[Q] New to Android root. Need advice. - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am a iphone user since 2009. I recently decide to made a switch to Android. I am waiting to receive my first Nexus 4.
Some question about rooting:
1 ) iphone jailbreak community has Cydia, where you can install theme, tweak, package, repo. How is it different in Android? My impression is that we have different custom room with different features. Is there a way that user can install individual tweak, package from different sources to stock android?
2) With cydia, I tried a lot of different tweak, themes to make it more customized for me.
It would be great if someone also came from cydia world can elaborate more on the your experience btw cydia and android custom world.

stagius24 said:
Hi,
I am a iphone user since 2009. I recently decide to made a switch to Android. I am waiting to receive my first Nexus 4.
Some question about rooting:
1 ) iphone jailbreak community has Cydia, where you can install theme, tweak, package, repo. How is it different in Android? My impression is that we have different custom room with different features. Is there a way that user can install individual tweak, package from different sources to stock android?
2) With cydia, I tried a lot of different tweak, themes to make it more customized for me.
It would be great if someone also came from cydia world can elaborate more on the your experience btw cydia and android custom world.
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Welcome to the ANDROID WORLD :good:
1) Yes you can root your phone and then try heck lot of tweaks and customizations tweaks on your stock rom from the themes and app section OR simply use a custom rom with features. :good:
2)yes you can find tweaks here in the forum and your and do ANYTHING with this BEAST. :good:
We are here to help you, post your question if any. :angel:

Rohit02 said:
Welcome to the ANDROID WORLD :good:
1) Yes you can root your phone and then try heck lot of tweaks and customizations tweaks on your stock rom from the themes and app section OR simply use a custom rom with features. :good:
2)yes you can find tweaks here in the forum and your and do ANYTHING with this BEAST. :good:
We are here to help you, post your question if any. :angel:
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So I can start with rooted stock android and install individual tweak, package to make it similar to a custom rom, right?
It doesnt make sense for me to install the whole custom just because of 1 or 2 feature. Each custom rom will have pro and con, so I am trying to see if I can pick the best out of each.
Not sure if that is possible

stagius24 said:
So I can start with rooted stock android and install individual tweak, package to make it similar to a custom rom, right?
It doesnt make sense for me to install the whole custom just because of 1 or 2 feature. Each custom rom will have pro and con, so I am trying to see if I can pick the best out of each.
Not sure if that is possible
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Yes you can root the phone and the pick up your tweaks you want. I would go with custom rom as you dont have the headache to manually install any tweaks n all. Rest upto you.
Press thanks if I helped you..

Rohit02 said:
Yes you can root the phone and the pick up your tweaks you want. I would go with custom rom as you dont have the headache to manually install any tweaks n all. Rest upto you.
Press thanks if I helped you..
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or he could install pimp my rom

stagius24 said:
So I can start with rooted stock android and install individual tweak, package to make it similar to a custom rom, right?
It doesnt make sense for me to install the whole custom just because of 1 or 2 feature. Each custom rom will have pro and con, so I am trying to see if I can pick the best out of each.
Not sure if that is possible
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You can also get the stock package + the custom ROM that sounds most promising to you, then edit the stock package while comparing it with the custom one, it's the method i used :good: this way, you can have full control on what mods to include and learn quite a lot
Sent from my liquid glowing bomb shell

stagius24 said:
Hi,
I am a iphone user since 2009. I recently decide to made a switch to Android. I am waiting to receive my first Nexus 4.
Some question about rooting:
1 ) iphone jailbreak community has Cydia, where you can install theme, tweak, package, repo. How is it different in Android? My impression is that we have different custom room with different features. Is there a way that user can install individual tweak, package from different sources to stock android?
2) With cydia, I tried a lot of different tweak, themes to make it more customized for me.
It would be great if someone also came from cydia world can elaborate more on the your experience btw cydia and android custom world.
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You should read this before doing anything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367406

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[IDEA]Custom ROM Apps

Hello,
I am a software/web developer. Lately I had an idea to make an interface for easy CWM Rom Modifications. Basically like online rom editor.
The program flow is simple.
1. You upload zip rom from your computer, link or choose one from server.
2. You modify basic rom features. Possible functions (some):
add/remove/replace apps
custom launchers
build.prop editor
add/remove/replace fixes/updates
3. Once done you can download, get qr code, share, upload to rapidshare,megaupload,etc
I can make such thing in a week and ready to use. Questions is, would anyone use it?
Personally I can find it useful for me because i switch roms daily and i prefer launcherpro instead of stock, custom wallapepers, etc etc. So instead of installing each rom and modifying it locally you could do it with few clicks from your browser, even possibly from phone itself.
But once again, does that sound something that you would find useful?
jM2.me said:
Hello,
I am a software/web developer. Lately I had an idea to make an interface for easy CWM Rom Modifications. Basically like online rom editor.
The program flow is simple.
1. You upload zip rom from your computer, link or choose one from server.
2. You modify basic rom features. Possible functions (some):
add/remove/replace apps
custom launchers
build.prop editor
add/remove/replace fixes/updates
3. Once done you can download, get qr code, share, upload to rapidshare,megaupload,etc
I can make such thing in a week and ready to use. Questions is, would anyone use it?
Personally I can find it useful for me because i switch roms daily and i prefer launcherpro instead of stock, custom wallapepers, etc etc. So instead of installing each rom and modifying it locally you could do it with few clicks from your browser, even possibly from phone itself.
But once again, does that sound something that you would find useful?
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This is a late reply but heck yeah i would totally use it!
haha. yes i would have to admit that this is a late reply as well but i would use something like this also. i wish i seen this before. i also change ROMs often and this could provide some great use.
Ha ha late reply..... is use it
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jM2.me said:
Hello,
I am a software/web developer. Lately I had an idea to make an interface for easy CWM Rom Modifications. Basically like online rom editor.
The program flow is simple.
1. You upload zip rom from your computer, link or choose one from server.
2. You modify basic rom features. Possible functions (some):
add/remove/replace apps
custom launchers
build.prop editor
add/remove/replace fixes/updates
3. Once done you can download, get qr code, share, upload to rapidshare,megaupload,etc
I can make such thing in a week and ready to use. Questions is, would anyone use it?
Personally I can find it useful for me because i switch roms daily and i prefer launcherpro instead of stock, custom wallapepers, etc etc. So instead of installing each rom and modifying it locally you could do it with few clicks from your browser, even possibly from phone itself.
But once again, does that sound something that you would find useful?
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It's a great idea dude! I'm a web designer/dev too. Anyway love the idea, this will open up the possibilities of trying new roms every time.
I'd too use it.
It's the idea, I was dreaming of.
Best of luck !
HECK YES
oh boy yes totally yes.
this type of app would help immensly to any1 who wishes to barebone there favourite rom.
help us in keeping our cwm smaller ie 5/150/10 etc.
mod roms to our taste.
cut out fonts we dont want.
apps we dont want or use.
ringtones, alarm sounds, notifications, system sounds etc we dont want or need.
insert our own apps.
hell yes brilliant idea hope that you do create and bring this project to fruition.
A++++++++++++ on idea and creation.
jM2.me said:
Hello,
I am a software/web developer. Lately I had an idea to make an interface for easy CWM Rom Modifications. Basically like online rom editor.
The program flow is simple.
1. You upload zip rom from your computer, link or choose one from server.
2. You modify basic rom features. Possible functions (some):
add/remove/replace apps
custom launchers
build.prop editor
add/remove/replace fixes/updates
3. Once done you can download, get qr code, share, upload to rapidshare,megaupload,etc
I can make such thing in a week and ready to use. Questions is, would anyone use it?
Personally I can find it useful for me because i switch roms daily and i prefer launcherpro instead of stock, custom wallapepers, etc etc. So instead of installing each rom and modifying it locally you could do it with few clicks from your browser, even possibly from phone itself.
But once again, does that sound something that you would find useful?
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I like the idea, however, with ROM dev's in mind, i would not make it so one can share the ROM they uploaded. I would make it so the person who uploaded the ROM they can then download it after their modifications were made. I just know that some ROM devs wouldnt appreciate their work being passed on and shared without their approval, a lot of devs dont like mirrors being created and even though the user modifies the ROM, its still not their work since the code is the developers. But yes i would like something like this. i already have a batch file set up that just adds the things i want.

Now I'm rooted, what next?

So I took a big leap and rooted my tablet this morning. I've installed Titanium Backup and GMD Gesture, and also AdAway and AppQuarantine. What other great things can I do? I love trying new things. Any suggestions from you experts? I would be very grateful!
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Flash a custom ROM.
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ÜBER™ said:
Flash a custom ROM.
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Download and do either of the following for a full backup...
the best way to do a complete and full backup of your device.. There are two methods
1 most common
download ROM MANAGER
you can from in this app install a custom recovery on your device..
Boot into the custom recovery and do a full anand backup. you can also flash other custom roms (custom android os)
2 what i use..
download goo manager beta from play store
in go manager click menu at top choose install open source recovery . follow prompts . It will download and install
same as step one you can boot into recovery from goo manager Its big botton fully touch base . And you can backup and restore as well as flash custom roms...
NOW WITH THE ABOVE SAID PLEASE READ thru the forums related to roms rom manager Custom recoveries .. and so on .. this will save you some troubles later .. anything you need to know or not understand Just ask We are here to help.
Cool, thanks! Could you point me to the best place for explanations about roms? XDA is huge and I am not sure where to look... Cheers!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
ÜBER™ said:
Flash a custom ROM.
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And then eventually, try out some custom kernels. Although be warned, you may discover a new hobby and become a crack flasher
I usually don't keep any one ROM and kernel on my tablet for more then a week (average is 2 days). I'm trying to resist flashing PARANOIDANDROID 1.992 since I heard 2.0 is around the corner.. not sure how long I can hold out though
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I'm ****ing dumb, thought this was GN for some reason.
thebobp said:
Logo Me
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it doesnt work with the seven. at least ezekeel(developer) said that it cant be implemented on the nexus 7.
simms22 said:
it doesnt work with the seven. at least ezekeel(developer) said that it cant be implemented on the nexus 7.
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My bad. (Too bad as well, but meh.)
Edit: some (though not all) of these inverted apps work, if you swing that way. Once again, they were made for the GN
thebobp said:
My bad. (Too bad as well, but meh.)
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yea, i know. he asked me what mods he should port to the nexus 7 since he just got one, my answer was logo me right away. then he disappointed me by saying its not possible seeing how the bootloader is encrypted
To find roms on xda
Xda is a very organized web site for the most part finding them is easy. deciding which one is not so much
rom actually means read only memory.. But we will skip the tech stuff for now..
Here on the device development forums Rom is referred to mostly as a custom built Operating system for your device .
these can be built by one person or a team of developers . Most have tweaks and customization's a bit above and beyond the stock experience. ITS BEST before flashing any new rom is to into the forum thread of the rom read developer info and the comments made on the thread. Many roms have experimental software apps and tweaks.. Not all roms are perfectly stable..SO FINDING one that has what you are looking for is just a matter of reading and trial and error.
Most roms. well all you see anymore Come with a kernel. (The linux part of android .. Kinda whats under the hood) . Be sure to pay attention to this and the information. Some add features some over clock .
we have here for the n7 several types of roms .
original development .. these are based on the custom operating system pushed by google
custom based on the above but often has alot more customization's and kernel tweaks More likely to have buggs . but often faster and take up less storage space on device.. as well as having a personal twist for the developer on apps installed customization's and themes
I never give advice on what to use just go in the development section and start reading .
Be sure before you flash anything on your tablet know what it is and how to get out of it Back to stock and Have your backups backed up...
ALWAYS HAVE A WAY OUT FIRST..
Good Luck
So I am now on Paranoid Android, trying out the different Workspaces. Thanks for the help!
But I don't understand what Paranoid Android does. What does "This rom lets you scale and project every app, every widget, even systemcomponents individually" mean in every day language?
Also, could someone explain where, in tablet mode, the three dots are for the settings of many apps. They seem to be covered by the status bar. How does one access them? Would be grateful for help as I really like the small tablet mode.

[Q] Q>Something like Cydia ...

Hi ,
i rooted my phone (Nexus 4) and i want design it , but i don't know how , and i want download some tweaks and i don't know how ...
Android have something like Cydia ?
another thing you guys can give me some good tweaks ? for design and usefull ?
ozal5 said:
Hi ,
i rooted my phone (Nexus 4) and i want design it , but i don't know how , and i want download some tweaks and i don't know how ...
Android have something like Cydia ?
another thing you guys can give me some good tweaks ? for design and usefull ?
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here you go mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
Hi ,
i rooted my phone (Nexus 4) and i want design it , but i don't know how , and i want download some tweaks and i don't know how ...
Android have something like Cydia ?
another thing you guys can give me some good tweaks ? for design and usefull ?
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Hello there, it may seem that I'm not the perfect answerer to your rather ignorant (because I'm sure thousands threads like yours already exist) question, but here I am trying to up my Thanks meter.
First thing you should know is that if you want something exactly like Cydia you won't find it or as in most cases it won't work nearly as good. That's why we have our specific Nexus 4 forum here on xda and luckily it is one of the most popular ones.
Before you make any attempts on tweaking, be sure to install a recovery. I highly recommend this PC/MAC tool for almost everything including installation of recoveries. There are two options - ClockWorkMod (CWM) and TeamWinRecoveryProject (TWRP)
They are very helpful if you want to flash (install) ROMs (modded versions of Android), kernels, .zip files that contain some kind of a visual or non-visual tweak, and recovering your phone.
From here on you can install a custom ROM (for visual tweaks Paranoid Android is a good choice, for speed and reliability I would pick CyanogenMod, whose developers have an installer for noobs) with some kind of a custom kernel like AK which is a all-in-one solution or a reliable noob-friendly one like FrancoKernel OR use Xposed modules (GravityBox is an excellent one) over the stock ROM.
There are lots of noob-friendly videos by the xda team, so check out their YouTube channel as well. Use Google and read very carefully before flashing anything. Wisdom comes with time.
We don't need Cydia. We have the Google Play Store, which has most of the root apps you'll want. There are other stores like Amazon and others, if you so desire.
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Okay Thanks guys , you have some recommended apps to design my phone ?
ofc usefull also , and how i can see a list of rooted apps ?
ozal5 said:
Okay Thanks guys , you have some recommended apps to design my phone ?
ofc usefull also , and how i can see a list of rooted apps ?
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For design try Themer, like most apps you can get them from the play store. As far apps that require root access, maybe search root in the play store? It should be noted that Root is like Administrator priviliges in Windows. In android there are so many things that you're already able to do that, often times, root isn't needed.
jamel_tza said:
For design try Themer, like most apps you can get them from the play store. As far apps that require root access, maybe search root in the play store? It should be noted that Root is like Administrator priviliges in Windows. In android there are so many things that you're already able to do that, often times, root isn't needed.
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Okay Thanks you , look i want to change my soft keys , the problem is i need systemUI.zip to use ZipThemer ... how can i do this without rom ? or where is the files i need ?
ozal5 said:
Okay Thanks you , look i want to change my soft keys , the problem is i need systemUI.zip to use ZipThemer ... how can i do this without rom ? or where is the files i need ?
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In what way do you want to change them? Check out Xposed Framework, not in the play store.
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korockinout13 said:
In what way do you want to change them? Check out Xposed Framework, not in the play store.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
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Thanks you .

help me root/rom

I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
Code:
Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
leftkidney said:
I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
Code:
Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
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Start here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Safe Root works great for our phone. Here is the link: http://www.droidviews.com/root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545-on-android-4-3-vruemk2/ . I know, it takes you off of xda, but you can root your phone with out using odin. It is quick and easy. You can then install a twrp through goo manager. No need to use odin for that. Good luck.
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
btoddweber said:
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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so I have used cf auto root and installed cwm the rommanager that worked pretty well
I will assume that installing roms is the same as before after this
I am glad to see that things have been simplified here I will post back if I have problems again
I am wondering what is the best rom for me, I dont really care much if I have the touchwiz I used midnightrom and CM9 on my sgs1 epic before and loved it the lack of touchwiz wasnt a problem for me - I dont like any of the samsung apps at all and never want to use the sprint apps, I would not like it if the widgets go away I use those for my btc prices and my mining rig hashrate
I could use a stock rom for this phone if all the crappy sprint apps have been removed
like I said I have been out of this game for a while and at the time CM9 was just about the best rom out so I used that, all the others were good just didnt have as many features
leftkidney said:
I am wondering what is the best rom for me
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Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
nobody291 said:
Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
leftkidney said:
yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
I am going to skirt the "best rom" issue and just drop a list of what has been good for me... If you try all of these you'll certainly find one that works for you. I have intentionally mixed up the order here to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.. LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588745
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312063
Take a weekend and try them all. Make backups of each as you go through them and your all set!
leaderbuilder said:
What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
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you are absolutely right I dont know why I even asked that "best rom" it was stupid I admit it I feel stupid about that one I dont want to say I mistyped but I wasnt thinking I totally understand the reason why its a bad question to ask and why there isnt a real answer so I am sorry and I do know its one of those things you dont ask I have read that in the past but I forgot or something
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working that should be like gps/wifi/4g/lte things like that, in the past a few roms were missing things like that
are there any that certain apps wont work for? I use and rely on "no led" app I just love the way it shows the colored icons on screen
leftkidney said:
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working
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The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
nobody291 said:
The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
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so yea I dont really like the touchwiz interface I liked using the stock android theme my last phone had using CM9 so touchwiz isnt really needed
I do need to be able to use widgets though like the ones for apps that show me the prices of gold/silver my bitcoins/litecoins and the mining speed from my miners using the api I have - dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work, not the touchwiz widgets but the ones that apps create
I have installed roms before so I know its not hard but once you get into this things can get out of control and after a while you find your self having to use odin and then things get scary cuz lets face it who really likes using odin unless something has changed from last year odin is just about the only thing that could really brick your phone if something goes wrong
thanks for your help I will give it a go and hope nothing bad happens
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
leftkidney said:
dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work
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In my experience, there are Samsung widgets that not only require touchwiz, but also require Samsung's launcher. I use several widgets designed for multiple Android devices, and I don't think they care about touchwiz.
cruise350 said:
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
leftkidney said:
you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
cruise350 said:
Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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yea wanted all things working but I guess after looking at it I dont use much of the "S" features if at all so I will just have to try some out and see whats up
one thing I was wondering about is the "gapps" in the past I had to make sure it was the exact right one for the exact rom I was using but now I dont see much about saying a specific version of gapps for the roms rather just to install gapps and get the latest one - so the gapps that would be for the sprint phone should work for the roms?
I do however like the feature where you wave your hand over the screen when its off and it lights up to show you the time and info, it would suck if that went away but I can deal with it
I would like to know if there are any problems with using the samsung tec tiles, those NFC sticker tags with other roms that wouldnt have any touchwiz stuff
I assume that they are just NFC so they should work but I want to be sure
I havent installed a rom yet been busy - but I did get root
I noticed I have an OTA update waiting, I assume its 4.4 so if I update will I have problems rooting or remove root and make installing roms hard?

Need help in making Stock based ROM

Hello everyone! First of all Thank you for being here to help me. Secondly I need your help in making a new ROM based on stock ASUS ROM. As you know there are already 2-3 stock based ROMs out there, what's different here. So here's the different I want to make. Let me first tell you that I'm a newbie here and never tried my hands on making a new ROM but I know the flashing, etc. methods. Here are the features:
Would be stock 3.24.40.87 based.
No ASUS app except Launcher, Camera SystemUI and Framework, just Google's default apps (like Google calendar, Gmail, Gallery/Photos, etc. Means users can just download GAPPS and flash).
No extra bloatware. (I want it like CM13, just stock apps and user's choice GAPPS)
Network Speed Indicator (like in other stock based roms).
Xposed flashable (I'd include the like for users.
Kernel with Double Tap To Wake support (you tell me which is best and don't have that reboot bug on log calls).
No Mods or anything.
I'd like to name it "Blank" ROM.
So, I'm completely newbie here, no coding knowledge except web dev. I don't know anything about ROM building, as I said before. Now you've to tell me:
Where and how to start?
Any Development Environment required or not, if yes then what is it?
How to get going?
Links or threads where I can find relevant info or Mods.
If you think this is too much and a newbie won't be able to handle such work, and you can do this yourself, you're welcome to use this idea make make the ROM!
latest borets kernels is the best with no reboots.
[email protected] said:
latest borets kernels is the best with no reboots.
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Thanks. Link to the thread? And, what about the rest of the things?
cy56 said:
Thanks. Link to the thread? And, what about the rest of the things?
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borets kernel =http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-5/general/custom-lollipop-kernel-zenfone-5-t3238970
i have no experience in building roms,so i cant tell about other things..
hit thanks if u like

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