talk and internet at the same time? - EVO 4G General

So anybody heard about the new evo update allowing them to talk and be on the internet at the same time?

Haven't heard anything about that, have been able to do that if using 4G or WiFi.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.

tgruendler said:
It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
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jgalan14 said:
Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
+1 i hope sprint comes out with this kinda phone
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You could probably do that with groove ip and ur Google number, u would just chew up data opposed u minutes, I have only used this over WiFi, but it should work over 3g also
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bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol

Mark_Hardware said:
I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I am moderately surprised this hasn't happened yet. Given that we have a wifi chip, an FM receiver, bluetooth, 3G, 4G...some phones have had FM transceivers as well, NFC, etc....
I am not surprised, however, because bandwidth is very limited...we're not talking back-haul, we're talking actual radio wave space....I'm dying to know what breakthrough will come along to alleviate that.
If anyone wonders why your mobile internet sucks it's oversaturation....not of the back-haul line that connects the cells to the backbone but of the very air itself as allocated. There's only so much physical space in them airs. Too may people, not enough frequencies, bands are too narrow, too many things need their own band.

It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.

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It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755.
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HAHA no you didn't. It's a limitation with cdma, you CANNOT use 3g and phone at the same time.

runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.

tgruendler said:
I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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Exactly why WiMaxx 4G was established, to enable that capability.
GSM is only able to achieve this because they have HSPA for the data side if i'm not mistaken.
Sprints already in the works on switching to LTE 4G, I wonder if they can just make it a hybrid WiMaxx/LTE network and have a radio capable of using either...

So when Sprint switches to LTE, will the current 4G phones work still?

There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.

bkrodgers said:
There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
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Yeah I heard about this on Verizon side
And about 4G working after LTE deploy most likely unless they upgrade you for a free LTE device or a lawsuit lol
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runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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No, it is a huge limitation with cdma. Sprint isn't the only one with this limitation.

The tbolt is the only Verizon phone to offer it. It has svdo (?.) Technology. We wont be able to do it with an update.

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Sprint May Get The iPhone 4?? :0

This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Hoping the paper boy comes by to give me some good newsssss.....
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jm5503 said:
This article suggests that its a definite possibility. How do u guys think this will affect Android and our beloved Evo's????
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375576,00.asp
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Dan Hesse would probably get on his knees for the iPhone. $69.99 for the iPhone 4 on the Everything Data plan would take Sprint to new heights.
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
Ill get the iphone i used to have it when i was on att
uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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uniquenameevo said:
I just don't want it crippling the network. I can see using my upgrade for it if nothing makes me want to leave the evo. Can you imagine the craigslist price on launch?
Wonder if they would put it out as the first 3G only phone with a premium data charge?
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You bring up a good point. I can't see how they could justify a $10 fee on a 3G phone. Lets pretend that the iPhone is a sure thing if they want it, I could see them either being greedy as hell and attaching the fee anyway, or not carrying it until there's a 4G version. If it's the latter, you probably wont see a iPhone on Sprint until they (if they every)change to LTE or Apple includes a WiMax version (which is unlikely).
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
novanosis85 said:
We can hack the cdma iphone to work on our sprint network, correct?
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Hmmm. You might be able to swap the ESN of a Sprint smartphone and get away with it. Of course it'd be illegal to do that.
novanosis85 said:
You mean apple is a horrible company that won't add wimax support?!!!!
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Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
edgemaster191 said:
Apple would announce the iPhone 5 with "AppleSPEED" and would be "revolutionary" meanwhile WiMax/4G will have been out for 3 years...
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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lol not doubting there will be an LTE iPhone, just saying they will make some huge announcement about how it's the greatest thing ever and brand it in someway that will make it look like they developed LTE/4G from the ground up, meanwhile they're the last one to the 4G party
Noiro said:
Nope, otherwise you'd have seen Droids on Sprint.
Ironically you can have Sprint phones on Verizon. Unfair I know but "dems da brakes."
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Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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CDMA doesn't have SIM cards (well at least not here). You have to activate your phone via the carrier and ESN number of the phone. Sprint will only activate ESNs that are in their system (just Sprint phones).
iceflow420 said:
Forgive me, I come from the GSM side of cellular, but why wouldn't this be possible? I can take an AT&T iPhone (800/1900MHz) and run it on T-Mobile (1900MHz). It should be possible to flop any Verizon (800/1900MHz) to Sprint(1900/2100MHz). Again, I am fairly new to the CDMA side of mobile so it is quite possible I am missing something obvious.
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It's easy with gsm phones cuz of sim cards (except the iPhone). We have phone specific esn numbers attached to Sprint's network.
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With Verizon and AT&T both scheduled to have LTE networks by Summer time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the iPhone 5 be LTE ready. That's 1 year after the EVO w/ WiMax.
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The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
uniquenameevo said:
The first CDMA version will be 3G only. Four months later, millions of Verizon customers will upgrade at full price to get LTE.
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That's the iPhone product cycle in general. There were probably a ton of people who bought AT&T iPhone 4's today despite the looming unveiling of the iPhone 5.
Funny how my thread got epically trashed by noobs and trolls, yet this thread that is discussing the same thing seems clean. inb4 trolls log on and start acting like retards.
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
The only reason ESN was even made illegal was to stop people siphoning money from the companies and such, but since you own both the device and the service plan, i dont think they can do anything to you. And im pretty sure if the cdma iphone were to be dropped, it would be unlocked within matter of hours, and then modified for sprint and all the other cdma services within a matter of days.
What i want to know, is if someone can actually hardmod the phone to enable sprint wimax, or verizon lte on it? (most likely not since iOS is closed source, but still possible)
Last-Chance said:
As far as ESN cloning goes, from what I know, its only illegal if you use it avoid your payments and do deceptive things with it, but if you are actually paying for your service, then i don't think you can get in trouble for it.
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Changing the ESN is a very gray area. BUT changing the operating frequency of a transmitter is a whole other ball of wax(which you would going between Sprint, and Verizon or AT&T, and T-Mobile. Once you change the operating frequency that the transmitter was certified for it loses it's FCC Type Acceptance. It is no longer in the eyes of the FCC a legal phone. Now doing it to equipment on bands outside the cellphone allocations the FCC really doesn't monitor, or enforce unless someone complains. Fart around on aircraft, cellphone, and govt/military you will be paid a very personal visit by an FCC agent (and in this day and age the local swat team, and reps from various three lettered agencies).
FYI the only FCC licensed radio operator that can modify transmitters (or build for their personal use) for operation (within spec) on their allocated frequencies are Radio Amateurs. Once that radio has been modded it can no longer be used outside the Radio Amateur Bands.

HTC Thunderbolt Voice/Data simultaneously over 3G?

what!!!!?!?!!?
Thunderbolt review
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/htc-thunderbolt-review/
The HTC ThunderBolt is able to send and receive data and carry voice calls simultaneously. It the first of many Verizon Wireless smartphones that will be able to carry voice calls while moving data, and it can do so over Verizon’s new 4G LTE network as well as its older 3G EVDO network. I tested this capability a great deal over the past week, and it has worked flawlessly for me. Whether connected to 3G or 4G, apps and web pages on the ThunderBolt continue to hustle along while voice calls are being made. I’m not sure if this new technology plays a role in the noticeably degraded audio quality I noted above, but the functionality is there so and many users will be elated.
either i am miss understanding this part or verizon enabled something to allow voice/data over their 3g cdma network
IceCreaMan said:
what!!!!?!?!!?
Thunderbolt review
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/htc-thunderbolt-review/
The HTC ThunderBolt is able to send and receive data and carry voice calls simultaneously. It the first of many Verizon Wireless smartphones that will be able to carry voice calls while moving data, and it can do so over Verizon’s new 4G LTE network as well as its older 3G EVDO network. I tested this capability a great deal over the past week, and it has worked flawlessly for me. Whether connected to 3G or 4G, apps and web pages on the ThunderBolt continue to hustle along while voice calls are being made. I’m not sure if this new technology plays a role in the noticeably degraded audio quality I noted above, but the functionality is there so and many users will be elated.
either i am miss understanding this part or verizon enabled something to allow voice/data over their 3g cdma network
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Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
Happy to hear it...just ordered my tbolt. Should be here tomorrow. I never used the feature but since i can now....im sure i will use it alot.
Thats pretty neat....but it sucks that you cant turn off 4g....and battery life using LTE and the Thunderbolt seems to be on par with Wimax and the Evo.
TonyArmstrong said:
Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
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My touch, pro 2 had svdo
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skillzo1 said:
Happy to hear it...just ordered my tbolt. Should be here tomorrow. I never used the feature but since i can now....im sure i will use it alot.
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You canceled your sprint account?
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TonyArmstrong said:
Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
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Ahh sweet! Come on Sprint
DarkManX4lf said:
Thats pretty neat....but it sucks that you cant turn off 4g....and battery life using LTE and the Thunderbolt seems to be on par with Wimax and the Evo.
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Most ppl have been using the app "Phone Info" from the market to force the phone to use CDMA/EvDO data which turns of the 4g radio
Later today i am...waiting for my tbolt in the mail. Im tired of sprints data issues.
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You canceled your sprint account?
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It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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You can do the same with wifi
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JUST2SUAVE said:
You can do the same with wifi
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Werd.....
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Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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Except that you can find ways of turning off LTE and using just EVDO, saving battery and the annoyance of having to constantly turn on WiMax.
Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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You can do the same with wifi
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Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
IceCreaMan said:
Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
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You might need to check that boat schedule, yourself. The 3G and LTE antennas/radios are separate, just like Sprint's 3G and 4G. So, if you live on a market that Verizon has yet to light up their LTE and you'll be in the same boat.
I would hazard a guess that the reason you've not seen either Verizon or Sprint actually promote simultanious voice/data as AT&T does is that it's limited to markets where they've lit up LTE/4G.
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Vegasden said:
You might need to check that boat schedule, yourself. The 3G and LTE antennas/radios are separate, just like Sprint's 3G and 4G. So, if you live on a market that Verizon has yet to light up their LTE and you'll be in the same boat.
I would hazard a guess that the reason you've not seen either Verizon or Sprint actually promote simultanious voice/data as AT&T does is that it's limited to markets where they've lit up LTE/4G.
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That's assuming that this isn't SVDO which is 3G/EVDO and completely unrelated to LTE.
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That's assuming that this isn't SVDO which is 3G/EVDO and completely unrelated to LTE.
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This is exactly what's going on.
Verizon is rolling out SVDO, as I mentioned earlier. Proof comes from the following link: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/simultaneous-voice-data-coming-to-cdma
It can be -- and is apparently being -- done.
IceCreaMan said:
Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
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Area with no wifi? If I'm in my house I have it. or in any cafe also
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JUST2SUAVE said:
Area with no wifi? If I'm in my house I have it. or in any cafe also
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A whole two places? Amazing.
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A whole two places? Amazing.
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Every where in my city has wifi, you must live in a cave or the mountains.
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Wimax/LTE chip?

4g wimax/ LTE both?
Got the epic a few weeks ago and the display sheet for the phone showed wimax and lte but the evo didn't. So I asked the sale person if it is a typo and he said no. The phone would need just the software to enable the LTE. He asked a co worker and he said the same. Does the epic actually have a wimax/lte enabled chip or are they just going by a typo? Was just wondering as I know sprint is looking at LTE now.
Highly doubt it...there isn't much of a way to get a sim card in the phone...
A combination flustercuck of a typo and reps who don't know what they were talking about.
Epic has no LTE hardware.
I figured they were stupid. I figured if they really put both chips in here the cost would be more kinda like a global phone. Would be cool though if they would and allowed us to use verizons lte just like roaming on the 3g side.
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Highly doubt it...there isn't much of a way to get a sim card in the phone...
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Lte doesn't need sim cards and he didn't say gsm say your response is not valid. I'm not 100% on this but all sprint has to do for lte is switch out very minor things. The only difference with our phones is the spectrum it is looking for. So since we have 4g and maybe the software can make it lte. Its possible I think.
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Lte doesn't need sim cards and he didn't say gsm say your response is not valid. I'm not 100% on this but all sprint has to do for lte is switch out very minor things. The only difference with our phones is the spectrum it is looking for. So since we have 4g and maybe the software can make it lte. Its possible I think.
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Doesn't LTE require a sim card though? I remember seeing a sim card on the thunderbolt
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http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...YQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNGVHbjKzqjmuBU-GpssbLsI8KIueg
Lte is using sim cards...at least on verizon's implementation.
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I bet that will allow lte roaming on att/tmobile one day then. Dang.
Txdaredvl said:
I bet that will allow lte roaming on att/tmobile one day then. Dang.
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Never. Different spectrum used and even then ATT and Verizon have no reason to sign roaming agreements when they are each others biggest competitors.
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jbadboy2007 said:
Lte doesn't need sim cards and he didn't say gsm say your response is not valid. I'm not 100% on this but all sprint has to do for lte is switch out very minor things. The only difference with our phones is the spectrum it is looking for. So since we have 4g and maybe the software can make it lte. Its possible I think.
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Uh Huh...show me an implementation for LTE that doesn't use a Sim card for network authentication.
I mean GSM doesn't "Require" a sim either, that can be spoofed with hardware...just sayin.
I mean at least in for me, I have put 32 Sim cards in Verizon Pantec UX260 USB Aircards for some reason....
They can configure these phones however they want. We have 4g with no sim card. 4g is almost exactly the same thing as lte just different frequency that's all.
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How about this article where they state what Sprint has said on the matter?
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They can configure these phones however they want. We have 4g with no sim card. 4g is almost exactly the same thing as lte just different frequency that's all.
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Ummm no...the entire protocol is different.
there are currently 3 popular 4g implementations.
HSPA+ with Extended Backhaul (ATT, Tmo)
LTE (VZW, Metro, non national carriers, EVENTUALLY ATT and Tmo on different freqs)
WiMax (Sprint)
The only thing these share is the 4G monicker. The technologies are enitrely different, the protocol is entirely different, the modems are entirely different.
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HSPA+ with Extended Backhaul (ATT, Tmo)
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FTFY. AT&T's HSPA+ is very slow - there's no additional capacity or speed to be had.
Gersonian said:
How about this article where they state what Sprint has said on the matter?
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well...i wonder how true that article is...if it could just be a switch on the towers and a software patch it would be nice
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well...i wonder how true that article is...if it could just be a switch on the towers and a software patch it would be nice
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It would be nice cuz we paid a lot money for a 4g phone that some of us don't even have 4g like in San Diego I would be very mad cuz we where promise 4g by the end of this year
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I saw. Some company announcing a dual lte/wimax chip about 6 months ago. Since the modem controls these chips it isn't a far stretch to have software that will switch modems as needed.
According to a seemingly knowledgeable manager I met with (he was down with rooting and xda lol) wimax is compatable with lte with a software update. But, honestly I doubt it.
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According to a seemingly knowledgeable manager I met with (he was down with rooting and xda lol) wimax is compatable with lte with a software update. But, honestly I doubt it.
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That's what the 2 best buy employees said. Wasnt sure as most there are there for the money and know nothing. I asked if the evo had the LTE chip too as it wasnt listed and they said no but the Epic did. I couldnt imagine sprint leaving people hanging in today's phone battles. I will have to ask a store manager if they work there and see if they have any knowledge of it yet or if we will be able to roam. I thought LTE was near the same freq. for sprint and verizon with sprint just having the larger freq bandwidth due to LTE WIMAX.
This came up back when WiMAX was first being introduced. I remember the CEO for Clear said multiple times that the WiMAX infrastructure was software "swappable" to LTE. It wouldn't surprise me if phones were the same.

Sprint switcing from Wimax

Well as many of you read on Engadget about Sprint switching from WiMax to LTE. Well naturally being curious, while I was stopping by my parents house on the way home I asked my dad who worked in telecom for most of my life doing contract work for Sprint. He now has since moved out telecom to some other department, but he still keeps up with his telecom friends who do contracting work for Sprint. Anyways back to the point I asked if these rumors were true. He said Yes they are switching from WiMax, but not to what and that Samsung is providing the equipment. If i find out anymore information I will let you know.
i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
omgzilla85 said:
i dont really know anything about the 4g radio in my evo, but would it still work on LTE?
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Everything would still work on the phone but the 4G LTE.
There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
evilware said:
There aren't phasing out WiMax yet from what it sounds like, but since the Evo 4G wasn't designed with LTE in mind then no the LTE won't work on the Evo.
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but does this mean that they are going to stop expanding the 4g network, and focus only on getting LTE up in more places? this is kind of a kick in the balls for people who just bought 4g capable devices with sprint.
They'll probably continue to expand and run Wimax on 2.5 Ghz and run LTE in parallel on 850 Mhz.
The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
Bukem75 said:
The way I understand, you would be able to swap out cards in the towers to swap out from wimax to lte... At least on new towers. Is that true?
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Yes, but you can't swap out the hardware in your phone from wimax to LTE.
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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By the time this is completed, the Evo will be obsolete.
mbaseball3 said:
So sprint gonna issue new lte Evos to us? Lol I mean if this happens then I guess we all have grounds for leaving sprint without etf for them not holding up to their end of the contract....wimax. not saying I'd leave but I enjoy 4g.....on my Evo!
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No lol.. i am sure if you have 4g service you would still get it.
No offense but you have like 5 posts Including 2 in this thread, and you've been a member here just as long as I have pretty much...I'll believe it when I see it, and as ruge said, the evo will be the compare to as the nextel chirp phones back in the day and the razor, obsolete, trust me, no evo will have lte
the Evo 2A will have lte, I promise
Edit: I am changing this because I read this post wrong. You are right they are about to use Samsung products on the new towers but its not to change wimax, it is to make the towers more efficient and smaller. From what I was told they will use new technology which will allow them to add all services on one tower and be able to free up frequency to build out. It would not be imho to drop wimax because they will be the only ones to utilize it giving them an advantage in developing. Back on topic he is correct they are making upgrades and using new hardware within the towers but I think its imho to have voice/data simultaneous on a cdma network (a first) and they will do it with wimax 2 starting 2012...(that is just my opinion)
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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gamer4208 said:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Credit-Suisse-SprintLightsquared-Deal-to-be-Announced-Soon-113587
They seem pretty adamant on sprint moving to lte
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yes it will be BOTH, in years from now, which will be = 2 the razr in todays age
craigbailey1986 said:
This is complete bs as I know 2 top engineers working for sprint and neither have heard such news.... now I usually don't feed into this he say/she say because it won't change a thing but please don't spread speculations amongst the forum without having concrete facts. Sprint also stated recently they were keeping there 800 spectrum and making upgrades to it for business who utilize the "ptt" phones and not using it for lte. All it takes is a little reading....
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I believe I know the article you are referring to as it was in another thread on here and discussed the new PTT service they will use once IDEN is turned off and it will include more speeds and the likes for data.
The way I took the article was that the new PTT phones will take advantage of the new network upgrade they are performing i think its called Sprints Network vision. The multimode base-stations will be the key to it all.
In the end the change allows them to use all the networks more interchangably from what I understand.
I would not expect them to keep the 800MHz band for CDMA PTT. they stated that CDMA PTT phones will be out late this year and if thats the case and they were planning on having them run on the IDEN 800MHz band wouldn't IDEN need to be shut off first? I take it as the CDMA PTT phones will run on the regular network and use data form the 800MHz once they deploy LTE on that. they can't put WiMax on the 800MHz b/c WiMax isn't provisioned in that spectrum at this point.
As I stated in my edited reply it would not make sense to use technology the others are using because it would not make good marketing. Also wimax 2 will be out second quarter or half this year, can't recall, and around the exact same time frame for those new phones. Also the new hardware being supplied to sprint and their new plan is at the core of what wimax 2 is. Which is stated to give better download speed and efficiency thru multi data channels. The company supplying the hardware, Samsung, also The first company to test wimax 2 and said it got 130mbs download, but that's with no one else testing it. But you get the picture.... I hope
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My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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dirkyd3rk said:
My main issue with sprint is signal penetration. Once I get in a building or etc my signal just goes to ****. My coworkers have t-mobile and Verizon and they get full bars sitting next to me laughing at my 1 bar. It has been this way for years.
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Sorry to hear that... I also don't get good signal in certain places but hey each carrier has bad spots, when I am in the studio some artist who have iPhone or att don't have any service while myself and engineer have full bars, though he has Verizon
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anyone heard about this

i got a call from my buddy from sprint and he said in 20 days sprint is gonna buy and get verizons 4gLTE
anyone know if this is true or not.
i know that the nexus is getting a update hopefully this week that is suppose to boost 4g and wifi connection. so thats a bit of a hint
what you guys know about this
I have heard that they were going to be using LightSquared possibly. Not sure if that is VZWs LTE provider, but since Sprint uses VZWs 3G towers, I can't see why they won't strike a roaming contract with them again.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/analysis-sprint-inching-closer-lte-announcement/2011-06-20
Joey_UFC said:
i got a call from my buddy from sprint and he said in 20 days sprint is gonna buy and get verizons 4gLTE
anyone know if this is true or not.
i know that the nexus is getting a update hopefully this week that is suppose to boost 4g and wifi connection. so thats a bit of a hint
what you guys know about this
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An LTE roll out for Sprint will happen.
It's been talked about that Sprint may embrace both LTE and Wimax standards.
However, it's not an instant process and a phone would have to have an LTE radio to use the LTE band.
mattykinsx said:
An LTE roll out for Sprint will happen.
It's been talked about that Sprint may embrace both LTE and Wimax standards.
However, it's not an instant process and a phone would have to have an LTE radio to use the LTE band.
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so this isn't something we should be expecting in the 20 days i heard, or even soon for that matter
1 more thing, if sprint does get LTE, do they lose the wimax if they decide to no longer be with ClearWire?
Joey_UFC said:
so this isn't something we should be expecting in the 20 days i heard, or even soon for that matter
1 more thing, if sprint does get LTE, do they lose the wimax if they decide to no longer be with ClearWire?
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In 20 days some sort of deal might go down, or they might start some sort of project, but there's no way they can instantly switch and certainly not in such a short timeframe.
IF Sprint drops Clearwire then yes, Wimax would not work with Sprint phones.
It's been suggested that Sprint may go to quadband phones though.
Who knows. I'm not even sure Sprint does, which is part of the problem.
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In 20 days some sort of deal might go down, or they might start some sort of project, but there's no way they can instantly switch and certainly not in such a short timeframe.
IF Sprint drops Clearwire then yes, Wimax would not work with Sprint phones.
It's been suggested that Sprint may go to quadband phones though.
Who knows. I'm not even sure Sprint does, which is part of the problem.
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Well in the link he posted above, the article said that they plan on making a Sprint-Clearwire-LightSquared combination.
its a stretch to make it happen but its possible
Joey_UFC said:
Well in the link he posted above, the article said that they plan on making a Sprint-Clearwire-LightSquared combination.
its a stretch to make it happen but its possible
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I wouldn't doubt it.
Sounds like a good idea actually.
And it coincides with the idea that Sprint might just run both standards along side CDMA (which would eventually be phased out, eventually.)
Both LTE and Wimax have uses.
Why shouldn't both technologies be used for what they do best?
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I wouldn't doubt it.
Sounds like a good idea actually.
And it coincides with the idea that Sprint might just run both standards along side CDMA (which would eventually be phased out, eventually.)
Both LTE and Wimax have uses.
Why shouldn't both technologies be used for what they do best?
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ok just so i got this right and don't start rambling about things idk
LTE is 4g alone or is it Both 4g and Wimax.
cause if thats the case then why hold onto Clearwires Wimax?
Joey_UFC said:
ok just so i got this right and don't start rambling about things idk
LTE is 4g alone or is it Both 4g and Wimax.
cause if thats the case then why hold onto Clearwires Wimax?
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Neither are true "4g"
Both are just different technology standards (well not even standards lol).
Its just like wireless a, b, g or n.
Just different "standards" for wirelessly transfering data.
mattykinsx said:
Neither are true "4g"
Both are just different technology standards (well not even standards lol).
Its just like wireless a, b, g or n.
Just different "standards" for wirelessly transfering data.
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what do you mean by "true 4g"
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what do you mean by "true 4g"
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In 2009, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced) requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
Basically, 1 Gbit/s when not moving, 100mbit/s when moving and VOIP.
Everything runs through data.
Texting, Voice as well.
lte is awesome, if you use your phone as it comes out of box. ask any thunderbolt owner what happens when you throw an aosp rom on top of the lte radio...
mikeyinid said:
lte is awesome, if you use your phone as it comes out of box. ask any thunderbolt owner what happens when you throw an aosp rom on top of the lte radio...
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It has nothing to do with LTE and all to do with the spectrum used by Verizon.
Wimax would be just as "awesome" if at the same frequency.
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It has nothing to do with LTE and all to do with the spectrum used by Verizon.
Wimax would be just as "awesome" if at the same frequency.
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no, your not following me. im not talking about lte itself. im talking ril and the actual radio.

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