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g2 stability

im sure we've all had complaints about loose hinges and how strong and stable this phone is. coming from a g1 and being a mechanic, i put my phone through some serious strains including: full multiple water submerging, falling from third floor, banging aginst walls and through all this i had no cracked screens, broken malfunctioning or missing buttons. note: i didnt do any of these on purpose.
Now with the g2 that i bought from radio shack, i managed to shake the hinge ridiculously and it didnt fall apart and WW3 didnt ensue, considering how everyone is having problems with this phone, you have two options
1: return the phone and get another type of phone
2: stick with the phone, buy a body glove and screen protector and wait for root
i cant really comment about software, signal, reboots, and other problems like that because i havent experienced any of this. but as far as how strong the phone is, my personal experience is pretty damn good
p.s. the hinge is slightly overrated considering it doesnt just slide out instead it slides up and then out. my point being if it just slid out then it would warrant more of a need to worry. but this is my personal opinion and expirience

I've been using my G2 for about five or so days, and I haven't had any reboots, freezes, slow-downs, or anything along those lines.
The Z-hinge on mine seems OK. It does open when I hold the phone facing down, but that's really not how I plan on using my G2. It doesn't open/close during any sort of "normal" use, and that works for me. I can see how it would be an issue for some, but it simply isn't for me.
I also don't care about the internal memory, as that wasn't why I got the phone. It wasn't the selling point for me, and I don't like storing things on my phone's internal memory. The 8GB micro SC is plenty enough for most realistic scenarios, and certainly more than enough for me.
To those who are debating whether or not they want this phone: do yourself a favor and go to a local T-Mobile retail store and check it out for yourself. Don't settle on other peoples' opinion. I think that you'll conclude that the pros far outweigh the cons.

I am on my second G2 with the third on the way due to multiple issues. These issues include loose hinges(more about that in a minute) very poor reception to no reception in exact same areas where My Vibrant and Nexus One get good reception,and the black screen random shutting down issues as well as dropping calls. The loose hinge issue was not a big factor for me until I purchased the gel skin and hard case from T Mobile. With these cases on the phone it just slides open as you pick it up or handle it at all. With all that being said I do like the phone and hate to give up on it. I am hoping the current OTA will address the reception and dropping calls issues. IMO this is an excellent phone that could and hopefully will be a Super phone. My biggest concern is that as each day goes by more black screen issues etc come up, Mine just happened today after 4 days of use.

tenbeau said:
I am on my second G2 with the third on the way due to multiple issues. These issues include loose hinges(more about that in a minute) very poor reception to no reception in exact same areas where My Vibrant and Nexus One get good reception,and the black screen random shutting down issues as well as dropping calls. The loose hinge issue was not a big factor for me until I purchased the gel skin and hard case from T Mobile. With these cases on the phone it just slides open as you pick it up or handle it at all. With all that being said I do like the phone and hate to give up on it. I am hoping the current OTA will address the reception and dropping calls issues. IMO this is an excellent phone that could and hopefully will be a Super phone. My biggest concern is that as each day goes by more black screen issues etc come up, Mine just happened today after 4 days of use.
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I don't mean to come off as a G2 fanboy, but it sounds to me more like you're doing something to cause the black screens, not the phone.
I haven't heard of anyone having "black screen random shutting down" issues and I've never experienced anything like it myself.
What apps are you using? It's possible you're using an unstable application that's crashing the phone.

xencor said:
I don't mean to come off as a G2 fanboy, but it sounds to me more like you're doing something to cause the black screens, not the phone.
I haven't heard of anyone having "black screen random shutting down" issues and I've never experienced anything like it myself.
What apps are you using? It's possible you're using an unstable application that's crashing the phone.
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I can confirm having this same issue, not using any out of the normal software or even any of the temp root stuff. Also apps like twitter and webbrowser will forceclose over and over again until I reboot the phone.

xencor said:
I don't mean to come off as a G2 fanboy, but it sounds to me more like you're doing something to cause the black screens, not the phone.
I haven't heard of anyone having "black screen random shutting down" issues and I've never experienced anything like it myself.
What apps are you using? It's possible you're using an unstable application that's crashing the phone.
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this is a real problem
happens to me once a day or so with completely stock g2 and just a few apps from the market

wow its really messed up that you guys are having this problem because this phone is really damn great. quick question though. where did u guys buy yours?
i got mine from radio shack and no problem for me.
my thoughts are a possibility of a bad batch, just like how some hinges are loose and some arent.
new contract
sellers:
1: t-mobile store $264 ($50 mail in rebate bull crap)
2: t-mobile shipment (same as above)
3:radio shack ($149.99 no more no less)
4: amazon online ($199)
5: wirefly ($99)

xencor said:
I don't mean to come off as a G2 fanboy, but it sounds to me more like you're doing something to cause the black screens, not the phone.
I haven't heard of anyone having "black screen random shutting down" issues and I've never experienced anything like it myself.
What apps are you using? It's possible you're using an unstable application that's crashing the phone.
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I have the stock apps that come with the phone and a couple of others that I have uninstalled and reinstalled and they are not the problem. I know some people have a hard time accepting that this phone has issues on a widespread basis. Each day it seems that another issue just seems to pop up, but once again let me say that I do like this phone and hate to give up on it. I just hope that the OTA that is supposed to being rolled out will fix all or the majority of the issues.

Reboots, freezing and black screens are well documented and widespread. It's always happens in low/no signal area, someone said their log showed that it hangs on some audio libs. In any case, I hope that upcoming OTA will fix that (it does include new radio).
Hinges IMHO are not as bad as people make them out to be, at least not to me.

g2 problems

i just watched my phone restart no less than 15 times. every time the phone comes on the screen is flickering at the g2 tmobile screen be4 the os loads. wtf? it hasnt been dropped or got wet.. not a scratch on it

Happens. Happend to me once and never happend again. Solution was pulling the batter off for 1 min then powerin back up
Sent from my HTC Vision G2

ill give that a shot. its ****ing pissing me off

from tmobile regarding the "loose hinges":
After investigating various hinge tension settings to find the best user experience, HTC engineered the T-Mobile G2 in such a way that it can be easily opened and closed with just one finger. While this tension level may let the phone open on its own if held in an inverse position, this does not represent a defect in the hinge mechanism.
regarding the random restarts:
As for the phone randomly restarting this is a known issue and is being researched for resolution. I would need to transfer you to our Technical Care Department for further assistance.

cbmm said:
from tmobile regarding the "loose hinges":
After investigating various hinge tension settings to find the best user experience, HTC engineered the T-Mobile G2 in such a way that it can be easily opened and closed with just one finger. While this tension level may let the phone open on its own if held in an inverse position, this does not represent a defect in the hinge mechanism.if it smell like..$#@t it must be BS!!!!
regarding the random restarts:
As for the phone randomly restarting this is a known issue and is being researched for resolution. I would need to transfer you to our Technical Care Department for further assistance.I got the same thing from them....tech support actually tried to tell me that I installed something that conflicts with the phone....I said PLEASE!!!!
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On a side note, I OC'ed my phone using the VISIONary temp root and and I am running @ 1.42 Mhz, and this this thing is not only flying, but I no longer have reboots, or at least as frequent. I had one today, but it was after it had dropped back to 800 Mhz, and the batt was somewhere around 25%...this maybe due to the profiles I have set....as the batt dwindles down, I am gutting down on the power requirements to conserve batt.
2nd side note....my first G2 got stuck a few time on reboot on the G2 screen as you mentioned.....they replaced that one without any objections.
As for the OTA, Tech Suppoirt does not ahve any news nor knowledge that one is coming out. They actually referred me to TMONews.com to see what is developing....lol...they refered me to a blog!!! SAD!!!!

Orale.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I think I figured out the random reboots with the help of some others.. here out my story. So me and my best friend both have G2's. Love the phone btw. he has never had a random reboot until this day and I allways get them. I live in a basement and he lives in a house with perfect reception. I am pretty certain it has something to do with the reception going in and out. he came over the other day and we were hanging out at my house and his phone random rebooted for the first time ever.. and I allways get them because most of the time I am down here. But when I am out and about for the day above level lol.. I never get them.. or RARELY get them. Hinges have been fine for the both of us also. Other than that I love the phone.. HOpfully with the OTA update I heard about will fix that because I hear the update includes a new radio update.. and last time the radio update REALLY Fixed my reception issues with the G1 in my basement.. SO can't wait for that. Thanx a lot for reading

[Q] USA t-mobile Connectivity Issues

I'm on T mobile in the usa and I'm using Nand Android, Hyper Droid CM7 2.01. I'am having issues with losing signal in areas I know I have coverage in but only shortly. It randomly goes in and out. I know this is an issue with TmoUSA. I was wondering if anyone in the usa uses a rom that does not have this issue or a solution? Thanks in advance for any help

I haven't noticed it in coredroid v1.6 but higher battery drain and more eye candy. Cymlx and the others were tested and had drops also.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

Yes, TMOUSA service drops in NYC area.
I'm glad you posted this question. I'm using Typhoon CM7 MADLDR (always the latest version) and notice a few day ago a radical drop in connectivity on TMOUSA in NYC Metro area. I spent the last couple of days revisiting all the reception points from SD ROM days (verifying APN, Phone setting in "WCDMA Preferred", searching network, etc) with no luck. Now with your post I think it may have been a system problem with TMobile all along.
It seems like the signal does not have as much strength as just a few days ago. I used to get full bars inside a building, but now no service. Out in the street I get random signal drops. Im not getting service in areas I know I used to get service before. I dont think it is ROM related, as it happened before I ugraded to 3.3.8.
Data is also very unreliable. In area's I had "H" or "3G", I'm only getting "E", or nothing.
Anyone hear of system issues with TMobile USA, northeast.
Edit- I've been using 2.15.50.14 Radio since the beginning of Android on my HD2.

I'm getting random drops, MAGDLR 1.13, Hyperdroid GBXv12. Southwest (AZ) I change to 2.15 radio, seems to have help slightly. I don't get complete dropouts of signal as often anymore, but seems unstable, going from 5bars to 2 bars. and constant switching between 3G and Edge.
Let me mention that my original HD2 was fine. My touch screen went out. After about a month to a month and a half of trying to figure it out (swapped, digitizer, didn't work, swapped digitizer+LCD, didn't work, swapped out motherboard, worked) I finally got it working again. I'm not sure if it's the different mother board that's causing my issues or if it just coincidentally coincided with some network issues TMo US's network has been having. (I did restore the phone to all my previous settings and radio ROMs)

I've had this problem for like two months or so. Its definitly my hd2 android cause I'll be around other people on T mobile and they may not have full bars but they with be pull 3g where I'm on E or nothing at all.

I figured out that my bad conectivity issues were caused by hardware problem. I say "were" because I fixed it.
It's a bad antenna connection. I realized I had a similar signal problems on my touch pro, caused by the main board contacts not touching the antenna pads on the back cover. I found pictures of a disassembled HD2 here on XDA and saw the same design. I removed the back of my HD2 and sure enough one of the contacts was bent low and not touching the antenna. I bent it back up, reassembled the HD2, and restored full bars!!
I think the contact was flattened when I dropped my phone.
Trust me, it's a very simple fix. I'll start a thread with instruction and and pictures if anyone wants it. There's an HD2 disassembly video and pictures available here: http://m.pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked . You only need to take off the back 4 screws and pry off the back with a flat plastic stick .
I'm writing this now on my HD2 connected by T-Mobile whete previously I had no signal.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

nonpaq said:
I figured out that my bad conectivity issues were caused by hardware problem. I say "were" because I fixed it.
It's a bad antenna connection. I realized I had a similar signal problems on my touch pro, caused by the main board contacts not touching the antenna pads on the back cover. I found pictures of a disassembled HD2 here on XDA and saw the same design. I removed the back of my HD2 and sure enough one of the contacts was bent low and not touching the antenna. I bent it back up, reassembled the HD2, and restored full bars!!
I think the contact was flattened when I dropped my phone.
Trust me, it's a very simple fix. I'll start a thread with instruction and and pictures if anyone wants it. There's an HD2 disassembly video and pictures available here: http://m.pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked . You only need to take off the back 4 screws and pry off the back with a flat plastic stick .
I'm writing this now on my HD2 connected by T-Mobile whete previously I had no signal.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
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nonpaq,
You could have the answer I'm looking for! I've been posting all over the place looking for knowledgeable input on this exact issue (including here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15423321&postcount=20).
As I mentioned in that post, after spending countless hours doing software-related troubleshooting to no avail, it occurred to me that there might be an internal problem with the phone. The problem is-- and quite unbelievably, considering all the other numerous resources for this device-- there isn't a whole lot of hard documentation on the HD2 cellular antenna circuitry. There's a bunch on the GPS lead, Bluetooth, WiFi, etc., but nothing on the main radio. The "official" HTC vids referenced above I've watched over a dozen times--nothing in there. All the HD2 tear-down threads with photos inconveniently ignore this part of the hardware. There's even 1 or 2 threads here on XDA in which I discovered someone erroneously labeled as the Antenna a part which is actually the Camera flash circuit.
I had pretty much exhausted everything and was about to give up, but your post could prove to be the light at the end of the tunnel.
So, before I relegate my phone to the recycling heap or sell it for parts, maybe you can journal the steps from your successful antenna "fix" (and some accompanying photos would truly be magnificent). BTW, I don't need fourteen pages of detail, just fleshing out the major points would do...
Not only would you be helping me immensely, but I've found quite a few others here on the boards with the same problem, therefore a lot of people would benefit from this guidance.
Many thanks in advance!

nonpaq said:
I figured out that my bad conectivity issues were caused by hardware problem. I say "were" because I fixed it.
It's a bad antenna connection. I realized I had a similar signal problems on my touch pro, caused by the main board contacts not touching the antenna pads on the back cover. I found pictures of a disassembled HD2 here on XDA and saw the same design. I removed the back of my HD2 and sure enough one of the contacts was bent low and not touching the antenna. I bent it back up, reassembled the HD2, and restored full bars!!
I think the contact was flattened when I dropped my phone.
Trust me, it's a very simple fix. I'll start a thread with instruction and and pictures if anyone wants it. There's an HD2 disassembly video and pictures available here: http://m.pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked . You only need to take off the back 4 screws and pry off the back with a flat plastic stick .
I'm writing this now on my HD2 connected by T-Mobile whete previously I had no signal.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
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I live in Dallas and I have been noticing the same thing for the last few months, thinking it was HyperDroid CM7 or maybe the radio 2.15 but I'm hoping this is what the issue for me is too. Will update and post tonight or over the weekend.

nonpaq
Thanks for all the input. I starting to think its a hardware issue like some have mention. I've change many roms, os and, radio to no avail. So that the only thing it could be, and I have dropped my phone a few times. nonpaq if you could please grace us with a simple tutorial, it would be greatly appreciated.

Bump nonpaq help please

I'm sorry I wasn't following this thread, so I didn't realize there was interest. I am on my phone now so I don't have access to photos to upload. Its actually a very easy fix on the HD2 because this phone is so easy to open. I will look for teardown photos to point out the antenna posts, and baring that I will just redo mine and take photos. Stay tuned.
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OK, I started a new thread to cover in more detail what I did for the hardware fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16076515#post16076515

DeathGrip issue

Hi everyone,
Bought my SNS i9023 on 12 July 2011 (Indian version)
I'v been noticing a possible DeathGrip Issue with the phone since i bought it. The WiFi Signal & the Network Signal fade out quite a lot when i Hold the phone in my palm (the battery cover i.e. the the back side of my phone rests in my palm)
I wonder if I am the only one facing this issue or are others facing this issue as well.

I for one have never noticed this, and I've had mines for about 3 months now. Maybe you should try to get it exchanged.

Well I'm guessing your hands are covering the antennae of the phone (built into the mobo of the phone) every phone willlose signal is the bones in your hand (our any other solid thing) block the antennae. My 2¢ worth.
abhinavsg said:
Hi everyone,
Bought my SNS i9023 on 12 July 2011 (Indian version)
I'v been noticing a possible DeathGrip Issue with the phone since i bought it. The WiFi Signal & the Network Signal fade out quite a lot when i Hold the phone in my palm (the battery cover i.e. the the back side of my phone rests in my palm)
I wonder if I am the only one facing this issue or are others facing this issue as well.
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Boom... Headshot! from my L96A1

xceleration said:
I for one have never noticed this, and I've had mines for about 3 months now. Maybe you should try to get it exchanged.
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fowenati said:
Well I'm guessing your hands are covering the antennae of the phone (built into the mobo of the phone) every phone willlose signal is the bones in your hand (our any other solid thing) block the antennae. My 2¢ worth.
Boom... Headshot! from my L96A1
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I m pretty sure my hands are blocking the signal coz of the way i hold the phone. would love to see a lot of other people responding to this thread

I have a similar problem but I think it might be a problem with the device so I'll need to send it back.
My connection drops a couple of times a day. I thought it may have been related to the case I use but I tried it without the case and I have the same problems.
How is your wireless signal? My Nexus S is much worse than my Nexus 1 so that's why I think (hope!) the phone is faulty. Hopefully it's not just a Samsung thing.

pugland said:
I have a similar problem but I think it might be a problem with the device so I'll need to send it back.
My connection drops a couple of times a day. I thought it may have been related to the case I use but I tried it without the case and I have the same problems.
How is your wireless signal? My Nexus S is much worse than my Nexus 1 so that's why I think (hope!) the phone is faulty. Hopefully it's not just a Samsung thing.
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In my case the Connection to the MobileNetwork/WiFi does not drop by itself.
The connection becomes weak only if i hold the bottom half of the back of the phone in my plam. I mean if the bottom half of the back of the phone is covered by my palm (my palm & phone in total contact).
I dont have any problems if I am holding the phone in a way that the back of the phone is not covered by my palm.
When the phone is left alone, there is no fluctuation in the connections whatsoever.

abhinavsg said:
Hi everyone,
Bought my SNS i9023 on 12 July 2011 (Indian version)
I'v been noticing a possible DeathGrip Issue with the phone since i bought it. The WiFi Signal & the Network Signal fade out quite a lot when i Hold the phone in my palm (the battery cover i.e. the the back side of my phone rests in my palm)
I wonder if I am the only one facing this issue or are others facing this issue as well.
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You'll have more luck here
http://www.iphoneforums.net/forum/iphone-general-discussion-12/

GPS Problems? Poor Reception? Accessories to Blame?

Just a heads up to anyone experiencing GPS and or reception issues, if you have any aftermarket accessories, be conscious that they may be the cause of your problems.
I've had GPS not been able to lock for a while now, and it turns out that the sole cause of this was an aftermarket metal battery cover. As soon as I put back the stock plastic one, I got a full 8 satellite lock within 20 seconds.
Any metal case, cover, bumper, etc could be having a negative impact on your reception and or GPS. This was definitely the case for my I9100

Yes! can confirm this I had the same issue a while back.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

akaleshnikov said:
Just a heads up to anyone experiencing GPS and or reception issues, if you have any aftermarket accessories, be conscious that they may be the cause of your problems.
I've had GPS not been able to lock for a while now, and it turns out that the sole cause of this was an aftermarket metal battery cover. As soon as I put back the stock plastic one, I got a full 8 satellite lock within 20 seconds.
Any metal case, cover, bumper, etc could be having a negative impact on your reception and or GPS. This was definitely the case for my I9100
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Yup, general thing.
Had the same thing happening on the HD2 just like alot of other people who bought the rubber like protection things when they just came out.
Actually it just not only blocks GPS but also wifi and mobile signal a bit which results in a bigger battery drain too.

lukesan said:
Yup, general thing.
Had the same thing happening on the HD2 just like alot of other people who bought the rubber like protection things when they just came out.
Actually it just not only blocks GPS but also wifi and mobile signal a bit which results in a bigger battery drain too.
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It was quite annoying to realize that I've gotten lost a few times the past few months all due to an accessory I paid money for
Makes sense why early iPhone 4's had problems with reception, due to the metal housing

So it's just the metal cases? I've a gel case for my SGS2 and it works great with it
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Yes, my plastic case works fine.

akaleshnikov said:
It was quite annoying to realize that I've gotten lost a few times the past few months all due to an accessory I paid money for
Makes sense why early iPhone 4's had problems with reception, due to the metal housing
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It's not the iPhone's fault brother, like 'he' said; "You're holding it wrong."
On a serious note, the case definitely have impact to signal and heat dissipation. Once upon a time, my HD2 was plagued by signal+heat issue due to some crappy case.

Hello everyone could you please help me? I can not send messages with gmail is always sent, I tried to restart but the problem persists, what can I do? Thanks

karolain said:
Hello everyone could you please help me? I can not send messages with gmail is always sent, I tried to restart but the problem persists, what can I do? Thanks
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I get you cand send e-maild but sms', no. . Since I don't know where you are from, go to your local network operator store and ask someone to give you the right number for message centre. This should be stored on your SIM card but it seems to be a little problem.