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[Q] How do I know if I am perm root or temp rooted

I stalled visionary from akaskriller.com since it wasnt on the market. I installed rom manger, titanium back up. Uinstalled some bloatware etc... But how do I know if im temp or perm rooted?????

Uncheck "run on boot" option in Visionary, pull your battery, restart the phone and try running su in terminal emulator. If you get permission denied - you're temp rooted.

Ok km going to try it now
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Hey, is your root ok? Can you help me root mine.
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I guess im still temp rooted I diff what u said and when I booted up it went straight to visionary and rooted it again so I guess I'll start over
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The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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cal3thousand said:
Manual method is soooooo easy I don't understand the desire to use VISIONary+ for permroot. Its not even real permanent root.
S-OFF is NEEDED for custom ROMs... so if you don't want to use custom ROMS, stick with temproot with VISIONary+
If you DO want custom ROMS and true R/W access, do the manual method. I see 0 point in using the one click permroot.
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Jmayes1786 said:
The only thing I can do Is get it to temp root so I don't think I would be much help lol sorry
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it does not turn s-off you will have to do that youre self through terminal or adb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225

So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?

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So if it reads "s-off" on the boot screen after reboot it's perm root?
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Not really, you have have s=off and not be rooted. all s=off means is the security protocol will not check to see if the phone has been tampered with. IF you have s=off and you go to visionary and click "temp toot" then "perm root" your phone will be rooted until you unroot it. Since the security protocol will not remove the SU access.

temp root loop help

when i try to use visionary perm root, it F**ed up my phone...
i get the visionary temp root loops
Tired rage method it didnt work either.
i searched up no real solution there.
(someone said i need to downgrade, but i have S-OFF and cant not get temp root, so its a no go for me)
G2 got OTA already and i can boot .. just cant root!
can someone help my friend please.

Do you have super user installed? And what exactly does visionary do when u try and root it?
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no super user installed
visionary just keep saying rooting please wait or something like that, sometime it just exist itself out and no temp root, sometimes it will stay at that rooting screen for hours, sometimes it went to a black screen which i have to take the battery out.
tried factory reset in fastboot, no luck either.
only thing i have there is S-OFF...

note : i can temp root before i tried to perm root with visinoary r14

Look at your running apps (in the manage application menu) kill everything that isn't stock. I was having the same problem, and when most people weren't complaining, thought an app of mine might be causing a conflict. And it worked for me, so try it out.
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qqyycchh said:
no super user installed
visionary just keep saying rooting please wait or something like that, sometime it just exist itself out and no temp root, sometimes it will stay at that rooting screen for hours, sometimes it went to a black screen which i have to take the battery out.
tried factory reset in fastboot, no luck either.
only thing i have there is S-OFF...
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so you have S off now? Can you get to recovery? If so download and flash a rocovery image like clockwork. After you get clockwork flashed just download and flash whatever ROM you want. They will all have root for you. If you cant get to recovery do a search for visionary boot loop fix. There was a whole post on the steps needed to fix it.
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clockworks recovery

hi guys does anyone know how to install clockworks recovery on the wildfire 2.2 it is a unrooted phone an i want to do a back up and i cant get in the recovery mode i need help in finding it to dwnload and to instal it on my phone. I have downloaded rom manager and that wont do anything due to superuser not been in the binnay and now im stuck please help me if anyone can

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899892

Did you bother to do any searching??? Root using unrevoked and it installs clockworkmod. but its too late for you as shown above.
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thats y i put on it that its unrooted with 2.2 i know i cant root it yet cos unrevoked havnt done owt yet to get the 2.2 rooted

If you could put Clockworkmod on an unrooted device, I would believe that then, the entire concept of rooting the phone is useless, without any meaning being served.

Perm Root not working

I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.

Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.

Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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dynamicj said:
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.

Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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dynamicj said:
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.

Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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dynamicj said:
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.

You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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dynamicj said:
I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.

Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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dynamicj said:
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?

I have tried them all
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dynamicj said:
I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?

Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.

The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".

I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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[Q] Bootloader?

Hey Guys,
So im in a bit of a peculiar situation here, I downgraded my device from Gingerbread to 2.2.1 following the wiki (kudos to whoever did that, thanks a lot!). However, when I got to 2.2.1, it now only mounts my SD card as read only? I have ordered another one to see whether i just got a crappy sd card (Tmo refused to replace it under warranty)... However, I have pushed Visionary and Gfree, in preparation to root this sucker, and have my way with it...but heres the caveat, is that now, when I try to boot into recovery, I get that stinking little phone with a red triangle on it...what does this mean?
Regards
Trevor

That means you don't have a custom recovery installed
Download Rom manager from the market and install the clockworkmod recovery
Edit: until you root the phone my post is useless the custom recovery is for after you root the phone
If you need help rooting the phone mackster248 has a great 2 part video showing you how to root the MT4G on YouTube
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right, so if i am still able to root my thing using gfree then flash custom recovery? So...im not hosed yet?
trev

PS, is there an way to reformat an sd card through ADB, i think it may be read only because of some corrupt sectors, and would like to try to reformat it...does the fdisk utility do this?
regards
trev

rockr4Christ said:
right, so if i am still able to root my thing using gfree then flash custom recovery? So...im not hosed yet?
trev
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Yes follow my instructions and you will be fine
And no your not hosed yet lol
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