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So here are the questions:
A) What were your top alternative candidates (in order of importance) (including the reasons why) for the Xperia X1?
B) What was the primary phone that you used prior to this?
C) What were your top alternative candidates for the phone prior to the Xperia X1? (in order of importance)(including reasons why)
D) Do you have any facts that you would like to share about yourself (must involve phones)?
Here are my answers:
[A] My Past Candidates
[1] HTC Touch Pro
[X] I like the Touch Pro keyboard more than the X1's, but it lacked the headphone jack the X1 had. I decided that since the X1 keyboard is pretty good, then I might as well get the "combo".
[2] Stay with my Nokia N95
[X] Stereo Speakers were much better than the X1's, but I would sacrifice the speakers for a good keyboard. I needed that for productivity in school.
[X] I already had this phone, and I would have saved so much money if I had not gotten a new phone.
[3] Nokia E90
[X] I liked the Nokia E90's Keyboard more than both the X1 and the Touch Pro's, but I was familiar with Symbian Software, so I didn't expect it to be as productive as Windows Mobile. Therefore: what is the point in having a good keyboard if you aren't going to enjoy it?
[X] Furthermore, I knew that installing software on a Symbian S60 was a pain in the butt, so I decided not to get the E90. I didn't have trouble with the N95 because I already had the software that I wanted for my device.
[X] The dual screen was interesting, and I really like the numeric keys on the front. I realized that having an MP3 player would be a pain in the ass because of the 2.5 mm headphone requirements and that it didn't have a touch screen to make multimedia easy and fun. Another turn off.
[X] The main screen was bigger than the X1, so I was also tempted. But not until I after I bought the X1 that I realized that the Nokia E90's screen was much bigger than I expected. So I still envy the E90.
[X] I felt that the Nokia E90 was a more professional and a more business-like phone than the X1.
[4] 4 Samsung SCH-i760
[X] I really like the numeric keys on the front, and it was the only reason why I wanted to get the phone! (Shocking isn't it?)
[X] Major cons: 2.5 headphone requirement, crappy camera, no front camera, no GPS, didn't support SDHC cards but now it can support it.
[X] I like the design: placement of windows and okay keys, numeric keypad, placement of end and call, telescopic stylus and convenient location, has an actual D-pad that is much better than the X1's, very large battery capacity, reset button is located on the keyboard, cheap.
[5] HTC TyTn II
[X] Tilting Screen, and scroll wheel was attractive compared to the X1
[X] The video driver issue prevented me from getting this delicious goody.
[X] The lack of 3.5 mm headphone jack eventually forced me to put this down at the bottom of the list.
[X] I still think the Samsung SCH-i760 is better than the Tilt
Nokia N95 8GB
[C] Top Candidates That Ran Against My Previous Phone
[1] Nokia E90
[X] It had everything I could have ever wanted in the business aspects. But back then I prioritized an ultimate multimedia experience: Excellent N95 Camera, Accelerometer, Loud High Fidelity Stereo Speakers, Multimedia Buttons, 3.5 mm headphone jack.
[2] HTC TyTn II
[X] I really, really wanted this phone but I heard of the video drivers issue and I liked thought the E90 was way more unique and had a much better keyboard.
[3] Samsung SCH-I760
[X] Same opinions as the I previous stated for this phone
[X] E90 and Tilt had better keyboards so I didn't want the Samsung SCH-i760 as much.
[4] LG Voyager
[X] Well back then I knew very little about phones, and I was very uneducated about phones. Instead of checking out places like infosync, I relied on yahoo answers for the question "what is the best phone with a qwerty keyboard" ... I kept on getting answers that the LG Voyager was the best. Even CNET said it was the best. But after a lot of research I place this at the bottom of my list.
[D] Other Facts
[1] I actually bought the Samsung SCH-i760. The reason being that I really like the design, and I know that this phone is so underrated. So after I received the phone, I am way more satisfied than ever. You want to know why? The Samsung SCH-i760 speakers are 100% as loud as the N95. The sound quality isn't as clear, but it is still pretty good. In fact, the bass is pretty good as well. I didn't even know that! Nobody ever told me or said online that the speakers of this phone were as good as the N95. Because of that, I use this phone as an alarm clock and an hourly announcer for the time. [I save battery on my X1].
[2] I plan on getting my own Nokia E90 because gosh the keyboard is so good.
A) What were your top alternative candidates (in order of importance) (including the reasons why) for the Xperia X1?
I did look at all sorts of phones:
Nokia N97
Samsung Omnia
HTC Touch Pro
02 XDA (whichever the latest one is)
Tocca Ultra
B) What was the primary phone that you used prior to this?
Nokia E90
Awesome keyboard, good build quality (built like a tank!), crap firmware that broke most of the connectivity, hence the move!
C) What were your top alternative candidates for the phone prior to the Xperia X1? (in order of importance)(including reasons why)
Mostly Nokias to be honest:
I had an N80IE (pretty good phone to be honest) prior.
I always wanted a communicator as I'm a bit of a "top spec/flagship model" geek at heart, and the E90 was good to hold, if a little big, but the keyboard made up for that.
I didn't have any prerequisites really, but I did fancy a qwerty keyboard, and Blackberry ones aren't good for big thumbs...
D) Do you have any facts that you would like to share about yourself (must involve phones)?
I've had the following phones:
Philips Diga
Philips Savvy
Nokia 5110
Nokia 3310
Nokia 3510
Nokia 3510i
Started to look at early 'smart' phones:
Nokia 7610
Nokia N80
Nokia N80IE
Nokia E90 Communicator
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1i
A) What were your top alternative candidates (in order of importance) (including the reasons why) for the Xperia X1?
iPhone 3G - was a nice phone and would of gotton it if it wasnt out of stock and since it never did come back in stock i started actually looking at other possible phones like the xperia/
I think it was the T-Mobile G1 - i didnt do much research into buying this phone except watch the sony ericsson videos and such from xperia.com, liked the G1 because of the keyboard but it didnt look as nice.
B) What was the primary phone that you used prior to this?
K610i - finally got a proper actually nice and good phone although the battery life on the k610i was literally amazing, i used to go weeks with out having to charge it.
C) What were your top alternative candidates for the phone prior to the Xperia X1? (in order of importance)(including reasons why)
Errm, think it was mainly Sony Ericsson phone because i really liked the K610i. Well to be honest i just got my Dads old phones because he was on a proper contract and i wasnt and he always got free upgrade so i always just took the old ones
D) Do you have any facts that you would like to share about yourself (must involve phones)?
Xperia has broken too many times and casue me more than enough trouble for one life time.
I once made a tut on xperia-x1.net on how to use my old K610i battery inside the xperia by putting in some card at the side - it was pretty cool as a spare battery alternative but i think it was a little too large for the case to fit on.
When the iPhone 3G was release i rushed to the shops only to find it compleatly sold out - eventually i came to sense and started to consider other phones but i spent so long waiting for the Xperia to actually be released.
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I will not!!! You can't make me do it!!!!!!!
lolz....
A) What were your top alternative candidates (in order of importance) (including the reasons why) for the Xperia X1?
I had read and checked almost any article/vid/review of the upcoming pocket pc/smartphones at that time. I needed to change my N95. I was hesitating between these:
3 - Samsung Omnia.
It is a dumbed down Xperia without a keyboard. I did like the design a lot at that time (not so much now). The specs were great, but I will never again by a touchscreen only device (after the craptastic Touch HD).
2 - Nokia N97
There was a long time to wait for the N97 to come out, but having used the N95 for so long I was willing to wait. I had doubts about Nokia making a touchscreen phone. I don't want to be a better tester and then a better device to come after that.
The pathetic processor and the same old Symbian is what put me off.
1 - HTC Touch Pro
What can I say? Great keyboard, great specs, kinda ugly design but function over form ftw . A device that you can do anything with and can be certain that the job would get done. I hesitated between this and the X1 for months. I know that I have made the right decision now .
B) What was the primary phone that you used prior to this?
I used 2 phones actually:
1 - Nokia N95
Best device int he world for a long time. Media monster, unparalleled speakers and great functionality.
2 - HTC Touch HD. (worst phone in the world)
Crap.
C) What were your top alternative candidates for the phone prior to the Xperia X1? (in order of importance)(including reasons why)
The same as the answers for the first question. I have been interested in PCs, UMPCs, PDAs, Phones etc. for many years, but I am ashamed to admit that I did not know about the Xperia for some time after it was announced.
D) Do you have any facts that you would like to share about yourself (must involve phones)?
Um.......
I have been a fan of smartphones and PDAs for years and haven't used many "dumb" phones. I never liked Nokia (still don't), but used to buy their devices for their great quality. No matter what you prefer, Nokia is the best in the market. You may bash them or whatever, but when you make a decision for a device that will help you daily, you must be objective.
I have had many Nokia devices, but I liked only 2 of them. Nokia N95 and the Nokia N93.
I also had a razr (and I still love it).
A) What were your top alternative candidates (in order of importance) (including the reasons why) for the Xperia X1?
HTC Touch Pro
-nice keyboard but smaller screen, lacks 3.5mm jack.
Samsung Innov8
-rich in features but once i got hold of it and held it in my palm it was a no-no.
too large for my liking. and looks boring...
Samsung Omnia
-doesnt look as cool as the X1, smaller res, lack 3.5mm jack. and once my brother got one it was out!
Sony Ericsson W960i
-almost got one. would hv been an impulsive decision cos i was really bored of my k810 and didnt want to wait any longer for the x1.
B) What was the primary phone that you used prior to this?
Sony Ericsson K810i. good camera. thats all.
served its time well. but i wanted more from a phone....
C) What were your top alternative candidates for the phone prior to the Xperia X1? (in order of importance)(including reasons why)
N82. awesome specs but at the time the price was a little steep and i was a poor student.
so i settled for the cheaper alternative.
[D] Other Facts
really hope theres an awesome wm6.5 phone by q4 this yr to replace my X1.
maybe HTC Firestone or X2??
i want to stick to wm cos i like customizing and modding my phone.
A)
touch pro
b) himalaya
c) only himalaya
I have the legend for almost 10th days now and i have to say I love the experience. I have 2 concerns though:
according to the review by gsmarena.com the phone should have an excellent ringing volume bit o don't really feel this way specially the speaker grill is at the bottom and most of the time it's muffled. is there a problem with the speaker or what?
also i noticed that most people are more interested in the nexus or the desire. I'm worried that the legend wouldn't get a fair share of updates or apps from HTC or other developers? will this be the case or what?
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i find the ring volume fine at home when laying flat its still loud enough and in your pocket its definitely loud enough if your worried about volume you can always boost the audio track volume in an audio editor then put it on the phone.
the legend is still pretty popular, id assume when it comes to apps the only thing that needs to be supported is the screen resolution and while it is low compared to the others it is still a common android supported res so i dont think it will be a problem (i think apps auto scale ?)
also when it comes to the power of the legend vs say nexus one or desire there is no problem there the legend actually handles full 3d apps better than the nexus one and desire this is probably due to the larger screen resolution
in neocore 3d bench my legend got 31fps the nexus one in a video i watch only got 21-25fps so surprisingly the legend handles 3d better than the higher end models
id call the legend more of the top of the midrange its the mainstream device and from what i gather it is doing well as many people opt for it over the larger devices
ultimatly time will tell but yes id assume that the legend will be 100% supported from everyone
however i am waiting for an update or a way to enable live wallpapers but in the mean time im gonna go test quake on the legend
I find max ringing volume inadequate, for the 1st time ever I miss calls cause I don't hear the phone ringing. Boosting ringtones helps only a little, unfortunately.
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I bought some ibeats from best buy all excited of course, came home and unbox'd them. Apparently the headphones with the talk control in them sound like there's is a major Flanger effect in them unless you press the talk button.
and i tried it with the AT&T xperia's which were at best buy tried different pair and they sound exactly the same.
Anyone else out there using dre. beats with there xperia without any problems
I can only use the ones from x10 to get good sound others dont work on x10
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My Solos never worked with my Xperia. Infact neither did regular iPod headphones. Quite annoying.
i tried 2 different android phones now they work perfectly fine its just the freaking Xperia , im just tired of this phone. No more SE brand's for me. квартиры посуточно Тюмень
rsingh612 said:
I bought some ibeats from best buy all excited of course, came home and unbox'd them. Apparently the headphones with the talk control in them sound like there's is a major Flanger effect in them unless you press the talk button.
and i tried it with the AT&T xperia's which were at best buy tried different pair and they sound exactly the same.
Anyone else out there using dre. beats with there xperia without any problems
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If you get the ones without the mic they should work fine.. tried it with a whole bunch of headphones so that I could choose the right one (ended up with Denon D1001 - great set, esp with X10)
Yeah, Sony switched the contacts around on the plug compared to how everyone else does it.
Should work ok if you plug the headphones into the clicker instead of directly into the phone. Well, the headphone part will anyways.
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if your headphone has a mic, ie with 3 bands on your jack, it won't work. apparently , sony has its own thing concerning mic, but the regular 3.5 mm jack, with just 2 bands, it should work just fine.
Hi Guys,
Question - is the external speaker good enough quality to listen to music. I have a Desire HD, & I must say it is painful to listen to.
I cannot use headphones in the job I do, but I do work in a quiet enviroment. the Desire HD is just soooo tinny it really does border on painful, to the point where it almost gives you a headache.
Whats the Galaxy S 2 like as I have an upgrade waiting, I just need to choose a candidate. I know I am never going to find stunning loud quality, but I just want something adequate, & as much as I love the HTC phones, enough just may be enough, although I am sticking with Android come what may!!
Cheers guys, Shane
There's another thread that's talking about sound quality, part of my reply is pertinent:
"Listening with the loudspeaker:
The Nokia (5800) absolutely blows it away, but then it's probably got the best stereo speakers of any smartphone. The Sammy doesn't have the volume, and it sounds thin and harsh compared to the Nokia.
However, other reviews suggest it's better than it's main competition (the HTC Sensation)... so basically I've been spoiled by the Nokia, and the Sammy is perfectly serviceable."
I should add that 'perfectly serviceable' is in the sense of what a non-audiophile will expect from a phone, to play videos and occasional music. If you're the sort of guy who spends £100 on headphones or who ever bought more than one copy of What Hi-Fi, then you'll not be so happy. But then, what can you expect of a super-slim smartphone? The Nokia is a fat old thing, plenty of room for decent speakers inside it. So you pays your money and you takes your choice
maybe its time to stop competing with :"who's gonnna make it thinner?" and instead put in the phone decent audio speakers. (especially ear speaker is a joke in SGS2) IT IS A PHONE in a first place !!!!
to your question, in comparison to HTC the sound is better and louder, compare to for example to Nokias phone it's horrible, compare to Iphone - my wife has one so I am comparing every day, it's not that bad but unfortunatelly iPhone still wins in clarity and crisper sound.
Cheers Guys,
I must say I do enjoy my music in various forms. I only really want this for background music whilst working, but then again I do not want to be sat there cringing with every guitar note, lol
It does sound, (pardon the pun), like the sound is better than the HTC so that in itself may sway me.
Cheers guys, think I need an audition sometime soon.
Cheers, Shane
Yeah, call in at an O2 shop - they seem to be the only one (in Milton Keynes) that I've been to that have both phones on display, working properly, at the same time. And they do seem quite helpful so I'm sure they'll let you try them both.
(But I wouldn't actually buy my phone from them - I'm an existing O2 customer and they quoted me £200 for the handset + 24 x £27, 300 minutes,300 texts,500mb data. I went to P4U and got £Free + 24 x £27, 600 minutes,unlimited texts,500mb data + £30 cashback if I took their insurance for 3 months (which I'm cancelling))
On mtg S1, the call volume was just horrible, could not hear callers well enough. It's only marginally better on S2. Any way to beef it up?
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Same with the headset volume. I first blamed my wifes carkit when she called me. But I was wrong
Try Volume +
jje
it's been 6 months and this problem hasn't been fixed. Nor will it. Suck it up or buy a working phone
Volume + doesn't work on call volume and on other audio applications crashes constantly. Volume on SGS 2 is the wors't feature of this otherwise grat phone....
Some people report that 2.3.5. firmware increases volume. When official update comes to UK unbranded phones I will check the audio settings and will see.
Never had a low call volume on KF3, nor having in KI3. Well it's not loud, but still no way it's too low, like SE W series devices. However the Headset volume in a call was horribly low on KF3, I didn't check it yet in KI3. Another boring part is not providing a software option for Disabling/Enabling the Noise Cancellation while we have it in hardware. Some things are very kiddish in this device, rather with Samsung.
Any other tips please?
I took a call in a shopping mall yesterday and could barely hear who it was. Turned out it was a family member. The call volume on this phone is rubbish.
How can I jack it up higher than. It can go?
Volume Control+ - no joy.
I start believing that all Android phones have low call volume, and especially Samsung phones. I tried 2 HTC phones and they were same as Samsung. Before SGS 2 I had Samsung i8910, Symbian phone, at least I could increase the volume to my comfort in service mode settings and the stayed put. No, there is nothing wrong with my ears, I also have Nokia N95 for spare phone and Nokia E7 and the volume on these phones is excellent without any tweaks. And I don't even want to start talking about my wife's Iphone 4..... I don't like Apple products at all, but the sound of her phone and crisp sound of speaker phone is way way better than SGS2. Maybe it's time to stop making world's thinnest phone and start making world's best sounding phone, Samsung?
I'll save ya all some trouble! Follow the link below and do exactly as it says. And remember you gotta do this everytime you reboot your phone, I know its stupid but works 100%.
http://www.ctrlplusz.com/2011/06/fix-for-low-microphone-volume-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
Hope that Helped! Cheers!
Hi sahildeswal, I know about this settings, I played with this probably 200 times trying to set it up any possible way, it always comes back to original levels. Sometimes after reboot the phone, sometimes it lasts 2 - 3 phone calls and it goes back to original values. I have unbranded UK version, stock firmware. I think my next phone will not be Samsung, I will try the new Note and if the sound is same (horrible) I give up.
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Hi sahildeswal, I know about this settings, I played with this probably 200 times trying to set it up any possible way, it always comes back to original levels. Sometimes after reboot the phone, sometimes it lasts 2 - 3 phone calls and it goes back to original values. I have unbranded UK version, stock firmware. I think my next phone will not be Samsung, I will try the new Note and if the sound is same (horrible) I give up.
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I have same problem, the volume is low and the call voice quality is terrible (it is dificult to understand me when I speak).
If I speak in handsfree mode, the working micro is the top micro, and it works perfectly, quality is ok and volume is ok.
If I do skype call (in test mode), the working micro is the bottom micro (the same micro to do a phone call). If I do it with my galaxy and with another android phone that works ok, the sound quality is similar each other.
If I do a phone call with a stock rom the sound quality is not ok, but the few times I tested it, it was usable. The problem is that I have no root, essential for me because I use DroidWall and Titanium Backup.
I don't understand nothing and I don't know whant to do...
(sorry for my terrible english)
Sorry to say I think those with problems are either talking to people who are using crap phones with low mic volumes, like a LOT of house phones these days (Just try talking to someone who has called you from a HTC Desire, and your SGS2 ear piece will blow your ear drum
Mine is perfectly loud enough, my voice is crystal to other callers, and I can hear them perfectly.
This is on half volume. Maybe I have good ears? I doubt it lol.
Ive used KJ2 KJ1 KF3 and KE7. Black SGS2 on orange in the UK, unlocked, if that helps. Right now i'm on KJ2 - Stock.
My HTC Desire tended to blow my ear off too, so the theory about android phones having low volume is baloney im afraid.
Samsung SGS2 is best modern phone out there, (modern "good" phone that is) , call volume and quality included.
One thing I can say is this. If you are rooted (tut tut) and have a crap... I mean custom ROM (tut tut), then stop blaming Samsung as rooting makes it your fault. You destroyed your own phones by installing Crap roms.. I mean custom roms..
You dont need to backup if you dont keep messing around with your phones.
DISCLAIMER: I am grumpy as its work time and its early morning. All this is simply frustration at people blaming a non existant problem at a company that won't deal with it as it doesnt exist. Use an Xperia X10 and then come back and you'll see.
Peace out.
biffsmash said:
Sorry to say I think those with problems are either talking to people who are using crap phones with low mic volumes, like a LOT of house phones these days (Just try talking to someone who has called you from a HTC Desire, and your SGS2 ear piece will blow your ear drum
Mine is perfectly loud enough, my voice is crystal to other callers, and I can hear them perfectly.
This is on half volume. Maybe I have good ears? I doubt it lol.
Ive used KJ2 KJ1 KF3 and KE7. Black SGS2 on orange in the UK, unlocked, if that helps. Right now i'm on KJ2 - Stock.
My HTC Desire tended to blow my ear off too, so the theory about android phones having low volume is baloney im afraid.
Samsung SGS2 is best modern phone out there, (modern "good" phone that is) , call volume and quality included.
One thing I can say is this. If you are rooted (tut tut) and have a crap... I mean custom ROM (tut tut), then stop blaming Samsung as rooting makes it your fault. You destroyed your own phones by installing Crap roms.. I mean custom roms..
You dont need to backup if you dont keep messing around with your phones.
DISCLAIMER: I am grumpy as its work time and its early morning. All this is simply frustration at people blaming a non existant problem at a company that won't deal with it as it doesnt exist. Use an Xperia X10 and then come back and you'll see.
Peace out.
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Sorry, but you just went all wrong when you called custom ROMS crappy, while the call volume is good for me, other people may find it a bit on the soft side, but give respect where respect is due, I can put custom ROMS with everything working and best your SGS2 on a stock ROM any day, all day, educate yourself a lot more before you call anything crap, regardless of your Grumpy mood.....
You don't know what you are talking about. And I bet you never flashed a phone either.
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Use an Xperia X10 and then come back and you'll see.
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