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Why do people keep upgrading ROMS?

I know I am going to cause some trouble by asking this but why?
On taking my new Orange SPV M600 out of the box, I have to agree a bit sluggish, but this was mainly due to Windows.
After a little tweaking with the registry and some third party software it is now flying.
I originally thought that putting third party software over the top of the system would slow it even more, but know, the opposite was true. Using the standard windows task bar and start menu was dreadful. I tried a number of third party softwares such as True Toolbar, Handyswitcher etc, finally settling on Wisbar deluxe.
Everything now opens as soon as it is selected no nasty lag like windows. With some skinning and removal of Customised Today the phone looks great and is performing great. That is apart from my wired hands free. I can now answer and close calls with the button, but it does not activate voice dial when pressed, so I can't dial out hands free. All prevoius phones, Nokia and SE did this no problem, so why not this phone?
Anyway, back to the point of ROMS, why keep flashing?

I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.

I can not remember all of the tweaks I used, but there is a big section somewhere in here listing them. I have them somewhere on the computer but my filing is a mess and I can't remember what I called the text file or where I put it.
Basically the tweaks are just simple things like increasing cache size for fonts, programs etc. Moving file storage off main memory to SD card, disabling and enabling etc. It is claimed by doing this that the system will speed up a little. I am not sure if any of these actually did anything or if it is just down to Wisbar. All I can say is that when I click on a program it fires up straight away, before it could take a second or two.

Spenner said:
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
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check out this tread and application
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=easy+tweaking
good luck
R

Actually, the rule about flashing is: If it's not broken don't fix it.
People upgrade because they want to get rid of bugs or add features like AKU 2.0 that includes push mail and some other stuff.
Also some brands are better that others in some ways, and worse in other ways. There are several ROMs for the Prophet: Dopod, i-mate, Qtek, Orange. Finally some people cook their own ROMs throwing out useless stuff and adding apps they 'must have'.
All in all if you are pleased with your phone there is no need to change the ROM. When I got my Jamin it had the i-mate 1.xx ROM so I upgraded to 2.13 to get the AKU 2.0 goodies.

I always belive the latest is the greatest, even if its not. I still run the latest. While the release notes say "Added this, fixed that" they also contain a lot of fixes and changes not documented.

Hi all.
Thats actually a very good question. From my experience you dont really need to change anything. Maybe as you said some registry tweaking or some basic settings. However as someone already said, the golden rule should be if it is not broken dont try to fix it.
On the other hand you might want to change things with no reason, just because you can.. and I have to admit that it is hard not to do. Then you have to make sure that you know what you are doing cause otherwise you might end up spending your day in forums try to fix whatever you &^%$ up..
Take care.

Thanks for the replies.
I have to admit, when I first got the phone I started tweaking, then I found this forum and others. Once I discovered unlocking and flashing ROMS, I was very close to doing it. Then I remembered what I used to be like on my PC. With old systems like Win ME, I used to spend about 70% of my time tweaking and fixing, and only 30% actually using the damn thing. Not what I want out of a phone.
Just by messing around with skins, I have already managed to lose my phone dialer all together, I was left with a blank screen, so I had a phone that could not phone. I have it nicely skinned and running now, but I was never able to get the Orange dialer back.
Guess the only time I will flash my ROM is when there is a genuine update and it is covered by warranty, that way if the ROM is bad, Orange can give me another phone.
Thanks

I look at it same way as i look at windows.
My windows isn't broke but I always use Windows Update.
Why do YOU update windows, if you do at all. I guess im not sure if this is advisable, but that's just the way i do it.
Regarding upgrading ROM, MOST of the time, it makes the device faster and adds more features ( i never install extended ROM ) so I always upgrade when there is a new one.
I've downgraded ONCE. And only the RADIO because 1.11 didn't agree with my device.
There are ways to Backup the device, change to a different BRAND/VERISON of ROM then restore the backup. This makes changing ROM very easy.
Anyway, I have nothing better to do with my time so i upgrade whenever a new ROM comes out.

Sorry to but in again but I simply must disagree with the Windows update analogy.
I have my PC set to auto update as well, but Windows XP runs updates in the background and doesn't delete you data in the process.
ROM upgrade means HARD RESET, and unless you have a good backup a long restore process.
Also there is the danger of communication / power interrupt during the flashing and a bricked device as a result.
Finlay, like with your radio ROM, some OS updates have new bugs as well as fixes for the old.
But I do wish it was as simple as updating windows - then I would say, update away, couldn't hurt.

My analogy was based only on the reason for updating, not the process itself that you are stating.
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
Sorry i did not explain that clearly. The guy just asked why update if you are content with what you have.... It has nothing to do with "I would update only if the process were simpler" like what you stated.
Sorry for the misunderstanding

I upgrade because I can cook my own ROM with better application suite

Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.

I think the main point is you dont have to upgrade, you can if you want, its a matter of choice.
I like to always update, some like to keep the same and have never hard reset in their life. Im on my 9th this week :S but it is a new device and im still figuring it all out.

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Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe

Jorgee said:
TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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I was talking about Windows, not WM5.
My phone came shipped with an AKU2 rom and it's fine - after a little tweaking. I'm not going to risk bricking my pride and joy with a rom upgrade - as so many people have done already on this forum. :wink:

Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!

brounstoun said:
Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Look at the top left of this very page and you will see a link to the wiki section of this site. How to flash is in there.
The extended rom is where the operator adds thier own customisations (over and above what M$ provide) to the device, for example Orange and O2 add their own options in there and they install when the device is powered up for the first time or when it's hard reset. If you get access to the extended rom (again look in the wiki) you can manipulate what gets installed and if you're really clever, add some of your own stuff.
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.

cool, thanks paul

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Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
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Actually, it is virtually impossible to brick your device by manipulating the contents of the extended ROM. It is only accessed once, during first boot, and event that can be avoided by quickly soft resetting the device.
Basically it acts exactly like "file store" used to on WM 2003 devices, the only difference being it is hidden so ordinary users won't get rid of the operator junk.
In my case it was very nice of i-mate to provide various goodies there like voice dial (should be in ROM) anti virus (not only useless but damaging crap) Skype (could have just downloaded from their site, but nice thought) and backgammon (toys are always welcome).
But now ofter the initial installation it makes all the sense in the world to save these cabs (9MB~) to my PC and have extra 10 MB storage on the device.

Chevron after reflash? Activation Code limit?

I got my activation code a couple minutes ago and decided to swap out my 2gb sd card for a 16gb one. After I popped it in, I had to setup my phone again, which I figured would happen, but then it said something about low storage, so I figured I needed to reflash the rom so WP7 would partition the new sd card in whatever manor it does.
My question is, now that I have an activation code, do I need to run Chevron and unlock the phone again or can I just put the activation code in and start downloading apps? My only concern is I've now used my activation code twice, so I don't want to hit the limit without doing this all correctly :/

AFAIK, it associates your IMEI with your Live account, so it should just work..
I find it hard to believe that the activation code will stop working if you try to use it again with the same live account.

I did reflashm, and activation code worked no problem

RickAstley said:
AFAIK, it associates your IMEI with your Live account, so it should just work..
I find it hard to believe that the activation code will stop working if you try to use it again with the same live account.
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Some mentioned it in a thread at one point, but I've read that people have used their code 3 or even 5 times, so I may just be overly paranoid about it haha.
Laynee1 said:
I did reflashm, and activation code worked no problem
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Just tried it and it works fine! Thanks so much man
One last question: Since I put my new sd card in before reflashing, did that mess up how WP7 partitions it when I eventually did reflash? Or was WP7 not recognizing the new sd card anyway since it was put in after the initial flash, causing WP7 to not see it, hence the "low storage" message I ended up getting?

I have used it at least 5 times over. I doubt you will have any issues. Its just the code associated to your account. They dont monitor that, its just a key for service.

Improve said:
I have used it at least 5 times over. I doubt you will have any issues. Its just the code associated to your account. They dont monitor that, its just a key for service.
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I agree.. i think it's linked to your Live ID.. So when you sell the phone, the buyer should get a new key from MS for his Live ID and you can use the same key for your new phone. Correct me if am wrong.

21031980 said:
I agree.. i think it's linked to your Live ID.. So when you sell the phone, the buyer should get a new key from MS for his Live ID and you can use the same key for your new phone. Correct me if am wrong.
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Ooo, that's pretty awesome, though I doubt I'll ever sell my HD2, this guy is a beast haha.
Oooone last question and sorry that it's slightly off topic: I'm trying to download stuff from the Marketplace, but I get this message "we can't get this info check back in a little while". Is this something that will work in a few minutes, or is there something I need to do, like change the reg or something?

can u guys tell me how can we talk with MS service? Cause I fone them already, and they ask me alot of informations: home, fone, IMEI ..... but i m not sure we can use HD2's IMEI or not, cause I told them I use HD7 2nd. So dont have active code T_T
Some1 plz tell me what exactly I have to tell them to get the code.
Thank you

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Ooo, that's pretty awesome, though I doubt I'll ever sell my HD2, this guy is a beast haha.
Oooone last question and sorry that it's slightly off topic: I'm trying to download stuff from the Marketplace, but I get this message "we can't get this info check back in a little while". Is this something that will work in a few minutes, or is there something I need to do, like change the reg or something?
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You need to do the registry hack so your phone is recognized as a HD7 t9292

the support guy told me to place the code at a safe place because i can use the code again if i need after a phone reset or something else
so i think there is no limit

APJG said:
Ooo, that's pretty awesome, though I doubt I'll ever sell my HD2, this guy is a beast haha.
Oooone last question and sorry that it's slightly off topic: I'm trying to download stuff from the Marketplace, but I get this message "we can't get this info check back in a little while". Is this something that will work in a few minutes, or is there something I need to do, like change the reg or something?
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you have to do nothing...just wait...the marketplace has at the moment some problems
-> http://wmpoweruser.com/zune-services-offline-now-microsoft-working-on-it/

Windows Phone 7 Market problem
i have flashed wp7 and have activation code; but i cant download any files from market,
"There is a problem completing your request.Try again later.
Error code:c101a420
Solved:
Arturo You wont have any problems getting your apps back. Just browse to them in the Marketplace and re-install. That feature seemed to be working even while attempting to download new apps returned c101a420 error code.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/a20fe082-cf95-4c5a-9bd0-f87637339194

thinhletien said:
can u guys tell me how can we talk with MS service? Cause I fone them already, and they ask me alot of informations: home, fone, IMEI ..... but i m not sure we can use HD2's IMEI or not, cause I told them I use HD7 2nd. So dont have active code T_T
Some1 plz tell me what exactly I have to tell them to get the code.
Thank you
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It may depend on who you talk to. I called after I ran Chevron, so in the settings in my phone it said "HD7", though I'm not 100% sure if that makes a difference.
I called, they asked for me first name, then last name, then phone number, and then if I have ever called MS before. They asked what the problem was, I said I'm trying to add my @live email and go to the Marketplace, but it says I need an activation code and I don't know what that is. The woman asked if I was using WP7 and I said yes. She said something along the lines of "Ohhh, ok, that's why you need the code." She said it would take a minute to generate one for me, so I waited a bit and she asked what brand my phone was. I said HD7 and she seemed confused, so I then said HTC HD7 and she understood that. A couple minutes later she read the code to me so I could write it down, then I read it back to her to double check and that was it!
I've read about other people having to give numbers from the back of the phone or other specific details, but I didn't have to do any of that for whatever reason

thinhletien said:
can u guys tell me how can we talk with MS service? Cause I fone them already, and they ask me alot of informations: home, fone, IMEI ..... but i m not sure we can use HD2's IMEI or not, cause I told them I use HD7 2nd. So dont have active code T_T
Some1 plz tell me what exactly I have to tell them to get the code.
Thank you
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someone told them the imei of the desire hd...just try it
or you phone them several times till someone dont want to know this information

mattfmartin said:
You need to do the registry hack so your phone is recognized as a HD7 t9292
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0711 said:
you have to do nothing...just wait...the marketplace has at the moment some problems
-> http://wmpoweruser.com/zune-services-offline-now-microsoft-working-on-it/
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I figured I'd have to do that reg hack. I may wait a bit though just to see if it ends up working anyway for whatever reason.
Thanks so much guys!

kendimce said:
i have flashed wp7 and have activation code; but i cant download any files from market,
"There is a problem completing your request.Try again later.
Error code:c101a420
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same thing
0711 said:
you have to do nothing...just wait...the marketplace has at the moment some problems
-> http://wmpoweruser.com/zune-services-offline-now-microsoft-working-on-it/
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APJG said:
I figured I'd have to do that reg hack. I may wait a bit though just to see if it ends up working anyway for whatever reason.
Thanks so much guys!
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You do have to hack the registry so your phone appears as a HD7... A lot of apps won't download until you do that. There's directions all over to do that. There shouldn't be any wait time after getting your code. If your phone doesn't appear as a HD7 when you look at the info on your phone, you will get that message when trying to download apps.

seems live id can't be deleted

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You do have to hack the registry so your phone appears as a HD7... A lot of apps won't download until you do that. There's directions all over to do that. There shouldn't be any wait time after getting your code. If your phone doesn't appear as a HD7 when you look at the info on your phone, you will get that message when trying to download apps.
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Yep, you're right! Just did the reg hack and everything downloads fine, thanks!

Do you think that there will be more WP7 roms ?

Hey you guys think there will be more roms from now on? and some fixes like the multitouch?when you try to zoom in pictures and stuff .

MACBLACK91 said:
Hey you guys think there will be more roms from now on? and some fixes like the multitouch?when you try to zoom in pictures and stuff .
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There may be eventually but not for a while as the tools that are required to disect, alter and rebuild a WP7 Rom into the correct format to be flashed dont exist right now unless there is something that im not aware of.
Also at the moment the only way of getting full functionality on a NAND WP7 Rom is to call microsoft to get your specific activation key. This means its never going to get to same uptake as other OS's on HD2 and so may not get the attention it needs to be fully developed and if Microsoft start insisting on the imei number of the phone being given before a code is generated then everything will grind to a huge halt.
Mark.

mskip said:
if Microsoft start insisting on the imei number of the phone being given before a code is generated then everything will grind to a huge halt.
Mark.
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Microsoft have been asking some user for the IMEI number, some have give the real IMEI number and some have given fake ones and yet they have given out valid activation keys. So what you've said above is not true.
What you mean is if Microsoft decide not to give us "HD2" users activation key, then everthing may grind to a halt.
As of now, they are still giving out activation keys. I personally think we will see more update ROM's with little bug fixes etc...

Code:
Do you think that there will be more WP7 roms ?
Hope so!!!!!

Good question. I hope DFT don't decide they've done their bit and not bother developing any further. They've done a great job getting the ROM out, it would be a shame not having their expertise in fixing some of the problems that exist.

Is there a need for a rom right now? what is not working?
lets see what happens when the update comes

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Hey you guys think there will be more roms from now on? and some fixes like the multitouch?when you try to zoom in pictures and stuff .
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Peoples cracked windows 7 . peoples cracking windows phone 7 now

"DFT LEO WP7 "NoDo" testing"

check the video here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH_x22NY6Yk
enjoy this great news

Very happy!
DFT SIMPLY ROCKS the planet! HD2 Owners have to be happy

Woohoo!
We all know it's possible.
Now it's just the waiting game.

Still at a loss... what exactly is NoDo?

Copy and paste, marketplace search and bug fixes and the name NoDo is a dig at android (No doughnut)

Wow. can't wait. Anyone know if any navigation has been added?

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Copy and paste, marketplace search and bug fixes and the name NoDo is a dig at android (No doughnut)
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Marketplace search is in 7004...just hot the search (Home) key while in marketplace.

samson291 said:
Copy and paste, marketplace search and bug fixes and the name NoDo is a dig at android (No doughnut)
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Actually it isn't. It was a Microsoft In-joke since one of their employees forgot to bring Donuts to a meeting or something.

wow! i can't wait .. happy hd2 owner here

Bravo bravo DFT

Two thumbs up from this guy!

Although this is really really nice, i am in a "dilemma" right now
Trying Dual boot right now still with an old ROM or wait until NoDo gets finally released.
Anyway, thumbs up for their great work!

Great! Looking forward to testing this!
I've got WP7 running all the time and I love it.

with bated breath I await this update.

Never mind the update, what we need is an updater, Zune can do it so its possible, just need to fine out exactly what it does / how it does it!

^^^^^^^^ ..
True, because no matter what DFT brought us today, they won't be supporting the HD2 (especially WP7 on it) forever .
But at the meantime, who cares !!!
WE HAVE NODO

I vote the notion of having ability to update our beloved HD2 using Zune itself... This way we have more secure path for the future upgrades but I don't know how hard this could be?
but so far, DFT is keeping HD2 alive and mango is far far away...
Thanks DFT
iDev

well as far as i can tell, and not having a native WP7 device means thats not very much, the HD2 has two potential issues, firstly, and most obviously, Zune apparently detects either a reg entry or a system file difference that identifies the HD2 as an HD2
secondly, when the device does its reboot thing before atempting a backup Windows 7 detects and installes a LEO device driver.
now it does the second thing even when you use a windows system that has never had a LEO attached, so something during the restart/flash screen is shouting LEO
now the question is, is Zune really detecting a reg entry / file issue, or is it the LEO device driver....
whats your thoughts?
it could of course be both, what would be handy is a complete reg dump of a HD2 and the WP7 device our ROM comes from to see if there is any likely differences that may be the reason.
likewise it would be handy to get ahold of the driver that is installed for the WP7 device our ROM comes from when it goes in to updating mode, could it be as simple as messing about with some hardware IDs and system driver files on the PC? doubt it, but good as place as any to start

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well as far as i can tell, and not having a native WP7 device means thats not very much, the HD2 has two potential issues, firstly, and most obviously, Zune apparently detects either a reg entry or a system file difference that identifies the HD2 as an HD2
secondly, when the device does its reboot thing before atempting a backup Windows 7 detects and installes a LEO device driver.
now it does the second thing even when you use a windows system that has never had a LEO attached, so something during the restart/flash screen is shouting LEO
now the question is, is Zune really detecting a reg entry / file issue, or is it the LEO device driver....
whats your thoughts?
it could of course be both, what would be handy is a complete reg dump of a HD2 and the WP7 device our ROM comes from to see if there is any likely differences that may be the reason.
likewise it would be handy to get ahold of the driver that is installed for the WP7 device our ROM comes from when it goes in to updating mode, could it be as simple as messing about with some hardware IDs and system driver files on the PC? doubt it, but good as place as any to start
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We can use all the Live services, so what's the problem?

It does indeed say magdlr version 1.14 on the vid but it also saysbuild 14th feb!!

HTC 7 Trophy running mango

Today I got the invitation to install mango on my trophy, have any one installed mango and any trouble with the beta.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Hello,
Yes i already installed MAngo on Trophy and it works perfect, i have it from 3 days and its run awesome, very fast and stable..
Regards

One of the best upgrades I have made to my phone so far, although it took me 4 tries until I finally had mango unlocked XD.
Messenger integration with the phone is pretty nice (although buggy sometimes)

Mango is the bizniss! I had to tinker with my actual location to get access to services though. Live tiles for a lot of apps,stay away from the 3g if you're on prepaid.

I will also agree, Mango is well worth the upgrade, I have it on my Verizon HTC Trophy. Runs perfect and all the new features are worth it.

Doesnt even feel like a beta, perfect!

Hi
Newbie for wp7.
Where to download mango for trophy ?
I bought the Xbox game, after upgrade to mango,
The game will b delete o not ?
Thanks

stussy said:
Hi
Newbie for wp7.
Where to download mango for trophy ?
I bought the Xbox game, after upgrade to mango,
The game will b delete o not ?
Thanks
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I haven't upgraded yet but from what i understand all settings, games etc will still exist after upgrade.
If you do need to download the game again, then the marketplace will recognise the previous purchase.

The applications did remain after the update, but I official updated the phone to mango.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Thanks for your info, but u haven't tell me where to download MANGO ????!!!!

stussy said:
Thanks for your info, but u haven't tell me where to download MANGO ????!!!!
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You have to be invited from Microsoft to try it out...

tsupersonic said:
You have to be invited from Microsoft to try it out...
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Hi tsupersoni
Any way or link to download it ?
Can you send me ?
Thanks

tsupersonic said:
You have to be invited from Microsoft to try it out...
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Really ? Have you not looked or are you just being rude ? The info on this has been out on the net over a week now how to install this on a non-dev phone. You don't even need to unlock your phone.
This info is ALL over this site, never mind the big Win phone 7 sites...(check the WP7 areas on this site)
Read all the details here...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2123450-post27.html
After reading that you could be installing it in 5 min, but, the whole process takes about 2-3 hours (so plan on not using your phone in that window)
I wrote the PPCgeeks page...btw it works awsome on the HTC Trophy.

DavidinCT said:
Really ? Have you not looked or are you just being rude ? The info on this has been out on the net over a week now how to install this on a non-dev phone. You don't even need to unlock your phone.
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Well Said
When I hear things like this - I grind my teeth
and hope someone else says something
Thank You Well Done

chill dude, I wasn't aware of that. I will admit I didn't read the whole thread if you mentioned it before.

Thanks bro DavidCt.
I downloaded n installed. Its amazing !!
Can feel the different. But sad is still no flash support n custom ringtone.

stussy said:
Thanks bro DavidCt.
I downloaded n installed. Its amazing !!
Can feel the different. But sad is still no flash support n custom ringtone.
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It is pretty awsome but, keep in mind, it is a beta (there will be bugs) and make sure you keep your backup, you might need to restore back before you go to the final version. Your right, no Adobe flash but, you can install custom ring tones.
Talys said:
Custom Ringtones
1. Copy MP3 or WMA to Zune Collection. Choose Edit, and type in manually under Genre "Ringtone". The song must be less than 40 seconds and smaller than 1MB.
2. Go to Settings -> Ringtones + Sounds, tap Ringtone. Your custom ringtone will appear under a new tree called "Custom", above "Windows Phone"
Note that it is identified by the filename, rather than the track title.
Also, you can tap and HOLD a ringtone, and Delete will be offered (but only on the Custom ones; preloaded ones grey out delete).
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From the first page on ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147892
tsupersonic said:
chill dude, I wasn't aware of that. I will admit I didn't read the whole thread if you mentioned it before.
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Hey, no worries, I said you otherwise didn't know or were rude, I guess you didn't know but, it's been all over the net for over a week now.
Guys/Gals if I helped you any bit could you hit the thanks button on the post I helped you with. Thanks !!!

Hi There
is it possible to send and receive files via Bluetooth in mango?

Hi David
I still cant custom the ringtone bcos i can't connect with ZUNE.
When i plug in phone will connect just 2 - 3 second and then disconnect.
Anyway to help ?

David
Anyway to solve this problem ?
Everytime i plug in phone connect to ZUNE, will show me the ZUNE need to update,
Downloading .... after that show me current the ZUNE version is the lastest .....