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Nexus One or Htc Bravo?

I really like my G1 but i'm thinking on upgrading to a new phone in a couple of months...the phone that have been in my mind actually is the Nokia N900...but now with the nice looing N1 things have change...now so far what i know is that the Htc Bravo is gonna have a better camera but a less RAM that the N1...and is gonna have the Sense UI...which i like...anyway any comments on this?

where did you hear that?

I'm not to sure on the camera part but I did hear it's got 320MB of Ram.

I heard that too but where did you hear it was going to have a better camera? Also none of the stuff about the RAM is confirmed, although Sense UI is most definatly going to be included, but the Nexus One with a custom sense UI rom will be able to run sense UI better anyway if the part about the RAM is true.

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/01/13/3-sweden-says-its-getting-htc-bravo-in-march/
maybe i was wrong about the camera can't find the source...
actually it has a addition of a five megapixel AF cam capable of 720p video capture

DKM119 said:
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/01/13/3-sweden-says-its-getting-htc-bravo-in-march/
maybe i was wrong about the camera can't find the source...
actually it has a addition of a five megapixel AF cam capable of 720p video capture
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That would be the same camera as the N1. I may be biased but I would say that the Nexus One wins against the Bravo hands down.

I'd just get the Nexus One so you can have a snap dragon phone now then you can install a Sense rom when that comes out.

QMAN101 said:
That would be the same camera as the N1. I may be biased but I would say that the Nexus One wins against the Bravo hands down.
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would you care to elaborate?

iVisionX01 said:
I'd just get the Nexus One so you can have a snap dragon phone now then you can install a Sense rom when that comes out.
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Actually the Bravo has a snapdrangon too....i really like the way it look and i think the optical "balltrack" looks awesome...

Look man, the camera is probably going to be the same. The Nexus One will have more RAM, and therefore a Sense UI Custom ROM on the Nexus One will run smoother than any Sense UI ROM on the Bravo. Its pretty clear that the choice, assuming you plan to root the phone and install a custom ROM, is the N1.

I like the optical "trackball" a lot better too. I just think that Google would do software updates more/faster than HTC. And I don't care for the Sense UI anymore. Vanilla Android (with tweaks from xda members) is enough for me.

parrot5 said:
I like the optical "trackball" a lot better too. I just think that Google would do software updates more/faster than HTC. And I don't care for the Sense UI anymore. Vanilla Android (with tweaks from xda members) is enough for me.
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The optical trackpad is fascinating, if they could light the trackpad with a tri-color led, then I would be interested more.
I think Google was aware of the Bravo when HTC made the Nexus One. They probably were okay with HTC releasing a phone with the same core hardware as the N1 (minus the extra RAM).
EDIT: For me the big incentive for the N1 is the "generally" Vanilla install. With my Sprint Hero, I removed the extras. A lot of people like Sense though, but I waited for a while and realized that Sprint wasn't going to release updates in a timely manner. If I had to rely on anyone for updates, I'm more comfortable relying on Google (and occasionally HTC) for them.

bravo is the nexus one but the prototype of it no bravo will be released

hoss_n2 said:
bravo is the nexus one but the prototype of it no bravo will be released
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What the heck are you talking about???...Htc Bravo is getting release in April...and it may be similar to the N1 but is not the same...

hoss_n2 said:
bravo is the nexus one but the prototype of it no bravo will be released
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Bravo was listed on HTC's leaked roadmap as reported on this very site:
XDA Developers - [EXCLUSIVE] HTC Portfolio 2010 (Q1-Q2)
Also, here is the other article:
SlashGear - HTC 2010 roadmap leaks: HTC Bravo 1GHz Android confirmed [Updated]

The n1 and bravo have the same hardware. Bravo will come with sense and wont be rushed like the n1 was. Google released the n1 early to try to beat the other (bravo) snapdragon phones coming out. Why would you buy the n1 over the bravo if you seen the bravo with HTC sense? I love my n1 but now i kinda wish I would of waited for the more polished bravo. You may ask why more polished? I bet it wont have 3g issues, dust under the screeen and alignment issues. All of the n1 issues could have been fixed before launch.

Im assuming its CDMA ? Thatd be weird to drop this one on GSM bands so quickly unless its ATT.
Love the optical trackball alot.
I hope those expresso videos Ive seen arent accurate, sense UI looks seriously uglified.

shep211 said:
The n1 and bravo have the same hardware. Bravo will come with sense and wont be rushed like the n1 was. Google released the n1 early to try to beat the other (bravo) snapdragon phones coming out. Why would you buy the n1 vs bravo at a t-mobile store if you seen the bravo with HTC sense? I love my n1 but now i kinda wish I would of waited for the more polished bravo. You may ask why more polished? I bet it wont have 3g issues, dust under the screeen and alignment issues. All of the n1 issues could have been fixed before launch.
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you know i used to buy stuff...i used to pre-order stuff long time ago...now i just wait a little see the reviews from people that jump to buy stuff as soon as they came out...and then i get my stuff acording to thoese reviews...i'm gonna wait for the Bravo to be on the market and how thing are...on another note i think that the HTC Bravo look way more cooler than the N1...but that is just me...

shep211 said:
The n1 and bravo have the same hardware. Bravo will come with sense and wont be rushed like the n1 was. Google released the n1 early to try to beat the other (bravo) snapdragon phones coming out. Why would you buy the n1 over the bravo if you seen the bravo with HTC sense? I love my n1 but now i kinda wish I would of waited for the more polished bravo. You may ask why more polished? I bet it wont have 3g issues, dust under the screeen and alignment issues. All of the n1 issues could have been fixed before launch.
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Rushed like the N1 was? Simply because SOME people are having 3G connection issues, and SOME people are having dust under the screen means it was rushed? This means that the manufactures aren't "manufacturing" the device correctly obviously (not the 3G part). I don't believe it was rushed, I just think they don't know how to make the device at wherever they are shipping it from. If anything, this same exact thing could possibly happen to the Bravo - if they haven't learned from these past mistakes.
This 3G issue seems simply retarded, and I have no way of helping the N1 out on it sadly. I can't see why people would be having connectivity issues. That, I must admit, I guess is an issue that the N1 has. But people are making such a big, please note an - unnecessary - deal out of these issues just to bash the device..not cool >.>

Eclair~ said:
I can't see why people would be having connectivity issues. That, I must admit, I guess is an issue that the N1 has. But people are making such a big, please note an - unnecessary - deal out of these issues just to bash the device..not cool >.>
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I don't own a N1 but are this devices supposse to be phones before anything else...i mean if anybody have problem with the "connectivity"...i think is rigth that the are making big deal out of it...in another note lots a people paid $530 for the N1...dude if i'm paying $530 for a phone at least i need "connectivity"...and dont think anybody (beside engadget and iphones junkies) are bashing the device.

From nexus one to T-Mobile G2/HTC desire z.

I was thinking. About getting the new T-Mobile g2 when it comes out. Is it worth it to switch. I read that the new processor is even better the samsungs. Do you think. Its worth it?
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Unless you want a keyboard, of course not.
It's 99% the same phone, but with a keyboard.

I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.

I know there are alot of similarities but i keep hearing that the phone has better battery a faster processor, and faster speeds in HSPA+ also witha keyboard. since I mainly use it for texting i find it hard to find a reason especialy since sliders are rare in android unless your on Verizon.(Tmobile) to not get it aside form the fact that in 3-4 months there will be alot of better dual core phones.

metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
Rellikzephyr
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I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!

G0belet said:
I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!
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more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.

Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?

I'm getting one. Sexy phone. To me, at least.

The phone is not that close to a nexus, the g 2 will run much faster than the nexus with second gen chipset and supports faster speeds, better battery life, keyboard and handles flash better its def a decent upgrade and its sexy
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metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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Agreed. The specs are too close to the N1 to try to ride out for a year(I know I can't go two years with the same phone so I try to get something that won't leave me mad for more than 6 months as new hardware comes out.) 5mp camera? No sale. I'm waiting for a dual core, higher megapixels, HD out, 720p video and a coupon for a half-price on a hooker.

RellikZephyr said:
I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
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Mytouch HD is coming out this year and has dual snapdragon processors.

I want to see some benchmarks and reviews before getting the G2. The N1 is still a great phone.

I will be waiting for something that has specs like the rumored HD7.. dual core 1.2g processors and 4.3-4.5 inch screen and 1g of ram. When i see this I will make the switch

I would wait for reviews before upgrading. At least that's what I'm going to do.
I may hold out until after the myTouch HD comes out. Because I'm wondering how many other dual core will follow for TMobile. I'm thinking TMobile may not see any other nicer higher end phones than the G2 and myT HD until Fall of 2011.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.
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Preinstalled Apps, such as Swype, run on top of Vanilla Android. There is a very small modification that we make to the framework to make Swype work properly, but this is not nearly the same as complete frameworks like TouchWiz or SenseUI. Those types of frameworks need to be heavily modified to maintain compatibility with each release. In many ways, it is the driver support that holds back rapid rollouts for different phones, Vanilla Android or not. If the kernel is a new version, those drivers need to be recompiled and perhaps rewritten, and those come from the OEMs and their suppliers.

Quantumstate said:
Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?
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What are you talking about?
G1, MyTouch 3G, MyTouch Slide, Nexus One, and HD2(these are the only ones off the top of my head) all have vanilla ported onto them.

The Nexus one, Mytouch 3g, and g1 have always had vanilla android.

Godammit, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.

Quantumstate said:
, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.
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if you'll notice, the majority of folks are not crowing about the nexus from a software perspective, or any android based phone for that matter... the big deal is (ok WAS) the hardware.
each time a new android based phone is released, people don't get excited about android version 2.x.x.x, they want the HARDWARE because in most cases if it ships android, it can run any version android. the hardware makes a huge difference.
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isn't htc sensation just the update of the desire HD

most of the stupid things in desire HD were fixed but not a big step.
Cannot they push it out at the time desire HD was out? At that time,
it will be the ONE.

henrik.dk said:
most of the stupid things in desire HD were fixed but not a big step.
Cannot they push it out at the time desire HD was out? At that time,
it will be the ONE.
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Good question, I don't think Qualcomm Dual core processors are completely available at the release of our DHD. May be the reason HTC can push all those things into DHD, but it would be possible by now or even some time later. So we need to wait for DHD instead of waiting for Sensation. And from HTC side, they will loose the market if they won't ship products continuously with slight upgrade.
Any way I am going to sell my DHD for Sensation.
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It's a pretty big step in my opinion. Next gen dual core Qualcomm processor, new Andreno 220 graphics chip, higher resolution QHD display, MHL for HDMI output over USB, 1080p video recording, front facing camera, new Bluetooth 3.0 chip, larger battery, and a brand new version of Sense. Yeah, small upgrade .

I agree, it's a pretty big upgrade. Even if the processors were available when the DHD was released, they wouldn't have been when the hardware specs were finalised, which would have been months before the release.

Drool. But of course ill have to wait for 850/900 canadian 3g bands

What a blasphemous topic!! The DHD is an OLD Sense 2.0 based device, with a mere Adreno 205 GPU and a sub-par display... This is a godly re-imagining of Android, and while it has the same size, RAM, ROM, Camera.... Ok I can see the similarities LMAO But it still has Sense 3.0!! Along with a GPU that blows everything else out of the water

equlizer said:
Drool. But of course ill have to wait for 850/900 canadian 3g bands
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Fear not!! Many European phones bear these bands, so it should be no more than... 7-8 months on Telus, and maybe half that for Bell LOL

Yes it is and your point being, it is in manufacturers interest to keep the spec reasonable so they can make the best profit and have something in hand for when they get trumped. Anyone buying a top spec device risks disappointment when it is usurped mere months down the line by the next big thing.

On their official facebook page HTC just said:
"Clarification: There are aspects of the latest HTC Sense that won’t work on some of our previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will. Stay tuned."
So there's still hope for parts of sense 3.0 officially being put on our DHD even if it's not the whole thing

sromer said:
On their official facebook page HTC just said:
"Clarification: There are aspects of the latest HTC Sense that won’t work on some of our previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will. Stay tuned."
So there's still hope for parts of sense 3.0 officially being put on our DHD even if it's not the whole thing
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Its all HTC marketing hype they just want you to buy a new phone to get sense 3. They are really getting very poor at supporting older phones. Thank heavens for cm7 so I don't have to wait a life time for GB with sense(less) added on top. IMHO.
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Tbh the new sense will look different but they aren't going to fix something which isn't broken, HTC are too smart for that, they'll add features to an already established product, and as for us being on the soon to be lower end of the spectrum, it's just a case of making do with what the custom rom makers can rustle up, i'm sure there will be some sort of sense 3.0 port on the DHD and other phones, there always is, i mean i have froyo running like a dream on my old hero which was never available from HTC as an upgrade afaik.
So don't worry about your DHD just yet because theres plenty of life left in it

It's really a big deal...

Sprint Announcement regarding OTA update to Android 4.0 for HTC devices

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-for-htc-devices
Sprint will begin to rollout Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, to our customers in early 2012. Ice Cream Sandwich will be available via an over-the-air update to a variety of devices including HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and other key products in our line-up. Stay tuned for more details and exact timing.
On their facebook posting they also added this key bit of information:
Information about Ice Cream Sandwich for the original HTC EVO 4G will be communicated at a later date. So take that for what it is, but it looks like the EVO is in for possibly one last update.

Sucks the EVO 4G isn't on that list but then again its only a matter of time before a dev has a rom out for it
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I bet it will eventually get it. It was there star phone last year.

I have serious doubts the OG will get it but I'd be very happy to see it. They didn't even bother to update sense when they gave us gingerbread.
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What I don't understand is how can the design 4G run sense 3.0 smoothly, if I Overclock to 1.2ghz, I still can't get that smoothness on sense 3.0
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What I don't understand is how can the design 4G run sense 3.0 smoothly, if I Overclock to 1.2ghz, I still can't get that smoothness on sense 3.0
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Newer processor and gpu probably more ram as well
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I was fairly certain that the EVO 4G was not getting an official OTA of ICS. This makes me only more certain
Thank god for XDA

We will get it. If not officially, then unofficially. Who runs official rom's anyway?
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We will get it. If not officially, then unofficially. Who runs official rom's anyway?
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Hardly anyone here, but it provides a good base to make a stable and fully functional custom rom off of.
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I'm sure they have tested it out. The Evo doesnt have a gpu, and doesnt have enough ram to run ics smoothly. I'm sure there will be roms available for it, but no official updates.

Per http://androidandme.com/2011/11/new...e-of-devices-to-get-android-4-0-in-early-2012
A quick review of the list shows these are all newer devices released in 2011 with either a Snapdragon S2 or Snapdragon S3 processor. Google already said that aging devices like the Nexus One with a Snapdragon S1 processor were “too old” to be upgraded, so don’t get your hopes up if you have the original HTC EVO 4G that features similar specs.
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This is going to fragment the hell out of the Android market. Well, it will fragment it even further is what I mean by that.
*Sigh* The EVO is the most popular Android phone for Sprint and it's going to stuck in 2011 forever. Some people (Not me) may have purchased their EVO within the past 6 months and wouldn't be eligible for an upgrade until Android 5/6 is out. That's like a PR nightmare. Most people don't understand the "GeeBee's" or GHz concepts that we are familiar with, but what they will do is get bored after awhile of the same damn homescreen and want something with more piazza. People like new stuff! Especially when they don't have to pay for it. Even the technologically retarded see an update to (2.2/2.3) on their EVO and go, "Well this is cool!"
I don't really blame HTC, (Although I do wish the EVO had more internal storage) I blame Google. ICS is GPU intensive, which is nice and flashy, but that's a problem for older phones that can't process those fancy graphics. That's also going to be a drag for battery life, and I personally would rather have less swag and more function. They should of made a "light" version of ICS, or an option toggle-able on beefer handsets or "required" for older that lessens the graphics and RAM to both save battery life on high end phones and allows older handsets to upgrade to the new OS and still feel valid in this ever changing world of Moore's.

A light version would be nice. It's too bad the evo doesn't have better internals. If ics was to somehow get ported, the fancy graphics will lag like crazy.

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I'm sure they have tested it out. The Evo doesnt have a gpu, and doesnt have enough ram to run ics smoothly. I'm sure there will be roms available for it, but no official updates.
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The EVO, just like the Nexus One has an Adreno 200 GPU. It's pretty under powered compared to newer phones of course.
I have no doubt we'll see a few roms out for both the EVO and Nexus One, I'm sure they'll be broken at first but over time they'll become great.

We will get ICS ports no matter what. I'm not expecting an official OTA, but I would like to see some updated drivers and the newest kernel source (here the newest kernel has trickle charging!) from HTC
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The EVO, just like the Nexus One has an Adreno 200 GPU. It's pretty under powered compared to newer phones of course.
I have no doubt we'll see a few roms out for both the EVO and Nexus One, I'm sure they'll be broken at first but over time they'll become great.
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To be honest, all I'm interested in are the new Apps. I haven't used 4.0 on anything other than the SDK, but the new People (Contacts) App, the new Dialer, Gallery, Calendar and a few other miscs could be ported. The only problem is all the new API's wouldn't work. I honestly am too much of a LauncherPro lover to switch to the ICS launcher. (Give me a scrollable dock and I'll jump ship) And some apps like the Multitasking, keyboard and the new dictionary, may be baked too deeply into the OS to salvage as a a simple apk or install.
I'm sure the guys here at XDA will cook up something, I've already taken a few turns at butchering the Galaxy Nexus ROM that dropped a few days ago, but I'm sure there's a few more dedicated people really toying away getting stuff working on their "obsolete" device.
I just need to make it till August 2012, just gotta keep on telling myself that. Hello quad-core 2.0GHz EVO3! (That's a guess by the way.) Until then, CES is in two months, can't wait to go!

Yeah, I really want to wait for till next June at least too, though it'll be hard......but if we got a mostly stable version of ICS for our EVO's, it'd definitely be easier to wait.
The SGSII has been out for over 6 months now, and while it's still impressive, I feel like I'd be settling if I grabbed one or a phone like it.
Give me a 4.5-4.7 720p screen with no pentile, 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram and Cortex A-15 quad-core phone!
We'll have to wait till at least next June for something of the sort.

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Yeah, I really want to wait for till next June at least too, though it'll be hard......but if we got a mostly stable version of ICS for our EVO's, it'd definitely be easier to wait.
The SGSII has been out for over 6 months now, and while it's still impressive, I feel like I'd be settling if I grabbed one or a phone like it.
Give me a 4.5-4.7 720p screen with no pentile, 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram and Cortex A-15 quad-core phone!
We'll have to wait till at least next June for something of the sort.
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Yup, that's exactly what I'm looking forward to, you took the specs right out of my mouth. And to be honest, the community here for the original EVO is still superb 15 months after release.
The only things my phone can't do is play high-graphics games and NFC. The camera quality ticks me off sometimes and battery life can be a bummer, especially with an LCD screen. But the EVO is a solid device, I still get a few "What phone is that?" from people who are interested in the 4.3" display and my custom interface, most expect Sense.
Plus, kickstand. I mean come on guys... Kickstand.
We'll be booting* 4.0 within the next 3 months, I'm sure. Open source me some code Google. You already messed up with the minimum requirements, let us take it from here.

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Yeah, I really want to wait for till next June at least too, though it'll be hard......but if we got a mostly stable version of ICS for our EVO's, it'd definitely be easier to wait.
The SGSII has been out for over 6 months now, and while it's still impressive, I feel like I'd be settling if I grabbed one or a phone like it.
Give me a 4.5-4.7 720p screen with no pentile, 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram and Cortex A-15 quad-core phone!
We'll have to wait till at least next June for something of the sort.
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The sgsii not coming here for 6 months kind of makes it old already lol means Sammy has been updating it for half yr plus I mean that only leaves them with a yr required to update per the agreement they came to with Google. And doesn't the prime have a 200 gpu or some the same one as the nexus s just double the clock speed?
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I really wanted to get the Galaxy Nexus at first, but it has a pentile display, which isn't a total deal breaker, but LG has the Optimus LTE coming out soon to Europe with the same resolution and no pentile, so we should definitely see some phones with truly non-hampered HD screens soon enough.
The GPU in it is also the same as the one in the first iPad and first Galaxy S line of phones.......it's literally a GPU that's been around for years, which is very disappointing.
I know it'll still be admirable phone, and have great performance overall, but it's not the dream gadget everyone was hoping it would be.

What will be the G2/Desire Z successor?

Let me first say that we all know that the Desire Z is an amazing phone and still is. It's got a great camera, speed, screen, features, keyboard, sound, unlocked bootloader, etc. However at the current moment there isn't really a great successor to it in my opinion. And by successor I don't mean a true successor of course. Let's take a look at some QWERTY phones on the market:
MyTouch 4G Slide
http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_mytouch_4g_slide-4018.php
It's basically a G2 with slightly better specs and a better camera. Not much of an upgrade.
Droid 3
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_3-4036.php
Last time I heard it had a locked bootloader so it has very limited software support. Definitely not friendly in that department. Specs are better than the 4G Slide.
Captivate Glide
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
I had high hopes for this one. It has a lot of improvements such as a AMOLED screen, slightly bigger screen, and similar specs to the Galaxy S2. However, it is somewhat of a downgraded Galaxy S2 considering that it came out just recently as it lacks LTE support and it does not have a higher resolution than the G2. However Samsung is friendly to the open source community. Oh also no LED notification (Ahh!).
So if I had to pick now it would be the Captivate Glide but I am not going to. I am hoping that HTC will make the G3 and put all their top tier specs onto the QWERTY phone like they did with the G2, including a bigger and higher resolution screen, LTE support, quad core CPU, etc.
Long live the G2/Desire Z!

Oh and yes the Droid 4 is coming out. From the looks of it, it will be a Droid RAZR but in QWERTY.

Droid 4 sure looks interesting but will it make it to Europe ah probably will, under the name Milestone. I like the way the 4 basic android buttons are still present, hope ICS wont kill them in the future phones.
Not going to change my phone for a while tough DZ works great, had it for about a year now. And i suppose it depends also if these phones will get MIUI rom . But i'm interested to see HTC make G3, not just yet tough, next summer maybe. within a year i hope.

i was caught by this statement "However Samsung is friendly to the open source community. Oh also no LED notification (Ahh!)."
is HTC not dev friendly? me? yeah. sucks. they left Desire series. that includes our Z.
anyway going back to the topic. i prefer the Glide.

No offense but the g2's camera sucks. Video recording is like 20fps in areas slightly less than ideal lighting conditions and stills require a steady hand and ideal lighting.

The Captivate Glide sounded interesting at first. But the more I read, the more I'm disappointed.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1
Sounds like crappy exterior build quality, and bad keyboard. And as the OP mentioned, no LTE. Really not much of an upgrade from the G2/DZ, IMO.
And the 1 GHz CPU on the Captivate Glide seems obsolete out of the box, as the high end smartphones are going to 1.2 GHz and higher nowadays.

Like everyone here mention Droid 4 is awesome I dont like sammy software as i myself had epic 4g it was buggy on input that physical keyboard wasnt even optimize for the software like on full touch screen galaxy line. As im more in love with stock aka pure google or vanilla phones. I would wait for htc to release the G3 before deciding to get another plus all the apps i want i can get. Their no point upgrading if android market is supporting our phones. I love droid when it was the first one because of vanilla experience unless moto change their way i wont get the droid 4. Droid 3 is awesome but i dislike both Motoblur and Sense ui referring to htc phone on that. I rather have touchwiz before both. But it your pick on what phone your getting.

i wouldn't go as far as to say the DZ has a great screen. it actually kinda sucks. so I think the next best thing will be ANY phone with a keyboard, better screen, better camera, will probably be HTC (or moto now that google is running things there) and at the very least just as fast (but faster probably and probably dual core). so..... the MT4GS? lol

Look like g1 got android 4.0 os lol wow not even the first iphone got 4.0 os apple is for losers .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19649295
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4A82ft5pw&feature=player_embedded#!

Dell Hancock. Nuffsaid.

skinnyveganboy said:
i wouldn't go as far as to say the DZ has a great screen. it actually kinda sucks. so I think the next best thing will be ANY phone with a keyboard, better screen, better camera, will probably be HTC (or moto now that google is running things there) and at the very least just as fast (but faster probably and probably dual core). so..... the MT4GS? lol
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It's better than the Super AMOLED-Pentile window screens they put on the Galaxy S phones.

mputtr said:
Dell Hancock. Nuffsaid.
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That one seems like vapourware. Wasn't it rumored like 1 year ago?

add119 said:
Look like g1 got android 4.0 os lol wow not even the first iphone got 4.0 os apple is for losers .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19649295
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4A82ft5pw&feature=player_embedded#!
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did you even watch the video?
ICS runs like **** in it
iOS 4 and 5 would like run like **** on the iPhone 1 Gen
You honestly want to talk about android fragmentation?

Sure looks like we are in for a long wait until the next Scandinavian QWERTY Android is here. My DZ is still great though.

jrkr said:
Sure looks like we are in for a long wait until the next Scandinavian QWERTY Android is here. My DZ is still great though.
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Yeah DZ rocks as long. Before i buy anything i probably wait for it to get MIUI. I don't like sense, not sure about motoblur/touchwiz, never used them. So i might even enjoy them.
Anyway i get the hardware i like and root it to get the firmware the way i like. I'd like to see G3 popping up in 9 months.

I honestly dont think the Htc g3 will appears for a while until t-mobile feel like making g2 users jump the wagon. Because mytouch slide 4g was the same screen size i didnt like that it had sense ui to be honest/.
Specs the mytouch 4g slide is better but i dont like sense ui, to me that not better in my opinion,if im going to root a phone i dont want to root it for Stock ui .
i want to have stock already just overclock it and use root explorer to delete the apps i dont like.
Whippler said:
Yeah DZ rocks as long. Before i buy anything i probably wait for it to get MIUI. I don't like sense, not sure about motoblur/touchwiz, never used them. So i might even enjoy them.
Anyway i get the hardware i like and root it to get the firmware the way i like. I'd like to see G3 popping up in 9 months.
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Dude this is in alpha it show that iphone that say android cant run higher then 1.6 to 2.1 is wrong?
Im just saying i had g1 when it was 1.0 and update 1.1 in march 2009, update 1.5 in late may to june 2009. update/upgrade 1.6 os in early october 2009.
Google g1 was best phone that run all version of all time.
I dont think the nexus one will past beyond Ice cream sandwich and if it do android 4.5 os or 5.0 jelly bean will be it last update.
Same with phone from late 2010 Either Ice cream sandwich or Jelly bean will be it last updates also.
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did you even watch the video?
ICS runs like **** in it
iOS 4 and 5 would like run like **** on the iPhone 1 Gen
You honestly want to talk about android fragmentation?
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If you don't like Sense, why buy HTC?

leobg said:
That one seems like vapourware. Wasn't it rumored like 1 year ago?
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the roadmap was leaked a year ago. the hancock was slated for Q4 2011, but no news of it
http://www.infosyncworld.com/review...d-hancock-bet-on-android-ice-cream/11801.html
p.s vaporware was duke nukem forever. You need several years of broken promises to be considered vaporware. in duke's case, something like a decade.
costipl said:
If you don't like Sense, why buy HTC?
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because you can root the phone and put in CM/MIUI/insertROMhere? Most people simply like the build and spec that HTC offers.

Sorry for this gravedig, but are there any new possible successors? I don't think so right?

Roolio said:
Sorry for this gravedig, but are there any new possible successors? I don't think so right?
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I'm wondering the same thing, as one of my kids might be in the market for a new phone, and they like h/w keyboards.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.