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[Q] How do I know if I am perm root or temp rooted

I stalled visionary from akaskriller.com since it wasnt on the market. I installed rom manger, titanium back up. Uinstalled some bloatware etc... But how do I know if im temp or perm rooted?????

Uncheck "run on boot" option in Visionary, pull your battery, restart the phone and try running su in terminal emulator. If you get permission denied - you're temp rooted.

Ok km going to try it now
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Hey, is your root ok? Can you help me root mine.
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I guess im still temp rooted I diff what u said and when I booted up it went straight to visionary and rooted it again so I guess I'll start over
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The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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cal3thousand said:
Manual method is soooooo easy I don't understand the desire to use VISIONary+ for permroot. Its not even real permanent root.
S-OFF is NEEDED for custom ROMs... so if you don't want to use custom ROMS, stick with temproot with VISIONary+
If you DO want custom ROMS and true R/W access, do the manual method. I see 0 point in using the one click permroot.
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Jmayes1786 said:
The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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it does not turn s-off you will have to do that youre self through terminal or adb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225

So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?

deezndc said:
So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?
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Not really, you have have s=off and not be rooted. all s=off means is the security protocol will not check to see if the phone has been tampered with. IF you have s=off and you go to visionary and click "temp toot" then "perm root" your phone will be rooted until you unroot it. Since the security protocol will not remove the SU access.

Rooting: Help, can't get passed Step 6

Ok, I'm ready to root my phone and wanted to install CyanogenMod on my MyTouch 4g. I'm following their wiki document (can't post the link here, it won't let me), but can't get passed step #6. When I enter the string "adb push su /sdcard/su", I get "failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard/su' : Permission Denied
I skipped down a few steps and tried the 3rd line, "adb push rage /data/local/tmp/rage", it returned "5 kb/s (5392 bytes in 1.00s)." So that appears to have worked.
Any ideas?

Chicago T said:
Ok, I'm ready to root my phone and wanted to install CyanogenMod on my MyTouch 4g. I'm following their wiki document (can't post the link here, it won't let me), but can't get passed step #6. When I enter the string "adb push su /sdcard/su", I get "failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard/su' : Permission Denied
I skipped down a few steps and tried the 3rd line, "adb push rage /data/local/tmp/rage", it returned "5 kb/s (5392 bytes in 1.00s)." So that appears to have worked.
Any ideas?
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Try using this method
Link to post
If you wish to use the CM method you need to download/install VISIONary, and temp root the phone phone with "set system to r/w" and "run VISIONary.sh" both checked marked. prior to doing anything.
IF the link i supplied earlier i would high suggest looking for the thread called "post your eMMC serial number" in the general section, some information you might want to read.

neidlinger said:
Try using this method
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If you wish to use the CM method you need to download/install VISIONary, and temp root the phone phone with "set system to r/w" and "run VISIONary.sh" both checked marked. prior to doing anything.
IF the link i supplied earlier i would high suggest looking for the thread called "post your eMMC serial number" in the general section, some information you might want to read.
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Thats weird, cuz the CM method states to uninstall VISIONary before continuing. Wow, now I'm really confused!
If I follow the link you posted, will I still be able to install CM?

Chicago T said:
Thats weird, cuz the CM method states to uninstall VISIONary before continuing. Wow, now I'm really confused!
If I follow the link you posted, will I still be able to install CM?
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The link i posted will turn your s-off, so yes you can do what ever you want given you know what your doing.
just a side-note, once your s-off you can flash whatever MyTouch 4G ROM you want. Cyanogen or other.
just make sure to install the Recovery Image. That is where you flash stuff from.
and keep in mind that is a Wikipage, anyone can edit it. Someone may of removed it.
When you see a "permission denied", that means you have a lack of SU access. Visionary will restore that SU access.

Wow, thanks for the info. I think your few posts put all the research i've done into perspective. Just to clarify, when you say "install the recovery image," what exactly do u mean? Is that like running the ClockWorkMod Recovery in ROM Manager?

Chicago T said:
Wow, thanks for the info. I think your few posts put all the research i've done into perspective. Just to clarify, when you say "install the recovery image," what exactly do u mean? Is that like running the ClockWorkMod Recovery in ROM Manager?
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pretty much, you can download Clockwork ROM Manager from the market place and having it "flash the recovery image". Or if you are familiar with ADB you can download the image directly from Koush's website and flash it from the ADB command prompt.

neidlinger said:
pretty much, you can download Clockwork ROM Manager from the market place and having it "flash the recovery image". Or if you are familiar with ADB you can download the image directly from Koush's website and flash it from the ADB command prompt.
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So I followed your link, and managed to get S=OFF, but when I go into ROM Manager or any other root-required app, it tells me I'm not rooted? Do I need to run VISIONary yet again? Man....

Chicago T said:
So I followed your link, and managed to get S=OFF, but when I go into ROM Manager or any other root-required app, it tells me I'm not rooted? Do I need to run VISIONary yet again? Man....
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Yes tap temp root then perm root
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Wait how'd u get the s off which steps I did my old phone n It worked but the new one j got from insurance I can't get s off
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Yes tap temp root then perm root
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Wow, the instructions don't say that! I'm all confused. So I went ahead and did that, then go into ROM Manager, go thru the steps of installing CM7. It confirms my actions, then reboots. Upon bootup, I get the red-triangle. Battery-pull and back to square 2, I think... (since I still have s=off)
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keji13 said:
Wait how'd u get the s off which steps I did my old phone n It worked but the new one j got from insurance I can't get s off
Hi. I used the link/files posted above. It signed to do the trick, but I'm stuck here now, as in, can't get CM loaded...
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keji13 said:
Wait how'd u get the s off which steps I did my old phone n It worked but the new one j got from insurance I can't get s off
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Some phones are tricky and wont root with the same methods. If you are daring you may try gfree method, but again like above read the emmc serial thread to gain perspective on whats happening with supposedly inferior emmc chips.

Ok ill look into that cause I tried this method didn't work was gonna try adb method Idk to much bout gfree
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Try the video tutorial on the unlockr.com. It showed me the Visionary step (which is the most effective way and better) and how to s-off.
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Ok, I'll give that a try. I've been trying to install a custom rom on my phone for over a month now! Man...
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Chicago T said:
Ok, I'll give that a try. I've been trying to install a custom rom on my phone for over a month now! Man...
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Without sounding like a jackwagon. You might want to take a peek into the "post your eMMC serial number" thread under the general section. It's becoming obvious that if you cannot root with the root.sh method your phone might have a bad eMMC. I would highly encourage you to look into that, along with the thread in my signature to get ADB up and running to determine if you have a serial number for a problematic eMMC.
If you do have have a problematic eMMC, i wouldn't perma root it or flash a new ROM.

neidlinger said:
Without sounding like a jackwagon. You might want to take a peek into the "post your eMMC serial number" thread under the general section. It's becoming obvious that if you cannot root with the root.sh method your phone might have a bad eMMC. I would highly encourage you to look into that, along with the thread in my signature to get ADB up and running to determine if you have a serial number for a problematic eMMC.
If you do have have a problematic eMMC, i wouldn't perma root it or flash a new ROM.
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Hahhaha, "sounding like a jackwagon!" that was funny. I'll check it out, thanks for all your help...

I have yet...
to figure out how to root my MyTouch 4g, nothing seems to work!

To All Those That Helped...
I was finally able to root my phone and start installing custom roms. In fact, I think I've turned into a ROM-Whore.
What I think did it, someone previous wrote, there seems to be a delay with the cache partition on the MT4Gs. So after I got S=off, I didn't immediately try and run Visionary again. Instead, I waited several hours (not by choice, something came up). When I attempted after that, whallla!
I've since been wiping and flashing, wow.
Now if I can get Swype to install.... LOL

I had trouble getting s-off with the unlockr,adb,wiki,z4root,newer visionary guides. Just gave up last night after that, he next morning did another search and found this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995549
I had s-off in like 2 minutes... smh
THANK YOU HTC for finally realizing this shyt is a headache and unlocking your future phones /rant

Perm Root not working

I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.

Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.

Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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dynamicj said:
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.

Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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dynamicj said:
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.

Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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dynamicj said:
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.

You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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dynamicj said:
I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.

Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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dynamicj said:
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?

I have tried them all
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dynamicj said:
I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?

Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.

The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".

I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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Unrooting

Noob question, I rooted my phone through theunlockr.com (don't ask why >.<) then I used the gfree method to gain perm root. I want to unrooted my phone (s=on) so I can redo the root using a method from xda. Also so I can easily go back to stock if HTC decides to release an official ics for us
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jordeeeezy said:
Noob question, I rooted my phone through theunlockr.com (don't ask why >.<) then I used the gfree method to gain perm root. I want to unrooted my phone (s=on) so I can redo the root using a method from xda. Also so I can easily go back to stock if HTC decides to release an official ics for us
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The method you saw on TheUnlockr is the same that is posted here. So unrooting so you can re-root is a void point.
And if you need to unroot just
Taken from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9551846&postcount=1
Procedure to revert
1. Rename the part7backup file that you already have to something just so you know that it is the original backup.
2. Open up terminal emulator or adb shell and type "su" + enter to get root privileges.
3. Type "cd /data/local" and hit enter.
4. Now type "./gfree -f" + enter to run gfree again. It will disable wp on the emmc and remove the brq filter in the kernel. (as well as make another backup, which you can delete if you wish)
5. Now run the "dd if=/where/your/part7backup-numbers.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7" and it should show the output:
xxxx bytes in
xxxxbytes out
xxxxxxxxxx copied in blah blah blah
6. Run "sync" and then reboot. (I didn't do this and it worked fine but it won't hurt either. )
If you have the engineering hboot 0.85.2007 installed you will still be showing s=off when you do the above revert steps. Follow these steps to reflash the stock hboot and turn s=on:
Download this file and unzip it to /sdcard on your device.
unroot.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?12oi5elu7v2y8og
md5sum: aad4e64126cf8d92d7e8b5abb48fdadd
Terminal Emulator Method
1. Open up terminal editor on your device.(I prefer this method b/c you can see the output.)
a. Type "su" + enter to gain root privileges.
b. Type "cd /sdcard/unroot" + enter.
c. Type "sh unroot.sh" + enter.
d. Follow the onscreen prompts.
File Explorer Method
2. Open root explorer, sufbs, or some other file browser with root access.
a. Navigate to /sdcard/unroot.
b. Click on unroot.sh and allow it to run. Some file browsers ask permission before they execute scripts.
c. Wait 18 to 20 seconds and reboot your phone into the bootloader to check if S=on.
You now have S=ON again.
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neidlinger said:
The method you saw on TheUnlockr is the same that is posted here. So unrooting so you can re-root is a void point.
And if you need to unroot just
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one thing i forgot to say, i accidentally deleted the part7backup..

jordeeeezy said:
one thing i forgot to say, i accidentally deleted the part7backup..
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Yea.... you're premarooted forever.

You can turn back S-ON though, if that's what you're looking for, by running gfree with correct switches. But for what - I don't get it.

Jack_R1 said:
You can turn back S-ON though, if that's what you're looking for, by running gfree with correct switches. But for what - I don't get it.
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Like I said in my op, in case HTC decides to release an official ics update, I might want to try it. idk, haha. I just get bored easily and like to have a different os. I've flashed cm7 with ics theme, virtuous doubleshot, and now I'm on official miui. Excited for feb's official releads of ics tho, possibly that will do.. I mean roms DO have better battery life than factory os
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You can flash official OS without unrooting or S-OFF. You don't need any prerequisites for that.
On the contrary, if you want to keep your phone rootable - it's highly recommended to keep it S-OFF, no matter what you flash.

Riiight, download the official zip and flash through clockwork.. Touché sir, well played
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jordeeeezy said:
Riiight, download the official zip and flash through clockwork.. Touché sir, well played
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Nope you've got it wrong. the any official ROM cannot be flashed though CWRI. It needs to be flashed via the hBoot screen.
And as Jack mentioned i would i highly suggest just keeping it s-off, if T-Mobile or HTC releases a ICS ROM for this device our awesome devs will make sure it's a root baked OS that is flash-able. They've done it with every other official OS that's been released.

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Nope you've got it wrong. the any official ROM cannot be flashed though CWRI. It needs to be flashed via the hBoot screen.
And as Jack mentioned i would i highly suggest just keeping it s-off, if T-Mobile or HTC releases a ICS ROM for this device our awesome devs will make sure it's a root baked OS that is flash-able. They've done it with every other official OS that's been released.
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Even still you could still update with s-off it just makes you lose root..
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Nope you've got it wrong. the any official ROM cannot be flashed though CWRI. It needs to be flashed via the hBoot screen.
And as Jack mentioned i would i highly suggest just keeping it s-off, if T-Mobile or HTC releases a ICS ROM for this device our awesome devs will make sure it's a root baked OS that is flash-able. They've done it with every other official OS that's been released.
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I mean hboot, yeah just gotta wait then. Thanks for all you help guys
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[Q] help with pd15img

hi, want help with pd15img update file. the question is which file i should download from here http://www.4shared.com/folder/xDsyJF52/_online.html
im pretty confused , which is the best??

well Im assuming that youre rooted since youre wanting to flash the PD15IMG...but what exactly are you trying to do? downgrade, return to stock Froyo, flash stock Gingerbread? would you like to retain root while flashing PD15IMG? you gotta help us out before we start helping you dude

aznprodgy said:
well Im assuming that youre rooted since youre wanting to flash the PD15IMG...but what exactly are you trying to do? downgrade, return to stock Froyo, flash stock Gingerbread? would you like to retain root while flashing PD15IMG? you gotta help us out before we start helping you dude
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well Im assuming that youre rooted since youre wanting to flash the PD15IMG...but what exactly are you trying to do? downgrade, return to stock Froyo, flash stock Gingerbread? would you like to retain root while flashing PD15IMG? you gotta help us out before we start helping you dude
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i just want to upgrade to gingerbread, im not rooted.

ok well if you just want to upgrade to Gingerbread with stock MySense and not root your device, download the file PD15IMG (2.3.4 new). Put it on your SD card and name it PD15IMG.zip(without the .zip), then boot into fastboot by turning the phone off, then hold vol down + power button to turn the phone on into the bootloader. it should automatically recognize the file and then prompt you if you would like to update or not

I'm rooted, so only curious.. could you do the same thing to upgrade to ICS?
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benjamn said:
I'm rooted, so only curious.. could you do the same thing to upgrade to ICS?
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nah, theres no ICS update for the Glacier because of the stupid MySense more than likely

I wanna unroot do I just put the froyo pdm15img or watever its called in SD card then in bootloader ?
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alexriio said:
I wanna unroot do I just put the froyo pdm15img or watever its called in SD card then in bootloader ?
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depends on which way you rooted your phone and what radio you are on
gfree- follow the method in the thread to unroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
visionary- make sure you are on the stock radio, then yes put the Froyo PD15IMG file on the root of your SD card then reboot into the bootloader. doing this will also put you back on stock MySense

aznprodgy said:
ok well if you just want to upgrade to Gingerbread with stock MySense and not root your device, download the file PD15IMG (2.3.4 new). Put it on your SD card and name it PD15IMG.zip(without the .zip), then boot into fastboot by turning the phone off, then hold vol down + power button to turn the phone on into the bootloader. it should automatically recognize the file and then prompt you if you would like to update or not
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I have downloaded 4 times from 4shared but the file was corrupted and cannot recognize. I have renamed to PD15IMG. Any other link? Thanks

hayati1 said:
I have downloaded 4 times from 4shared but the file was corrupted and cannot recognize. I have renamed to PD15IMG. Any other link? Thanks
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Here ya go..clik thanks if I helped..good luck.
http://www.4shared.com/zip/OrXR0864/PD15IMG_234_.html
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Still same. My phone won't recognize the image file in bootloader. May be I don't have a talent...

Did you rename it PD15IMG.zip and place it on the root of your sd card? It can't be in any folder, and must be PD15IMG.zip and not PD15IMG.zip.zip (sometimes it gets a double zip when you rename it) it not talent..or else Id be screwed!
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jjbadd385 said:
Did you rename it PD15IMG.zip and place it on the root of your sd card? It can't be in any folder, and must be PD15IMG.zip and not PD15IMG.zip.zip (sometimes it gets a double zip when you rename it) it not talent..or else Id be screwed!
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I have android 2.3.4 software 2.32.531.1 with s-off. The phone has a problem with a camera app. I just want to restore without root( scared to try ). I renamed it with PD15IMG without .zip because the file is a zip file. The bootloader saw the folder but then it said no image
Thanks for your advice.
Managed to downgrade to 2.2.1 and s-off. Go to the next level, try to root and flash rom....

Froze during update
Hi friends. My MT4G (not rooted) was freezing on the boot screen (T-Mobile MT4G with white background screen), so I flashed gingerbread 2.3.4 using PD15IMG_Glacier_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.32.531.1_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M_release_227522_signed as it is supposed to be done, and it worked fine. I was already updating my apps when it froze again, so I removed the battery and went back into hboot loader, and asked to update again. It started fine, but froze when updating Bootloader (1st step). I has been there for 3 hours+, and I don't know what to do to exit the updating process, since I can't pull the battery. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.