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We Need to Port the Desire ROM (once rooted)

I hope that once we have this rooted, we will be able to flash the Desire ROM. I'm sick at my stomach knowing that we are missing the wonderful News (RSS) widget and even a few others.

The desire is not a CDMA phone.
Make more sense to just port the app you want and much more realistic.

sure. if someone can port a widget.
Could you modify the ROM to work with the Qualcomm CDMA processor?

If you root it you won't be able to get the FROYO 2.2 upgrade. Can't be installed on rooted phones.
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Ruben1123 said:
I hope that once we have this rooted, we will be able to flash the Desire ROM. I'm sick at my stomach knowing that we are missing the wonderful News (RSS) widget and even a few others.
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If we had root, and if we could write to /system/, then we could push the widget to the phone and be done with it. It should not require a whole ROM port to accomplish. We already have the file (com.htc.NewsReaderWidget.apk), however we cannot install/push it to the phone.
jbh00jh said:
If you root it you won't be able to get the FROYO 2.2 upgrade. Can't be installed on rooted phones.
Sent from my Droid Incredible with Tapatalk Pro
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A rooted phone might be locked out from an *official* update to 2.2, but the community would have that sorted out in a matter of hours once there was an official update to build off of. Anyways, until we do get root, that discussion is pretty much moot.

Thank you! Can't wait.

askwhy said:
If we had root, and if we could write to /system/, then we could push the widget to the phone and be done with it. It should not require a whole ROM port to accomplish. We already have the file (com.htc.NewsReaderWidget.apk), however we cannot install/push it to the phone.
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If there's an apk floating around, why couldn't it just be installed?
Also, rooted phones can run 2.2, I have no idea where you're getting that from.

x.v_ said:
If there's an apk floating around, why couldn't it just be installed?
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Because you cannot install some .apk without permission to write to /system/app/ which we do not have. Want to try? It's attached. You will get "Application not installed" and if you try to adb push it, well, where are you going to put it? You cannot write to /system/app/ and you cannot write to /data/app/, so if you know another way...
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Also, rooted phones can run 2.2, I have no idea where you're getting that from.
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Of course they can run it. First of all, it was another poster who said they could not -- and they didn't even really say they couldn't 'run' it, just said unambiguously that they couldn't install it -- which in hindsight was probably referring to the same manual update engadget discusses, linked below. Second, my suggestion that the upgrade *might* not be *officially* supported on a rooted phone was just a logical possibility in my mind when I said it, but may have actually turned out to be the case:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/22/android-2-2-froyo-manual-update-found-now-available-for-non-roo/
EDIT: and also here is Paul with things all community-flavored already (pre-rooted update.zip for n1):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631

jbh00jh said:
If you root it you won't be able to get the FROYO 2.2 upgrade. Can't be installed on rooted phones.
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Says who?
Update: Guess many others already set this comment straight. Sorry to be redundant

[Q] Any way to Get root Back?

I just rooted my phone the other day and of course the night I go out and leave the phone at home the g/f has to use my phone. Well it said OTA and she thought it was something I didn't finish and, yup u guessed it she gave me the update. I lost root as you know and now is there any way for me to get root back at this point?. I have a HTC Espresso 3g slide with T-Mobile and any help would be appreciated a lot. I was all set to do my ROM today and now this. Go Figure...

Not At this time no.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

i forgot where i read this, but i read in theory that the Droid X method to root should work on any previous android phones, jus needs to be changed for the phone..
This method i did use for my N1 and it worked great! some one was able to make it work for the n1 hopefully some can do the same for the Slide

I looked into this method and yes it should work I have the files and ill upload them and post them in a new thread and see if we can get it to work.
I works off of some exploit in the working android system to trick the device into trusting the su and superuser.apk and busybox as android systems files and installing them, has to do with bluetooth and wifi exploit it least that's what I understood
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Armyjon88 said:
I looked into this method and yes it should work I have the files and ill upload them and post them in a new thread and see if we can get it to work.
I works off of some exploit in the working android system to trick the device into trusting the su and superuser.apk and busybox as android systems files and installing them, has to do with bluetooth and wifi exploit it least that's what I understood
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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I really need this too, since i updated.

Ace42 said:
I really need this too, since i updated.
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Ace I have a quick question if I may. Since I didn't RoM my phone before it was updated I was curious if you just lost root or did it put you back to stock 2.1 - update1? I am new to this and any place I can learn a few things I try to. We all had to start someplace

Suntar said:
Ace I have a quick question if I may. Since I didn't RoM my phone before it was updated I was curious if you just lost root or did it put you back to stock 2.1 - update1? I am new to this and any place I can learn a few things I try to. We all had to start someplace
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It was already on stock firmware, i manually updated my phone since i was having trouble rooting it. It wouldnt say offline in rec mode, but i tried it after the update with a new sd card and it says offline now...But it doesnt matter since root is blocked anyway..

Ace42 said:
It was already on stock firmware, i manually updated my phone since i was having trouble rooting it. It wouldnt say offline in rec mode, but i tried it after the update with a new sd card and it says offline now...But it doesnt matter since root is blocked anyway..
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Well I have been looking everywhere looking for a fix for this and it seems right now that you and I are the only ones that this has happened too. I'm sure there are others. Just for a lack of something to do I have been trying all sorts of things but nothing has worked so far. If I find a fix I will post it here to help out of course. Sooner or later someone will come up with one since all the phones being sold now or people that haven't rooted yet will need new root.zip files I would think.

Armyjon88 said:
I looked into this method and yes it should work I have the files and ill upload them and post them in a new thread and see if we can get it to work.
I works off of some exploit in the working android system to trick the device into trusting the su and superuser.apk and busybox as android systems files and installing them, has to do with bluetooth and wifi exploit it least that's what I understood
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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YUP this method would be great!, but to let you know this method does not fully install BusyBOX! learned this yesterday lol
when your in terminal or adb shell and do "cp" cmd it will give you not found.. but i found this script to fully install it after root
http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/07/07/android-hack-how-to-install-busybox-on-your-android/
if you wanted to do a "cp cmd" you would have to do "busybox cp"

I just posted a hot to in dev section that will walk you thru downgrading and easy root vs loop method.

[Q] A noob proof way to flash custom ROMs

As we know, now we have a clockworkmod port for our Desire HD. It is fully functional and working. It is an awesome thing to be able to flash a custom rom and kernels onto our device.
but the question is, will there be a one click solution or a simpler way to have a custom recovery without downgrading to ENG hboot like now is required to push a custom recovery onto our device..
- will Desire HD have a total ROM Manager support as in just install clockworkmod recovery via ROM Manager like HTC Desire and others?
- or will there be something like Unrevoked where its a one click of having a total free custom recovery onto our device..
the issue is, not everyone is smart enough to perform the risky hboot downgrade and pushing clockwork manually.. a simpler solution would be very handy. This is so that newcommers could just root via Visionary perma root and then sorta like download rom manager via market and then just install CWM without downgrading hboot
Thanks for your answers

I doubt it very much....maybe rom manager will recognised the
DHD from default.
A clockwork app mmm usful..
But again I cant see it..
Root
S 0FF
Android SDK
Fastboot/adb shell
Clockwork
Thats the way I went...I do agree that an easier method would help the newbies..
What is needed is an all in one app - Now that would be fun to build..
I think the Devs are far to busy with custom roms and kernels hahaha
Not as Im complaining...
We'll see...

rixsta said:
I doubt it very much....maybe rom manager will recognised the
DHD from default.
A clockwork app mmm usful..
But again I cant see it..
Root
S 0FF
Android SDK
Fastboot/adb shell
Clockwork
Thats the way I went...I do agree that an easier method would help the newbies..
What is needed is an all in one app - Now that would be fun to build..
I think the Devs are far to busy with custom roms and kernels hahaha
Not as Im complaining...
We'll see...
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btw, why does clockwork needs to be pushed rather than like previously a device (htc desire) clockworkmod can be installed via using rom manager directly.. is it that rom manager still dosent support Desire HD?
true indeed, a click by click software that automates like unrevoked would be very handy.. afterall.. not everyone is an advanced user to perform those brick risking methods

I also wish an easyer way was possible as I really want to push a custom Rom and kernal but just a kernal will do for me. Is there any you tube videos that show you step by step to put a kernal on dhd? If not would some1 find the time to do this? This would help newbies like myself to feel more comfortable.
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override182 said:
btw, why does clockwork needs to be pushed rather than like previously a device (htc desire) clockworkmod can be installed via using rom manager directly.. is it that rom manager still dosent support Desire HD?
true indeed, a click by click software that automates like unrevoked would be very handy.. afterall.. not everyone is an advanced user to perform those brick risking methods
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Yes that right,no support yet, its early days and Im sure things will get easier as time goes by.

rixsta said:
Yes that right,no support yet, its early days and Im sure things will get easier as time goes by.
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or is it that clockworkmod really need an engineering bootloader to work on desire HD.. i really hope that there would be a simpler way..

What's the noob friendliest way to just remove some stock apps (amazon,sound hound,Twitter,etc)? I reckon I need to do a root at least, but can't seem to work out what else I need to do. Cheers.

Mojo Fones said:
What's the noob friendliest way to just remove some stock apps (amazon,sound hound,Twitter,etc)? I reckon I need to do a root at least, but can't seem to work out what else I need to do. Cheers.
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use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions

Excellent, thank you very much.

override182 said:
use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
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I have a feeling you need clockwork recovery too...

override182 said:
use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
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Worked perfectly with just a temp root, oh sorry for the hijacking override.

Mojo Fones said:
Worked perfectly with just a temp root, oh sorry for the hijacking override.
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happy to see it worked out for you.. its ok mate.. no big deal at all..

rixsta said:
I have a feeling you need clockwork recovery too...
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No, permaroot via visionary and titanium backup as removal will work fine without CW, beware though take apps out of your /system folder may cause future OTA upgrades to fail when they try and upgrade apps that are no longer present

ghostofcain said:
No, permaroot via visionary and titanium backup as removal will work fine without CW, beware though take apps out of your /system folder may cause future OTA upgrades to fail when they try and upgrade apps that are no longer present
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indeed.. i almost forgot about that...
this thread is dying

Not ony that, I do recall having read that removing those system apps does not give you free space to use, so there is no big reason why you should do it....
On topic:
I have my DHD now for a couple of weeks.....never had android before....I had overclocked my DHD when kamma released one of his kernels and visionary temp root was available It worked fine.
Now I have been out for 1,5 week and just continued reading again the day before yesterday.
I must say, I do read the topic I am interested in completely, so (almost) every post, just to get a feeling of potential issues or get some idea of what to do, if...
So although I am new to android, the great threats in the developer forum have given me a reasonable understanding of what to do, how to do it, and what risk there is.
With that, I have perm rooted my DHD, got S-off, installed clockwork mod and flashed leedroid's rom on my DHD. All done yesterday and the day before, without problem.
Am now considering if I will OC again of just leave it as is for now....
just read carefully, don;t just take the 1st post in the dev section, but read through the topic to understand potential issues....The topic creator is in now way responsible for you not reading properly or failing to understand the implications.
But Yes, a one click solution would be handy, although I prefer to have it done this way, as I now have a little better understanding of what actually happens, rather than, hey, I flashed this rom ...

paulus_01 said:
Not ony that, I do recall having read that removing those system apps does not give you free space to use, so there is no big reason why you should do it....
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if you remove those system apps, won't it help in booting up the phone faster? and probably save some memory that would be taken up with those useless apps?

lukesky said:
if you remove those system apps, won't it help in booting up the phone faster? and probably save some memory that would be taken up with those useless apps?
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I think you'll see little to no improvement at all...

For me, I used the 'freeze' option in Titanium rather than uninstalling them. It makes my apps menu tidier, and there must be at least a slight improvement in speed as less stuff is running in the background now.

so guys, do you think anyone will come out with a simpler way to flash custom rom soon?

Gingerbread? ETA?

When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?

xamadeix said:
When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?
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I'd imagine not for a while. It hasn't even been a month since it came out yet. I'm sure we will see it at some point in the next few months. I hope...

CM7 is being built from source in the dev forum. Gingerbread is technically out for the G2, just not officially. CM7 is better than anything T-mo will push out to us though.
Edit: Spelling errors..

But wasn't there some stuff that broke with CM6?
Like wifi calling or something, I don't remember...

Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]

Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.

xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Then why the worry about Gingerbread??

cwirth7 said:
Then why the worry about Gingerbread??
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I'm guessing he wants to know when the official HTC Gingerbread releases. The one with Sense... Ugh.
My guess is in 2-3 months. I hope HTC are quick with this one. (Not that I will use it, atleast not a sense rom. I would go as far as Sense without rosie.)

The G2 doesn't use sense UI. Only the Desire Z does.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.

hoffreaper said:
Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.
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No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"

KoolKidsKlub said:
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"
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That's because the roms nd UIs built here are more customizable and enable features not available through stock roms...like wirless calling, rooting, it just gives more control. And yes! MIUI is awessomeee...my fav. Probably because it has everything I need.
Sent from HTC Desire Z using XDA App

Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.

If one of the htc product that has sense comes out with gingerbread, I'm sure many chef will port it, including to desire z

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Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Check the Development section. Rooting's easy and it's the first thing I did with my phone.

luis86dr said:
Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Does video playback work? Because that's the only remaining bug on GingerVillain.

Abra_Cadabra said:
Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.
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Did you ever bother to consider the fact that you have a smartphone? That means that you can install any email client that you want. If the default android email client doesn't have the features you want, INSTALL A DIFFERENT ONE!!!

KoolKidsKlub said:
No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
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You're being a little harsh there. In fact, visionary has never bricked a single phone EVER. What it can do, under some circumstances, is corrupt the system partition, which is TRIVIAL to repair. Especially since the first step after visionary is to gfree it.
ALL THAT VISIONARY IS, IS A TEMPROOT.
The reason why it can cause issues is that you can end up in a state where you are synchronizing a broken filesystem cache with the root filesystem. That is all. This is NOT a brick.
The ONLY known bricked VISION was produced by scotty2 while trying out a radio command that repartitioned the eMMC and broke the radio. Visionary has NOT bricked even ONE phone.

Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

JuiceHD2 said:
Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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Uninstall Visionary and use either rage or gfree.

Need to root brand new G2 w/o ADB (im on a mac)

So I just got my replacement G2 from T-mo and it's brand new so it's running 2.3.3 and I need to root it. I tried using visionary to temp root so I could run gfree to perm root but the phone freezes every time I try to temproot. Can anyone give me any tips or teach me how to use adb on a mac.

pak256 said:
So I just got my replacement G2 from T-mo and it's brand new so it's running 2.3.3 and I need to root it. I tried using visionary to temp root so I could run gfree to perm root but the phone freezes every time I try to temproot. Can anyone give me any tips or teach me how to use adb on a mac.
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http://tinyurl.com/39yhu2z
that would be how you use adb on a mac....
but i dont think there is a rooting method for 2.3 yet

crap, I really need to get root back on my phone too. I did a backup using rom manager and i would really like to restore my everything.

Please search before posting new threads. Most questions you have can most likely be answered in one of the stickies.

thanks for the non help. I did search and they isn't anything in the stickies about rooting the g2 with gb on it, but hey thanks for helping your fellow enthusiast

pak256 said:
crap, I really need to get root back on my phone too. I did a backup using rom manager and i would really like to restore my everything.
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Wait, how is it that you lost root, and yet you were using ROM Manager? Can't you just boot into recovery and flash a rooted ROM?

I didn't lose root, I had another g2 and it crapped out on me but I made a backup of the rom and want to restore it on my new g2 but I'm having trouble figuring out how to root it with 2.3.3. I tried to use adb but every time I try to run the android sdk i get an error

I thought GB wasnt available on the G2 yet??? I got my G2 last week and it's running 2.2...

pak256 said:
thanks for the non help. I did search and they isn't anything in the stickies about rooting the g2 with gb on it, but hey thanks for helping your fellow enthusiast
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No need to be a ****... GB isn't even available OTA to users, so theres a very small chance that there's a root method for something that hasn't come out yet...
btw ADB on Mac is pretty easy to set up. but as far as rooting 2.2 goes, you didn't need ADB to do it, which saves you the hassle of setting up the SDK and using Terminal if you're not feeling confident with it. I'm sure once they figure out rooting 2.3, the same will probably be true soon enough.
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I thought GB wasnt available on the G2 yet??? I got my G2 last week and it's running 2.2...
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Some people are getting refurb/repair units back with 2.3, because 2.3 is close to coming in OTA format for the G2 from most reports.

I'm aware that most people don't have gb yet, that's why I figured I would ask for help as opposed to just searching the forums, I had my 2.2 g2 rooted no prob and once i found a decent tutorial then yeah I did realize that adb is supposed to be easy on mac. I'm having an issue with getting the sdk running, I can navigate to the folder in Terminal but when I try to run "android" i get a ton of errors

pak256 said:
I'm aware that most people don't have gb yet, that's why I figured I would ask for help as opposed to just searching the forums, I had my 2.2 g2 rooted no prob and once i found a decent tutorial then yeah I did realize that adb is supposed to be easy on mac. I'm having an issue with getting the sdk running, I can navigate to the folder in Terminal but when I try to run "android" i get a ton of errors
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Hi !
The new T-Mobile 2.3.3 stock gingerbread rom is not rootable at the moment.
We currently do not have a temp-root method for it. The old methods (rage, psneuter and also gingerbreak) do not work as the exploits they where using have been patched.
At the moment you have to wait for someone to disclose a new gingerbread exploit.
Have fun - Guhl

thanks, hopefully something will come along soon because being on a stock rom is killing me

pak256 said:
thanks for the non help. I did search and they isn't anything in the stickies about rooting the g2 with gb on it, but hey thanks for helping your fellow enthusiast
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If you expect to get any respect or help through these forums you would be wise to hold your tongue and not dismiss the help you do receive.

I don't think 2.2.1 was even rooted so I doubt 2.3.3 would be. Cant you downgrade?

why dont you sell your phone on ebay.. and buy a g2 or desire z with 2.2 or thats already rooted?? you wont have to wait then

This guide was the best thing that ever happened to me when I was setting up ADB on my Mac.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Now all I have to do is plug my phone in and enter whatever adb commands I want. No changing directories and all that. It was very helpful.

Your first step should be to buy a PC.