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Low Quadrant scores on over clocked kernel

Im only scoring mid 900's, is that normal?
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Well it'd help if we knew how many mhz overclocked the kernel you're using is. But in most cases, if you're not on Voodoo and on an overclocked kernel, a 900 score sounds about right.

I'm going to guess it hangs up at the i/o test, correct?

SirGatez's blazing eclair voodoo kernels seem to score low on quadrant. Is that what your using?
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Skrazz said:
I'm going to guess it hangs up at the i/o test, correct?
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You know what, it never did until just today, why's that?
Kernel is in Signature, Geeknik Stupid fast Test Kernel 12.19.10, 1150mhz

Quadrant scores are harmed by rfs, the default filesystem on SGS devices.
Voodoo5 converts everything to ext4, which dramatically improves that section of the test.
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Quadrant scores in the 800-900 range are common without the Voodoo lag fix installed. As Alex pointed out, the RFS filesystem causes lots of write lag, which significantly drags down the Quadrant score (if you had the full version of Quadrant, you'd see that). With Voodoo converting the filesystem to ext4, you'll see your Quadrant score practically double. Unfortunately, Quadrant doesn't use tests that are equal to all types of CPU architectures, filesystems, etc., so the results aren't really a fair comparison of real world performance.
Smartbench 2010 is much more accurate, according to everything I've read, although they're having a little trouble with it getting accurate readings on the Galaxy S series for some reason. They're working on it though, and will likely have an updated version soon that will fairly test the Galaxy S series alongside all other Android phones.

[Q] really slow a500/ quadrant score 656???

Hi,
as i'm using my iconia a500 i noticed some heavy Performance issues. i rooted and installed several Roms but my Quadrant score keeps being low. right now i am on lightspeed 1.0.1 with Richard's Kernel and my Quadrant score is only 656!!!
i'm really curious about this any suggestions?
thanks in advance
kiark

Just a guess, but the cpu probably is not running full during the test. Might have to use a app to force to 1000 during the test.

Running 2.4 kernel? If so, the default intersctive scaling governor is borked so either use setcpu to change to on demand or flash back to 2.3. Im personally running 1.6ghz as max speed with on demand.

thank u very much, setting the cpu up with setcpu worked!

CPU really does not have much effect on quadrant score. It is the combination of the Rom and the kernel it self.
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IM using the xoom 3.2 rom
My acer is over clocked to 1.5 and here are my benchmark scores.
Useing Quadrant I got 3421 (best of three runs) and frame rates around 45
Useing Linpack I got 45.438 mflpos on single thread in 1.85 seconds and
71.53 mflops on multi-thread in 2.36 seconds again best of three runs
Useing AnTuTu Benchmark I got a score of 6159 and frame rates right at around 60 fps
Useing Vellamo (its new and a benchmark tool for a tablets browser to see how ell the browser performs does things like java and flash stress tests and load speeds of web pages) I got a score of 1072

naturallight said:
CPU really does not have much effect on quadrant score. It is the combination of the Rom and the kernel it self.
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not sure on this. if it doesnt have much effect why do you see such a huge difference between 216 Mhz and 1.5 Ghz clock speeds in quadrant?

How are your benchmarks so high?

It's been about a year since any benchmarking threads have been created for the A500, and I'm interested to see how people are getting better performance.
I'm running Flexreaper v5 and I score around 6200 in AnTuTu. One other ROMs and other kernels I'm getting around 4300. However, the AnTuTu comparison charts show quite a few people scoring 7500+ with the A500.
How are people getting such high results?

Overclocking maybe?

essevee said:
Overclocking maybe?
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Hoping for something a bit more specific. Kernel, ROM, CPU Frequency...
BTW - Mine is OCed to 1.5 GHz

Think I found one of the ROMs that's getting such high performance. I got the JB ROM from he would cannot be named, and this thing flies! 5600 in AnTuTu with no OC. Set GPU to 400 MHz and OC'ed CPU to 1.6 GHz, and that clocked in at 7225.

elmerohueso said:
Think I found one of the ROMs that's getting such high performance. I got the JB ROM from he would cannot be named, and this thing flies! 5600 in AnTuTu with no OC. Set GPU to 400 MHz and OC'ed CPU to 1.6 GHz, and that clocked in at 7225.
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I'd be a little careful at 1.6. Runs a little unstable, and is only for benchmarks.

Moscow Desire said:
I'd be a little careful at 1.6. Runs a little unstable, and is only for benchmarks.
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It looks like the new kernel allows clocking up to 1.68, so I have just left it at an even 1.6. I haven't run into any major instability so far (knock on wood), and I really like how smooth it is. I've finally been able to play Asphalt 7 smoothly (good way to blow off steam at work). Thanks, though.

Low Stock Quadrant Scores

I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?

The first thing you need to know about quadrant scores is................they are decieving, and usually bloated. If your N7 preforms well during use, then your good. Also, if they were that important, all rom and kernel developers would post them with their releases. They dont for a reason.
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snowman4839 said:
I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
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Honestly, who cares? Is your nexus laggy? Are you having trouble doing what you want to do? If not then screw it, you're fine. Why is everyone obsessed with idiotic scores and benchmarks? The girls won't sleep with you cuz your Quadrant was over 9000!

Quadrant has never given the Tegra3 Chip really good scores for some reason? Almost all other benchmarking apps like Antutu, CFBench, Vellemo, Smart-bench, and many others will give 3 phones that I have, that are very close in specs a much closer comparison. I don't know why it is but Quadrant has never benched any of my Tegra3 devices high.
And was stated above go by how it feels in real life usage, is it snappy and smooth don't go specifically by benchmarks all the time they can sometimes give you an idea, but they are not tell you real world usage. For example my moms Samsung Transform Ultra with Android 2.3 and a 1GHz single-core Snapdragon is still really snappy. Its hard to believe that it is almost as fast as some of my quad core newer devices.

I got 2883 on my bone stock while playing the walking dead...
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Why do you care about benchmark scores? They really really don't matter. What matters is how it performs during usage. Nothing else. You can have awesome scores, yet have the device lag during normal use.
From a Nexus S bathing in Jelly Beans

Alright well that was with the motley kernel and I'm not sure what was up but it felt pretty smooth with the motley kernel but gave me those terrible scores. Performance in GTA3 was a decent amount better than stock.
Then I restored the stock rom and installed M kernel and trickster Mod and after that because the benchmarks were just pissing me off. Overclocked to 1.6Ghz and did some SD modifications and jesus christ everything is buttery smooth, fast loading, gta3 runs awesome, and I can get a like 6200 score in quadrant and 15397 on AnTuTu. Probably the fastest anrdoid device I've ever used.
I just confuses the crap out of me because I get pretty crappy graphics scores and changing the GPU clock and raising the GPU voltage doesn't change the GPU score on either benchmark.
Can someone tell me what the LP core is and why my GPU scores won't change?

I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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quadrant doesn't matter, but it can be useful for developers or just for the fun of it. first off, most people don't bench correctly. you want the CPU to be at the highest CPU speed at all times, quadrant doesn't put enough stress on the device to allow that, so the CPU will scale. if it scales, you don't know the actual CPU speed that its testing. you want to set the CPU speed at the highest speed, and you want to set the lowest CPU speed as the highest speed also. also, for higher scores, you'd need to disable fsync, and turn off tegra hot plug(and enable all four cores). sdcard tweaks wont help you, neither will jays buttery tweaks. also, overclocking the GPU wont help since we are limited in fps.
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I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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where does the iPad mini show better benchmarks?

Well I've tried like 4 or 5 different kernels and m-kernel is the best. Only one that can score 15,000 on Antutu.
Can anyone riddle me why no matter what I change the gpu max frequency or voltages to, my 2d and 3d graphics are always the same?

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Well I've tried like 4 or 5 different kernels and m-kernel is the best. Only one that can score 15,000 on Antutu.
Can anyone riddle me why no matter what I change the gpu max frequency or voltages to, my 2d and 3d graphics are always the same?
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those benchmarks arent gpu benchmarks, especially quadrant. we are limited to 59/60 fps no matter what gpu you use. for gpu try basemark es2.0 taiji, gpu mark, or the windmill benchmark.
trinity kernel quadrant and antutu..

Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.

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Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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bench at 1700mhz high/1700mhz low. turn off tegra hotplug and enable all 4 cores(i dont know if trickster has that option, trinity kernel toolbox does), turn off fsync. trinity doent include zram, so you couldnt of used it. zram has nothing to do for performance anyways and doesnt help you with anything else. zram gives a little more ram for devices that are low ram to begin with. the n7 isnt low ram. plus, with zram, itll get slower after a few hours after bootup. i use ondemand/deadline btw. and, go into the devices main settings, developer options, and enable force gpu rendering. that raise your 2d score. i also bet that you are getting caught in the thermal throttle, which lowers your cpu speed when your device gets hot.

alright cool thanks for the info. I'll add in those settings minus the hotplug fix andsee what that does when I get.back. I know thermal throttling lowers scores. I've been doing tests recently on a bag of ice. the cpu stays plenty cool

snowman4839 said:
I'm getting pretty frustrated with my nexus 7 because I'm getting horribly low Quadrant scores. I tried messing around and putting custom kernels on it but when I compared the scores to the thread I was reading, I couldn't even get the stock scores mentioned in the thread with a overclocked custom kernel.
I'm getting a total of 3412 on my Nexus 7 on my stock kernel on the stock rooted/unlocked bootloader 4.2.1. I wiped the device, reinstalled the 4.2.1 stock backup, and then installed quadrant and ran it so there shouldn't be background processes problems. This pisses me off because on the Jay's Buttery Tweaks, he got 4875 on his stock kernel/stock ROM. Somethings wrong there. What would cause such a horrible score?
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WOW 3412 QS... Then if I show you this you will be pissed.
Full untouched Stock FL04 JB 4.1.2 SGSII E4GT. QS 4348
Quadrant Score are not important. If it performs well who cares about a QS.
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WOW 3412 QS... Then if I show you this you will be pissed.
Full untouched Stock FL04 JB 4.1.2 SGSII E4GT. QS 4348
Quadrant Score are not important. If it performs well who cares about a QS.
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Edited to delete comment as I was an idiot and did not read the above post fully before I opened my trap.
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I disagree, respectfully of course. Benchmarks like the Quadrant are useful standard tools to measure the performance of these devices. While they are not perfect, they point out potential weaknesses in our phones and tablets and whatnot.
Compared to stock Nexus 7, the iPad mini runs much more smoothly and yet is underpowered spec-wise. Still the mini puts up a better benchmark score than the superior N7.
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I disagree with that. Just by clearing up RAM and turning off Processes that were not being used just sitting in RAM, maybe 30 or 40MB, waiting to be used my score went up over 200 points. If the benchmark was accurate then that would not have actually made any difference as it would have cleared out any unused processes itself before running.
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snowman4839 said:
Jesus christ. Those are great results. What settings are you using? I installed trinity on a fresh restore of 4.2.1 and used Trickster Mod and System Tuner to set it to 1.7Ghz, performance, deadline, 1024 cache, zRAM enabled, fsync disabled, with stock voltages but I got barely over 5000.
I'm getting 6135 on the beefed up M-kernel. You get a decent amount higher in CPU, memory, and I/O, but your 2D score triples mine. 3D is the same.
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Wow. Really? Ive gotten 5900 with just 1.4GHz, GPU 2d rendering and clearing out some RAM, fsync disabled running M-Kernel a23.

Nexus benchmark

Hello.this is my antutu result.please share opinion and screenshots.i use cm10 stable with marmite kernel.
Whats your score?
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My first run was 2700 something, then i rebooted and got this. Running latest cm10.1 nightly, with marmite 8.4. Stock freq.
Looks like cm10 is way faster than cm10.1. OP do you have any mods?

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My first run was 2700 something, then i rebooted and got this. Running latest cm10.1 nightly, with marmite 8.4. Stock freq.
Looks like cm10 is way faster than cm10.1. OP do you have any mods?
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Yep i used oc 1400.I just flashed jellyshot with mermite kernel with 1.32 OC and smartass and got this

First two screens are result for cm-10.1-20130408-NIGHTLY rom with cm kernel.
The 3rd and 4th screenshot were made after updating to 20130416-NIGHTLY and flashing mermite-v8.5cm kernel.

Carbon ROM, no over clock and stock
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Over clocked 1300 Carbon ROM
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Yesterday I've overclocked CPU to 1100mHz on marmite_8.5 kernel and got score around 3850 but forgot to take a SS :/
Today, I flashed Air_Kernel_Weekly_r341_JBN_BlueColor_CM, overclocked CPU to 1200mHz and then made the test again. Results in first ss. After that I was courious what are the results for normal CPU frequency. So the results for the same kernel, running at 1000mHz are in the second screenshot.
So the best results were using Air kernel with overclocked CPU. When CPU wasn't overclocked the best results were with latest marmite kernel.
so, I urge CM10.1 users to post their results and that way we'll find the best config

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Yesterday I've overclocked CPU to 1100mHz on marmite_8.5 kernel and got score around 3850 but forgot to take a SS :/
Today, I flashed Air_Kernel_Weekly_r341_JBN_BlueColor_CM, overclocked CPU to 1200mHz and then made the test again. Results in first ss. After that I was courious what are the results for normal CPU frequency. So the results for the same kernel, running at 1000mHz are in the second screenshot.
So the best results were using Air kernel with overclocked CPU. When CPU wasn't overclocked the best results were with latest marmite kernel.
so, I urge CM10.1 users to post their results and that way we'll find the best config
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On general (my experience) 3200-4000 is pretty normal without overclocking depending on rom/kernel/phone/battery level and temperature.. Two identical phones with the same set up will get different scores. Some mods/tweaks can increase this as well as having a good amount of free ram and no other programs running.
But these are just "fun" tests and not a true assessment of real performance..
With that said, Carbon rom is SOOOO much faster..

Ofcourse But as you've said.. It's fun to test out different combinations and it also feels good when you out do the first score for 1000 points and make your phone as good as some more expensive phone ^^

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Ofcourse But as you've said.. It's fun to test out different combinations and it also feels good when you out do the first score for 1000 points and make your phone as good as some more expensive phone ^^
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Agreed... And it is fun mopping the floor with slow ROMs (joking)...
This was set at only 800 mhz
Consider yourselves challenged..
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Why your 3D scores under 2k?
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Why your 3D scores under 2k?
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No matter what rom I've tried, I don't get much over 2k on 3d.. this test I was just a bit under, but still damn good for a Nexus S.. I saw you are trying to improve the graphics in your rom, I hope it works, but I really want a faster load time on apps and less lag in everything else. I have tried your rom, on this test as well, and you came up over 500 points below my score of 5300. I test all roms the same with multiple kernels (stock included as well) and different schedulers/ governors.. but as battery life goes you are towards the top..