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[Q] How do I know if I am perm root or temp rooted

I stalled visionary from akaskriller.com since it wasnt on the market. I installed rom manger, titanium back up. Uinstalled some bloatware etc... But how do I know if im temp or perm rooted?????

Uncheck "run on boot" option in Visionary, pull your battery, restart the phone and try running su in terminal emulator. If you get permission denied - you're temp rooted.

Ok km going to try it now
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Hey, is your root ok? Can you help me root mine.
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I guess im still temp rooted I diff what u said and when I booted up it went straight to visionary and rooted it again so I guess I'll start over
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The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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cal3thousand said:
Manual method is soooooo easy I don't understand the desire to use VISIONary+ for permroot. Its not even real permanent root.
S-OFF is NEEDED for custom ROMs... so if you don't want to use custom ROMS, stick with temproot with VISIONary+
If you DO want custom ROMS and true R/W access, do the manual method. I see 0 point in using the one click permroot.
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Jmayes1786 said:
The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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it does not turn s-off you will have to do that youre self through terminal or adb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225

So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?

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So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?
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Not really, you have have s=off and not be rooted. all s=off means is the security protocol will not check to see if the phone has been tampered with. IF you have s=off and you go to visionary and click "temp toot" then "perm root" your phone will be rooted until you unroot it. Since the security protocol will not remove the SU access.

I need some help!!!!!! What do I do?

So I rooted my mytouch 4g a few days ago with the s=off s=on thread
And some my 4g stopped working and the phone has been acring weird
And its still s=off but the superusers thing is missing and it wont
Let me get su in te so can anyonr please help me and
It says im rooted soooo someone please help

Re-root with same steps you did at first.
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Do I det the file off my sd card. I have tryed with out det and it said I was already
Rooted?

are you still running stock rom? if so download rom manager from the market, install clockworkmod and flash a cutom rom. if its going to be a froyo (2.2) rom download and flash clockwork 3.0.0.5, if it's going to be a gingerbread rom (2.3) download 2.5.x.x or follow a guide to install 3.0.0.6. root doesn't play nice with stock rom that's why usually when you root you flash a custom rom fairly quickly afterwards.
Hope this helped
Nic

You can also get superuser off the market.
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codyphillips90 said:
So I rooted my mytouch 4g a few days ago with the s=off s=on thread
And some my 4g stopped working and the phone has been acring weird
And its still s=off but the superusers thing is missing and it wont
Let me get su in te so can anyonr please help me and
It says im rooted soooo someone please help
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I assume you're using visionary to temp root and permanent root. if root doesn't stick the first time, keep hitting temp root and then permanent root in visionary. Try that. I can tell you brief step by step to get ultimate permanent root and sim unlock but you might go crazy just by reading lol.

Just go get superuser out of the market again. Then you will be able to su in terminal emulater again.
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Can i install the new gingerbread leaked rom without being rooted??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059247
That's the link to the thread to the leaked rom. I was wondering if I have to be rooted to install and if not how do I install it?? Many thanks.

You have to be rooted because you have to be able to get into recovery to wipe everything before flashing, none of which is possible without root. although in all the root guides it states that it's difficult blah blah blah it really isn't. I rooted with gfree and visionary.
download gfree and visionary
temproot using visionary
unzip the gfree files (androzip) to data/local/ (you must have a root explorer)
after you've done that go into terminal emulator (free from market)
type su to gain superuser permissions
Type "cd data/local/"
then hit enter and type: "chmod 777 gfree"
Then after that type in "./gfree -f"
All of which you leave out quotation marks then reboot. after that go to visionary and check set system R/W and hit "attempt permroot now"
This is essentially the stickied thread in the development section just without the warning signs everywhere although you MUST be careful and if you don't understand any of it feel free to ask a question. Welcome to the forums by the way
Basic Disclaimer: I'm in no way responsible for you getting fired because your phone crapped out and your alarm didn't go off or you are now a proud owner of a brick due to not following my directions.

You need to get rooted
S-off your phone.
Root your phone.
And then get your phone engnieering bootloader (0.85.2007)---strongly recommended.

Isn't this a 2.2 mysense(froyo) rom? So basically is stock. Why wouldn't it be able to be flashed through the stock 2.2 mysense(froyo) recovery? Just wondering.
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Because the one that's being distributed by faux has root and well honestly I don't know about the leak...you could try naming it Update.zip and putting on root of sdcard then booting into stock recovery. If that doesn't work keep it named what it was when downloaded then try. But I must ask why don't you just root?
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serapisjay said:
S-off your phone.
Root your phone.
And then get your phone engnieering bootloader (0.85.2007)---strongly recommended.
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S-off and root are essentially hand in hand now.
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You do not need to have s-off. Look in the dev section and there is a thread with a link to the Rom to flash through hboot.
You will only need to rename the file and copy it to the root of your SD card. Reboot your phone into hboot. Profit.
Hope that helps.
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camalus said:
You do not need to have s-off. Look in the dev section and there is a thread with a link to the Rom to flash through hboot.
You will only need to rename the file and copy it to the root of your SD card. Reboot your phone into hboot. Profit.
Hope that helps.
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That's kinda cool..
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camalus said:
You do not need to have s-off. Look in the dev section and there is a thread with a link to the Rom to flash through hboot.
You will only need to rename the file and copy it to the root of your SD card. Reboot your phone into hboot. Profit.
Hope that helps.
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Rename it to what? I tried update.zip didn't seem to work (I am on stock MT4G)
to clarify it says "invalid operation"

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Rename it to what? I tried update.zip didn't seem to work (I am on stock MT4G)
to clarify it says "invalid operation"
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im pretty sure rename to PD15IMG.zip. i believe its the only way the bootloader will read it. i might be wrong.

coupetastic-droid said:
im pretty sure rename to PD15IMG.zip. i believe its the only way the bootloader will read it. i might be wrong.
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I thought PD15IMG.ZIP only flashed new radio bootloader and recovery?
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Perm Root not working

I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.

Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.

Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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dynamicj said:
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.

Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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dynamicj said:
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.

Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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dynamicj said:
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.

You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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dynamicj said:
I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.

Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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dynamicj said:
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?

I have tried them all
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dynamicj said:
I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?

Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.

The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".

I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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[Q] Can't Get S-Off With Gfree. Can Anyone Help??

I followed the steps to set the security flag to 'S-Off' and I know everything went successful on the terminal but when I go into Hboot it still shows 'S-On'. I'm on 0.86.0000 and I'm perma-rooted with Visionary using stock 2.2.1 build of Froyo. I rooted the device earlier this year with no problem and 'S-Off' worked, too, but I had to give device to Mom, so I unrooted it and switched back to 'S-On'. When I got it back, I re-rooted but now I can't get gfree to switch back to S-Off even after I followed those steps exactly as written. Can someone help??
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The best solution that I know of is to factory reset with pd15img. There are some cases where for some reason s won't become off. And after a factory reset it should work fine
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Have you tried the root.sh method. It gives s-off also, but you do it on the phone instead. Make sure you have 2.2.1 an use androzip to unzip the file.
From my fist to your face, enjoy!

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide