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Will Verizon Lte network have any effect on the Fascinate?
Nope. You would have to have a different radio to be able to pick up the signal. Sadly we can't do this through a software update.
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The effect it will have is sadness. That LTE is so fast and we are 3g!!!
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As long as the LTE network isn't hooked up at the same places the current network is and they don't have to share any bandwidth between them, there won't be a difference. If one cable is carrying all the traffic from the current 3G system and the upcoming 4G network, there could be some slight slow down in data speeds, but that would be the only way it would affect you.
I live in the middle of nowhere, so LTE won't have an effect on any phone I buy for years to come.
If Verizon follows Sprint's lead, the fascinate may actually gain an advantage by not incurring the extra fees associated with LTE access (e.g. the EVO 4G)
I don't expect to see LTE penetration beyond the biggest urban markets for quite some time (remember how slow 3g spread?)
This is me just thinking, but the LTE rollout may actually help us a bit. My reasoning in this is that some of the load will be lifted off of 3g when people start moving to LTE, giving us more bandwidth. Thats just me thinking though.
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I live in the middle of nowhere, so LTE won't have an effect on any phone I buy for years to come.
If Verizon follows Sprint's lead, the fascinate may actually gain an advantage by not incurring the extra fees associated with LTE access (e.g. the EVO 4G)
I don't expect to see LTE penetration beyond the biggest urban markets for quite some time (remember how slow 3g spread?)
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Negative on that. Actually LTE is to cover 110 million people by the end of the year alone, and full penetration (97% of territory) by 2013. I see their efforts ramped up much more this time around
I'm the primary on my families plan so I just have to wait a year and I get to upgrade so hopefully by them 4G well be in my area and there still be some legit 4G phones to choose from.
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This is true indeed...probably would take some time to lighten bw loads, but caps would be raised eventually and 3g speeds would increase some
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This is me just thinking, but the LTE rollout may actually help us a bit. My reasoning in this is that some of the load will be lifted off of 3g when people start moving to LTE, giving us more bandwidth. Thats just me thinking though.
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Agreed, however this depends on how quickly they get phones rolling out, but I think by then we will also want to be on lte phones.
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Agreed, however this depends on how quickly they get phones rolling out, but I think by then we will also want to be on lte phones.
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LTE phones will appear at earliest Feb or March of next year, and thats a best case scenario....
The new LTE network is ran on a seperate fiber from the current 3g network. 3g is T1 based, LTE is ethernet. One will not affect the other.
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snapounds said:
The new LTE network is ran on a seperate fiber from the current 3g network. 3g is T1 based, LTE is ethernet. One will not affect the other.
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This is "somewhat" true. Yes, LTE is on the ethernet backhaul network (requirement for LTE). But a good portion of the country also has EVDO on ethernet as well.
Bummer... I was hoping that much like the Tmobile network it would help our phones... Thank you for the information.
Lte requires sim cards right? So hopefully after sprint makes the upgrade to lte, we'll be able to buy sprint phones and use a sim card from any of the big 4! Dream come true in america, emirite?
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Sorry, meant we can buy any lte phone unlocked*
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That's what I heard. And supposedly it's not the micro ones either.
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Lte requires sim cards right? So hopefully after sprint makes the upgrade to lte, we'll be able to buy sprint phones and use a sim card from any of the big 4! Dream come true in america, emirite?
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Not really...AT&T and Verizon are both going FDD-LTE on the 700mhz band...Sprint will get TD-LTE on the 2.5ghz~ range....
T-Mobile is going on their own HSPA/LTE hybrid variant...
So while Verizon and AT&T phones might be interchangeable (assuming they dont lock them say via some other method)..Sprint and T-Mobile will not be part of that...
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Not really...AT&T and Verizon are both going FDD-LTE on the 700mhz band...Sprint will get TD-LTE on the 2.5ghz~ range....
T-Mobile is going on their own HSPA/LTE hybrid variant...
So while Verizon and AT&T phones might be interchangeable (assuming they dont lock them say via some other method)..Sprint and T-Mobile will not be part of that...
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.......my heart.
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Not really...AT&T and Verizon are both going FDD-LTE on the 700mhz band...Sprint will get TD-LTE on the 2.5ghz~ range....
T-Mobile is going on their own HSPA/LTE hybrid variant...
So while Verizon and AT&T phones might be interchangeable (assuming they dont lock them say via some other method)..Sprint and T-Mobile will not be part of that...
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So which one would be better?
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So which one would be better?
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Better in terms of?
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So which one would be better?
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Verizons lte is on par with wimax so i assume that sprints would be better when they get it
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And higher spectrum means better building penetration, right?
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.......my heart.
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Well its not impossible for a device to support both TD-LTE and FD-LTE on a single chipset..but we would then have to buy international phones..cause knowing carriers they either won't include those bands or lock them :/
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And higher spectrum means better building penetration, right?
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700mhz is better building penetration over 2.5ghz..BUT how TD-LTE is allows carriers to use more spectrum...right now AT&T and Verizon plan to run it in 20mhz worth of spectrum each..realistically speaking that would constrain quantity of users/amount of data...(hence the tiered data)
Sprint right now though is running wimax in 10mhz of spectrum though..and could run it in 30mhz if they please..
So realistically speaking its easier to run TD-LTE as more spectrum is available in comparison to FD-LTE running at the limited 700mhz spectrum..while 700mhz spectrum though will offer betetr building penetration/signal
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Well its not impossible for a device to support both TD-LTE and FD-LTE on a single chipset..but we would then have to buy international phones..cause knowing carriers they either won't include those bands or lock them :/
700mhz is better building penetration over 2.5ghz..BUT how TD-LTE is allows carriers to use more spectrum...right now AT&T and Verizon plan to run it in 20mhz worth of spectrum each..realistically speaking that would constrain quantity of users/amount of data...(hence the tiered data)
Sprint right now though is running wimax in 10mhz of spectrum though..and could run it in 30mhz if they please..
So realistically speaking its easier to run TD-LTE as more spectrum is available in comparison to FD-LTE running at the limited 700mhz spectrum..while 700mhz spectrum though will offer betetr building penetration/signal
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So its basically the 3g story again lol sprint has the better and same constant speeds no matter the load, but the signal won't be as strong lol. I can deal with that
And buyingunlocked international phones isn't bad...my friend only uses unlocked ones and they always have extra features compared to a branded one... and all he would have to do to activate it was slide his sim card in it. I hate how att/tmo users can effectively use any phone they want...I want this freedom with sprint/verizon
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So its basically the 3g story again lol sprint has the better and same constant speeds no matter the load, but the signal won't be as strong lol. I can deal with that
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Sprint's LTE will act like the current Wimax implementation because it'll be running at 2.5ghz. We all know how spotty it is, especially when indoors.
Verizon and AT&T, at 700mhz will act their current 3G service because it's very close to 800mhz. They'll probably have an easier time getting better coverage because they know the 800mhz frequency.
Personally, I'd rather be at 700mhz for LTE, at 2.5ghz, you lose to much coverage and I'm sure Verizon already has the limited bandwidth figure out. If they didn't they could be throwing billions of dollars down the tube.
I can't wait for Verizon handsets to hit the market. My Sprint contract just expired so I'm looking to jump ship.
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So its basically the 3g story again lol sprint has the better and same constant speeds no matter the load, but the signal won't be as strong lol. I can deal with that
And buyingunlocked international phones isn't bad...my friend only uses unlocked ones and they always have extra features compared to a branded one... and all he would have to do to activate it was slide his sim card in it. I hate how att/tmo users can effectively use any phone they want...I want this freedom with sprint/verizon
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Well yes and no..thing is most international phones dont have the AT&T 3g band and don't have AWS (most common t-mobile 3g band) on same band as T-Mobile
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Sprint's LTE will act like the current Wimax implementation because it'll be running at 2.5ghz. We all know how spotty it is, especially when indoors.
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As I said its spotty because right now..
1) sprint is using only 10mhz of spectrum...
2) They are doing minimum deployments..aka the need mroe towers but being cheap...
Verizon and AT&T, at 700mhz will act their current 3G service because it's very close to 800mhz. They'll probably have an easier time getting better coverage because they know the 800mhz frequency.
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um..what?!?!
Personally, I'd rather be at 700mhz for LTE, at 2.5ghz, you lose to much coverage and I'm sure Verizon already has the limited bandwidth figure out. If they didn't they could be throwing billions of dollars down the tube.
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Yes its called Tiered Data plans...not fun...
Anyway, wouldn't the first crop of Verizon LTE phones still rely on 1x for voice and 3G EVDO/LTE for data?
So basically we're going to have a scenario where a Verizon LTE phone would be something like this CDMA 2000 1x/1900mhz EVDO/700mhz LTE,
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an ATT LTE phone might be like Quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS 1900 (HSPA?)/700mhz LTE?
My 2 cents vzw & att are double what we pay for a premium phone service on sprint and not unlimited anything also have bad coverage. They nickel & dime the crap out of you on top of it. Also wimax has voice calling capabilities not just data. Lte for some reason can only do data. So maybe some new features with voice calling with wimax.
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jbadboy2007 said:
My 2 cents vzw & att are double what we pay for a premium phone service on sprint and not unlimited anything also have bad coverage. They nickel & dime the crap out of you on top of it. Also wimax has voice calling capabilities not just data. Lte for some reason can only do data. So maybe some new features with voice calling with wimax.
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Wimax for voice calling? I find that scary. In its current iteration its flaky enough just for data. I shudder to think how crappy voice calling would be on it. They seriously need to build it out a ton more. I walk in my house signal disappears....not encouraging.
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Wimax for voice calling? I find that scary. In its current iteration its flaky enough just for data. I shudder to think how crappy voice calling would be on it. They seriously need to build it out a ton more. I walk in my house signal disappears....not encouraging.
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At least you are lucky enough to have coverage...
Wimax doesnt do voice.....on the other hand, att and tmo 3g is voice/data
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Yes, the specifications for Voice over LTE have not been finished yet.
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Wimax for voice calling? I find that scary. In its current iteration its flaky enough just for data. I shudder to think how crappy voice calling would be on it. They seriously need to build it out a ton more. I walk in my house signal disappears....not encouraging.
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Sprint is working on making a seamless radio..aka unlike now where you need to enable/disable 4g it would work in a way that even if 4g is disconnected your session would not be interrupted...same for calls..
LTE doesn't require a SIM card...Verizon is CDMA
It’s now confirmed. Bell has released a statement indicating that the Motorola ATRIX is going to be available on March 17th. As for the price points: $169.95 on a 3-year (with a minimum $50 voice/data plan) or for $599.95 on no-contract. Bell will also sell the Lapdock and the HD Multimedia Dock but no word on those prices were announced.
Specs of this Android have it coming with OS 2.2 with Motoblur, 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual-Core processor, 1GB RAM and 1930 mAh battery, Flash Player 10.1, 5-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash and 720p HD video recording, VGA front-facing camera, holds up to 48GB with a microSD card (16GB internal and optional 32GB), WiFi.
Who’s buying?
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-motorola-atrix-march-17th-for-599-95/
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
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Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
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It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
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It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
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HA!
You obviously don't know Canadian cell phone carriers. Bell removed FFC's from some Samsung phones. Did you notice... 3 year contract. AT&T ... 2 year.
Think AT&T is bad... at least you have real choice in the states.
yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
As an american living in canada the US has far better cell phone service, I just wish motorola made a version that worked on wind because that's what I use... 40/mo for unlimited voice/texts/data is too hard to beat =)
Still, it's nice to see they're releasing it so soon after the US release, usually canada has to wait MONTHS for a phone to hit their side of the border.
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yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
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They are great. If you live in a metropolitan area. I'm juuust outside Oshawa, the Wind Zone ends 3 blocks from my house. Not good if I'm getting say groceries and need to call home to see if my wife needs something.
Or travelling. As much as I hate Rogers, my data usage in the states comes off my monthly balance
Well captivate owners waited months hoping for a hsupa modem from its canadian brother....no dice
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
Pretty sure you can get an unlock code for any phone out there... just a matter of price. In Toronto you can just go to pacific mall and a ton of places can get it for 10 bucks or so. There's some online sites that work too but it's a bit riskier.
It'll most likely be the same exact phone that AT&T has in terms of hardware since Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same 3G frequencies now.
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
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I'm definitely buying this beast. Hoping to get it on the 17th. Been waiting since CES...
4G is a marketing gimic that means whatever you want it to.
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Here's hoping we can extract the bell atrix's firmware and flash it on the gringo version to enable faster upload speeds. Designgears, what do you think?
Confirmed from Bell:
Here are the connectivity details:
•HSPA –global access
•GPRS / EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
•UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA
He'll let me know how I can unlock it in the next email...
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And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/03/02/bell-hspa-4g-network.html
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
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The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
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I definately dont get 3mbs
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Well, getting an unlocked, rooted Atrix 4G from the US will cost me CAD $650 ... while getting it locked from Bell would cost me CAD $600.... I'm not sure if $50 is worth worrying about unlockability and rooting...
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Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
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It's like how AT&T is doing it, calling their HSPA+ 4G.
I was wondering about rooting the Atrix. The AT&T version is already rooted, would the same rooting method work for the Bell version? Would this only work if they have the exact same firmware for 2.2? I remember when I manually install updates for my Nexus One, I had to wait for the AT&T update to come out since the firmware was different than the TMo version. This was before the versions were merged. So I'm wondering if this is the case? Or does this have no relevance?
Will be getting the Bell's Atrix on the 17!
will this work on tmobile's 3G?
4g wimax/ LTE both?
Got the epic a few weeks ago and the display sheet for the phone showed wimax and lte but the evo didn't. So I asked the sale person if it is a typo and he said no. The phone would need just the software to enable the LTE. He asked a co worker and he said the same. Does the epic actually have a wimax/lte enabled chip or are they just going by a typo? Was just wondering as I know sprint is looking at LTE now.
Highly doubt it...there isn't much of a way to get a sim card in the phone...
A combination flustercuck of a typo and reps who don't know what they were talking about.
Epic has no LTE hardware.
I figured they were stupid. I figured if they really put both chips in here the cost would be more kinda like a global phone. Would be cool though if they would and allowed us to use verizons lte just like roaming on the 3g side.
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Highly doubt it...there isn't much of a way to get a sim card in the phone...
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Lte doesn't need sim cards and he didn't say gsm say your response is not valid. I'm not 100% on this but all sprint has to do for lte is switch out very minor things. The only difference with our phones is the spectrum it is looking for. So since we have 4g and maybe the software can make it lte. Its possible I think.
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Lte doesn't need sim cards and he didn't say gsm say your response is not valid. I'm not 100% on this but all sprint has to do for lte is switch out very minor things. The only difference with our phones is the spectrum it is looking for. So since we have 4g and maybe the software can make it lte. Its possible I think.
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Doesn't LTE require a sim card though? I remember seeing a sim card on the thunderbolt
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Lte is using sim cards...at least on verizon's implementation.
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I bet that will allow lte roaming on att/tmobile one day then. Dang.
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I bet that will allow lte roaming on att/tmobile one day then. Dang.
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Never. Different spectrum used and even then ATT and Verizon have no reason to sign roaming agreements when they are each others biggest competitors.
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Lte doesn't need sim cards and he didn't say gsm say your response is not valid. I'm not 100% on this but all sprint has to do for lte is switch out very minor things. The only difference with our phones is the spectrum it is looking for. So since we have 4g and maybe the software can make it lte. Its possible I think.
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Uh Huh...show me an implementation for LTE that doesn't use a Sim card for network authentication.
I mean GSM doesn't "Require" a sim either, that can be spoofed with hardware...just sayin.
I mean at least in for me, I have put 32 Sim cards in Verizon Pantec UX260 USB Aircards for some reason....
They can configure these phones however they want. We have 4g with no sim card. 4g is almost exactly the same thing as lte just different frequency that's all.
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How about this article where they state what Sprint has said on the matter?
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They can configure these phones however they want. We have 4g with no sim card. 4g is almost exactly the same thing as lte just different frequency that's all.
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Ummm no...the entire protocol is different.
there are currently 3 popular 4g implementations.
HSPA+ with Extended Backhaul (ATT, Tmo)
LTE (VZW, Metro, non national carriers, EVENTUALLY ATT and Tmo on different freqs)
WiMax (Sprint)
The only thing these share is the 4G monicker. The technologies are enitrely different, the protocol is entirely different, the modems are entirely different.
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HSPA+ with Extended Backhaul (ATT, Tmo)
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FTFY. AT&T's HSPA+ is very slow - there's no additional capacity or speed to be had.
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How about this article where they state what Sprint has said on the matter?
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well...i wonder how true that article is...if it could just be a switch on the towers and a software patch it would be nice
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well...i wonder how true that article is...if it could just be a switch on the towers and a software patch it would be nice
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It would be nice cuz we paid a lot money for a 4g phone that some of us don't even have 4g like in San Diego I would be very mad cuz we where promise 4g by the end of this year
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I saw. Some company announcing a dual lte/wimax chip about 6 months ago. Since the modem controls these chips it isn't a far stretch to have software that will switch modems as needed.
According to a seemingly knowledgeable manager I met with (he was down with rooting and xda lol) wimax is compatable with lte with a software update. But, honestly I doubt it.
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According to a seemingly knowledgeable manager I met with (he was down with rooting and xda lol) wimax is compatable with lte with a software update. But, honestly I doubt it.
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That's what the 2 best buy employees said. Wasnt sure as most there are there for the money and know nothing. I asked if the evo had the LTE chip too as it wasnt listed and they said no but the Epic did. I couldnt imagine sprint leaving people hanging in today's phone battles. I will have to ask a store manager if they work there and see if they have any knowledge of it yet or if we will be able to roam. I thought LTE was near the same freq. for sprint and verizon with sprint just having the larger freq bandwidth due to LTE WIMAX.
This came up back when WiMAX was first being introduced. I remember the CEO for Clear said multiple times that the WiMAX infrastructure was software "swappable" to LTE. It wouldn't surprise me if phones were the same.
I just saw this;
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-announces-q2-earnings-new-lte-data-deal-lightsquared
So if they are going to start rolling out LTE in 2012, will there have to be new phones made for that network? I assume that our Epics will not be able to connect to that.
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I just saw this;
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-announces-q2-earnings-new-lte-data-deal-lightsquared
So if they are going to start rolling out LTE in 2012, will there have to be new phones made for that network? I assume that our Epics will not be able to connect to that.
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This was discussed before and our phones can support LTE via a software upgrade, supposedly.
what nobody is talking about is that sprint hemmoraged money and customers this quarter too.
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This was discussed before and our phones can support LTE via a software upgrade, supposedly.
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Well that's good to hear.
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Well that's good to hear.
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But our.phones are EOL in october
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This was discussed before and our phones can support LTE via a software upgrade, supposedly.
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I hate to beat a dead horse but, the only LTE that our phones could support is 2500mhz (clearwire) lte. Even this, however, is unlikely.
Lightsquared will be using 1400 to 1600mhz for their network.
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Hence the EOL
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Does anyone know what phones they have now that will work?
Within has like 3 chips in there. I don't know if anyone else noticed that in the schematic.
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Does anyone know what phones they have now that will work?
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The only smartphone that will work with network vision 800mhz cdma is the evo 3D.
None of the phones Sprint currently is selling are fcc approved to work on 1400-1600mhz lte.
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Why didn't they just use their own 800 mhz for LTE instead of 1400 or 1600? I guess it's still better than 2500. Or are they going to use 800 and 1400 and 1600? I'm eligible for upgrade in March 2013. Do you think LTE will be out by then?
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Why didn't they just use their own 800 mhz for LTE instead of 1400 or 1600? I guess it's still better than 2500. Or are they going to use 800 and 1400 and 1600? I'm eligible for upgrade in March 2013. Do you think LTE will be out by then?
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according to the article, it will start by 2012 and should be full go by 2014. I am sure by then they will have phones that support it.
By then verizon will have lte over the entire US
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Lawsuit
First of all aren't we all paying the additional $10 a month just to have a phone capable of 4G service?
If this phone doesn't receive the new 4G service as advertised whenI bought the device, I expect a new free phone that does otherwise I will not hesitate to start a suit. This is bull****.
Ummm..not to burst any bubbles, but the 15 year deal with lightsquared isn't a plan to roll out consumer LTE on Sprints network (yet). Those details are to be announced in the fall.
This current deal is actually a money maker for sprint. Sprint will be taking over the deployment of an LTE network that lightsquared will be wholeselling (presumably to multiple carriers), and in return lightsquared will be paying sprint for that service. So as it stands right now, it's simply a source of income for Sprint (almost like being a contracter). However, Sprint will also be receiving purchasing "credits" to possibly buy some of that network. Just keep in mind that the network will still be owned by lightsquared. So don't jump to any conclusions just yet.
All the details were outlined in our employee meeting.
Also, our phones radio is rated as being capable of utililizing the 800mhz band, FWIW. And EOL only means end of production, not neccessarily support.
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spartasr said:
First of all aren't we all paying the additional $10 a month just to have a phone capable of 4G service?
If this phone doesn't receive the new 4G service as advertised whenI bought the device, I expect a new free phone that does otherwise I will not hesitate to start a suit. This is bull****.
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that extra $10 is on all smartphones, 4g or not. It's for the amount of data a smartphone uses over a standard phone. It's sprint's answer to throttling. It's got nothing to do with 4g
also, I wouldn't worry about any phone coming out in the next year working on LTE. They may, may not, but right now sprint is still very much wi-max. Also, Lightsquared already has multiple satellites in place, so once they do flip the switch, the 4g network will already have more coverage than wi-max
They arent just gonna shut wimax off. By the time it gets phased out im sure that all of us will have new devices.
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austin420 said:
what nobody is talking about is that sprint hemmoraged money and customers this quarter too.
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Will Sprint survive?
Wizard Knight said:
that extra $10 is on all smartphones, 4g or not. It's for the amount of data a smartphone uses over a standard phone. It's sprint's answer to throttling. It's got nothing to do with 4g
also, I wouldn't worry about any phone coming out in the next year working on LTE. They may, may not, but right now sprint is still very much wi-max. Also, Lightsquared already has multiple satellites in place, so once they do flip the switch, the 4g network will already have more coverage than wi-max
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Correct, but I believe Sprint is in position to deploy the lte network faster than we think.
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Jayavarman said:
Will Sprint survive?
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Yep. Hesse is shrewd.