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Lte requires sim cards right? So hopefully after sprint makes the upgrade to lte, we'll be able to buy sprint phones and use a sim card from any of the big 4! Dream come true in america, emirite?
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Sorry, meant we can buy any lte phone unlocked*
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That's what I heard. And supposedly it's not the micro ones either.

A_Flying_Fox said:
Lte requires sim cards right? So hopefully after sprint makes the upgrade to lte, we'll be able to buy sprint phones and use a sim card from any of the big 4! Dream come true in america, emirite?
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Not really...AT&T and Verizon are both going FDD-LTE on the 700mhz band...Sprint will get TD-LTE on the 2.5ghz~ range....
T-Mobile is going on their own HSPA/LTE hybrid variant...
So while Verizon and AT&T phones might be interchangeable (assuming they dont lock them say via some other method)..Sprint and T-Mobile will not be part of that...

gTen said:
Not really...AT&T and Verizon are both going FDD-LTE on the 700mhz band...Sprint will get TD-LTE on the 2.5ghz~ range....
T-Mobile is going on their own HSPA/LTE hybrid variant...
So while Verizon and AT&T phones might be interchangeable (assuming they dont lock them say via some other method)..Sprint and T-Mobile will not be part of that...
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.......my heart.
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gTen said:
Not really...AT&T and Verizon are both going FDD-LTE on the 700mhz band...Sprint will get TD-LTE on the 2.5ghz~ range....
T-Mobile is going on their own HSPA/LTE hybrid variant...
So while Verizon and AT&T phones might be interchangeable (assuming they dont lock them say via some other method)..Sprint and T-Mobile will not be part of that...
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So which one would be better?

musclehead84 said:
So which one would be better?
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Better in terms of?

musclehead84 said:
So which one would be better?
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Verizons lte is on par with wimax so i assume that sprints would be better when they get it
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And higher spectrum means better building penetration, right?
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Well its not impossible for a device to support both TD-LTE and FD-LTE on a single chipset..but we would then have to buy international phones..cause knowing carriers they either won't include those bands or lock them :/
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And higher spectrum means better building penetration, right?
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700mhz is better building penetration over 2.5ghz..BUT how TD-LTE is allows carriers to use more spectrum...right now AT&T and Verizon plan to run it in 20mhz worth of spectrum each..realistically speaking that would constrain quantity of users/amount of data...(hence the tiered data)
Sprint right now though is running wimax in 10mhz of spectrum though..and could run it in 30mhz if they please..
So realistically speaking its easier to run TD-LTE as more spectrum is available in comparison to FD-LTE running at the limited 700mhz spectrum..while 700mhz spectrum though will offer betetr building penetration/signal

gTen said:
Well its not impossible for a device to support both TD-LTE and FD-LTE on a single chipset..but we would then have to buy international phones..cause knowing carriers they either won't include those bands or lock them :/
700mhz is better building penetration over 2.5ghz..BUT how TD-LTE is allows carriers to use more spectrum...right now AT&T and Verizon plan to run it in 20mhz worth of spectrum each..realistically speaking that would constrain quantity of users/amount of data...(hence the tiered data)
Sprint right now though is running wimax in 10mhz of spectrum though..and could run it in 30mhz if they please..
So realistically speaking its easier to run TD-LTE as more spectrum is available in comparison to FD-LTE running at the limited 700mhz spectrum..while 700mhz spectrum though will offer betetr building penetration/signal
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So its basically the 3g story again lol sprint has the better and same constant speeds no matter the load, but the signal won't be as strong lol. I can deal with that
And buyingunlocked international phones isn't bad...my friend only uses unlocked ones and they always have extra features compared to a branded one... and all he would have to do to activate it was slide his sim card in it. I hate how att/tmo users can effectively use any phone they want...I want this freedom with sprint/verizon
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A_Flying_Fox said:
So its basically the 3g story again lol sprint has the better and same constant speeds no matter the load, but the signal won't be as strong lol. I can deal with that
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Sprint's LTE will act like the current Wimax implementation because it'll be running at 2.5ghz. We all know how spotty it is, especially when indoors.
Verizon and AT&T, at 700mhz will act their current 3G service because it's very close to 800mhz. They'll probably have an easier time getting better coverage because they know the 800mhz frequency.
Personally, I'd rather be at 700mhz for LTE, at 2.5ghz, you lose to much coverage and I'm sure Verizon already has the limited bandwidth figure out. If they didn't they could be throwing billions of dollars down the tube.
I can't wait for Verizon handsets to hit the market. My Sprint contract just expired so I'm looking to jump ship.

A_Flying_Fox said:
So its basically the 3g story again lol sprint has the better and same constant speeds no matter the load, but the signal won't be as strong lol. I can deal with that
And buyingunlocked international phones isn't bad...my friend only uses unlocked ones and they always have extra features compared to a branded one... and all he would have to do to activate it was slide his sim card in it. I hate how att/tmo users can effectively use any phone they want...I want this freedom with sprint/verizon
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Well yes and no..thing is most international phones dont have the AT&T 3g band and don't have AWS (most common t-mobile 3g band) on same band as T-Mobile
crabjoe said:
Sprint's LTE will act like the current Wimax implementation because it'll be running at 2.5ghz. We all know how spotty it is, especially when indoors.
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As I said its spotty because right now..
1) sprint is using only 10mhz of spectrum...
2) They are doing minimum deployments..aka the need mroe towers but being cheap...
Verizon and AT&T, at 700mhz will act their current 3G service because it's very close to 800mhz. They'll probably have an easier time getting better coverage because they know the 800mhz frequency.
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um..what?!?!
Personally, I'd rather be at 700mhz for LTE, at 2.5ghz, you lose to much coverage and I'm sure Verizon already has the limited bandwidth figure out. If they didn't they could be throwing billions of dollars down the tube.
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Yes its called Tiered Data plans...not fun...

Anyway, wouldn't the first crop of Verizon LTE phones still rely on 1x for voice and 3G EVDO/LTE for data?
So basically we're going to have a scenario where a Verizon LTE phone would be something like this CDMA 2000 1x/1900mhz EVDO/700mhz LTE,
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an ATT LTE phone might be like Quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS 1900 (HSPA?)/700mhz LTE?

My 2 cents vzw & att are double what we pay for a premium phone service on sprint and not unlimited anything also have bad coverage. They nickel & dime the crap out of you on top of it. Also wimax has voice calling capabilities not just data. Lte for some reason can only do data. So maybe some new features with voice calling with wimax.
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jbadboy2007 said:
My 2 cents vzw & att are double what we pay for a premium phone service on sprint and not unlimited anything also have bad coverage. They nickel & dime the crap out of you on top of it. Also wimax has voice calling capabilities not just data. Lte for some reason can only do data. So maybe some new features with voice calling with wimax.
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Wimax for voice calling? I find that scary. In its current iteration its flaky enough just for data. I shudder to think how crappy voice calling would be on it. They seriously need to build it out a ton more. I walk in my house signal disappears....not encouraging.

LordLugard said:
Wimax for voice calling? I find that scary. In its current iteration its flaky enough just for data. I shudder to think how crappy voice calling would be on it. They seriously need to build it out a ton more. I walk in my house signal disappears....not encouraging.
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At least you are lucky enough to have coverage...

Wimax doesnt do voice.....on the other hand, att and tmo 3g is voice/data
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Yes, the specifications for Voice over LTE have not been finished yet.
LordLugard said:
Wimax for voice calling? I find that scary. In its current iteration its flaky enough just for data. I shudder to think how crappy voice calling would be on it. They seriously need to build it out a ton more. I walk in my house signal disappears....not encouraging.
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Sprint is working on making a seamless radio..aka unlike now where you need to enable/disable 4g it would work in a way that even if 4g is disconnected your session would not be interrupted...same for calls..

LTE doesn't require a SIM card...Verizon is CDMA

True 4G on our Atrixs

Just a thought... but if verizon was willing to upgrade all the xooms to 4G why doesn't AT&T do the same for our phones when they roll out their LTE? Just a thought since having a powerful device (even though its crippled) with awesome speeds would be nice.
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it's not that simple. there's no magic 'switch' or replaceable part that enables LTE.

That and the fact that the Xoom is a Google flagship device.

drock212 said:
Just a thought... but if verizon was willing to upgrade all the xooms to 4G why doesn't AT&T do the same for our phones when they roll out their LTE? Just a thought since having a powerful device (even though its crippled) with awesome speeds would be nice.
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Anyone who buys the Xoom now that wants LTE later has to send their device into Moto to have the hardware upgraded to support LTE

It's quite clear that the Xoom was designed with upgradability in mind while the Atrix wasn't. Actually if I remember correctly the Xoom has an open expansion slot. I'm sure ifixit would have the information. I know however that the Atrix radio chip is soldered in place. Realistically though, AT&T has no active LTE network and won't until probably after the T-Mobile acquisition is complete - they have started they want to use the AWS band for their LTE network. And by then we'll all be lining up to buy the next high end phone. Hexacore anyone?
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phobos512 said:
It's quite clear that the Xoom was designed with upgradability in mind while the Atrix wasn't. Actually if I remember correctly the Xoom has an open expansion slot. I'm sure ifixit would have the information. I know however that the Atrix radio chip is soldered in place. Realistically though, AT&T has no active LTE network and won't until probably after the T-Mobile acquisition is complete - they have started they want to use the AWS band for their LTE network. And by then we'll all be lining up to buy the next high end phone. Hexacore anyone?
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Well, they're using T-mo's bands to help expand their pre-determined LTE rollout from 80% to 95%. They also want to use T-Mo to help support their H+, but AT&T already had spectrum set up for their LTE before this acquisition

When LTE on AT&T is out you are going to have already your next Android phone with quad core processor;-)

mgymnop said:
When LTE on AT&T is out you are going to have already your next Android phone with quad core processor;-)
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We might be talking through biological implants in our ears

Sprint switcing from Wimax

Well as many of you read on Engadget about Sprint switching from WiMax to LTE. Well naturally being curious, while I was stopping by my parents house on the way home I asked my dad who worked in telecom for most of my life doing contract work for Sprint. He now has since moved out telecom to some other department, but he still keeps up with his telecom friends who do contracting work for Sprint. Anyways back to the point I asked if these rumors were true. He said Yes they are switching from WiMax, but not to what and that Samsung is providing the equipment. If i find out anymore information I will let you know.

i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?

omgzilla85 said:
i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
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Everything would still work on the phone but the 4G LTE.

There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.

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There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
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but does this mean that they are going to stop expanding the 4g network, and focus only on getting LTE up in more places? this is kind of a kick in the balls for people who just bought 4g capable devices with sprint.

They'll probably continue to expand and run Wimax on 2.5 Ghz and run LTE in parallel on 850 Mhz.

The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?

Bukem75 said:
The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
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Yes, but you can't swap out the hardware in your phone from wimax to LTE.

So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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By the time this is completed, the Evo will be obsolete.

mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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No lol.. i am sure if you have 4g service you would still get it.

No offense but you have like 5 posts Including 2 in this thread, and you've been a member here just as long as I have pretty much...I'll believe it when I see it, and as ruge said, the evo will be the compare to as the nextel chirp phones back in the day and the razor, obsolete, trust me, no evo will have lte

the Evo 2A will have lte, I promise

Edit: I am changing this because I read this post wrong. You are right they are about to use Samsung products on the new towers but its not to change wimax, it is to make the towers more efficient and smaller. From what I was told they will use new technology which will allow them to add all services on one tower and be able to free up frequency to build out. It would not be imho to drop wimax because they will be the only ones to utilize it giving them an advantage in developing. Back on topic he is correct they are making upgrades and using new hardware within the towers but I think its imho to have voice/data simultaneous on a cdma network (a first) and they will do it with wimax 2 starting 2012...(that is just my opinion)

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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gamer4208 said:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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yes it will be BOTH, in years from now, which will be = 2 the razr in todays age

craigbailey1986 said:
This is complete bs as I know 2 top engineers working for sprint and neither have heard such news.... now I usually don't feed into this he say/she say because it won't change a thing but please don't spread speculations amongst the forum without having concrete facts. Sprint also stated recently they were keeping there 800 spectrum and making upgrades to it for business who utilize the "ptt" phones and not using it for lte. All it takes is a little reading....
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I believe I know the article you are referring to as it was in another thread on here and discussed the new PTT service they will use once IDEN is turned off and it will include more speeds and the likes for data.
The way I took the article was that the new PTT phones will take advantage of the new network upgrade they are performing i think its called Sprints Network vision. The multimode base-stations will be the key to it all.
In the end the change allows them to use all the networks more interchangably from what I understand.
I would not expect them to keep the 800MHz band for CDMA PTT. they stated that CDMA PTT phones will be out late this year and if thats the case and they were planning on having them run on the IDEN 800MHz band wouldn't IDEN need to be shut off first? I take it as the CDMA PTT phones will run on the regular network and use data form the 800MHz once they deploy LTE on that. they can't put WiMax on the 800MHz b/c WiMax isn't provisioned in that spectrum at this point.

As I stated in my edited reply it would not make sense to use technology the others are using because it would not make good marketing. Also wimax 2 will be out second quarter or half this year, can't recall, and around the exact same time frame for those new phones. Also the new hardware being supplied to sprint and their new plan is at the core of what wimax 2 is. Which is stated to give better download speed and efficiency thru multi data channels. The company supplying the hardware, Samsung, also The first company to test wimax 2 and said it got 130mbs download, but that's with no one else testing it. But you get the picture.... I hope
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My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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dirkyd3rk said:
My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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Sorry to hear that... I also don't get good signal in certain places but hey each carrier has bad spots, when I am in the studio some artist who have iPhone or att don't have any service while myself and engineer have full bars, though he has Verizon
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Verizon LTE to work with EVO

I've been reading lots of articles relating to this and some that date back to early February. Yet I haven't heard much when it comes to making moves to making this happen. What's everyone's thoughts on this happening?
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Impossible from what I understand nope cause is the next step for GSM network, and that's y thunderbolt uses a sim card, Idk if Verizon will become GSM in the future tho, in some countries cdma carriers have banish and became GSM but Verizon is huge in US so not idea
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kris54241 said:
I've been reading lots of articles relating to this and some that date back to early February. Yet I haven't heard much when it comes to making moves to making this happen. What's everyone's thoughts on this happening?
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It would be kinda hard considering the evo has no lte radio.
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kris54241 said:
I've been reading lots of articles relating to this and some that date back to early February. Yet I haven't heard much when it comes to making moves to making this happen. What's everyone's thoughts on this happening?
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...where? I am pretty sure it is impossible.
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This would be quite an easy conversion considering the frequencies are quite similar and would just require a chip change at the towers
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Hardware??
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This would be quite an easy conversion considering the frequencies are quite similar and would just require a chip change at the towers
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I dont think the evo has the required hardware to use lte

It would be a change in the lte towers
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The phones a year old, easiest answer as to why...No

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This would be quite an easy conversion considering the frequencies are quite similar and would just require a chip change at the towers
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My God, do you even know what you're taling about?!
Verizon LTE chips work on 700mHz frequency. The WiMAX chips used on Sprint phones only work on 2.4gHz. How are these ridiculously different frequencies "quite similar"?
It's impossible. It's never happening. This thread should be closed.

I have heard alot of talk of how the hardware is very very similar its just software does not allow it, but could be changed to allow it. They even have panels that transmit WiMax and LTE. But as for the Cell phones I am not so sure.

that's really ****ing weird that the sprint CEO has been trying to work a deal out ...give me a second and ill get a link that u shove up ur trolling ass sideways
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My God, do you even know what you're taling about?!
Verizon LTE chips work on 700mHz frequency. The WiMAX chips used on Sprint phones only work on 2.4gHz. How are these ridiculously different frequencies "quite similar"?
It's impossible. It's never happening. This thread should be closed.
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There's a lot of confusion about this......
Yes, WiMAX and LTE really are similar technologies, and yes, Sprint could very well convert WiMAX to LTE with relative ease. HOWEVER, we're talking about changes at the tower level, not for phones.
LTE on sprint would require new phones with new chips. The EVO will never, E V E R be able to run LTE. EVER.
Instead of looking up stuff that doesn't exist, try to understand the difference between a troll and post that is actually factual and informative from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
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Put it this way....u can buy an lte radio and then if/when they upgrade the towers to lte u can install the radio and try it out. Lol
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From all articles it states an evo could use lte with a change at the tower level
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http://m.gizmodo.com/5167321/sprint-testing-lte-equipment-whither-wimax
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And that has to do with the Evo how?

Do you think the EVO will ever get a C Band patch?

Yea...no. LTE uses different hardware from wimax in the tower AND the phone. It's supposedly easy to upgrade a wimax TOWER to an LTE tower, but in order to make the phone compatible with LTE, it needs a new LTE radio.
Unless Sprint and HTC are going to upgrade this phone (with the 3D supposedly coming in the summer) I would say this is definitely, positively not possible.

I'd be happy if they could master getting 3g to work. I live in the 2nd largest city in New York and waiting for 4g service reminds me of how it must be living in the rural areas and being able to only get a DSL connection. Anything over 256 kbps is cause for celebration. I don't care if they connect with a soup can and a string as long as they start providing the service performance they were advertising when I bought the phone. I got my EVO the day it was released, almost a year ago now, and you could litterally see the band width dropping month by month as the EVO's began gaining market share and taxing the system. If Sprint doesn't get it together soon I'll be considering paying the freight and moving to Verizon. They got neat phones too.

Yup...I live in northeast Wisconsin and with full bars of 3g connection I get about 200 kb down and 300 kb up ...its quite ridiculous how flooded the towers are ...if I go to a smaller city I get 2500kb down ...
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I'd be happy if they could master getting 3g to work. I live in the 2nd largest city in New York and waiting for 4g service reminds me of how it must be living in the rural areas and being able to only get a DSL connection. Anything over 512kbps is cause for celebration. I don't care if they connect with a soup can and a string as long as they start providing the service performance they were advertising when I bought the phone. I got my EVO the day it was released, almost a year ago now, and you could litterally see the band width dropping month by month as the EVO's began gaining market share and taxing the system. If Sprint doesn't get it together soon I'll be considering paying the freight and moving to Verizon. They got neat phones too.
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talk and internet at the same time?

So anybody heard about the new evo update allowing them to talk and be on the internet at the same time?

Haven't heard anything about that, have been able to do that if using 4G or WiFi.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.

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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
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jgalan14 said:
Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
+1 i hope sprint comes out with this kinda phone
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You could probably do that with groove ip and ur Google number, u would just chew up data opposed u minutes, I have only used this over WiFi, but it should work over 3g also
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bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol

Mark_Hardware said:
I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I am moderately surprised this hasn't happened yet. Given that we have a wifi chip, an FM receiver, bluetooth, 3G, 4G...some phones have had FM transceivers as well, NFC, etc....
I am not surprised, however, because bandwidth is very limited...we're not talking back-haul, we're talking actual radio wave space....I'm dying to know what breakthrough will come along to alleviate that.
If anyone wonders why your mobile internet sucks it's oversaturation....not of the back-haul line that connects the cells to the backbone but of the very air itself as allocated. There's only so much physical space in them airs. Too may people, not enough frequencies, bands are too narrow, too many things need their own band.

It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.

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It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755.
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HAHA no you didn't. It's a limitation with cdma, you CANNOT use 3g and phone at the same time.

runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.

tgruendler said:
I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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Exactly why WiMaxx 4G was established, to enable that capability.
GSM is only able to achieve this because they have HSPA for the data side if i'm not mistaken.
Sprints already in the works on switching to LTE 4G, I wonder if they can just make it a hybrid WiMaxx/LTE network and have a radio capable of using either...

So when Sprint switches to LTE, will the current 4G phones work still?

There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.

bkrodgers said:
There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
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Yeah I heard about this on Verizon side
And about 4G working after LTE deploy most likely unless they upgrade you for a free LTE device or a lawsuit lol
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runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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No, it is a huge limitation with cdma. Sprint isn't the only one with this limitation.

The tbolt is the only Verizon phone to offer it. It has svdo (?.) Technology. We wont be able to do it with an update.