[Q] Rooting - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What does rooting your device do to it; besides allow you to upload a different ROM? Also, is ROM comparable to an OS or is ROM just the skin of an OS (in general)?

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Super user privileges, wifi tether, custom recovery, rom changes, access to root only apps like titanium. The os for your phone is android... Roms are like the different versions of linux... Different roms give different functionality and customization.
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chukis13 said:
Super user privileges, wifi tether, custom recovery, rom changes, access to root only apps like titanium. The os for your phone is android... Roms are like the different versions of linux... Different roms give different functionality and customization.
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So it sounds like the root strips off all the security features "The Man" puts on it when it ships so it's more accesible. And once that's done, you're able to load fancy roms, among other things, that arrange the OS in different user friendly ways.

konsts said:
So it sounds like the root strips off all the security features "The Man" puts on it when it ships so it's more accesible. And once that's done, you're able to load fancy roms, among other things, that arrange the OS in different user friendly ways.
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Pretty much. Rooting gives you all of those advantages, plus some.

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Plain Android

Just got my Desire Z today & as much as i love it I hate sense. I'm using ADD.Launcher atm to try & hide it but I still get there crappy apps.
So my question is, which is the best ROM to flash my phone to get to Vanilla Android?
Thanks in advance
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cyanogenmod rom... Its amazing... has probably the most support cause there are soo many users
Try Cyanogen. Check out the thread in the G2 dev forum, where there's loads of activity (the thread on the DZ side is pretty dead).
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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KarlosTheJackal said:
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
steviewevie said:
According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
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'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
Edit:Spelling errors lol
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I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
Andre
KarlosTheJackal said:
'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
andrewilley said:
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
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You'll lose all the HTC apps. So if you like any of them, maybe you won't like a stock Android ROM ?
Have a look at HTC's spec sheet on the DZ, which does list all their add-on apps and widgets too, that should give you an idea - http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
catachresistant said:
This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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I have to say that I'm a Sense fan. I can't fault it over stock Android (aside from the slight performance overhead, which is a non-issue if you overclock).
Vanilla Android - awful camera, contacts, dialler, ugly as hell, launcher looks nice but is plain annoying cos it doesn't fling more than a few lines, you don't get the Sense weather animations which I think are awesome eyecandy for showing off your phone to other people, Sense widgets are all generally pretty, the list goes on...
But ultimately that is MY preference, and the awesome thing about Android is you can customise it to fit your preferences. Try vanilla out - you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Thank you so much for all of that! A lot of help & explained enough for me to start learning
You sir have my first ever 'Thanks' on here.
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
This topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390&highlight=gfree talks about using 'gfree' & 'visionary' & seams like a very easy & straight forward way of gaining root access.
n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
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n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
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Yep, a lot of people seem to run Visionary and end up stuck in a boot loop or similar. I've never seen any problem like that with rage, the worst that seems to happen is it just doesn't work (but the phone is still fine), and that's usually because a command hasn't been typed in correctly or an error message came up and the user didn't realise it was important.
KarlosTheJackal said:
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Excellent ! Well done

is it worth rooting? and installing custom roms

i mean ive paid 600 dollars for this phone because i always wanted the latest updates from google. and now its kind of getting boring lol. i was just wondering is it worth rooting? what are the advantages. and is there "odin" to this phone like there was for vibrant. meaning is this unbrickable also? and what is the best rom out there for nexus s.
and also what if i have custom rom and can i go back to stock and still get google updates ota?
Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
willcpfc said:
Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
2012iawait said:
cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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I ran MoDaCo for a bit with Netarchy's kernel and I must say, the battery life was better than no OC. If you don't want to run the overclock, you can install SetCPU and clock it down to 1GHz while adding the VooDoo sound drivers and the better battery life.
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
It's absolutely worth it to root. I can't stress it enough. Right now its slow, and may not seem worth it till cyan gets all the extras into his ROM, and more kernels and ROM's pop up. But once that happens, it is a must have to root.
I'm running Cm7 Build 24 with a Trinity 1.0 ghz Kernal. Great work! props to the devs.
Installing custom roms and being able to customize my phone is what I love about android. I used to be a Iphone user, owned every single model.
cm7 is a wonderful rom.
Yes.
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willcpfc said:
Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
chrisharmful said:
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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ruben8448 said:
I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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its in the themes and apps section of Android Hacking here on XDA. Give a quick search and you'll find it.
2012iawait said:
i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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voodoo sound is a repository that makes the sound 1000 times better
ruben8448 said:
I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
chrisharmful said:
As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
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Awesome thanks guys. Ill look for it and try it out. Much appreciated
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
that honestly shouldn't even be a question android = open source, open source = custom kernels,custom roms,custom everything basically....android = made to be rooted...
2012iawait said:
guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
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Yes this is normal its a safety precaution install rom manager and everytime you want to go to recovery without having to reflash in bootloader just go into rom manager and hit go to recovery or hold power button reboot then recovery and you will get to clockword
2012iawait said:
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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Follow my guide, the full one is available here (my blog) http://completeandroid.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/complete-guide-to-rooting-the-nexus-s/
or the XDA thread version (doesn't have pictures) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935819
Basically you have to run the SDK manager and install the USB drivers separately, and also install the PDAnet software for extra drivers (I found it helps when using connecting to the NS in fastboot mode).
Custom kernels are evolving...massive overclock or an undervolted battery saver are available. If you got the time and inclination you can try every combo of rom/kernel going....and always have your stock rom only a recovery away.

[Q] Confused - rom, kernel....

Hi,
I'm new to Android and an Acer A500 (obviously with this noob question!) and am confused with a lot of the terminology compared to the iPad (can I use that word on here ? ) I had for years.
Anyway, I flashed Taboonay 2.2 last night and re-installed all my apps again and was browsing when I read about kernels that can be flashed etc.
I've seen posts saying Harkon, Thor 3.9r3 and alsorts of other names / acronyms. Is there a 'one shot' idiot guide I can read through that explains it all in laymans terms and what rom/kernel chanegs what etc so I don't have to keep bugging you guys with stupid questions !
I'm quite happy so far, just I cant seem to find the latest .apk for snappz market as I want to search for a tweak that lets me put folders on the home screen.
As always - thatnks in advance for any help/guidance.
Cheers
posted somewhere on xda by rschenck:
"The kernel in android is essentially just a customized Linux kernel. The ROM is basically the application layer and the framework. Usually ROMs include kernels, but you can flash a different compatible kernel.
Firmware usually refers to either all the basic software on your phone (minus the apps) or the ROM, csc and modem.
You can definetly flash a custom kernel onto a stock ROM, which will improve performance a great deal even without a custom ROM. Find instructions aplenty here on XDA."
Actually for tablets: some kernels are developed for stock ROMs, some for custom ROMs.
proxonic said:
posted somewhere on xda by rschenck:
"The kernel in android is essentially just a customized Linux kernel. The ROM is basically the application layer and the framework. Usually ROMs include kernels, but you can flash a different compatible kernel.
Firmware usually refers to either all the basic software on your phone (minus the apps) or the ROM, csc and modem.
You can definetly flash a custom kernel onto a stock ROM, which will improve performance a great deal even without a custom ROM. Find instructions aplenty here on XDA."
Actually for tablets: some kernels are developed for stock ROMs, some for custom ROMs.
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I like your answer, a kernel is a kernel!! That is a good one. The OP asked for layman's terms so here is my attempt.
A kernel tells your device how to operate your hardware much like the CMOS instructions on a PC. So installing a custom kernel may overclock your cpu, tweak your wifi, adjust your memory usage, screen brightness, or many other options.
A ROM is the operating system with different versions currently our A500 is running Honeycomb 3.2.1 or what ever version the developer decided to tweak. Android comes in several flavors from Froyo 2.2, Gingerbread 2.3 & 2.4 to Honeycomb 3.0 to 3.2.1. Froyo and Gingerbread roms are mostly for phones and early less expensive tablets. Honeycomb was specifically written for tablets.
Custom Roms have been tweaked by a developer to remove bloatware, apps that no one uses, speed tweaks, added apps and functions, themes, and whatever else the developer can do.
cruise350 said:
I like your answer, a kernel is a kernel!! That is a good one. The OP asked for layman's terms so here is my attempt.
A kernel tells your device how to operate your hardware much like the CMOS instructions on a PC. So installing a custom kernel may overclock your cpu, tweak your wifi, adjust your memory usage, screen brightness, or many other options.
A ROM is the operating system with different versions currently our A500 is running Honeycomb 3.2.1 or what ever version the developer decided to tweak. Android comes in several flavors from Froyo 2.2, Gingerbread 2.3 & 2.4 to Honeycomb 3.0 to 3.2.1. Froyo and Gingerbread roms are mostly for phones and early less expensive tablets. Honeycomb was specifically written for tablets.
Custom Roms have been tweaked by a developer to remove bloatware, apps that no one uses, speed tweaks, added apps and functions, themes, and whatever else the developer can do.
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Perfect - THANKS
Animal_UK said:
I'm quite happy so far, just I cant seem to find the latest .apk for snappz market as I want to search for a tweak that lets me put folders on the home screen
Cheers
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hi what do you mean by "put folders on home screen ?
found an app you are happy with ?
ive not found an app that will do it yet unfortunately.
I just want to have a 'folders' on the home page which when i click it opens up with the apps inside. Similar to a PC really. So all the games are in one folder, media in another etc.
Animal_UK said:
ive not found an app that will do it yet unfortunately.
I just want to have a 'folders' on the home page which when i click it opens up with the apps inside. Similar to a PC really. So all the games are in one folder, media in another etc.
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Yeah, that's what I use my five screens for, one for each category
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cruise350 said:
I like your answer, a kernel is a kernel!! That is a good one. The OP asked for layman's terms so here is my attempt.
A kernel tells your device how to operate your hardware much like the CMOS instructions on a PC. So installing a custom kernel may overclock your cpu, tweak your wifi, adjust your memory usage, screen brightness, or many other options.
A ROM is the operating system with different versions currently our A500 is running Honeycomb 3.2.1 or what ever version the developer decided to tweak. Android comes in several flavors from Froyo 2.2, Gingerbread 2.3 & 2.4 to Honeycomb 3.0 to 3.2.1. Froyo and Gingerbread roms are mostly for phones and early less expensive tablets. Honeycomb was specifically written for tablets.
Custom Roms have been tweaked by a developer to remove bloatware, apps that no one uses, speed tweaks, added apps and functions, themes, and whatever else the developer can do.
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Actually the cmos talks to the kernel just like it does in any other OS. Other than that, good response
Try ADW Launcher. You can do folders, a dock bar, resizable widgets and all sorts of stuff.
Animal_UK said:
I'm quite happy so far, just I cant seem to find the latest .apk for snappz market as I want to search for a tweak that lets me put folders on the home screen.
As always - thatnks in advance for any help/guidance.
Cheers
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There is an app in the market called FolderOrganizer and will do what you want. I don't know if it is compatible with Honeycomb or tablets so it may not show up but I had it on my phone for a while and it was a very easy way to group your apps in folders.
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Try ADW Launcher. You can do folders, a dock bar, resizable widgets and all sorts of stuff.
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This one was perfect for what i was looking for - thanks

[Q] rooted.....now?

So I have rooted for the first time, I flashed a ROM.
ok so i don't notice much difference.
So I'm guessing maybe its just the ROM I am using, I wont mention it by name as I'm sure the dev. Put alot of time and effort to create it and its just not what I'm looking for.
Other than speeding up the performance a little, what was the root suposed to do?
And
from what I can see ( and I'm not very experienced in this stuff, I'm learning ) most Roms are just stock with stuff riped out. What else is possible? I wanted to set myself apart from my stock user friends.
Why did you do it if you didn't already know the answer? Anyways, you can overclock, undervolt, have ROMs like MIUI and CM7, free wifi tethering, and more stuff.
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You probably shouldn't have rooted if you didn't know what you were doing. As they always say, "If you have to ask what rooting IS, you probably shouldn't be looking up how to do it yet."
ok maybe I worded that wrong. Yes I know that I can overclock, Already done. And I have a rom on it. I guess what I'm asking is what diffferent roms have to offer.
I'm just learning and don't completely under stand all the technical stuff and the slang. They all basicly say the same thing. Faster and longer battery.
It really comes down to customization. A big one is boot times being much faster - this really seems popular, which I obviously understand. Some people compress all of the apps so the ROMs can really get down to like 200MB and the ROM is usually much better on memory in these cases. Another huge thing is custom kernels (overclocking) and being able to remove unwanted bloatware with system applications. There's apps on the market that only work on rooted devices, such as custom recovery which allows you to take a backup and then restore in the event you screw something up and get boot loops, and apps like cachemate and one of my new favs, the Reboot.apk. It's really limitless. Oh yeah, you can also customize font colors and notification colors, battery (and other) icons, messing with the build.prop, you are able to change certain behaviors of the phone/tablet, and with TrevE's apps, you can find out if your phone/tablet is spying on you. I recently deleted a lot of logs and made those files and folders read only so no more logs could be made. And finally, you customize your boot animation, which is really cool.
Thank you that's what I'm looking for.
So if I wanted to say change some icons, ist the same as flashing the rom? Can I download icons and install the same way? I'm Not ready to make my own or anything lol
Well, you can download full icon packs on the Market. Some are paid, some are free. There are other applications like "BetterCut" or something like that that allow you to change the icons. I'm not sure if you need a custom launcher to do that though, as I've always changed my icons inside of a custom launcher like Panda Home. Panda Home actually has a built in custom icon changer! Not sure if it's compatible with the tablet though, but I know ADW is. Good luck!
Perhaps, you should just flash back to a stock acer rom.
But before you do, take a good benchmark on your battery life.
Then flash back.
Sometimes, rooting is just not for everybody.
Ok one more question.
I have done a full back up, if i want to try a different rom, i flash the same way. If i dont like it i can restore using the backup i made and everything goes back to how it is now? Including how my home screen is now and widgets?
Thank you everyone!
Yes if you did the backup inside of cwm.. I used this feature alot when i was messing with the UI Of my tablet.. NOW all my icons text boarders all match the nice burgundy color case i have my tablet in
I Would try to restore your backup to be sure it does restore before flashing a new rom..
just make sure you fallow all instructions by the Rom Developer.Doing this and you should be fine..
If you brick your tablet you can Blame me .......
Happy Flashing...... STOCK IS BORING.
Ok great thank you
Just to be clear, i hate to asume but cwm is clockwork mod right?
dr mcknight said:
Ok one more question.
I have done a full back up, if i want to try a different rom, i flash the same way. If i dont like it i can restore using the backup i made and everything goes back to how it is now? Including how my home screen is now and widgets?
Thank you everyone!
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Generally, this is correct.
Each Rom cook usually posts the procedures needed to install their rom. Usually, game data, downloaded files and such, is saved. Usually, but not always. Things on the ext sd card are not effected by this process. Usually the procedures are the same. Wipe data, cache, dalvik cache. Sometimes we like to throw in some formats. Especially with the newer roms.
Your full system recovery, should be done through your CWM recovery or RA Recovery, whichever you use, and NOT using an internal application. And this should be done before you install a rom. It will save your current system, widgets, etc, so your system is just like it was before you installed a different rom.
ok this might be a little pointless but I still cannot find a working method to root stock 3.2 help please
thedeadend100 said:
ok this might be a little pointless but I still cannot find a working method to root stock 3.2 help please
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try this
http://youtu.be/zfSPP8UOn78
worked for me no problem
rrroach said:
Why did you do it if you didn't already know the answer? Anyways, you can overclock, undervolt, have ROMs like MIUI and CM7, free wifi tethering, and more stuff.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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MIUI or CM7 in A500?????
anikiup said:
MIUI or CM7 in A500?????
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what is your q referring to?
dr mcknight said:
what is your q referring to?
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I am referring to this section:
have ROMs like MIUI and CM7

[Q] New to Android root. Need advice.

Hi,
I am a iphone user since 2009. I recently decide to made a switch to Android. I am waiting to receive my first Nexus 4.
Some question about rooting:
1 ) iphone jailbreak community has Cydia, where you can install theme, tweak, package, repo. How is it different in Android? My impression is that we have different custom room with different features. Is there a way that user can install individual tweak, package from different sources to stock android?
2) With cydia, I tried a lot of different tweak, themes to make it more customized for me.
It would be great if someone also came from cydia world can elaborate more on the your experience btw cydia and android custom world.
stagius24 said:
Hi,
I am a iphone user since 2009. I recently decide to made a switch to Android. I am waiting to receive my first Nexus 4.
Some question about rooting:
1 ) iphone jailbreak community has Cydia, where you can install theme, tweak, package, repo. How is it different in Android? My impression is that we have different custom room with different features. Is there a way that user can install individual tweak, package from different sources to stock android?
2) With cydia, I tried a lot of different tweak, themes to make it more customized for me.
It would be great if someone also came from cydia world can elaborate more on the your experience btw cydia and android custom world.
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Welcome to the ANDROID WORLD :good:
1) Yes you can root your phone and then try heck lot of tweaks and customizations tweaks on your stock rom from the themes and app section OR simply use a custom rom with features. :good:
2)yes you can find tweaks here in the forum and your and do ANYTHING with this BEAST. :good:
We are here to help you, post your question if any. :angel:
Rohit02 said:
Welcome to the ANDROID WORLD :good:
1) Yes you can root your phone and then try heck lot of tweaks and customizations tweaks on your stock rom from the themes and app section OR simply use a custom rom with features. :good:
2)yes you can find tweaks here in the forum and your and do ANYTHING with this BEAST. :good:
We are here to help you, post your question if any. :angel:
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So I can start with rooted stock android and install individual tweak, package to make it similar to a custom rom, right?
It doesnt make sense for me to install the whole custom just because of 1 or 2 feature. Each custom rom will have pro and con, so I am trying to see if I can pick the best out of each.
Not sure if that is possible
stagius24 said:
So I can start with rooted stock android and install individual tweak, package to make it similar to a custom rom, right?
It doesnt make sense for me to install the whole custom just because of 1 or 2 feature. Each custom rom will have pro and con, so I am trying to see if I can pick the best out of each.
Not sure if that is possible
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Yes you can root the phone and the pick up your tweaks you want. I would go with custom rom as you dont have the headache to manually install any tweaks n all. Rest upto you.
Press thanks if I helped you..
Rohit02 said:
Yes you can root the phone and the pick up your tweaks you want. I would go with custom rom as you dont have the headache to manually install any tweaks n all. Rest upto you.
Press thanks if I helped you..
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or he could install pimp my rom
stagius24 said:
So I can start with rooted stock android and install individual tweak, package to make it similar to a custom rom, right?
It doesnt make sense for me to install the whole custom just because of 1 or 2 feature. Each custom rom will have pro and con, so I am trying to see if I can pick the best out of each.
Not sure if that is possible
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You can also get the stock package + the custom ROM that sounds most promising to you, then edit the stock package while comparing it with the custom one, it's the method i used :good: this way, you can have full control on what mods to include and learn quite a lot
Sent from my liquid glowing bomb shell
stagius24 said:
Hi,
I am a iphone user since 2009. I recently decide to made a switch to Android. I am waiting to receive my first Nexus 4.
Some question about rooting:
1 ) iphone jailbreak community has Cydia, where you can install theme, tweak, package, repo. How is it different in Android? My impression is that we have different custom room with different features. Is there a way that user can install individual tweak, package from different sources to stock android?
2) With cydia, I tried a lot of different tweak, themes to make it more customized for me.
It would be great if someone also came from cydia world can elaborate more on the your experience btw cydia and android custom world.
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You should read this before doing anything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367406

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