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Video Out on N1 is Possible ?

It turns out that even with ExtUSB gone, which someone else pointed out prevented video out in the old fashion, HTC has figured out how to incorporate video out.
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/droid-incredible-does-tv-out-video/
This article says the Incredible, unlike the Evo 4g, does not use HDMI to do video out. It just uses the regular micro USB port, with composite ends on the other side.
Like the other person said before, thats not exactly 1080i, but it's gonna look fine in my car.
By the way.... THATS what I'ld like to see someone develop. Take the Incredible ROM, go through it, find whatever makes the video out work, and port it over to the N1 roms! Is that even possible?
And please, don't ten people say well don't demand of the devs, learn it yourself... if its impossible, or will take a long time, or whatever, I will wait patiently.

I'd be very surprised seeing as how the usb output on the nexus is very low (2MB/s), unless this is strictly a software stop.

trevorwhopkins said:
It turns out that even with ExtUSB gone, which someone else pointed out prevented video out in the old fashion, HTC has figured out how to incorporate video out.
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/droid-incredible-does-tv-out-video/
This article says the Incredible, unlike the Evo 4g, does not use HDMI to do video out. It just uses the regular micro USB port, with composite ends on the other side.
Like the other person said before, thats not exactly 1080i, but it's gonna look fine in my car.
By the way.... THATS what I'ld like to see someone develop. Take the Incredible ROM, go through it, find whatever makes the video out work, and port it over to the N1 roms! Is that even possible?
And please, don't ten people say well don't demand of the devs, learn it yourself... if its impossible, or will take a long time, or whatever, I will wait patiently.
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Pretty sure that's impossible. The port is different, so the cable that connects the Incredible to a TV wouldn't fit in an N1.
What kind of TV setup do you have in your car by the way? In the dashboard, or a TV in the backseat?

I think the ports are the same , just software or the cable enable the output ....I hope
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TittieBaby said:
I think the ports are the same , just software or the cable enable the output ....I hope
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The ports are definitely different. Pictures for proof:
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http://technoclicker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/nexus-one-google-1.jpg
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2010/04/19/htc-incredible-first-looks/

they're both microusb ports, should be the same.
but, composite out? bleh. composite can only carry 480i, not even 480p, i don't think. i know it can't handle anything higher than 480 lines of resolution

TV Out
Something like this would make me finally get that engagement ring for my Nexus One.
"Nexus One... Will you let me hook you up to my gigantic TV monitor?"

timothydonohue said:
they're both microusb ports, should be the same.
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Look at the pictures... They're clearly different.

Paul22000 said:
Look at the pictures... They're clearly different.
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micro a and b, they are technically the same port, but one fits into both but not the other way around

Here's the OEM HTC video-out cable:
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-HTC-Out-Cable-ACT100/dp/B002OOZDSE
Does it work on the N1? No idea... but I'm guessing currently not.
Cheers,
Kermee

Kermee said:
Here's the OEM HTC video-out cable:
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-HTC-Out-Cable-ACT100/dp/B002OOZDSE
Does it work on the N1? No idea... but I'm guessing currently not.
Cheers,
Kermee
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Good find.
I did a search for HTC ACT100 and found this one as well:
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-ACT100-Verizon-MyTouch/product-reviews/B0022JHOYM
This one actually has some reviews.
I don't think it will fit.

From wiki:
HTC manufactures Windows Mobile and Android-based Communicators which have a proprietary connector called HTC ExtUSB (Extended USB). ExtUSB combines mini-USB (with which it is backwards-compatible) with audio input as well as audio and video output in an 11-pin connector.
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=( That sucks, we only have a micro usb - B, pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

irrespective, i have an hdtv. most composite video looks like hammered poo on an hdtv

yeah totally different connectors, I still have mine, sucked when i first got my N1 to see what connection it uses.

this seems pretty interesting, unless the icredibles usb port has more connections then i think it could be possible. as far as i can see the only hardware limitation would be the port, i dont think the phone needs special hardware to output analog video does it?

The connectors from the board to the port are different than a standard charge/data connection.

[Q] Does Glacier use standard micro usb?

If the usb port on this phone is a non-standard size I am going to be pissed.
I loved that the mt3g uses a regular mini usb plug because pretty much everyone and their mom has something lying around the house that uses that size. That means that wherever I end up I can always find something to plug into and charge my phone.
I've used camera cables, blackberry chargers, even used my buddy's ps3 controller cable to charge my phone directly from the ps3 or the cable box, lol.
Can anyone enlighten me before I buy something from Ebay that I don't need?

of course it does. what even made you think it might not??

c_licious said:
of course it does. what even made you think it might not??
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Came across a thread in my googling that indicated there were two styles of micro usb. Also a coworker's phone (Captivate) has an equally small but differently shaped port.
I assumed one of the two ports (mine or hers) had to be non-standard, just didn't know which one.
Thanks for answering my question. So this should work just fine?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160502234988&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Phateless said:
Came across a thread in my googling that indicated there were two styles of micro usb. Also a coworker's phone (Captivate) has an equally small but differently shaped port.
I assumed one of the two ports (mine or hers) had to be non-standard, just didn't know which one.
Thanks for answering my question. So this should work just fine?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160502234988&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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yep, should work just fine. it's the new standard for most new devices.
P.S. I just re-read my post and it sounded kinda rude. sorry man, was in a hurry when I typed it.

c_licious said:
yep, should work just fine. it's the new standard for most new devices.
P.S. I just re-read my post and it sounded kinda rude. sorry man, was in a hurry when I typed it.
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No worries, I realized that you didn't mean it way.
Thanks tho!

Phateless said:
If the usb port on this phone is a non-standard size I am going to be pissed.
I loved that the mt3g uses a regular mini usb plug because pretty much everyone and their mom has something lying around the house that uses that size. That means that wherever I end up I can always find something to plug into and charge my phone.
I've used camera cables, blackberry chargers, even used my buddy's ps3 controller cable to charge my phone directly from the ps3 or the cable box, lol.
Can anyone enlighten me before I buy something from Ebay that I don't need?
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the ps3 usb cables wont fit. mytouch 4g has micro USB Cable.

s10shane said:
the ps3 usb cables wont fit. mytouch 4g has micro USB Cable.
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Right, micro vs. mini.

s10shane said:
the ps3 usb cables wont fit. mytouch 4g has micro USB Cable.
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...to charge my MT3G.
ekinnee said:
Right, micro vs. mini.
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Yes, I know the difference. I'm verifying that the mt4g uses a standard micro plug, which it sounds like it does. Cool.

REJOICE!
its standard...
I've been charging mine on an old LG charger I had lying around and keep the supplied micro USB cord with my laptop.
side note: I just ordered some Motorola right angle adapters from Amazon for 4 bucks each... I HATE the location of the USB plug; it makes landscape suck and charging at night is a pain logistically.
Need to get some mini-usb to micro-usb adapters to make use of the rest of my crap.

cal3thousand said:
its standard...
I've been charging mine on an old LG charger I had lying around and keep the supplied micro USB cord with my laptop.
side note: I just ordered some Motorola right angle adapters from Amazon for 4 bucks each... I HATE the location of the USB plug; it makes landscape suck and charging at night is a pain logistically.
Need to get some mini-usb to micro-usb adapters to make use of the rest of my crap.
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Oooh, right angle adapter is a good idea. Agreed, the charge port location sucks balls, but I assume that was a necessity.

Expansys has a 30 pin to sd card adaptor

http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung...-10-1-30-pin-to-usb-30-pin-to-sd-slot-219891/
I haven't seen this any place else. Hope it helps someone....
EDIT- probably the wrong section-- sorry.

That looks great, thanks for the heads up.

Sure. I haven't seen them anyplace else.... just got email confirmation its Samsung oem

does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab

jaoropez said:
not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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jaoropez said:
does anyone know where I can find only the SD adapter, I already have the usb adapter, look like the link above only sells a combo pack. I know I can probably buy a normal USB SD adapter, and connect that using the USB adapter, but i would rahter have a seprate USB SD adapter, not some really long thing sticking out of the tab
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Try looking at Euro stores.... that's where Expansys told me they were getting theirs.

Jay Evans said:
The SD and USB adapters are the same size. It's two separate units that use the same cap to protect their 30 pin plugs for storage.
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Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....

pdxrealtor said:
Actually, they aren't both the same size. They both stick out from the tablet the same distance (length) but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
The SD card reader is for a full size SD card.....
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This is correct. The SD reader is slightly larger.

pdxrealtor said:
but the SD card reader is wider than the USB reader.
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I stand corrected...

@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!

Glad it helped.
I'm frustrated not with the 10.1 specifically but the tabs in general.
I tried to take an excel spread sheet in the field today- none of the office programs support check boxes.
Tried to take some pictures and then insert them into a pre formatted word document- no dice--
Think I might need a net book

Willy318is said:
@pdxrealtor:
Excellent find, just ordered one for myself, though I think that the 10.1 will soon be replaced with the Transformer, dunno why is the Transformer is selling like hot cakes when compared to the 10.1, there must be a REASON!
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Duh price, people dont care about anything but how much sonething costs

For what it's worth. I was at best buy on sunday and they had at least 6 of the USB adapters..

can the tab benefit from a class 10 SD card or is that overkill?

Jay Evans said:
I stand corrected...
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Dude, your manicure is crazy good.

Thanks, but not my hand....

Extension Cable for Webtop?

Hey Guys,
I'm kinda afraid that I might break my Webtop's dock or my Atrix while docking/undocking it, plus I would like to keep my phone on the table & not on the dock... So I was wondering if there were Micro-HDMI extension cables, like a:
Micro-HDMI Female to Micro-HDMI Male Cable
&
Micro-USB Female to Micro-USB Male Cable
Thanks...

I also, I need these cables
somebody know where I can buy or make these cables ,,please

dealextreme
your best bet will be deal extreme. I got a micro hdmi female to hdmi female coupler from there. Couldn't find it anywhere else actually.
---------- Post added at 07:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:16 PM ----------
dealextreme.com/p/hdmi-male-to-hdmi-mini-female-adapter-black-41323[/url]
plus
dealextreme.com/p/gold-plated-hdmi-female-to-female-adapter-converter-29363[/url]
plus
dealextreme.com/p/hdmi-male-to-micro-hdmi-male-cable-145cm-length-66080[/url]
will get you the HDMI conversion
I cannot find a combo for the usb

I find it really funny that a thread opened up the same day I had this idea, though there haven't been any new posts since I last checked. I would really like to see something like this, it would be much easier than taking out my atrix out of my otterbox case each time I want to use the webtop.
A while ago I read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
and the part mentioned:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/hdmi-male-to-micro-hdmi-female-adapter-66079
if coupled with a hdmi female to female piece and the hdmi cable that came with the phone would cover the hdmi part of the proposed extender cable.
I'm having some trouble with finding a good cable with a micro usb female end though

I was thinking... If we took this, ripped it appart and soldered the micro female part to the micro male part on this. Wouldn't it work? Same concept for the micro usb. Plus I looked up mods for the Webdock, and the dock on the back can be taken apart to reveal two separate connectors without ruining anything important...

This guy modded his Webdock to work with the Photon. So I was thinking of just taking it apart like he did in the pictures, and using it like that. Or kinda mod the dock to make it wider so I can use my Atrix with my tpu case...
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I actually followed that and started to take apart my webtop. It's really easy to do so, but the cables are pretty well stuck in their slot, even after taking off the metal bracket thing. Besides, I'm to afraid to heavily modify the device, it's a little too fragile for my tastes. I was thinking of extending the cables out to allow me to attach the atrix in the otterbox, but it would be too risky for me, and it would probably be very flimsy. I'm going to continue to look for cables/adapters to suit my need

micro hdmi male to micro hdmi female
hey guys this is my first post but i found this item and it works on the atrix lapdock pretty cool piece i would include a link bbut i am new but i found this on all4cellulars website

That's what I've been looking for but I wish it was longer. I would use this so I can use my phone as a webcam on my lapdock. Now for a usb version and this would be complete.
http://www.all4cellular.com/micro-hdmi-male-to-female-adapter-type-d.html

Ok, just ordered these from ebay. Hopefully the HDMI is long enough so I can use my phone as a webcam on my Lapdock. If not, will buy another one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010

I have experienced that this works on dock very well .

Extension cables for motorola found
Just found these extension cables for atrix2 sure they will work for other motorola phones containing a micro hdmi and micro usb. Someone got smart and paired they items on amazon, I sure for a good markup but after all the hassle of trying to find them I'm good with it.
on amazon search B007RFRHIY
Good luck.

USB OTG adapter slightly tight

Hi guys,
Yesterday bought a USB-OTG adapter cable for my P3100 and it has been working flawlessly.
I tried these
4, 8, 16GB Pendrives
Mouse
Keyboard
Mouse+Keyboard together through splitter
I am quite happy with all the setup right now but has a little worry. The adapter is slightly tight when plugging(pushing) it in then Samsung cable(although I could not find any difference at all between both 30-pin connectors. They are absolutely alike.) Should I worry ? Plz advise !
Thanks
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Can you charge using that cable?
I bought an OTG cable myself today but i'm about to split it apart to see if there is anything(one way) inside which prevent me from charging with this.

Charging is blocked by kernel/framework and not by cable. My tab charges fine on CM10 via my laptop

silentvisitor said:
Charging is blocked by kernel/framework and not by cable. My tab charges fine on CM10 via my laptop
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Using that OTC cable? I'm using CM10 my self, but no usb charging with the OTG cable. I looked a bit on the kernel source and otg does prevent incoming power the the vbus, but not sure if that happens as soon as the otg cable in connected or when a device requiring host is connected.

silentvisitor said:
Hi guys,
Yesterday bought a USB-OTG adapter cable for my P3100 and it has been working flawlessly.
I tried these
4, 8, 16GB Pendrives
Mouse
Keyboard
Mouse+Keyboard together through splitter
I am quite happy with all the setup right now but has a little worry. The adapter is slightly tight when plugging(pushing) it in then Samsung cable(although I could not find any difference at all between both 30-pin connectors. They are absolutely alike.) Should I worry ? Plz advise !
Thanks
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I got a similar OTG cable from ebay (shipped from Hong Kong) for my P3100. It is also slightly tight compared to the original data /charging cable came along with the device. I think it should not be a problem, unless you need to push it with lot of force. I need to push it little harder than the original cable.

I would say tighter better. I have mine quite loose. And always disconnected
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silentvisitor said:
Hi guys,
Yesterday bought a USB-OTG adapter cable for my P3100 and it has been working flawlessly.
I tried these
4, 8, 16GB Pendrives
Mouse
Keyboard
Mouse+Keyboard together through splitter
I am quite happy with all the setup right now but has a little worry. The adapter is slightly tight when plugging(pushing) it in then Samsung cable(although I could not find any difference at all between both 30-pin connectors. They are absolutely alike.) Should I worry ? Plz advise !
Thanks
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I have the same cable. My dock connector got stuck in the tablet. Had to use tweezers to pull it out. Afterwards I super glued it back together and it holds. Still a tight fit though.
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Tight connector
silentvisitor said:
Hi guys,
Yesterday bought a USB-OTG adapter cable for my P3100 and it has been working flawlessly.
I tried these
4, 8, 16GB Pendrives
Mouse
Keyboard
Mouse+Keyboard together through splitter
I am quite happy with all the setup right now but has a little worry. The adapter is slightly tight when plugging(pushing) it in then Samsung cable(although I could not find any difference at all between both 30-pin connectors. They are absolutely alike.) Should I worry ? Plz advise !
Thanks
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I've had some experiences with Samsung connectors, and -in my opinion- they all fit very tightly when new. They tend to get looser over the time. Just try not to force it in the soket; at the beginning a little care is needed, you will see that by getting used to plug and unplug it when tight and by the natural wear that occurs in the components, the odd sensation of tightness will go away.