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There seem to be lots of glowing reviews of the Prophet, but very few complaints.
I recently purchased an Imate JAMin after owning a C500 for quite some time, and I have to say that I am unfortunately disappointed with my experience thus far.
I really am trying to like this device (especially given that I am now stuck with it) but am finding it hard.
Unless I just have a bad unit, do you people not agree that the sound quality is deplorable? Not just for playing music out of the poorly placed speaker on the back of the device, but also the sound quality coming from the earpiece.
Do you remember making your own 'mobile' phones using tin cans and string as kids? THOSE had better sound quality than the Prophet.
What do you guys think?
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Prophet - makes a great paper weight
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Hey,
I'll gladly take it off your hands.
In fact, I'll send you a proper paper weight in exchange.
Send me your address.
Randy Lahey said:
There seem to be lots of glowing reviews of the Prophet, but very few complaints.
I recently purchased an Imate JAMin after owning a C500 for quite some time, and I have to say that I am unfortunately disappointed with my experience thus far.
I really am trying to like this device (especially given that I am now stuck with it) but am finding it hard.
Unless I just have a bad unit, do you people not agree that the sound quality is deplorable? Not just for playing music out of the poorly placed speaker on the back of the device, but also the sound quality coming from the earpiece.
Do you remember making your own 'mobile' phones using tin cans and string as kids? THOSE had better sound quality than the Prophet.
What do you guys think?
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I do agree. The prophet does have this, I believe, as its one weakness.
My previous experience with spv phones, and the qtek 2020, sadly seems a bit the same.
I do like the my qtek s200, dispite this fact... I almost miss my 2020 a bit... but I am sure a couple of ROM updates will fix the sound issues you are talking about.
The phone, though, is very capable and I have learned to live with this for now.
Kind regards, G.
Randy Lahey said:
There seem to be lots of glowing reviews of the Prophet, but very few complaints.
I recently purchased an Imate JAMin after owning a C500 for quite some time, and I have to say that I am unfortunately disappointed with my experience thus far.
I really am trying to like this device (especially given that I am now stuck with it) but am finding it hard.
Unless I just have a bad unit, do you people not agree that the sound quality is deplorable? Not just for playing music out of the poorly placed speaker on the back of the device, but also the sound quality coming from the earpiece.
Do you remember making your own 'mobile' phones using tin cans and string as kids? THOSE had better sound quality than the Prophet.
What do you guys think?
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Using my Dopod 818Pro for nearly 3 months, never have a feeling of that extremely bad sound quality. However, agree with you that the speaker is misplaced but many PPC phones also place their speaker on the back. Don't know why?
The standard sound quality of a magician isn't gooed either. Now I use Mortplayer (with equalizer) for mp3's etc & plugin a decent headphone (with a 3.5mm -> 2.5mm converter) it changed a hell of a lot. Phone calls aren't changed by this of course & indeed my old Nokia has a better sound quality during a call :-( It doesn't bother me too much anymore, after 9 months of use I'm used to it.
Regards, M
Other "issues" with my prophet
I have had my qtek s200 - aka prophet - for a week now, and have even more "issues" to point out why Randy's point is re-enforced!
Just off the top of my head, did anyone mention:
1) from previous HTC mobiles I have had (qtek 2020, spv 200, qtek 8310), why, ohh, why did they put the power button on the side! I find it hard to hit, both with regard to location and the fact it seems to be in a hole ;-)
2) really a bad phone - generally for dialing (unless you are using speed dial), as I have found touchpad buttons small and not as responsive as my previous qtek 2020.
3) can't seem to get around the "invalid vendor id" - thus haven't been able to update rom yet (or change t9 dll files) - just another reason.
4) volume is VERY low - hence poor speakerphone volume and I CAN'T USE IT AS AN ALARM! HELLOOOO! :roll:
Other than that - the phone - if you can call it that... better call it - the PDA - work nicely.
G.
I believe that someone should view the product before u pay the money.
and by viewing someone should at least has an idea what the product is being like. In case it is over internet. I think some "homework" should be done before the "ENTER" button is hit.
I'm willing to exchange ur "paper weight" with 2 real paper weight. Deal?
Havn't seen any threads around here about the quality of the loudspeaker, like for mp3 ringtones and such.
I have an XDA2i and the sound is tiny, with no real range, but it does get loud enough to hear ok. I'm wondering, could anyone with an HD post a quick paragraph about how the sound is over loudspeaker.
Also, i understand there is a system equalizer. does this effect the loud speaker or only music over headphones?
Thanks, i'm waiting patiently on mine to be delivered but it's been playing on my mind (excuse the pun )
.....BANE
Considering it's a tiny speaker it's not bad. No complaints.
There is an EQ program called 'Audio Booster' which is also integrated with the TF3D music player, this does only work with headphones.
very bad sound from the speakers,quite possibly the worse i have experienced of any phone.
ringtones are quite good, i am referring to multimedia playback through the speakers.
yes I agree, it really is awful.
The speaker in it is worse than listening to a single mini headphone placed in the middle of a table. Terrible! Considering the price, a decent speaker would have been nice . .
as would a flash for the camera
as would GPS that didnt take 5 minutes
as would the ability to play movies without them stuttering
as would the ability to view flash content in web pages
as would the ability to store stuff on decent internal storage
I know all the arguments for the above, size, weight, battery . . . but you have to remember what we all paid for this device. We paid a HECK of a lot of money.
mmm.. so it coulld bea little disappointing. I guess as long as it is better than myxda2i, i'll be happy
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very bad sound from the speakers,quite possibly the worse i have experienced of any phone.
ringtones are quite good, i am referring to multimedia playback through the speakers.
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the trinity was worse - I don't mind the sound quality which is just lacking basses but is not crackling...
mmm that's good. on full volume songs on the 2i were cracky. i didn't expect any bass really.
WOW, we're talking about a tiny little speaker on a phone, think some people are being a bit picky.
I'll admit though, It's not as good quality as the B&W's I have hooked up in my house
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WOW, we're talking about a tiny little speaker on a phone, think some people are being a bit picky.
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Philo, I do take your point honest I do, but my point is that we are paying between €600 and €700 for this puppy. That's like buying a Rolls Royce. You expect everything to be perfect and of excellent quality. Is that not a fair expectation for that amount of money?
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Philo, I do take your point honest I do, but my point is that we are paying between €600 and €700 for this puppy. That's like buying a Rolls Royce. You expect everything to be perfect and of excellent quality. Is that not a fair expectation for that amount of money?
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Yer I guess that's true
Personally I would use the multimedia features of the phone on the move with headphones so don't really consider this a particularly important feature of the device.
no complaints, i think the speaker is very good, much better than the diamond!
gt112 said:
Philo, I do take your point honest I do, but my point is that we are paying between €600 and €700 for this puppy. That's like buying a Rolls Royce. You expect everything to be perfect and of excellent quality. Is that not a fair expectation for that amount of money?
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No sir, you're not being fair. First of all, the device is not expensive, if we're to be honest about it. My uncle paidmore than usd 10,000 for a car battery size phone years back. My first brick sized phone cost close to usd 2000. Now you have phone/gps/mp3/camera/video recorder/video player/computer/radio for a mere fraction when inflation should have pushed it to usd 70,000, but we're paying 100th of that.
Next, if you're expecting a perfect quality sound, buy an FM broadcast device and play your music over your car speaker, or wire it to your home HIFI system (which I often do), or buy a good quality headset and listen to your music in that way. The speaker on the phone is mainly for the ringtone. If it is loud enough to alert you, that's mostly enough. Don't expect AC3, or 5.1 sound coming out of that because one should never try to enjoy good music from this tiny little speaker.
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Yer I guess that's true
Personally I would use the multimedia features of the phone on the move with headphones so don't really consider this a particularly important feature of the device.
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Same.
As long as it plays the ringtones loud enough for me to hear them - i'm happy.
These comparisons are hard for some of us. The Touch HD has attracted many new users to WinMo.
How does it compare to Nokia phones such as the N95, N95 8GB etc.
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Don't expect AC3, or 5.1 sound coming out of that...
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Soon.... soon it will be so And projectors too please!!!
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These comparisons are hard for some of us. The Touch HD has attracted many new users to WinMo.
How does it compare to Nokia phones such as the N95, N95 8GB etc.
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Ha ha.. I don't blame you. Most of you may not be born yet when the battery size phone first emerged..
The electronic manufacturing industry is a tough and competitive one. The speed of a product becoming obsolete is frightening. A design flaw and pricing error can cause seriuos problem. The production line have to be changed all the time for new models. I have listened to a speech by the owner/ceo of the company which manufactures iPhone and have lots of respect for the continuous drives for efficiency, technology vision, and good judgement.
A sofa, table, and furniture can still sell 10 years 20 years later if there is no demand now. But an 2 MP camera that does not sell within a certain time frame is a junk that nobody wants. So, they cannot afford to charge too much and to overprice.
Sorry a little off topic. But just to make a point that HD is not really expensive. It is good value.
My first mobile made calls, received calls and featured a fantastic 1ish inch 'widescreen' mono (1 colour) lcd screen
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no complaints, i think the speaker is very good, much better than the diamond!
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I agree with that. The HD speaker is very good to alert me to incoming calls, and gives very good in-call volume. If I want to listen to quaity audio, I'l be putting in the headphones. The diamond has terrible volume in comparison. It's a bit of an issue, but not insurmountable. The HD, in my view, is more than fine.
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My first mobile made calls, received calls and featured a fantastic 1ish inch 'widescreen' mono (1 colour) lcd screen
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Yeah my first's ultra mega new and awesome feature was receiving text messages.
Insaneboy said:
Yeah my first's ultra mega new and awesome feature was receiving text messages.
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I remember when pda's first were able to accomodate a sim card, and take calls. This was new fangled nonsense that I was completely unwilling to trust. I carried an iPaq and a seperate phone for a number of years. It wasn't until tytn that I felt that the phone ability of the combined smartphones was good enough to dispense with a dedicated phone.
Edit....
actually the SE P900 was my first smartphone where I dispensed with my ipaq (which just became a dedicated satnav). Tytn was the first WM smartphone I trusted for phone calls.
Hello all my first post here
I wanted to buy HTC TOUCH HD to replace my N95 8GB since i like WM phones but i have some questions before doing this:
1_How is the overall build quality of this phone ?
2_How is the audio quality in both headset and loudspeaker ? for example compared to devices like my N95 ?
3_How is the screen sensitivity?
4_Is it upgradeable to windows mobile 6.5?
i've many reviews but i wanted to ask the people who own this phone
Thanks
build quality is outstandind
touchscreen is wonderful, can even be tuned with a 3rd party program (hdtweak).
I have myself been running a custom made wm6.5 for about 3-4 months already, but it's everyone's choice if you want to use custom made or stick to stock.
can't really say or know if htc is going to release a stock 6.5 for touch hd or not.... those who know are not allowed to say - those who don't know have grown bored to continually to ask that
abe
thanks and how is the sound quality ?
Amiri,
The phone's build quality is sturdy. The only point is that it creeks once in a while when it is at a certain angle in the central part of the back cover due to the empty hollow space between the back cover and the battery. Slipping a piece of folded paper will be able to fix this issue easily if it bothers you that much.
The screen sensitivity is fine. However, due to the nature of resistive screens, the corner of the screens are not as sensitive as the center portion of the screens. In reality, we're talking about a 20 ~ 30 % difference in pressure required. Will you notice this? Yes. Will it bug you? Unlikely.
And no, the TouchHD will not be getting the -official- 6.5 upgrade. However, I'm sure rom cookers will get theirs in. If you want the stock upgrades, go with TouchPro2 or TouchDiamond.
Cheers.
thanks well i like TOUCH HD more than Pro2/Diamond2 because of bigger screen also i like its design more,
but u guys didn't talk about the audio quality,how is it ?
MaziarAmiri said:
thanks well i like TOUCH HD more than Pro2/Diamond2 because of bigger screen also i like its design more,
but u guys didn't talk about the audio quality,how is it ?
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TC,
I'm sorry but I don't know much about the headjack quality as I don't use it much. However, the speaker is pretty hollow and low on the bass. Nothing to yell about. My w800i has a much better speaker.
I'm sure the headjack output will be good if you used quality earphones.
Cheers.
the sound quality through the headphone jack is outstanding !
i have the nokia N95 as well and i can tell you that it is much better and much louder (the n95 was not that loud, at least compared to the HD).
i don't know about the speaker quality though. it's good for calls but no clue about music...
by the way, the stock earphones are good enough (at least for me, but i'm not a music whore)
~sekibun
hey mate, congratulations on making your mind for the move!
I too had changed from nokia n95, first time going for a windows mobile, and here are my thoughts..
about the build, it seems solid, compact and no squeezes what so ever.
touch screen sensitivity is alright i guess, i find it to be sluggish a bit when trying to browse through programs, its a bit glitchy. But then again, this is my first windows mobile, so am not sure how it performs compared to other similar devices.
About sound quality, having had a nokia n95, it is utterly disappointing, you have to say bye to the beautiful stereo sound of the n95. when you set a ringtone and receive a call, it sounds like an old radio ( the one with one speaker and a big knob to tune). headphone quality isnt a whole lot better either, definitely inferior to n95. You will have to sacrifice sound quality for functionality...and i must say, its worth it so far i am loving this phone, apart from the continuous paranoia of scratching the screen, and the constant wiping of fingerprints of the screen, this phone is truly brilliant!
One more thing...you will be a little disappointed with battery life, its 2-3 days max if you use it ONLY as a phone lol.
Good luck
alien79 said:
hey mate, congratulations on making your mind for the move!
I too had changed from nokia n95, first time going for a windows mobile, and here are my thoughts..
about the build, it seems solid, compact and no squeezes what so ever.
touch screen sensitivity is alright i guess, i find it to be sluggish a bit when trying to browse through programs, its a bit glitchy. But then again, this is my first windows mobile, so am not sure how it performs compared to other similar devices.
About sound quality, having had a nokia n95, it is utterly disappointing, you have to say bye to the beautiful stereo sound of the n95. when you set a ringtone and receive a call, it sounds like an old radio ( the one with one speaker and a big knob to tune). headphone quality isnt a whole lot better either, definitely inferior to n95. You will have to sacrifice sound quality for functionality...and i must say, its worth it so far i am loving this phone, apart from the continuous paranoia of scratching the screen, and the constant wiping of fingerprints of the screen, this phone is truly brilliant!
One more thing...you will be a little disappointed with battery life, its 2-3 days max if you use it ONLY as a phone lol.
Good luck
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Just to add to alien79's comments:
One thing the HD (and other windows mobile devices) has over the N95 is the ability to add additional software, tweaks, new OS, etc etc. If you search and read threads in this forum along with the wiki you'll notice that you can completely flash a new rom with tweaks for speed, smoothness and stability as well as fixes for sound quality, stuttering etc. All you need to do is search, read, ask questions and you'll find that almost everything you seek is awaiting you!!
Yes the most reason that i'm getting a winmo phone is because of its customizations but i really need a phone that has a good audio quality,i'm getting mixed results here one say its better than N95 the other guy says its worse my only concern is the phoens audio quality now,and i am getting mixed answers
MaziarAmiri said:
Yes the most reason that i'm getting a winmo phone is because of its customizations but i really need a phone that has a good audio quality,i'm getting mixed results here one say its better than N95 the other guy says its worse my only concern is the phoens audio quality now,and i am getting mixed answers
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You remind me when i decided to buy this phone and had sleepless nights thinking if it was a right decision , dont worry though, its a forum, getting different responses is anticipated, as people have different opinions, and different music taste. Ofcourse having a good headphones is going to improve the sound quality, and as Fallen star mentioned (not that i have tried yet, as am still a noob) maybe different roms and tweaks can improve sound quality. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about the phone`s speaker...you will have live with it, and having such a great phone in my opinion, makes it easy to ignore this minor slip....
lay back, relax and think microsoft
So loudspeaker is bad? strange because gsmarena.com gave "Excellent" to TOUCH HD's loud speaker:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p4.php
MaziarAmiri said:
So loudspeaker is bad? strange because gsmarena.com gave "Excellent" to TOUCH HD's loud speaker:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_hd-review-300p4.php
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that is a decible scale, solely to measure the "loundness" of the sound, nothing to do with quality. Bear in mind that an airoplane as around 120 db sound scale, that aint pretty sound eh
So if the phones audio quality isn't good i guess i have to wait for a better model from HTC
Long time lurker here and I have migrated from Winmo back in the day to Symbian and then to HTC's N1. Have also tried many other deivces along the way but thought this could have been it!
Unfortunately, I have been spoiled by the Nokia 5800. The sound quality from this thing is superb both for music playback and for speakerphone and I use it for both these purposes a lot. I had read about the N1 sound quality but thought the other bells and whistles would make me forget about it, sadly not.
The N1 I am sure is a great device but for now I am back to the Nokia. Perhaps with a little more time and patience I would learn to love the operating system of Android 2.1 but the hardware limitations (speaker and camera in the main) have led me to place my 2 day old Nexus One on the market.
For anyone interested, it's in the marketplace HERE for £449.99.
I will keep a close eye on Android and with MWC just around the corner, perhaps I will be tempted back when the hardware is available to match the O/S!
That's $707.25... I can buy a new on and have it sent overnight for ~$600.
Not trying to troll or anything, just a tip if you plan on selling it to anybody in the US.
I would troll.. thats a ripoff and he knows it
To bad it did not work out for U...mine keeps getting better by the day! Well best of luck to ya selling it at that price...
I am going to bite my tongue... your logic is very flawed in many ways.
It may not be a rip off when you include the VAT he would have had to pay. We can get it cheaper here in the U.S. sure, but what is the total bill (including VAT) for someone in the U.K.?
IRT sound quality the speaker phone is utter crap but music is not bad if you have a decent set of headphones attached.
It sounds about right. My total came up about £441 after the VAT.
I agree re speaker sound but I'm saving up for QC 15 and I hope it will sound good enough not to buy an dedicated player.
I have been using my Nexus one since the day after it was announced. I also have an HD2, iPhone 3Gs and we just got a new Palm Pre Plus to play around with testing for our users. Overall, my favorite is the N1 for customization, but there is one thing with the N1 that keeps pulling me back to my jailbroke iPhone and that is they keyboard. The iPhone keyboard is just so much easier to use. The only reason I can understand why is that it has multitouch. I often miss letters while keying on the N1 and best I can tell its when I hit the next letter before I lift my other thumb off the previous one. So I can type so much quicker on the iPhone over the N1. Why can't the keyboard be multitouch on the N1?
Why use speaker phone, and the external speaker to listen to music anyway? Get a decent set of headphones and a BT ear peace and be done. The former were never intended to be used in such a way for longer than when you have nothing better available and need to set the phone down. Its like expecting your netbook to game like your desktop, you set your self up to be disappointed.
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I have been using my Nexus one since the day after it was announced. I also have an HD2, iPhone 3Gs and we just got a new Palm Pre Plus to play around with testing for our users. Overall, my favorite is the N1 for customization, but there is one thing with the N1 that keeps pulling me back to my jailbroke iPhone and that is they keyboard. The iPhone keyboard is just so much easier to use. The only reason I can understand why is that it has multitouch. I often miss letters while keying on the N1 and best I can tell its when I hit the next letter before I lift my other thumb off the previous one. So I can type so much quicker on the iPhone over the N1. Why can't the keyboard be multitouch on the N1?
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Try smart keyboard pro from the market
I will admit, the speaker on the N1 is not that great.
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Why use speaker phone, and the external speaker to listen to music anyway? Get a decent set of headphones and a BT ear peace and be done. The former were never intended to be used in such a way for longer than when you have nothing better available and need to set the phone down. Its like expecting your netbook to game like your desktop, you set your self up to be disappointed.
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I agree with this so much, I honestly do not know what you were expecting from a mere cellphone - even though some may have superb sound playback, I honestly never have "high expectations" for the quality of the speaker. Honestly, I never knew people so extensively used the speakerphone on a device enough to actually make them completely regret the phone.
I also thought that having a 5 megapixel camera (with flash) would make the phone an awesome device to take pictures with, it seems to me you simply wanted to complain, then sell the device - and this seemed to be the correct place to do it. I know that I'm wrong, but thats my 2 cents on the matter..
I use my N1 for music all the time, and think it sounds great. In the dock over bluetooth to my computer's speakers it sounds great. With my QC2's plugged in it sounds like I'm in da club.
The speakerphone is a speakerphone...I don't expect 5.1 out of it. What's with people???
I hate the standard OSK, so I installed the HTC-IME, and love it! Why do people quit so easily these days when we have SO many options?
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Long time lurker here and I have migrated from Winmo back in the day to Symbian and then to HTC's N1. Have also tried many other deivces along the way but thought this could have been it!
Unfortunately, I have been spoiled by the Nokia 5800. The sound quality from this thing is superb both for music playback and for speakerphone and I use it for both these purposes a lot. I had read about the N1 sound quality but thought the other bells and whistles would make me forget about it, sadly not.
The N1 I am sure is a great device but for now I am back to the Nokia. Perhaps with a little more time and patience I would learn to love the operating system of Android 2.1 but the hardware limitations (speaker and camera in the main) have led me to place my 2 day old Nexus One on the market.
For anyone interested, it's in the marketplace HERE for £449.99.
I will keep a close eye on Android and with MWC just around the corner, perhaps I will be tempted back when the hardware is available to match the O/S!
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Wow, what an idiot.
From the other thread:
I have listed my brand new Nexus One on eBay, simply because the speaker is not loud enough for me having come from the Nokia 5800.
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So your only reason, let me rephrase, the ***ONLY*** reason you are returning it is because the speaker is not loud enough?
A) There is an audio hack in the works that will make the N1 MUCH louder than your Nokia, guaranteed. Here are the links for the N1 (in production) and G1 hacks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618058
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517745
B) Why don't you try using the rest of the phone???
C) You're selling it for $175 more than the unsubsidized cost. WTF????
This has to be one of the dumbest threads I've seen in a long time.
????????
He's right in that the phone's speaker does leave something to be desired--Nokia phones generally have higher-equality speakers, what with them taking their "music phones" awfully seriously (I came to the N1 from the 5730 Xpressmusic: ****ty phone in every way but playback quality). It's a shame their devices aren't good for much else. Well, except durability. Those little buggers can withstand a lot of abuse.
I find it amazing that just because of the speaker he's prepared to loose all the other fantastic benefits of this amazing device... but still, different people, different priorities I guess. Myself I bought an £8 Veho360, very small and makes the music/podcasts sound like they're coming from a Hi Fi (Well, not quite... )
On the price, it is a bit cheeky he's trying to then make a profit. Mine cost £355 shipped and I may get a £60 VAT receipt soon. Having said that, there are peope on eBay asking £500 for it... I assume some idiots pay that.
Yeah, I wish my speaker was louder too (because I prefer to carry only one device to act as phone, tiny computer, media player and all) but it's far from a dealbreaker. Listening to music on it while out in public places is obnoxious, anyway, so I use the headphone.
Speaking of which, many people in countries other than the US/UK/Singapore/Hong Kong are quite willing to pay in the region of $600-800 for the phone. Makes me wish I'd ordered a few extra. Would've made a tidy profit.
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Long time lurker here and I have migrated from Winmo back in the day to Symbian and then to HTC's N1. Have also tried many other deivces along the way but thought this could have been it!
Unfortunately, I have been spoiled by the Nokia 5800. The sound quality from this thing is superb both for music playback and for speakerphone and I use it for both these purposes a lot. I had read about the N1 sound quality but thought the other bells and whistles would make me forget about it, sadly not.
The N1 I am sure is a great device but for now I am back to the Nokia. Perhaps with a little more time and patience I would learn to love the operating system of Android 2.1 but the hardware limitations (speaker and camera in the main) have led me to place my 2 day old Nexus One on the market.
For anyone interested, it's in the marketplace HERE for £449.99.
I will keep a close eye on Android and with MWC just around the corner, perhaps I will be tempted back when the hardware is available to match the O/S!
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I have to say this is way off the mark.
firstly the 5800 is rubbish. I had one and the earphone volume was ultra low until you pushed the case. Faulty connection in 90% of 5800's made. the OS is a nasty mess of s60v3 and touch. Sometimes you need single touch, sometimes you need double touch.
The contruction quality is poor, to be charitable.
You might be right about the sound quality, I gave my 5800 back within 2 days so never really tried it. but HTC devices normally have pretty good sound, perhaps a third party player with different codec might improve, or further roms might improve in the future.
On every other stat I wouldn't even bother to compare the 5800 to the N1
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I would troll.. thats a ripoff and he knows it
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Not a ripoff if he sell it in the UK, and he will know there is no way a US citizen is gonna buy it, why would they?
They are selling on eBay for more than that over here.
Kev
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I agree with this so much, I honestly do not know what you were expecting from a mere cellphone - even though some may have superb sound playback, I honestly never have "high expectations" for the quality of the speaker. Honestly, I never knew people so extensively used the speakerphone on a device enough to actually make them completely regret the phone.
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A bit unfair on the guy, I agree the speaker is silly bad, and why? Nokia can and do put some nice speakers in some phones, 5800 and N95's come to mind as brilliant, and some stinkers a bad as the N1, like the E72, N97, N97 mini.
Even the iPhone speaker from flipping 3 years ago sounds quite nice when you have no choice but to use it instead of headphones.
Kev
Hey,
I was planing on getting this phone due to how cheap it is and wanting to try wp7 out.
I read a lot of issues about the phone and kind of discouraged.
The big question I have is should I just wait and see what "if" any newer wp7 phones are coming to Tmobile or should I take the plunge.
Please be honest lol You'll be saving a life if this phone really is a hassel.
the problems with this phone are fixed via new firmware and mango (most likely)
if you waited this long you could wait for the next batch to come out (like the searay)
but if you want a keyboard - this is the phone to get. It is also mad cheap!
i picked one up even tho i already have a w7 phone and i plan to get the new nokia too. (but i'm crazy)
A lot of the problems are reportedly fixed by the new (.212) firmware, which is due out this week! There's a good write-up in the article below.
http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-pro-users-new-fw-report/
My phone is very stable with wifi disabled i.e. no lockups or reboots in over 3 months. The wifi issue is apparently caused by a DMA conflict - the new firmware reportedly fixes this.
It's a very nice phone. I don't regret purchasing mine.
On the downside, the camera is relatively poor. It's also thicker than most phones as it has a (very good) hardware keyboard.
Your decision is whether to get an ageing phone (i.e. DVP) cheap or wait for the next generation devices. This is something you will have to decide for yourself
Great phone...
1. Terrible camera
2. Low (read very) heatset volume
Hence spoils your upload to Facebook fun and also the the zune experience...
I honestly don't recommend this phone
Using .212 .... very stable with wifi
Strange. For me, headset volume has been very good using ue-18 pros. Very powerful at 15/30. However, my DVP is running old firmware(.105) and crashes alot. Like the device, but am still waiting for an update.
mechmouni said:
2. Low (read very) heatset volume
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As mentioned by aFo3262, the type of headset / earbuds you have can also make a big difference.
I listen to my DVP on the underground using cheap Creative EP-630 earbuds and have never had a problem with the volume being too low. Earbuds that fit inside your ear often give the best volume. They also reduce noise leakage, as long as you have the right size rubber pads, so people around you don't hear what you're listening to.
These are the earbuds I used to use with my iPod. The iPod is louder - however, the DVP goes loud enough that I always leave my iPod at home
Thought I'd mention as I'm not sure how much Dell can / will do to increase the output of the earphone jack.
You should not be using earphones playing music loudly to cover up other loud noises. You will destroy your ears. I am travelling in the UK and I have to agree with magicsquid, on my Skullcandy over-ear headphones the trains and underground seem dull compared to my headset volume of 17/30.
I work outside (very noisy equipment) all day every day and use these:
http://na.audeoworld.com/products/perfectfit/
Highly recommend them.
mechmouni said:
Great phone...
1. Terrible camera
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nod nod to that.
the camera.. even in bright light, is crap!
volume is fine.. but i always keep it maxed. its max is lower than you'd expect. But i'm find with it
running 212 and mango beta 2.
I received mine from the eBay deal 2 days ago. It came with .212 firmware on it and I've had no issues. I put Mango on it today. Performance is good and I have no headphone issues - I'm listening at about 20 (out of 30).