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Bye, Tab...Hi, Xoom

Got it!!
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This form factor is perfect and actually portable. The screen size being 10.1 seemed big reading about it, but after holding it, it's perfect. It doesn't seem as big as the iPad due to the widescreen shape. I am able to hold it in one hand. Those of you that thought the GT 10.1 is too big...it's not. Really isn't too much bigger than the current GT. Very impressed.!!! Honeycomb takes some getting used to. Quick and just different.

I want one. But haven't read anything about a wifi only version and am not paying for anoyer data package I wont need.
Will continue to wait for why I need to be made. Although the XOOM seems like a very nice little toy.
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does it fit in our pocket?.....i rest my case
congrats tho. i would pick it up but i dont need another tablet. the tab does almost everything i need.

What puts me off is not being able to increase the memory capacity.
I find it limiting as it is with a 32GB Micro SD Card in my current Tab.
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By that I am referring to the fact the new Tab does not have an external memory slot.
The Xoom needs to have it's MicroSD Card activated at a later date.

cant take it in my jacket, too big for me...waiting for honey port with my 7'' sweety

Nice! If only I had enough money......

Very nice device...But a bit on the lofty side. Kind of rules out the portability factor when comparing it to the SGT.
Ich liebe mein SGT!

No pocket, no care.

With that thin bezel, I already predict a lot of "dropped" XOOMs in the coming weeks.

Could you post a full system dump?
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GANJDROID said:
Could you post a full system dump?
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well can you?!?!

The Xoom looks great. New electronics are always fun. Unboxing, powering up, etc. New OS version! I will say though that I too prefer the 7" form factor. You know how some people use both thumbs to text on their phones? I can't do that with a phone, but that's how I type on my Tab. I can respond to emails lickety split. Perfect size...
While I'm going here, check out Gun Bros on your Xoom! I bet its bad @55 on the 10.1 screen. I'm addicted to it on the Tab.
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natious said:
well can you?!?!
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Appologies for asking...
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Having owned a Viewsonic GTab, I said goodbye the 10.1 inch devices forever. You will get cramps in your thumb (on the hand that holds the device of course) after prolonged periods of trying to hold the device comfortably. It was annoying also trying to carry it around and as a woman it should be easy since I can just throw it in my purse.
While the Xoom looks nice, I need the 7" form factor. The Tab fits all of my needs (especially since it's my primary phone).

Can you compare the browser and UI experience versus GTab? Is Honecomb really GPU accelerated like iOS?
Thx!

I'll stick with my tab as it fits in my jacket pocket witn no problems.
A larger version for me is verging on just getting a netbook
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For me:
Pros: 10" screen, Honeycomb
Cons: Weight, cost
I really cannot justify an $800 tablet when I can get the SGT or the Dell Streak 7 with 4g for $500.
And the weight is just too heavy. I like to read eBooks and the SGT is about as heavy as I want. I tried an iPad and quickly realized I had to hold it with two hands and even then it became a pain. Same with the Xoom.
But, I think the Xoom is very cool and I hope you enjoy yours. I am sure you will.

I still sticked to a 8.9 tablet, Im kind of tired of resizing every web page on my galaxy tab to actually read it, on the iPad(or a 10.1) no resize is needed

hmm i might have to try the xoom out

waiting for the G-slate 8.9 inch , 3d, honeycomb, Lg and samsung r almost the same anyway. look at lg optomus 2x and galaxys

Xoom Experiment

This was an idea I had not sure if its possible but here goes.
We all know the xoom comes in 2 versions wifi and wifi/3g with a 4G upgrade. So far I can only assume this kind of modification is possible to do the 3/4G model.
As an alternative to upgrading to the 4G network or if your xoom has a bad esn it might be possible to remove the dummy half-height mini pci-e card and replace it with a mini pci express ssd hard drive. Both cards use the same 26-Pin connector so in theory it should work. Although there is no telling how or if it will even recognize the ssd.
I Purchased a used wifi/3g xoom from amazon and a 80gb intel ssd from newegg..........let the testing begin
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Definately fill me in on this
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Interesting. Would of made more sense to post after you tested.

I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.

I remember when I bought a PCI express card for a netbook to do hardware decoding (for smoother videos).
PCI express slots can be wired in different ways, specifically in my case as PCI-E or USB.
This slot could be wired as either considering it's to host 3G/4G whatever.
So this might be a restriction on what cards can be used.
Also when I mistakenly installed the 3G images on my WIFI only. It would try connect by 3G card first (even though non existent) and then try to use the WIFI. So given the card and the right drivers there's no reason why a 3G ATT/TM card couldn't be shoved in there either.
Not sure I'd be bother with more on-board disk space TBH.

kcrudup said:
I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.
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Your probably right.

Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.

eaglecomm said:
Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.
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Ich habe
Sold a while ago

What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?

eaglecomm said:
What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?
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E34 it was a 91 my dad helped me buy it after I graduated, not too long after that I sold it got a m-tech e30 and my cousin helped me with the s52 swap

nice.. I've got a 94 E34 540 6spd and love it.. hope you get back in to one someday.
ok really, /threadjack. back on topic....
So have you tried it yet? I have an 8gb miniPCI card just sitting around here that would be cool to try out if you find it works for you. Just like the others (and especially because of the work required to get the extra SD card running) I would imagine some kernel work would be required at the very least. As well as driver work. But who knows.. it's the ideas that count.

Small Update
I've got a bit of bad news for the wifi only owners
After taking apart my WiFi only xoom and comparing it to the 3G it's pretty obvious Motorola removed all necessary hardware on the WiFi model making in near impossible to try this. Although you could always buy a 26-pin pci-e connector and soldier it in to your xoom if your feeling brave.
Also my ssd will be here tomorrow 4/19 so we will see

So its the big day (19th) any good news yet? Really interested in this! Hope you pull it out! Think this will involve some kernel work as well? Maybe BigRushDog can help?

kenhunt said:
any good news yet?
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Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?

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Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?
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But isn't he doing it to his 3g xoom? Not the wifi.

I wouldn't mind hearing about an update on this.

Same, how's the work going?
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Very interesting topic!

I guess no news isn't always good news??? I hope there is some progress on this, would be nice to use when i don't want 3g/4g on my xoom anymore...

4/20 Update
For those waiting for an update yesterday I apologize, work was crazy and I didn't really have any free time.
As of today all I can say is stay tuned..... I've contacted a few forum members on the topic for some more insight on the next step and once I know more so will you.

Expansys has a 30 pin to sd card adaptor

http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung...-10-1-30-pin-to-usb-30-pin-to-sd-slot-219891/
I haven't seen this any place else. Hope it helps someone....
EDIT- probably the wrong section-- sorry.

That looks great, thanks for the heads up.

Sure. I haven't seen them anyplace else.... just got email confirmation its Samsung oem

does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab

jaoropez said:
not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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jaoropez said:
does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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Try looking at Euro stores.... that's where Expansys told me they were getting theirs.

Jay Evans said:
The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....

pdxrealtor said:
Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....
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This is correct. The SD reader is slightly larger.

pdxrealtor said:
but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
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I stand corrected...

@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!

Glad it helped.
I'm frustrated not with the 10.1 specifically but the tabs in general.
I tried to take an excel spread sheet in the field today- none of the office programs support check boxes.
Tried to take some pictures and then insert them into a pre formatted word document- no dice--
Think I might need a net book

Willy318is said:
@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!
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Duh price, people dont care about anything but how much sonething costs

For what it's worth. I was at best buy on sunday and they had at least 6 of the USB adapters..

can the tab benefit from a class 10 SD card or is that overkill?

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Dude, your manicure is crazy good.

Thanks, but not my hand....

Tablets and USB OTG - Flash drives with micro USB?

With the rise in popularity of tablets and smartphones, and the microUSB port as the standard for these devices, could we see some flash drives designed for tablets that make use of the microUSB connector?
I'd love to buy a 64GB flash drive that can plug straight into my Nexus 7 and my smartphone and my friends' devices too.
It'll probably be charged at a premium due to the relatively niche usage, but regular 64GB drives are pretty cheap these days, and they're only going to get cheaper.
Has anyone seen or heard of anything like this? A USB OTG adapter isn't so big or expensive but it'd be great to have a storage device that works natively.

Um....a lot of us do this already. Hell, I watched a movie off of a flash drive today. Hyst get stickmount on a rooted N7. I got the micro usb to female usb on ebay for 99 cents shipped.
Maybe I misunderstand the question?
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I think he meant flash drives with micro usb in it already as in the mount is micro instead of having an adapter

I did a search and this is all I could find:
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=2704
Not exactly convenient the way it is. They would've been smarter putting the micro USB port on the side, but even then, very pricey.

ace7196 said:
Um....a lot of us do this already. Hell, I watched a movie off of a flash drive today. Hyst get stickmount on a rooted N7. I got the micro usb to female usb on ebay for 99 cents shipped.
Maybe I misunderstand the question?
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post the ebay link please

AZImmortal said:
I did a search and this is all I could find:
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=2704
Not exactly convenient the way it is. They would've been smarter putting the micro USB port on the side, but even then, very pricey.
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From another thread:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297...sid=p3984.m1497.l2649&clk_rvr_id=369343095826

popsnorkle said:
From another thread:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280871297...sid=p3984.m1497.l2649&clk_rvr_id=369343095826
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Definitely a better price, but still inconvenient to have the connector on the end like that. I think that at least for now, it's more convenient to just have a separate cable, not to mention that I don't think I'd trust the reliability of these no-name flash drives in the long run.

Looking for something small to was also hoping to get an otg flash drive best I can find is one of these http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=1387 plugged into one of these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-USB...867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6edf4fbb. :crying:
Edit anyone interested found these http://adafruit.com/products/939 will take up to 64gb micros sdxc card just placed my order hope to get nexus in a few weeks.

I dream of this
I think what all of us dream of is something like this but just with microUSB connection and preferably with Nexus color and design!

vyaghini said:
I think what all of us dream of is something like this but just with microUSB connection and preferably with Nexus color and design!
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You mean like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-Micro-Flash-DTMCK/dp/B007V9U81E/

ilanad said:
You mean like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-Micro-Flash-DTMCK/dp/B007V9U81E/
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That picture clearly shows a normal-sized USB connector, not a microUSB connector.

GinoAMelone said:
That picture clearly shows a normal-sized USB connector, not a microUSB connector.
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I was looking for it too, didn't know so many people want a micro-sized USB connector Thumb Drive. It's hard to make it myself. I started but it didn't work out that good

I'd like to find one of these, too. Or even find out what ace in post 2 was referencing.
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This would be better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929214

I made this one for my cellphone
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Funny that enough of us think alike that threads like this get going...
Problem is, how do you then connect the otg thumb drove to your pc? There would also have to be a backward adapter. Also a switch to un-short the pins that define it as an OTG device.
That's why the cables are an easier way to go for now. ..

How about this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Afunta-Smar...18?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1360147908&sr=1-18
Or:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Connection-...300/dp/B006I31SHC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_computers_11
Or:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/4GB-USB-Flas...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item3f212aa7e7

This is what we need.
SanDisk 128GB microUSB

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SanDisk 128GB microUSB
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Yep, that is it ... finally.
Where did you find it?

Shield 2?

I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?
Thanks

If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box

I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV

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I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
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The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.

Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.

There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.
http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/
Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/
I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.

just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
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As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.

I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.

Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/

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Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
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not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same
the new rear layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-
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the old layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.
Lost the Sd card slot now.
Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.

Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.
"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.

Why on earth would they take the sd card out?

HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.

does the original not have 2.0b

Sub-Negro said:
Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
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it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.

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HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
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HUYI said:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
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Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.

Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.
On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.