release in Europe" wow Sony, wow. Even though the phone is crap, you could at least have the decency to not hype it in America then say, "oh sorry, I didn't mean that you would get anything fun"

Oh God! That's the last thing this world needs is a stupid social smartphone
Sent from my R800a using XDA App

WTF ! another ****ty smartphone !
Havent they made enough of these ? they all the fricking same

sufy1000 said:
WTF ! another ****ty smartphone !
Havent they made enough of these ? they all the fricking same
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Make your own superphone instead of saying that phone is ****ty.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2

AudioCreaper said:
Make your own superphone instead of saying that phone is ****ty.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obviously I cant but what i'm saying is that Sony are just releasing the same phone over and over again only improving MINOR things.
I thought a surprise would be a completely new phone with a QUAD CORE processor and 4.8'' screen like the Samsung Galaxy S3.
When are we gonna see MAJOR changes ?

sufy1000 said:
Obviously I cant but what i'm saying is that Sony are just releasing the same phone over and over again only improving MINOR things.
I thought a surprise would be a completely new phone with a QUAD CORE processor and 4.8'' screen like the Samsung Galaxy S3.
When are we gonna see MAJOR changes ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's not much we can do about sony's decisions. If they want to do what htc did in 2011 and release alot of phones that has minor differences, its their loss if they fail.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2

sufy1000 said:
Obviously I cant but what i'm saying is that Sony are just releasing the same phone over and over again only improving MINOR things.
I thought a surprise would be a completely new phone with a QUAD CORE processor and 4.8'' screen like the Samsung Galaxy S3.
When are we gonna see MAJOR changes ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want something like the S3 then get the S3.
Sony wouldn't do that as they don't have enough marketing influence to sell something like that
CyanogenMod 9 Xperia Play
FreeXperia Project

Pax close this thread please. This discussion has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE XPERIA PLAY.

So Sony's plan is to release as much devices as possible, Like HTC *once* did.

KeiranFTW said:
If you want something like the S3 then get the S3.
Sony wouldn't do that as they don't have enough marketing influence to sell something like that
CyanogenMod 9 Xperia Play
FreeXperia Project
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree.. When you think of "Heavy Hitters" in the industry, Sony doesn't rank up there. At least not in the US.
Maybe it was the taboo of being once associated with Ericsson and Ericsson's shoddy equipment back in ATTWS's TDMA days.

sufy1000 said:
Obviously I cant but what i'm saying is that Sony are just releasing the same phone over and over again only improving MINOR things.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreex1
That's what Sony always do on all products...

Thread Closed, doesn't have to do with the Xperia Play
Pax
FSM Sony Ericsson Xperia Play