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From nexus one to T-Mobile G2/HTC desire z.

I was thinking. About getting the new T-Mobile g2 when it comes out. Is it worth it to switch. I read that the new processor is even better the samsungs. Do you think. Its worth it?
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Unless you want a keyboard, of course not.
It's 99% the same phone, but with a keyboard.

I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.

I know there are alot of similarities but i keep hearing that the phone has better battery a faster processor, and faster speeds in HSPA+ also witha keyboard. since I mainly use it for texting i find it hard to find a reason especialy since sliders are rare in android unless your on Verizon.(Tmobile) to not get it aside form the fact that in 3-4 months there will be alot of better dual core phones.

metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
Rellikzephyr
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I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!

G0belet said:
I'd switch in a heartbeat if I had a job to pay for it, if the device is as open as our beloved N1, and if the 3G was triband. We didn't read the final spec sheet but IIRC the 3G is only dual-band, making it impossible for us Europeans to roam to the USA.
That's pretty sad for such an awesome HSPA+ phone. But maybe the spec sheet I found is wrong and the radio actually IS triband!
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more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.

Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?

I'm getting one. Sexy phone. To me, at least.

The phone is not that close to a nexus, the g 2 will run much faster than the nexus with second gen chipset and supports faster speeds, better battery life, keyboard and handles flash better its def a decent upgrade and its sexy
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metalhead8816 said:
I would wait until Q1 of 2011 when the dual-core 1.2ghz phones come out. Or at least that is what I am doing.
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Agreed. The specs are too close to the N1 to try to ride out for a year(I know I can't go two years with the same phone so I try to get something that won't leave me mad for more than 6 months as new hardware comes out.) 5mp camera? No sale. I'm waiting for a dual core, higher megapixels, HD out, 720p video and a coupon for a half-price on a hooker.

RellikZephyr said:
I highly doubt dual cores will be out that quick. It would be nice tho
Paul: its actually a very different phone, scorpion processor with adreno 205, big improvement on snapdragon
Rellikzephyr
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Mytouch HD is coming out this year and has dual snapdragon processors.

I want to see some benchmarks and reviews before getting the G2. The N1 is still a great phone.

I will be waiting for something that has specs like the rumored HD7.. dual core 1.2g processors and 4.3-4.5 inch screen and 1g of ram. When i see this I will make the switch

I would wait for reviews before upgrading. At least that's what I'm going to do.
I may hold out until after the myTouch HD comes out. Because I'm wondering how many other dual core will follow for TMobile. I'm thinking TMobile may not see any other nicer higher end phones than the G2 and myT HD until Fall of 2011.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
more importantly, it doesn't have vanilla android because you get some seperate preinstalled apps like swype. So you won't get Android updates as early as Nexus One Users with stock android. This is a KO criteria for me. I want to get the updates first, as soon as google rolls them out, and not wait for tmobile to release them.
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Preinstalled Apps, such as Swype, run on top of Vanilla Android. There is a very small modification that we make to the framework to make Swype work properly, but this is not nearly the same as complete frameworks like TouchWiz or SenseUI. Those types of frameworks need to be heavily modified to maintain compatibility with each release. In many ways, it is the driver support that holds back rapid rollouts for different phones, Vanilla Android or not. If the kernel is a new version, those drivers need to be recompiled and perhaps rewritten, and those come from the OEMs and their suppliers.

Quantumstate said:
Why is it that vanilla Android cannot be installed on a TMo phone?
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What are you talking about?
G1, MyTouch 3G, MyTouch Slide, Nexus One, and HD2(these are the only ones off the top of my head) all have vanilla ported onto them.

The Nexus one, Mytouch 3g, and g1 have always had vanilla android.

Godammit, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.

Quantumstate said:
, this is why I'm asking. If Cyanogenmod can be installed on these other phones, why is there so much crowing about how the N1 is special? WTF is it that makes the N1 better than the others, from a software perspective? This is what I am trying to find out, but nobody seems to actually know, in their conscious mind anyway.
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if you'll notice, the majority of folks are not crowing about the nexus from a software perspective, or any android based phone for that matter... the big deal is (ok WAS) the hardware.
each time a new android based phone is released, people don't get excited about android version 2.x.x.x, they want the HARDWARE because in most cases if it ships android, it can run any version android. the hardware makes a huge difference.
see ?

HTC HD3 first real pictures & specifications

look at this link http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-in-real-pictures-looks-great-kickstand-on-display/#more-20107 the htc hd3 is leaked in real pictures as well as the specifications which are
5mpix camera with hd recorde and matal stand
8gb on board storage :S
same 8250 processor
4.3 inch screen with capastive buttons
no thing on ram
no HDMI
i think it must be hd2 wp7 edition
and here is the source for specifications
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-specs-leak-with-tiny-picture-we-have-a-better-one/

same hardware new look...**** that...ill wait for new processors and something actually new rather than just changing the shell. though its a very nice looking phone

a very difficult choice between the hd7 and the desire HD imo

only 8gb storage.......I was excited.......
not anymore.......

what make hd2 better is the extended sd card memory , and the dual boot , that is impossible for now on wp7 , i will stay with hd2 and wait for wp7 port , i think with these specifications we could have a good port

http://www.htcinside.de/
says it will have 8g plus a micro sd slot.
But i wont be upgrading phones until i can get a larger processor and tv out at least. regardless of os

same hardware.... i was expecting a 1.5 snapdragon or something.... if that's the case wouldn't it be easier to port it to HD2?
THe only diff i see is the backend of the HD7 vs HD2. HD7 has a stand.. Can't someone just make a HD2 backplate with a stand, doesn't that = HD7?

Moschino02 said:
a very difficult choice between the hd7 and the desire HD imo
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not so difficult cuz the desire hd has a better gpu (adreno 205 instead of adreno 200)

m0bmentality said:
But i wont be upgrading phones until i can get a larger processor and tv out at least. regardless of os
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agree...da_g and few other devs working on WP7 port for hd2...so rather stick with that till i see some new hardware...the only things that would make me consider buying a new phone is slcd,new processor,better camera,tv out.
and the HD3/7 probably only has slcd...so 1/4 =

if thats the best they can do, i will stick with the HD2!

??Quad band UMTS
I wonder if it will be quad band UMTS as well as GSM, like iphone 4 - a true world phone. Would be nice

souljaboy said:
not so difficult cuz the desire hd has a better gpu (adreno 205 instead of adreno 200)
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the graphics drivers avaliable for windows is much more better than android , so with this old processor the hd3 will perform even better than the desire hd

I sincerely hope the hardware specs are a joke. Or HTC just wants to surprise us all with a bang. But if true, its not much of an upgrade from our beloved HD2. And I think that would be crazy.

As if I didn't hate apple enough already. Now they have driven M$ into forcing HTC into making crap devices with a locked down OS, non-expandable memory, and the mind-numbing loser-friendly approach where it doesn't matter how hi tech a device is; it only matters how well you can market it to the technotards that don't know what a microSD card is and think that facetime is a groundbreaking new technology that never existed until now...
Seriously though! It's looking more and more like the HD2 is the last phone I'm ever going to own...
/rant

looks like buying my hd2 back in november last year was the best ~500 euro i have ever spent...

antaed said:
looks like buying my hd2 back in november last year was the best ~500 euro i have ever spent...
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Yeah - couldn't agree more. So a year down the line they've decided to release pretty much the same phone.
I think my comment here covers my feelings...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news6256.html

HD2 -> Evo -> DesireHD -> HD3/7???
really sticking with a theme HTC they all basicly look the same with minor differences. just like.. oh yer iphone

I dont like the design.... I like HD2 better simple and doesnt look like it has been designed for like idk umm 2 weeks?

Same as HD2
Its true it the same spec as the hd2 with just windows mobile 7 so will we get a good port very quick = i think so yes

Faelok said:
It's looking more and more like the HD2 is the last phone I'm ever going to own...
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And the HD2 is the last HTC built WinMo 6.5 phone ever made. So sad to see things going the way of the ****Pho--------I mean iPhone.
antaed said:
looks like buying my hd2 back in november last year was the best ~500 euro i have ever spent...
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Damn right it was. I may have paid $489 for my phone, but it was sooo worth it in the end

HTC Evo 3D Sense

Hey,
just saw a video about the new HTC Evo 3D and it has some nice Sense-features:
New "Flyer" lockscreen
Homescreen transitions
Screen-off animation
So maybe we are getting those too?

it would be great to hv 3D sense on my DHD!!

I hope it wont drain the battery.

Is this the first dual/core device by HTC or am I living in stone age?

z0ltrix said:
Is this the first dual/core device by HTC or am I living in stone age?
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Yes, this is the first officially announced dualcore.

And may I add its ubeeeeeeeeeeer sexay!

lol..was just about to start thread on this, but thankfully someone alreddy has..
So any hope in someone picking up on this..the new sense rocks..more transparency throughout, better lockscreen, carousel view when scrolling through homescreens fast...me want

I hope this is the Sense we will get after update to Gingerbread. On the other hand, I dont care about the UI that much as about fixing the camera app which makes awful photos.
EDIT: ok, there is an unconfirmed rumour that Desire and DHD will get 2.3.3 but not 2.4, which is only for dual cores. not sure what it means towards this new Sense which was shown on a dual core phone. not that it wouldnt be ported soon after release by someone over here

2.4 is the merge between Honeycomb and Gingerbread...

I love the unlocking screen.
Must have ;w;

Oh wow that's a nice phone

Will buy only after rooting of course

I'm in love... I want it...

fortuneman said:
I hope this is the Sense we will get after update to Gingerbread. On the other hand, I dont care about the UI that much as about fixing the camera app which makes awful photos.
EDIT: ok, there is an unconfirmed rumour that Desire and DHD will get 2.3.3 but not 2.4, which is only for dual cores. not sure what it means towards this new Sense which was shown on a dual core phone. not that it wouldnt be ported soon after release by someone over here
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I think there's this Android version which will ensure compatibility between single core phones and dual core apps... I think this should be 2.4. Or is this already in 2.3.3?
3.1 should be one version for tablets and phones...

Diamondback2010 said:
I think there's this Android version which will ensure compatibility between single core phones and dual core apps... I think this should be 2.4. Or is this already in 2.3.3?
3.1 should be one version for tablets and phones...
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I think that the phone makers wouldnt want to miss the opportunity to draw a line between single cores and double cores as this is a major selling point for them. or at least they want it to be. so maybe 2.3.3 means basic compatibility and 2.4 extended double core bling bling.

The is the first phone to excite me since the DHD was released. Definitely something I'd consider when it comes to upgrade, although in 18 months when my upgrade is due I'll sure there will be something better.
Here's hoping HTC don't continue their current trend of locking down the bootloader.

CitizenLee said:
The is the first phone to excite me since the DHD was released. Definitely something I'd consider when it comes to upgrade, although in 18 months when my upgrade is due I'll sure there will be something better.
Here's hoping HTC don't continue their current trend of locking down the bootloader.
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Damn, never heard of that... If they are going the Motorola way they are loosing 70% of their customers I guess...

Diamondback2010 said:
Damn, never heard of that... If they are going the Motorola way they are loosing 70% of their customers I guess...
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Agreed.
"Hackability" is the reason my last two phones have been HTC.

Come to daddy
Nice phone indeed, but I guess I can still wait a bit, at least as long as I haven't got the rest out of my DHD yet ^^
But it's funny to see the cubic screen switching which the LauncherPro also supports. And indeed, the lockscreen looks pretty nice

Its a great phone and now the confusion starts EVO 3D or Pyramid

[Q] HD2 or Sensation?????

Comrades,
I am coming to the end of my contract just in time for the Sensation..
I love my HD2 (android) but a few wee things annoy me like low call voice (switched on and off speaker, only works for that call) and battery drain.
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.

Sensation obviously, but i would wait for the gsmversion of the evo3d(if that one still comes)

I was excited about the sensation coming to t mobile as well..........
Until I saw the specs of the SGS2 and sensation side by side.
I hate sense (on android) and touchwiz but when you look at the specs against one another its ridiculous...
HTC really dropped the ball with the sensation and to be honest you'd be better off getting the Sensation from T-mobile selling it, buying an HD2 and have some money left over
Either that or an SGS2 (27th may on Tmo)
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lol if I'd actually paid attention when reading your post I'd have seen that you already have an HD2...
If its the newer version of sense you want then you'd be better with the sensation as its going to have the extra RAM to deal with the memory hogging abomination that is HTC Sense.....
(I hate sense, in case you hadnt noticed)

robertsmith1873 said:
Comrades,
I am coming to the end of my contract just in time for the Sensation..
I love my HD2 (android) but a few wee things annoy me like low call voice (switched on and off speaker, only works for that call) and battery drain.
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
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Hi,
when I read your post,I went here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2828&id2=2842
Very little difference,apart from camera megapixels and RAM.
I,m erring on the side of Sensation,because of the camera...

Sensation hands down!

malybru said:
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Very little difference,apart from camera megapixels and RAM.
I,m erring on the side of Sensation,because of the camera...
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As a Photographer
I would not get too bothered with camera MP density. The Iphones camera is **** hot @ 5MP.
The EVO 3D sound good, more RAM and a friggin 3D screen………..but the back of it is ugly.
If you wait for the next phone to arrive you would never have a phone. LOL.

Personally I'm going to keep my HD2 going until I find out about the SGSII coming to T-Mobile. I'm also due an upgrade and I just don't know if I want to use it on the Sensation with the SGSII out there. Luckily my HD2 does everything I need so no rush here. Will probably wait to see them both in person in a couple months. SGSII should be ROM'd by then and we will know more about Sensation and if can be ROM'd.

robertsmith1873 said:
Comrades,
Is the DFT or other Android ROMs as fast and stable as the stock HTC rom?
I know the phone will be faster but it won’t be long until the XDA chaps crack the new ROM and I can put it on to the HD2.
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Well generally, custom roms are faster than stock roms. E.g. Our custom rom of the desire hd is faster than a desire hd running its stock rom. However seeing as the sensation is per say 2x the performance of the HD2, the sensation running on its stock rom will more likely be better than the HD2 running a custom rom based on the sensation.

dont know if the qHD 960x540 will be support in near future?
GS2 hardware is good with 1 gb ram, but dont how good is the GPU?

Yes the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.7 is fast,stable and next to boyppc-shiftpda gingersense.s v20 it is the best rom in my opinion

i know what you are going through... i love my HD2 but that Pyramid looks amazing in its own. What im doing is just keeping my HD2 and will put the ROM on it when a cook like Imilka figures out a nice port of it or the MyTouch 4G Slide ROM. Im always looking for the latest ROM on my phone and with the HD2 i can do that now. If i got the Pyramid I know i would be anxious for hacks to come for it. Once my HD2 craps out that would be my first choice because HTC makes a great phone, Im leary of Samsung because of all the update problems that happens with it so far on Tmo... Im actually trying out a EVO 3D ROM < Kingdom > now and its been running pretty smooth. Well hopefully this gives you some insight on your choice...

Lawl this update thing has become much too dramatic. xD
It's not samsung that's slowing down these updates or giving slow updates, it's the carriers. xD
Look at samsung, they released GB a month or two/three if you count the leaks. That's like the second or third phone to get GB officially, aside from the nexus one and nexus s? Which are google phones so of course they'd get it first. Samsung doesn't handle the updates for a T&t, verizon, sprint or t-mo, they don't. So they've done their job, it's all up to the carriers to finish this up.

thats only partially true..
the carriers do work with Samsung and Google to get out the updates but I work for Tmobile and its not an Over the Air Update on the Galaxy S phones. The updates are through a website that Samsung set up that you download it while synced to a pc and the updates so far have caused more bugs and headaches than they have been worth..
of course thats for peeps that wait for official updates, not for us who mod and use this site.
not saying by any means that its a horrible phone, just not my choice personally thats all...
everyone has thier own opinions and i have just always had great luck with HTC is all...

I would go for EVO 3D. Not only because it is better in everything compared to the Sensation and all that 3D bull****, but mostly because it looks fabulous. Best looking HTC ever in my opinion.

i would go for the Evo 3D aswell ,
apparently is will come to Europe , when it does , i'll be first in line to get 1

conantroutman said:
I was excited about the sensation coming to t mobile as well..........
Until I saw the specs of the SGS2 and sensation side by side.
I hate sense (on android) and touchwiz but when you look at the specs against one another its ridiculous...
HTC really dropped the ball with the sensation and to be honest you'd be better off getting the Sensation from T-mobile selling it, buying an HD2 and have some money left over
Either that or an SGS2 (27th may on Tmo)
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lol if I'd actually paid attention when reading your post I'd have seen that you already have an HD2...
If its the newer version of sense you want then you'd be better with the sensation as its going to have the extra RAM to deal with the memory hogging abomination that is HTC Sense.....
(I hate sense, in case you hadnt noticed)
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Also if you play games a Lot, then the Sensation is a better bet, the Adreno 220 is faster than the rest of the GPU's found in phones ...
regards.

Lawl where did you get that info bout the adreno 220 being faster?
The benchmarks of the 1.5ghz model? Mind you it's running a dual core 1.5 ghz, meaning two 1.5 ghz compared to a 1ghz/1.2ghz dual core. So what does that say?
Point being it was the 1.5 ghz model, not the 1.2ghz own, so we can't say which is better right now. Plus we have to remember the sgs 2 caps it's frame rate.
Anyways, as far as GPU's are concerned however, I'm pretty sure the power vr sgx543 is the best right now. Sad samsung didn't make that move.

Thanks chaps for your points, all valid.
SGS2 does look to have the hardware and i know i will up set myfellow Scot, but I LIKE SENCE...when i look at the screen it tells me what i need to know. then its back into the pocket..
I will now goto Tmob on 16th and haggle a free phone with more calls and data or threaten to leave..........wish me luck.
Thanks again.

Whats next....?

Hi, guys. Since arco's post whether there will be CM9 or not, which will be Android 4.0 in all its glare, for our precious and beloved device ive started to think about upgrading my phone to something more, let me say, powerful. To be honest this phone gave its best in a sense of a development and using new stuff which hits every day. We saw some pretty much good stuff on a little fire which none of us expected when first came here. There are at first Cyanogenmod,first 6 and now 7 which led us though great Gingerbread experience till its latest version 2.3.7. In one word CM was the beginner of everything that was happening around here in pas year and little more, than we saw some nice themes and they juiced up our phone a little more to our taste. Than there is better camera recording, overclocking. I should at first say root, but never mind, than came AlpharevX with its s-off. Well, not to make it long, there were a lot of nice moments. And as for me ive learned a lot, so thank to everyone who helped me in any way.
But like any other device out there and this one will come to an end of its development era. So, the question is it time for retirement? What would be your next ride? Im thinking about Sensation or EVO 3D, that is if i collect enough money Anyway, ill still be here for some time. Please, share your thoughts...
Best regards, zexcrazy

I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.

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I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
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You are right about everything you said, but Wildfire is my first andrid device and im somehow sentimentally bounded to HTC, but well you never know where the road can take me. I though about SGS, as a cheaper solution (price is a important asspet in my case, for now). One thing is sure im not going to take LG as i had few bad experiences with them in past.
And you are right about SGN, they made few poor moves with graphic chip and 5mp camera, but i recon Samsung is saving its strenght for SGS III.

I get what you are saying, and, even I would definitely like my next device to be an HTC (More so, because companies like Samsung and LG, they are essentially consumer goods entities - the air conditioners at my college are by Samsung, the refrigerator at my place is by LG, and so on, and, this fact is what comes first to mind when you say companies like Samsung and LG, but, HTC is just that - a 'specialist' smartphone manufacturer), but, I am somehow forcing myself to see beyond their brand value and look at better alternatives for the same price. (As you put - Price comes first)

I will definetly stay with the Wildfire for a couple of months more. Now i have the new stable Version and everything runs smooth and fast. I don't need faster devices, i like it how it is right now. Maybe i will buy some new in the future if there is enough money, but i havent thought about it yet.

There will be CM9 for the Wildfire.
I'm an optimist.
If not... I will probably buy the G2X or Sensation. G2X more likely for the price. Or a Nexus S? Who knows, I'll discuss that with my wallet.
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I get my up grade December. So I was thinking sensation or gs2 but not sure witch 1 to go for been looking at both now for the last month
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My contract ends in 2 years, hopefully optus lets me upgrade before then lol (or else I'll threaten them :L), I have no idea what phones will be out by then but I think I'll stick with samsung, there phones are so much fun lol, or maybe htc if they release anything good
If I still had my wildfire I prob would've upgraded to the sgs2.
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My bro is upgrading his phone soon to sgs2, think ill take over his sgi9000 for cheap or even free if you read this, brotherly love. lol I'll give it the life it should be having flash flash and more flashing.......
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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.

I agree the Wildfire and its successor are great My First Androids, but my next phone will likely be a Samsung too even if that would mean it's the same brand as my microwave oven. However, at the moment I'd rather buy a Motorola Xoom and "degrade" my Wildfire to "just a phone" for the time being. Xoom + extra battery for Wildfire (gotta keep that access point running) is cheaper then buying the Galaxy Nexus plus when an ICS phone hits the stores I can still extend my current plan for 2 years to get it.

arco68 said:
I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
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Please stick with the Wildfire, there has to be a way to port effin ICS.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.

Galaxy W is pretty decent upgrade and as for me it much more reachable than some of the flagship devices i am dreaming of.
Ill stick to a Wildfire for some time, but the day will come sooner or later.
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henkdv said:
Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
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I wouldnt agree. They said that ics will be able to run on any device whic was able to run Gingerbread. So if we take official gingerbred suported phones there is Wildfire S which has 600Mhz processor. So its not true that it requires dual core.
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I reckon the wildfire has about 6 to 12 months more left in it. Oath it has been where no one thought it would go. First got the official support from HTC (finally!). Everyone really wanted it and foolishly upgraded changing the bootloader/hboot. That is where I went, I foolishly upgraded then met xda. Seeing so many things happen and I really wanted a custom rom. It started with the urge of really wanting live wallpapers then it grew from there. Waiting for a software s-off, I stood optimistic that one was "coming" even though so many said it wouldn't happen and that the only way would be to use the hardware tool XTC clip. Waiting for so long I managed to get my hands on AlphaRevX. My phone being a locked phone on telstra it was loaded with the custom carrier hboot 02 instead of 01. Alpharev refused to work on these custom hboots so I stood on freenode until a dev came online and managed to hack up a telstra s-off hboot for me to test. I managed to get my s-off with it but by then alpharev team dropped support of hboot 02 because they would have to hack every hboot for different carriers. I soon began to flash roms and read up on all the nice roms. I tried CM7 but hated it because of the interface, I managed to fall in love with the sense interface and couldn't get away from it. I found the sense 2.1 rom and waited for it to get more stable but it was discontinued so I took over. I built my knowledge and now I am working on the rom SenseOnFire. So thats my story. I think the wildfire isn't its time yet and there are so many fantastic devs around here that don't and won't give up on this device just yet. The CM team will be able to hack up something for this device I just know it. Just think before the wildfire got official froyo no one would of thought it would ever run gingerbread.

I`ll upgrade in about an year or so, but I won`t buy a phone with a screen larger than 3.5 inches. Maybe a 3.7 of the bezel is small enough. I don`t like ping-pong paddle type of phones.
500th post, yay

I like big screens. 4 inch would be ideal for me.
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Gingerbread will probably run on a T-Mobile G1. Google never said "any", they said "most". The Wildfire also lacks a GPU so ICS on a Wildfire wouldn't look the same as ICS on a Nexus either.
And I agree with Alex_GP, overly large form factors are a modern reminder of those old clunky phones from 2 decades ago. The Desire S seems nice in this regard, a little bit thinner and a little bit less wide but also just a bit taller to accommodate an HVGA(!) screen. But then it has that annoying capacitive search button which always fires at the wrong moment when held in a right hand. So I guess I'll wait for an updated version of the Samsung Galaxy Ace and hope it's not as slow/fast as an overclocked Wildfire.

I think I'm going for the HTC Sensation XE.
Since I got the Wildfire, I realized that pixels ARE important (atleast for me) so qHD will be perfect for me.
4,3 inch is also perfect. Not too big, or too small. (my bro has desire HD so I kind of know how big it is).
The XE is just a beautiful beast
And luckily HTC said that it'll get ICS.
I'm not sure when I'll upgrade, but I guess soon. Maybe next week or something..
Can't stand the ldpi thing and the slow performance..
But will keep my Wildfire as a backup device.
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