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will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
It got an update to a new point release in the first week. As long as it stays one of the only tablets on the market, you can bet Google will be watching it and forcing moto to update it.
After that I dunno, but seeing as how the device is completely hacker friendly, we will have software updates indefinitely.
If you want to ensure that you barely ever get updates, go Samsung.
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will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
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it actually makes more sense to think of it like the OG DROID, even though the offical updates have stopped, the bootloader is unlocked and allows for custom ROMs to be loaded
qwerp_ said:
will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
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Its definitely not the "official" but I think its safe to assume its the unofficial. Google gave Motorola exclusivity to the honeycomb OS which is why its out much sooner then any other honeycomb tablet. This also has stock honeycomb. There is no motoblur/ Sense UI or any user interface built on top of the Honeycomb. So to update it, it definitely will be easier than the tablets that have these UI built on top of the OS.
This is Googles Debut Operating System. This is just Googles Baby as Motorola's and I'm sure they are going to make sure its taken care of.
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It got an update to a new point release in the first week. As long as it stays one of the only tablets on the market, you can bet Google will be watching it and forcing moto to update it.
After that I dunno, but seeing as how the device is completely hacker friendly, we will have software updates indefinitely.
If you want to ensure that you barely ever get updates, go Samsung.
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The Xoom won't be the only Honeycomb tablet in another month.
The Samsung devices are going to be stock Google experience devices as well, and will get updates at the same pace as the Xoom.
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The Xoom won't be the only Honeycomb tablet in another month.
The Samsung devices are going to be stock Google experience devices as well, and will get updates at the same pace as the Xoom.
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yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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Xoom has USB host.
The galaxy tab 10.1 has one port, and its not compatible with anything and its not standard. You have to buy Samsung accessories to make it do basic things like HDMI out.
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yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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I cannot vouch for Samsung, I have never had one of their Android Phones. But I have a Motorola Droid since it first came out, which was a couple Android OS versions ago, and they have been very good at keeping it up to date.
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yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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After having my Xoom with me everywhere I go since launch and using it countless hours a day and still have 40-60% battery life I can't imagine ever needing a different tablet with "better battery life" than the Xoom. The battery has been nothing short of incredible and i have been amazed as i have become accustomed to carrying a spare battery and micro USB everywhere I go since having android phones. I personally will never buy samsung as even if it is guarenteed updates as it is stock that doesn't guarentee that samsung will not make a newerr tablet and leave it behind. They have shown this countless times in the past and motorola has taken care of its other devices (even the milestone finally got froyo the other day and the galaxy s devices here in America are still lacking it) plus getting 4G upgrade and expandable memory makes the Xoom a much better buy than the samsung 10.1 at least in my eyes.
thanks for all the input... still waiting for it to launch in the uk..
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will/is xoom the official developer tablet? some how like the first T-mobile G1?
this concerns me as i plan to get it next month, but if its not going to get regular updates from google, it might stop me from getting it.
as other tablets like samsung and LG has better looks and feel from different aspect.
my main concern is i would like to get latest updates from google.
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Google will be giving out Xooms to devs attending I/O this year, which is a good sign that Google does intend it to be a dev platform.
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Google will be giving out Xooms to devs attending I/O this year, which is a good sign that Google does intend it to be a dev platform.
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its a good point. but i remembered that google gave out the htc EVO as well last year..
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yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is TFT... Viewing angles aren't as good as the Xoom's from what I've read. Where are you reading better battery life? Isn't the Galaxy Tab 10.1 the same Tegra 2 processor? Only way it'd be better is if they packed a massive battery in it, but if it's as thin as they're saying, doubtful.
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its a good point. but i remembered that google gave out the htc EVO as well last year..
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I thought they gave out the Nexus One last year?
qwerp_ said:
yes, that is exactly my concern, as samsung is producing the tab with stock honeycomb as well..
although samsung has less features than the xoom, its got a better battery life, and i am hoping a good screen as well, maybe super amoled plus.. and USB host feature and usb charging which is lacking from the xoom?
too bad samsung tab will not have HDMI, which is also another killer..
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The Tab will probably be cheaper, but from all indications doesn't have HDMI out, or an SDcard slot. The battery is probably going to be a bit larger though for sure. Somewhere in the 6900mAh area.
The screen is expected to be about the same as the Xoom's, but I doubt they'd ever do SuperAmoled+ on a 10" if they're looking to hit the $499 price point.
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I thought they gave out the Nexus One last year?
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http://www.androidtapp.com/google-gives-htc-evos-to-all-google-io-2010-attendees/
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The battery is probably going to be a bit larger though for sure. Somewhere in the 6900mAh area.
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Yeah, from that 11 minute video from AndroidHD, here are some basic specs they gave out on the 10" tab.
- 6860mAh
- 599g
- 246.2 x 170.4 x 10.9 (mm)
- Sorry OP for going more off topic. /threadjack
Can't wait for my xoom to ship (Amazon).
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Yeah, from that 11 minute video from AndroidHD, here are some basic specs they gave out on the 10" tab.
- 6860mAh
- 599g
- 246.2 x 170.4 x 10.9 (mm)
- Sorry OP for going more off topic. /threadjack
Can't wait for my xoom to ship (Amazon).
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should be said I'll save people the google. 599 grams is 1.3lbs. The Samsung one seems to have more plastic than the Xoom to cut weight.
And the Xoom's battery is 6500mAh I think? So 6860mAh isn't too much bigger. And the Xoom's battery life is already great.
Yes it'll be like the nexus one for tablets which is a sign of many good things to come
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Yes it'll be like the nexus one for tablets which is a sign of many good things to come
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If it was like the nexus then why don't they sell the xoom on Google's site
samsung just announced that both of their tab will be released on early SUMMER n june 8 means i have to wait till june for buying anyone?
i m fed up of waiting, so i 'd like to ask xoom users, are xoom worth to buy? wat is it's bad?
If you have decided on buy an Android tablet, I don't see any reason why Galaxy tab's will be better than Xoom...
I can't see any negative to Xoom when you compare Galaxy tabs, but there are a few benefits,
Xoom comes with vanilla honeycomb which is million times better than any other 'skins'. Also you will get updates much faster and don't have to wait for Samsung to port it.
Look wise I like the Xoom..
I read an article yesterday that stated samsung is using a custom honeycomb UI so I lost interest immediately when I read that. I enjoy my xoom and I will stick with it at this point. I have also read that it feels like cheap plastic, which is another huge drawback in my opinion. To me a better screen isn't worth molested android, especially a version that is not only buggy and incomplete, but also total revamp of the whole UI, I foresee samsung screwing it up with a laggy interface as usual.
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The thread should be merged with this one. Maybe you'll find more inspiration there.
btw, last time i watched a review and it said that "the marketplace need an update to view all apps". does the marketplace updated now n can view all of the apps?
I would go with the Google Experience device. Chances are you will receive updates more frequently on the Xoom than the Galaxy 10.1. Plus TouchWiz is on this thing according to Engadget. Not sure I would want that screwing up my Honeycomb greatness!
does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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It is quite heavy. different people have different tolerences though. It will be about .30lbs heavier than the 10.1 galaxy tab.
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does xoom really very heavy? some user complained about it's weight in galaxy tab forum.. isit true?
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Well any tablet when held long enough will feel heavy. Depends on how comfortable you are holding the tablet and how strong your arms and wrists and fingers are haha..
Perhaps you can try holding a book of similar weight and see if you can stand it.
thx for everyone =)
but i just read about ppl said xoom will be sstop producing on june.
will this cause it lacks of accessories n software update in the future? is this true?
I read that the TouchWiz 4.0 is not deeply integrated into the Honeycomb (find the CNET article about this).
They are just bunch of apps and widgets. Even the 10.1 will be launched first as stock, which users can (or forced) to download the TouchWiz 4.0 via update.
I am not too worried with this TouchWiz thing, because XDA devs will root and we will be able to install custom ROM "anyway" Unless the bootloader is LOCKED and encrypted (like Motorola phones), history said Samsung has never done that.
So, I am now OK with this TouchWiz. From what I look in the hands-on video, it is still Honeycomb.
And also, living in Europe, Samsung gave updates to their phones here
So yeah, pretty much covered about the update.
I really like the hardware profile of this Samsung 8.9"
- Lighter at 470 gram versus 725 gram of Xoom.
- Thinner at 8.6"
- especially the PLS screen which is even better than the IPS of iPad2, no contest with Xoom in this area.
i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(
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i heard that there's issue that xoom cant read sdcard? isit true? =(
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just answered your other thread, yes, the SDcard doesn't work yet on the Xoom.
weight of xoom
im pretty sure that metal weighs more than plastic, so as far as how heavy it is....
i mean, c'mon..think outside the box people.
btw..my xoom is freakin awesome, and had a apple guy convert from ipad to xoom this past week. freakin sweet.
If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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^ These words are true.
Kcarpenter said:
If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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True...two companies I really REALLY dislike and that's samsung and Sony, over the years they have royally screwed me over, Samsung stop caring as soon as you hand over the cash and Sony screw you once they have your cash
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I love my xoom, and don't think i'd get any other HC tablet right now. I will say, I do like 8.9" and my only hardward wish with the xoom is for it be lighter and thinner.
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If you considering the Samsung, you obviously don't own a Galaxy phone. If you did you would not even think about it.
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My thoughts exactly.
The history of Samsung updating their products is enough for me to say no thank you to any Android device they make. The only time I would consider is something like the Nexus S - stock Android with no Sense/Blur/Touchwiz and gets updates first.
Furthermore, am I the only one that cringes a little when you see/hear/read the word "Touchwiz"? Sounds like Touchjizz to me. Just sounds like a really cheesy name for a skin.
I honestly don't understand what everyone is up in arms about the weight of the Xoom is. Either get a dock or portfolio that can prop it up or lift some weights. Like 2 lb weights because the friggin Xoom weighs even less than that!
Sure, anything gets heavy after a while. But I have yet to run into a situation where I'm fatigued from messing with the Xoom. Honestly, the weight difference between any tablets shouldn't be an issue, unless it's half/double the weight of something (or something else extreme). I like the way the back feels. Sometimes it seems like people just want to find something else to criticize.
hi everyone , ive just bought my motorola xoom mz604 , and i think its awesome because android honeycomb is really good OS, it is fast and smooth
but iam having some problems with installing apps, and i realized that most of them aren't compitable with the xoom, like the android games hawx, assassins creed and modern combat 2...
anyways i just wanted to know the adv and dis-adv of my device from an expert
thnx =)
sorry for my bad english
Answering the question in your title, the xoom IS good... very good, in fact. Sure there are a few apps here and there that do not work, but for the most part, everything runs fine. Additionally, the new scaling option in 3.2 ensures that more apps are functional. I simply love the beauty and elegance of honeycomb, and I still find the xoom to be my preferred method to obtain the honeycomb experience. Plus, being Google's reference HC device, we get all of the updates first.
I like it
3.1/3.2 is brill for emulators too when you connect up a ps3 controller via usb!
Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
Ummmm. Its the "google dev" device. With that said...
Moto is a horrible company
The xoom 3g has turned into the last tab to recieve updates
Still no promised 4g
Sd support is only soso...
I would recommend a samsung device...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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I couldn't disagree more, but to each his own...
I'm plenty happy with mine, just a wifi though and no cell network model. That, honestly, is probably the issue with slow updates just like it is for my epic: the company that runs the network it's attached to wants to manage its stuff (aka install crap and extra 'features') and is slowing down the process. Sprint is HORRIBLE with this.
As for why I chose the xoom over others - part of it was price, it was the $400 32gb wifi model off woot.com. Second was that it has actual ports on it (micro-usb, mini-hdmi, etc) and not some proprietary jack *cough*galaxytab*cough* that you need to hook up some dorky dongle to in order to get a usb port.
I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
I have to root this thing to get that basic feature. I think they still haven't figured out the issue that devs figured out. Other than that I like it and apps are slowly starting to catch up.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Plus no sd slot and only one port
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Fair Enough. Touchwiz might be able to be disabled when it comes out but maybe not. The xoom comes with a bit of crapware itself, dungeon defender and cordy are the ones that come to mind though there may be more.
It would not be worth the cost to me but to each his own. You could probably find a xoom owner who is fed up with Motorola enough to do a trade.
xoom
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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I hope it's good Mine should be here tomorrow
I just exchanged the tab must say i like the xoom better and i already have a spare 16gb sd
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I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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I second that
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4g is coming in sept. Per verizon
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Good, solid hardware.
Mine was rooted 5 minutes out of the box, so I have had SD R/W since day one.
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I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
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I had to fiddle around with the formatting in order to make it work, but I know the problem you had and eventually got around it. Try ntfs, fat, or whatever - just mess around with it in your computer until you find one that it likes. I forget offhand what made mine happy.
So NewEgg has a deal on the Galaxy tab currently (30 dollars off plus 50 dollar gift card) and was wondering if it is still something worth buying. Considering the progress made with HC as is, I can only expect it to get better if/when Google releases source.
For the price, is it still something you would buy today?
I just bought mine a couple of weeks ago and have no complaints. It gets used way more than my Asus Transformer does. I love the 7" screen, perfect size for me.
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I just bought mine a couple of weeks ago and have no complaints. It gets used way more than my Asus Transformer does. I love the 7" screen, perfect size for me.
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Was looking at the transformer too. May I ask why? Is it too big?
Exactly. Try reading a book with a 10" device always seem to need two hands. Typing with both thumbs on the Tab vs finger pecking on the transformer. The size of the 7" is perfect for me.
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So NewEgg has a deal on the Galaxy tab currently (30 dollars off plus 50 dollar gift card) and was wondering if it is still something worth buying. Considering the progress made with HC as is, I can only expect it to get better if/when Google releases source.
For the price, is it still something you would buy today?
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I'm still looking to get one. Which version is on sale?
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its worth buying if you can get a deal.
As mentioned above 7" is a major bonus. By implication though it means you really want 3G as well. When I was contracting (and hence moving around, taking a lot of different public transport routes etc.) it was an awesome travel companion. It also makes it a great ereader in a pinch.
Custom ROM it and performance is pretty good, esp. as Samsung's browser is hardware accelerated.
If its going to be sitting on your coffee table w/ wifi though, or the price is comparable to a 'current' honeycomb Tegra 2 10" slab, I'd go honeycomb/dual core. There's not much of an upgrade path for it, honeycomb is going to be an unofficial port (if at all?)
I got mine at a knockdown price and really like it. However I still wouldn't have paid RRP for it (by the same token I'm not paying RRP for transformer etc. or even ipad so duh)
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its worth buying if you can get a deal.
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Agreed... pretty easy to find on ebay or CL for $250 or less... picking up another one tomorrow for $200... Almost as good a deal as the HP TP and a lot more clarity about its future, apps, upgradability, etc.
It's still a great device. Is it the newest and latest? Nope. Will it run tons of great apps and be a solid performer for most of your uses? Sure! Now is also the time to snap up cheap discounted cases and other accessories for the 7".
I flashed the Overcome ROM on mine after I was tired of waiting on T-Mobile for the 2.3 update. That's a great ROM. Super battery life, video calling (with FFC working great) via Google Talk, excellent ebook reader, calls over Google Voice with Groove IP, etc etc.
I say this even though I also have the Galaxy 10.1. That's for lazy home use. I can take the 7" with me just about everywhere.
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I say this even though I also have the Galaxy 10.1. That's for lazy home use. I can take the 7" with me just about everywhere.
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funny, I have the same mindset/usage pattern between my Galaxy Tab and my iPad...
I been hearing great things about the SGS2 so I set aside the cash for it and yesterday went to get it but came back without making the purchase.
When I held it in my hands I just couldnt figure out how the puny screen could be any better than my SGT. Battery life is similar, I can run similar or same applications and both can do depending on what I install from the market. With the custom ROMs my SGT OS is probably higher version, less buggy and smoother than what I would get on the SGS2. Yea there might be some new high tech capabilities but do I need it. Most likely not and at this time don't even know what they are.
So I gave up the idea of going smaller than the 7". Quite a while back I kicked the idea of going bigger than 7". I can still put my SGT in my back pocket or my jacket breast pocket and cary it with me anywhere. Try doing that with anything biger than 7".
For me there is absolutely no good reason to go for anything else for a while.
Yep, still worth buying.
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Got mine yesterday for $180.00. Its a Verizon model but with no contract. I've already rooted it and currently looking for a good custom rom
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Got mine yesterday for $180.00. Its a Verizon model but with no contract. I've already rooted it and currently looking for a good custom rom
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New or used?
I'm looking at buying another used one for $200CDN for my GF. She prefers the Galaxy Tab over the Transformer as well.
I'm thinking about buying 3 of these for the office because of the portability. It would make a great tool for our QC department.
Definitely worth buying. Look at my signature of what I have had and look at which tab is still standing. The 7" form factor is the best. Not to mention this thing plays any video I've thrown at it. Such was not the case for the others tabs.
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New or used?
I'm looking at buying another used one for $200CDN for my GF. She prefers the Galaxy Tab over the Transformer as well.
I'm thinking about buying 3 of these for the office because of the portability. It would make a great tool for our QC department.
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Floor model from Brandsmart.
It seems that we are all thinking the same.
Its great product, and still worth of buying if you can find it for the right price.
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Got mine yesterday for $180.00. Its a Verizon model but with no contract. I've already rooted it and currently looking for a good custom rom
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you cant go wrong with the latest release from Overcome Team. I cant think of any further improvements they could come up with but I am quite sure they will.
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you cant go wrong with the latest release from Overcome Team. I cant think of any further improvements they could come up with but I am quite sure they will.
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Isn't this rom for gsm only tablets?
Yup
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Or it can be bought from me.
Shameless plug for my thread in the marketplace.
I'm looking for a tablet and I see three xooms near me. One of them for $400 new, another $350 used and one for $300 used. Need advice.
DevilStrider said:
I'm looking for a tablet and I see three xooms near me. One of them for $400 new, another $350 used and one for $300 used. Need advice.
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Maybe if you prvide your location you will get better help? There was a special in Sydney yesterday for brand new Xoom for 298 AUD. If you are happy to wait I am sure by January next year all the tablets will come down in price.
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I was looking at the prime but i really don't want to spend $500. But I want ICS and there is no sure fire proof it will officially come to the xoom.
DevilStrider said:
I was looking at the prime but i really don't want to spend $500. But I want ICS and there is no sure fire proof it will officially come to the xoom.
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JBQ stated that it is coming to the Xoom soon. Motorola stated that it's coming to the Xoom, but no time frame given.
It's coming; we just don't know when. I estimate Late Jan - Mid February.
The latest AOSP release included files for the Xoom, just give it a week and it will be in here...
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I got dude that wanted $400 to drop it to $350 but I would rather pay $300 tops.
Keep an Eye on Woot. I picked up 2 wifi only's for $320 a pop in november.
Yeah they trying to get $400 when it's $369 on newegg
Get a Quad Core Transformer instead (I am not Hating, I have a 32GB WiFi Xoom), but GED has held this device back. Still can't Write or Delete the SD Card without a PC, while other Android Tablets have been doing this since the day they came out. Google is Super Slow in allowing us GED Xoom owners Full SD Card Access.
ghodzilla5150 said:
Get a Quad Core Transformer instead (I am not Hating, I have a 32GB WiFi Xoom), but GED has held this device back. Still can't Write or Delete the SD Card without a PC, while other Android Tablets have been doing this since the day they came out. Google is Super Slow in allowing us GED Xoom owners Full SD Card Access.
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*sighs* You can write to your SD card if you were willing to root. I personally bought my Xoom over a transformer, or galaxy tab or what have you because its a GED device. You know why? because I do not want bloat. I dont want touchwiz, I dont want sense, I dont want motoblur or any other modified interface. I wanted pure undiluted android with the lovely added bonus of being virtually unbrickable all while being unlocked.
I did not buy a xoom to remain at stock, I bought it to overclock it, to tweak it, To make the device MY device. As im sure a lot of other xoom owners did. This will probably sound harsh but it's not my intention; If you wanted to remain at stock, which seems obvious from your previous posts in another thread complaining about the very same issue your complaining about here, Then maybe you should have done your research and checked out competing tablets before making your purchase. I find i'm pretty happy with all my purchases because I do huge amounts of research to find the product that is right for me.
The xoom is an amazing device, We have a pretty amazing community here that will help you if need be, Thou I find most everything answered already. The developers we have are great. Team Tiamat for example make a flawless rom/kernel from my experience, limited as it may be. Its still great. I currently have mine with the moray 2.2.2 rom and odachi OC kernel and its extremely smooth, wonderful batterylife.. And relatively amazing. Being a GED device means its basically a developing template. You bought a GED device, because its a GED device and you're not taking advantage of the fact its a GED device. It takes longer to read the instructions on how to root then it does to actually do it. You will be MUCH happier with your purchase if you take advantage of what its capable of. Root it, rom it, kernel it. Do your research before trying, But if you do You will have a more plesant experience. You will be much more happier with your device. I personally used this thread and I can vouch for its accuracy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 if you don't like it. Then simply return it to stock and you're done. There are more benefits to rooting a device Then their are downsides from what I've read.
In response to OP's question. I paid the current price on newegg (370$) and even at that price I am very happy with my purchase. If I could find one for 300-350$ I would buy it in a heartbeat for my parents. Now keep in mind the 370$ price tag is for a RE CERTIFIED xoom, Mine came with stock everything in the box. No problems what so ever. Soo if you were going to pay 350 for a used one, Splurge for the extra 20 to get a re certified product. Its very much worth that price in my honest opinion.
You see, I bought the WiFi Xoom the day it came out because of PROMISES & HYPE. You are partially right. I should have waited for the Transformer (at least I would have a working SD Card Write/Delete from within). I just feel I SHOULD NOT have to go thru the Trouble of Rooting to get what the device should do out of the BOX. That's why GED "WAS" supposed to be so special. To me it isn't.
I feel we were duped and I personally will NEVER get another GED device EVER again. Actually GED is holding back the US Xoom's. A very talented Dev has said as much. If you have ever been on the Moto Community Forums, Gmanapps (who created SDCARDXD) has said as much, and he is VERY Talented and Smart (not to say you are not, I just respect what he has to say on the issue at hand). To me these EXPENSIVE Devices should work out-of-the-box as my Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 does. I got tired of keeping up with Myn's Rom then Synergy. I jut want it to work Stock. There is NOTHING wrong with that, especially after the money we 1st Day Adopters paid for it.
Just my 2 Cents from a VERY Frustrated Consumer. When you Root, things go wrong and something ALWAYS gets FUBAR'd (like No 4G or Camera Not Working). No Thanks.
Ohhh, I can understand why you're so frustrated now. I learnt to always take promises and hypes with a grain of salt. Just because people will say whatever it takes to sale their product. I just about always wait until something has all its bugs and stuff worked out before buying it. So I can very much understand your point now.
I personally will buy a GED device again, but my reasoning is because its unlocked. I very much enjoy hacking things to do more then they should, It extends the life of a product for me. Means I have to replace it less often. Which is a huge plus for me because I can be kinda cheap haha. I originally started my "mobile" carrier, so to speak, with iOS, its the openness of android that attracted me so much. I hate not having control of my devices. So rooting for me, was part of the appeal. No disrespect taken Because I can understand your frustration. The devs on here know alot more then i do haha. Maybe it has held it back, But at the same time in my eyes it's helped because of it being unlocked, it allows for an easier time developing.
Things should work out of the box I will agree with that, they really should. People shouldn't have to create apps to allow a feature thats available on just about anything that includes an SD card. Sometimes things don't thou, and I guess it would be googles fault for it not doing so since updates do come through them. I guess its because the tablet is kinda like the nexus program, Devices with the pure unfiltered android experience. I guess even the flaws of that "unfiltered" experience come through as well. Personally though, I would much rather adapt and find a solution then be unhappy.
If you ever do decide to give rooting/roming (is that what you call it?) a go. Def use the guide i linked earlier for as long as its still valid. The only thing that would suck is backing up your data before the wipe that happens when you unlock.
ghodzilla5150 said:
Just my 2 Cents from a VERY Frustrated Consumer. When you Root, things go wrong and something ALWAYS gets FUBAR'd (like No 4G or Camera Not Working). No Thanks.
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If you follow directions properly, most issues are avoided. And afaik, issues like no 4g or broken camera occur when you apply an unstable rom. Rooting simply gives you full control, that's all.
Vengfulr3ap3r said:
Ohhh, I can understand why you're so frustrated now. I learnt to always take promises and hypes with a grain of salt. Just because people will say whatever it takes to sale their product. I just about always wait until something has all its bugs and stuff worked out before buying it. So I can very much understand your point now.
I personally will buy a GED device again, but my reasoning is because its unlocked. I very much enjoy hacking things to do more then they should, It extends the life of a product for me. Means I have to replace it less often. Which is a huge plus for me because I can be kinda cheap haha. I originally started my "mobile" carrier, so to speak, with iOS, its the openness of android that attracted me so much. I hate not having control of my devices. So rooting for me, was part of the appeal. No disrespect taken Because I can understand your frustration. The devs on here know alot more then i do haha. Maybe it has held it back, But at the same time in my eyes it's helped because of it being unlocked, it allows for an easier time developing.
Things should work out of the box I will agree with that, they really should. People shouldn't have to create apps to allow a feature thats available on just about anything that includes an SD card. Sometimes things don't thou, and I guess it would be googles fault for it not doing so since updates do come through them. I guess its because the tablet is kinda like the nexus program, Devices with the pure unfiltered android experience. I guess even the flaws of that "unfiltered" experience come through as well. Personally though, I would much rather adapt and find a solution then be unhappy.
If you ever do decide to give rooting/roming (is that what you call it?) a go. Def use the guide i linked earlier for as long as its still valid. The only thing that would suck is backing up your data before the wipe that happens when you unlock.
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You are a cool dude, Thanks for the help. I have Rooted before. My OG EVO had Myn's Warm 2.2 , then Synergy. So I am NOT a Noob to Rooting. I just don't feel like following the ROM to Death like before. It gets old. I guess I will just have to wait until Google gets off it's LAZY ASS and gives us ICS. HC works fine and as for me, the Playbook and Galaxy Player are all I need for now. I have no more need for tablets and what I have will suffice for a long time.
I personally thing if u find a xoom has better spec. then another 10' tablet. it has 4g, duel core, and used ranged from 300 dollar. Samsung makes good tablet but right now still not really match xoom in price range. Samung tablet plus price is like more then xoom. xoom is close or less then this tablet. Only think i would consider is the old samsung tab 7 inch. becasue:
Samsung tab 7" ( old )
1 core, 2gb + sd slot. 3g around 200-250 ( i got one on ebay 198)
Xoom
2 core 32 GB +sd slot 4G around 300-340 ( i got one on ebay. 310)
for 50-60 dollars more u get 4g and bigger screen and 1 core. Hope you understand.
its got the longest battery life among current tablets and its the only one that does dualband. I have no interest in buying a non GED device. I want to decide on my overlay and I want the first updates. Google's updates are far more featurefilled than anything Asus will offer you in their overlay, so picking a non GED product makes no sense for me. Ill get a new one either after nvidias next Gen processor comes out in a year or if Samsung makes something with that awesome flexible display concept design they made (YouTube the commercial, coolest thing I've ever seen). The tegra 2 is not yet outdated. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, though
i paid 240 for my xoom :]
got it used on craigslist
Just picked one up as well. 32gig Wifi for $300. Buyer also included dock and case. Cant complain about that. Now.. on to root
I wouldnt personally buy a xoom when the transformer prime is around the corner...
Kippui said:
I wouldnt personally buy a xoom when the transformer prime is around the corner...
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I bought a 4G LTE XOOM, knowing the Prime was around the corner... Mostly because I needed a tablet with its own dedicated data connection... Verizon has the best network and didn't want the Galaxy Tab or Xyboard. TP isn't coming out with mobile radios, so had to rule it out.