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WM 6.5 On The Touch HD?

Is it likely we will see the newly announced 6.5 as an update for the HD at any point?

Super Chimp said:
Is it likely we will see the newly announced 6.5 as an update for the HD at any point?
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Ballmer confirmed it exists today. Sources close to microsoft say RTM may go in the next month and it looks like this will see a Q1 release.
I would suggest it will be highly likely that the Touch will get an official Rom update. The HTC Rom update will be several months down the track of course
However, failing an official ROM update I would bet my soon to arrive Touch that there is a cooked ROM of the update. So eitherway you will be covered.

Osir1s said:
Ballmer confirmed it exists today. Sources close to microsoft say RTM may go in the next month and it looks like this will see a Q1 release.
I would suggest it will be highly likely that the Touch will get an official Rom update. The HTC Rom update will be several months down the track of course
However, failing an official ROM update I would bet my soon to arrive Touch that there is a cooked ROM of the update. So eitherway you will be covered.
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Thanks for that information.
As an aside how do software updates work on WM devices, I assume it's not like the update service used by S60 devices?

When you update your ROM, everything gets wiped so you have to put everything you want to keep (eg program config files, Word docs, pictures, videos, etc) on another storage medium.
Then connect your device using ActiveSync or Mobile Device Center and run the update. It'll then flash your device in about 5-10 mins.

Oppressa said:
When you update your ROM, everything gets wiped so you have to put everything you want to keep (eg program config files, Word docs, pictures, videos, etc) on another storage medium.
Then connect your device using ActiveSync or Mobile Device Center and run the update. It'll then flash your device in about 5-10 mins.
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Is the update flashed directly onto the devices ROM as with S60 by the update service?

Any pointers on where to get one of these cooked roms? HTC aren't planning to roll this out for those that have an HD. :-(

johnmcquay said:
Any pointers on where to get one of these cooked roms? HTC aren't planning to roll this out for those that have an HD. :-(
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erm, where have you looked?
did you try the Rom developers forum just under this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=453

Thank you for the head-s up. It took a lot of patience searching among this forum to get to it until you posted the link. I'm not surprised how popular these roms are, HTCs support isn't up to much.
There are a lot of allegedly supported features on that device that aren't supported or don't work. BT Pan, OBEX FTP to name but a couple...I'm not a huge Windows CE developer, but I'm working on it.

[Q] Traces of our HD2s still left behind?

Ok, so WP7 is working lovely, its reporting as a HD7 as far as we can see and MS sees it as an HD7 in the marketplace
So, how is it that if i look in "My pictures" on my computer i sync my phone with i see a folder called "From LEO70"
Number of posibilities i guess,
first being that im the only one who has this
or it happens because the phone was connected to zune before the reg edit
finally, Zune knows something we dont!
Im guessing number 2 if anyone else sees this?
Just curious really, because if there is something that is revealing our HD7 is infact a Leo i'd rather it didnt.

The answer is simple: You must have flashed the first WP7 for HD2 ever: It comes with the name "Leo70", which is also the model name inside the ROM.
The newer custom ROMs change the model name.
No need to worry. But maybe you might prefer to flash a custom ROM - almost all of them are jailbroken, too. Another big advantage.

dazza9075 said:
Ok, so WP7 is working lovely, its reporting as a HD7 as far as we can see and MS sees it as an HD7 in the marketplace
So, how is it that if i look in "My pictures" on my computer i sync my phone with i see a folder called "From LEO70"
Number of posibilities i guess,
first being that im the only one who has this
or it happens because the phone was connected to zune before the reg edit
finally, Zune knows something we dont!
Im guessing number 2 if anyone else sees this?
Just curious really, because if there is something that is revealing our HD7 is infact a Leo i'd rather it didnt.
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Hey man, I have a folder named HTC HD7 T9292.

tictac0566 said:
The answer is simple: You must have flashed the first WP7 for HD2 ever: It comes with the name "Leo70", which is also the model name inside the ROM.
The newer custom ROMs change the model name.
No need to worry. But maybe you might prefer to flash a custom ROM - almost all of them are jailbroken, too. Another big advantage.
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Ah! and that of course makes perfect sense, must remember to apply gear before pushing accelerator, cheers matey

First Windows Phone update, Today.

Hi all i just saw this on windows phone face book page.
Windows Phone An update for Windows Phone begins today. Get all of the details on the official Windows Phone blog.
Our first Windows Phone update—and how to get it.
The windows phone blog post:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...t-windows-phone-update-and-how-to-get-it.aspx
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I would like to know how does this affects WP7 unlocked devices and cooked roms.

there is an up date for the phone froim 7004 to 7008

I have initiated install - will let you know what happens...

Huh Error! Registry is invalid on the phone :S

WP7 update
telas said:
Hi all i just saw this on windows phone face book page.
I would like to know how does this affects WP7 unlocked devices and cooked roms.
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I noticed that this update appeared on Zune. Think I'll wait till some of the experts here give us advice if this can be applied to the WP7 on the HD2

thats why i didnt install update afraid it might jack up my hd2.wait and see what the pros do

send a report to microsoft saying your hd2 cant update

lol, someone should try and use the update for there hd2 and tell us how it goes,
believe it or not, i wouldn't be surprised if some hd2's update good and some don't.
we'll let the dev's make a new rom for this than.

Seeing the same on mine.. runs through the process, then backs out the changes saying registry settings are invalid

StuartMaher said:
Seeing the same on mine.. runs through the process, then backs out the changes saying registry settings are invalid
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yea i just connected my phone and the update popped up, i'll give it a try and post back up with what it says.

Same thing here with DFT build for HD2, registry error and it backed out.

lol Guys, why would the update work, as its meant for an HD7, not a reg hacked HD2.??? THe hardware specs are not the same so the drivers will have been changed/modded so it just aint gonna happen.
Dont bother trying to apply the update, we'll have to all wait until the new rom is dumped and re-hacked.
You will also know that the new rom will block chevron unlocking, although schaps is on the case, google for more info

timmymarsh said:
lol Guys, why would the update work, as its meant for an HD7, not a reg hacked HD2.??? THe hardware specs are not the same so the drivers will have been changed/modded so it just aint gonna happen.
Dont bother trying to apply the update, we'll have to all wait until the new rom is dumped and re-hacked.
You will also know that the new rom will block chevron unlocking, although schaps is on the case, google for more info
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Nice to hear this, either way trying wouldn't have hurt anyone.

I am using HD2 with WP7. Itried earlier to install the update, I have received an error.
Link to the Zune error here:
http://b0njaw.sn2.livefilestore.com...R6IpsDhmbxrlR89UD/WP7 Update ERROR.JPG?psid=1

Some people are just born dumb.

i hate to say i told you so but i cant resist.
I did say that there would be a way for MS to identify our HD2s, there will be some common reg entry or file in the original DFT release that they have scanned for and i got slated for it. oh well, going to have to wait for a updated ROM my thinks, and based on the fact that this update only changes the way in which our phones get updated i dont think there is any point in the slightest in installing this.

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Some people are just born dumb.
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You are soooooo right!!!

same here zune 80180089 error

We all have to wait for dev's to cook this into there roms, either way this
isn't that much of a big update, so it's really not worth it.

dazza9075 said:
i hate to say i told you so but i cant resist.
I did say that there would be a way for MS to identify our HD2s, there will be some common reg entry or file in the original DFT release that they have scanned for and i got slated for it. oh well, going to have to wait for a updated ROM my thinks, and based on the fact that this update only changes the way in which our phones get updated i dont think there is any point in the slightest in installing this.
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I'm see no reason why Microsoft wouldn't be able read your phone's IMEI before updating. It's a more reliable model identifier than anything in the registry, and will instantly tell them they're dealing with a HD2.
Indeed, not much point in trying to apply this update. At best, you gain very little (no new features). At worst, you're going to have to reflash.

[Q] Can you keep me from throwing my HD2 off a 12 story bldg?

I loved this phone -- at first, i got one of the first from Tmobile, was all excited. Then it kept freezing. 2 "new" HD2s later i hate it. And at the moment, I have a horrific sinus infection and no patience to find the links to the drivers and i want to take it to my husband's office and throw it off the top of the building. Unfortunately i think, since it's a police station, they'd frown upon that.
I also don't understand "computer" speak... please help me in "stupid person" terms if you can
1. A new driver to keep it from freezing, locking up etc. Every time i'm doing something, like typing a text mssg - and i'm recving a text mssg, the darn thing needs to be rebooted!
2. Tell me what i need to do to keep getting my gmail without the damn thing overheating and draining the battery.
3. Cool apps/games -- preferably free (i have kids that need to be entertained mid-air)
4. the name of a good bluetooth device.
If you can help me and you live within the 415, 510, 408, or 925 area codes i can reward you with cupcakes (when i'm no longer sick of course) -- i bake them professionally.
Also, can the hd2 with win 6.5 be upgraded to win 7? and if so, how?

mity287 said:
I loved this phone -- at first, i got one of the first from Tmobile, was all excited. Then it kept freezing. 2 "new" HD2s later i hate it. And at the moment, I have a horrific sinus infection and no patience to find the links to the drivers and i want to take it to my husband's office and throw it off the top of the building. Unfortunately i think, since it's a police station, they'd frown upon that.
I also don't understand "computer" speak... please help me in "stupid person" terms if you can
1. A new driver to keep it from freezing, locking up etc. Every time i'm doing something, like typing a text mssg - and i'm recving a text mssg, the darn thing needs to be rebooted!
2. Tell me what i need to do to keep getting my gmail without the damn thing overheating and draining the battery.
3. Cool apps/games -- preferably free (i have kids that need to be entertained mid-air)
4. the name of a good bluetooth device.
If you can help me and you live within the 415, 510, 408, or 925 area codes i can reward you with cupcakes (when i'm no longer sick of course) -- i bake them professionally.
Also, can the hd2 with win 6.5 be upgraded to win 7? and if so, how?
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1. WHich ROM do you use, Stock or Custom?
2. Gmail never has a problem with WInmo. We all know about the battery drains. You can either buy the extended battery or else turn off your 3G and Wifi when not needed (set everything manually)
3.I dont know about much about games and apps in WInmo. But, I like to play teeter, neon and bejewel
4. I have bluetooth devices from SOny Ericsson and Motorolla. All is good in term of quality.
Cheers..

silverwind said:
1. WHich ROM do you use, Stock or Custom?
2. Gmail never has a problem with WInmo. We all know about the battery drains. You can either buy the extended battery or else turn off your 3G and Wifi when not needed (set everything manually)
3.I dont know about much about games and apps in WInmo. But, I like to play teeter, neon and bejewel
4. I have bluetooth devices from SOny Ericsson and Motorolla. All is good in term of quality.
Cheers..
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1. Stock -- last time i did the Tmobile "update" it just made it worse so i did a factory reset and have been living with it ever since. Custom would be awesome since my "1 yr warranty" no longer exists.
2. seems too time consuming when the darn thing doesn't like to do what i ask in the first place
3. i have all those games
4. i'll try those, sick of using the corded one and my bluetooth broke.

1) Your T-Mobile HD2 needs no driver. What it needs is a Custom Rom because it seems that you have the Stock Rom 2.13 or 3.14. First you need to Unlock your device with HSPL3 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 . Here is the Link for your TMOUS HD2 Roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
2) Your device overheats because you might be running alot of programs or streaming alot of media on your device.
3) For games theres alot of sites for instance http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-game.html
4) I dont normally use a bluetooth so i dont have an answer to that.
5) Yes, your phone Windows Mobile 6.5 can be hack and upgrade it Windows Phone 7 with the latest rom with NoDo thanks to DFT for making it possible to run Windows Phone 7 and YukiXDA Rom for the NoDo rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080950
I hope this helps

thebest1 said:
1) Your T-Mobile HD2 needs no driver. What it needs is a Custom Rom because it seems that you have the Stock Rom 2.13 or 3.14. First you need to Unlock your device with HSPL3 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 . Here is the Link for your TMOUS HD2 Roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
2) Your device overheats because you might be running alot of programs or streaming alot of media on your device.
3) For games theres alot of sites for instance http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-game.html
4) I dont normally use a bluetooth so i dont have an answer to that.
5) Yes, your phone Windows Mobile 6.5 can be hack and upgrade it Windows Phone 7 with the latest rom with NoDo thanks to DFT for making it possible to run Windows Phone 7 and YukiXDA Rom for the NoDo rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080950
I hope this helps
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1. i need someone to explain the link (original thread) in rom for dummies
2. i try to exit out of everything when i'm done with it -- HD2 really needs a task mangager
3. thx for the link
4. i need one for driving, it's the law in California.
5. i will try that when everything else is said and done.

mity287 said:
I loved this phone -- at first, i got one of the first from Tmobile, was all excited. Then it kept freezing. 2 "new" HD2s later i hate it. And at the moment, I have a horrific sinus infection and no patience to find the links to the drivers and i want to take it to my husband's office and throw it off the top of the building. Unfortunately i think, since it's a police station, they'd frown upon that.
I also don't understand "computer" speak... please help me in "stupid person" terms if you can
1. A new driver to keep it from freezing, locking up etc. Every time i'm doing something, like typing a text mssg - and i'm recving a text mssg, the darn thing needs to be rebooted!
2. Tell me what i need to do to keep getting my gmail without the damn thing overheating and draining the battery.
3. Cool apps/games -- preferably free (i have kids that need to be entertained mid-air)
4. the name of a good bluetooth device.
If you can help me and you live within the 415, 510, 408, or 925 area codes i can reward you with cupcakes (when i'm no longer sick of course) -- i bake them professionally.
Also, can the hd2 with win 6.5 be upgraded to win 7? and if so, how?
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1. As the above post said you do not need any drivers. I recommend you look into a custom Windows Mobile ROM like any of the Energy or Duttys ROMs. You can also check into running android on it or WP7. Any of those three choices run a lot smoother then a stock ROM.
2. Sorry I could never get my HD2 to even set up my gmail account in the Manila/Sense email.
3. again agree with the above post, go to freewarepocketpc.net to get the Omarket, it has a lot of free games. Also do several Google searches for games for Windows Mobile 6.5.
4. Sorry again no advice here, I do not use any bluetooth devices.
5. Yes you can put Windows Phone 7 on your HD2. Click on the guide in my sig and read the very first couple of paragraphs and you will find a link to a guide on how to install WP7. You can also check out the rest as it might bed helpful to you. I also have two guides to installing Andriod linked close to the link for the WP7 guide. I recommend the WP7 ROM by YukiXDA as it is the newest and only WP7 ROM for the HD2 that has NoDo working.
Last make sure you do plenty of reading and researching before attempting any OS change, it is best to be informed.

T-Macgnolia said:
1. As the above post said you do not need any drivers. I recommend you look into a custom Windows Mobile ROM like any of the Energy or Duttys ROMs. You can also check into running android on it or WP7. Any of those three choices run a lot smoother then a stock ROM.
2. Sorry I could never get my HD2 to even set up my gmail account in the Manila/Sense email.
3. again agree with the above post, go to freewarepocketpc.net to get the Omarket, it has a lot of free games. Also do several Google searches for games for Windows Mobile 6.5.
4. Sorry again no advice here, I do not use any bluetooth devices.
5. Yes you can put Windows Phone 7 on your HD2. Click on the guide in my sig and read the very first couple of paragraphs and you will find a link to a guide on how to install WP7. You can also check out the rest as it might bed helpful to you. I also have two guides to installing Andriod linked close to the link for the WP7 guide. I recommend the WP7 ROM by YukiXDA as it is the newest and only WP7 ROM for the HD2 that has NoDo working.
Last make sure you do plenty of reading and researching before attempting any OS change, it is best to be informed.
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1. i have NO idea how to go about doing any of this. Seriously, i am a computer/electronics dummy. i'm lucky i can turn the darn thing on. when instructions are saying check your HSPL OSPL SPL, unistall it, save it to SD, rename it, or whatever, i have NO idea how to go about doing that. so please someone help me here.

HSPL is like the key to the phones guts... SPL is what the phone comes with by default that is the LOCK of the phone.. Cotulla managed to change it around and called it HSPL so with that you can do stuff on your HD2 that HTC and Microsoft don't want you doing...
So by putting HSPL following the guides mentioned your simply starting a Windows Application that will restart you phone into the phones bootloader or SPL (what turns on at first and is covered by the HTC logo or T mobiles Stick Together)
then it flashes (installs) HSPL so that your phone becomes unlocked to custom ROMS or modified update packages and in turn allows you to put MAGLDR which is a custom DFT (Dark Forces Team) project that after HSPL is loaded a new Operating System Loader starts up and allows you to run Android or Windows Phone from the phones internal memory. Radios are a little bit risky since some Radios will brake your device and make it unusable but for some people its worth the risk with improved Cell coverage and Faster speeds but in some cases drains the battery faster. You have the latest Radio since it was included with T-Mobiles 3.14
In your case if don't want Windows Mobile 6 then the alternatives are either Android with its large Market Place or Windows Phone (new) with its some what limited Market but with free games none the less
BUT a custom build of Windows Mobile 6 will have better performance since it won't be filled with T-Mobiles junk and you will be familiar with it instead of switching to Android or Windows Phone with their different Interface

Just read t-mac's guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837

keep in mind to explain everything COMPLETELY so you can understand over online text might be a little tedious. here's a guide to flash android onto your phone, but it isn't limited to android. you can flash windows phone 7 roms similarly. i can empathize with you, there was a time i didn't know what anyone was talking about but take it all in stride, do some looking around the forums and see if you can gradually understand what people are saying. trust me, just grab a hot coffee sit down and browse through things i have faith you'll figure things out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

mity287 said:
1. i have NO idea how to go about doing any of this. Seriously, i am a computer/electronics dummy. i'm lucky i can turn the darn thing on. when instructions are saying check your HSPL OSPL SPL, unistall it, save it to SD, rename it, or whatever, i have NO idea how to go about doing that. so please someone help me here.
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Then why are you even here?
You have absolutely zero chance of been able to do any of this simply because you obviously are not even prepared to go and sit down and read. If you was you would be reading teh guides and sticky topics etc instead of back and forth in this topic.

Dump Windows Mobile, and go Android There are a bunch of guides in the Android thread, if you get overwhelmed you can always post a question
But if you still decided to throw it from the 12th floor, let me know when and where...

[Q] Why not to install Android?

Hi!
I would like to switch to Android on my htc hd2, since the rest of my family now has Android. But there are some questions I simply can't find answers to in the forum! I realize installing Android is on my own risk, but:
- is it legal? I am guessing so (since it runs on Open Source Linux and Open Source Android, I think...), but can't really find an explicit confirmation of this. Somewhere it was written that htc Sense is copyrighted, does that mean you can't legally use the touch screen on htc hd2 without the predelivered Windows Mobile version???
- Are there any parts of the phone that don't work with Android? I am thinking about gyro sensors, GPS...
- If I decide to switch, I want to switch completely. But as far as I can read the installation descriptions, it seems they install Android on top of Windows? That you actually start Android from Windows? Doesn't that slow down things unnecessarily?
Thanks for any concrete answers!

my friend....there are really two things u can do here...
1) either go for a SD based android rom which u can boot from win6.5 (and its not slower at all)
2) go full android by installing a nand version.
benefit of both is, you can go back to stock win6.5 anytime and every thing will work just fine.
Also dont worry about legality - most of here use all sorts of roms...
And all parts of the phone works in android...

So the difference is that in the nand version you have to totally reinstall Windows, while in the SD solution it's never even deleted?

Yup
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

khun said:
So the difference is that in the nand version you have to totally reinstall Windows, while in the SD solution it's never even deleted?
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i had it on my sd card about 18 months ago,then saw a video on youtube about nand versions instead,i didn't like the sd card version cos everytime i rebooted the phone it would load windows mobile and i was sick of putting zimage & intrid files on my sd card.i REMOVED windows mobile 6.5,got all the required things such as recovery,the right radio,the right hspl version,then flashed my rom via recovery using magldr 1.13.once uve done it once,you'll never look back again lol
THE HD2 IS A BEAST................TREAT IT LIKE 1 LOL
HOPE THIS HELPS................FEEL FREE TO HIT THANX

NAND Android installed
Now that was really easier than I thought, thanks to the excellent guides in this forum! I've already received messages and a phone call, within 1 hour of deciding to go for it!
Hopefully the good feeling will last, I never quite got Windows Mobile on the htc hd2 to work as I wanted...

khun said:
Now that was really easier than I thought, thanks to the excellent guides in this forum! I've already received messages and a phone call, within 1 hour of deciding to go for it!
Hopefully the good feeling will last, I never quite got Windows Mobile on the htc hd2 to work as I wanted...
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good luck & enjoy........then go for PYRAMID ROM 3.0 SENSE V.70

khun said:
Now that was really easier than I thought, thanks to the excellent guides in this forum! I've already received messages and a phone call, within 1 hour of deciding to go for it!
Hopefully the good feeling will last, I never quite got Windows Mobile on the htc hd2 to work as I wanted...
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Glad to see you installed a NAND ROM instead of and SD ROM. My experience with NAND is that they seem to offer a bit better battery standby life over SD and are smoother operating. You may want to try a couple of ROMs and see which one you like best. I am currently using Tytung's Nexus HD2 v3.0 with his newest r12 kernel and it has been very stable with everything I need working perfectly.

htc hd2 + android = best phone i have ever used
working flawlessly