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Loaded 2.1 Rooted/Not any more

Just curious how many people loaded the 2.1 Update and have now lost root. How many of you loaded a variant of the Official 2.1 and still have root?
Anyone still on 1.5?

Currently still running AOSP 1.6, but going to hop over to Darchdroid, once Drachstar has fixed a few minor issues.

gu1dry said:
Currently still running AOSP 1.6, but going to hop over to Darchdroid, once Drachstar has fixed a few minor issues.
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I'm running Darchdroid too. It's running smooth as a baby's buttox.

I flashed Fresh 2.1.1 on Monday. It's based off the leaked Sprint 2.1. Works great. I have root.

I'm on Regaw's latest ROM. Running smooth and skippy.
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Fresh 2.1 and I lost root. Es file always let me hit back to get to the root files and when I flashed 2.1 I can't do that. Not even on my cpu. I think I'm gonna run over my phone and turn it in on insurance. Free phone. And if I wait enough I could get an EVO.
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dukeoflbg said:
Fresh 2.1 and I lost root. Es file always let me hit back to get to the root files and when I flashed 2.1 I can't do that. Not even on my cpu. I think I'm gonna run over my phone and turn it in on insurance. Free phone. And if I wait enough I could get an EVO.
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It comes with root. If you lost root, you need to reflash.

dukeoflbg said:
Fresh 2.1 and I lost root. Es file always let me hit back to get to the root files and when I flashed 2.1 I can't do that.
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Do you have superuser whitelist installed? The only way to lose root is to flash the official HTC/Sprint RUU. Es was updated in 2.1, so it may just be a difference in version. I don't believe Es will request root anyway, try downloading Root Explorer. The quickest way to check if you have root is to run a terminal emulator and type su.

Kcarpenter said:
Just curious how many people loaded the 2.1 Update and have now lost root.
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The simple fact that this number is > 0 baffles me...why would anyone be a member on this site if they didn't care about root

tstack77 said:
The simple fact that this number is > 0 baffles me...why would anyone be a member on this site if they didn't care about root
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They don't know any better.

On one of my phones I run the latest ruu and obviously don't have root on the other running fresh 2.od with updates and I have root

WTF? 11 of you!?!?!?!

thatguythatdid said:
On one of my phones I run the latest ruu and obviously don't have root on the other running fresh 2.od with updates and I have root
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I'm not trying to be offensive, I simply don't understand the benefit of not having root. Why did you not root your other hero?

Kcarpenter said:
WTF? 11 of you!?!?!?!
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Could be worse. Those 11 could have started threads *****ing and moaning as to why they don't have root and for someone to fix it now.
I only recall one thread asking about root but wasn't complaining.

UR so funny.
I took the plunge when the first leak came out after seeing ALL the posts about what if and why for's.
I stated then that I would run the RUU and then try to root.
I tried three (3) ways and it didn't work.
I posted the results HUGE and big for those asking why and when.
I took one for the TEAM so to speak and am willing to wait for a new root without crying about it.
Push comes to shove I buy a new phone if I need it that bad.
So the number of 11 doesn't really seem all that out of line as others did in fact run the RUU before anyone made an effort to actually attempt it and have verifiable results.

tstack77 said:
I'm not trying to be offensive, I simply don't understand the benefit of not having root. Why did you not root your other hero?
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Okay this is hard for some people to understand but if you got two phones all to yourself and you don't care what happens to one. It would be of great benefit to the community if you leave one unrooted so when someone needs a beta tester to test whether or not a new root procedure works I'm here to help them beta test the procedure. Plus I wanted to test a couple things out that could only be done if I flashed the 2.1 ruu not to be confused with rom.

WOW, seriously, all of you ran the RUU?
afma_afma, bkplante, bubbacs1, dhinez, HotrodHG, kwbunn, matthewman3, NeoFL, rockcrawler, ThatGuyFromSprint, vortex91, yfernandez

yup...i did....
regaw_leinad said:
WOW, seriously, all of you ran the RUU?
afma_afma, bkplante, bubbacs1, dhinez, HotrodHG, kwbunn, matthewman3, NeoFL, rockcrawler, ThatGuyFromSprint, vortex91, yfernandez
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Got sick of dicking around with different ROMS. Plus this thing is going on Craigslist soon for an Evo. /shrug

regaw_leinad said:
WOW, seriously, all of you ran the RUU?]
i got 4 heros on family plans. moms/dads are not rooted so yup i got them on official 2.1
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Un-Root my Hero

I need to take my Hero back to factory specs because I'm taking it into a sprint store tomorrow. What all do I need to do... should I just flash my original rom back on there or can I download a rom from htc and it will clear everything? I understand I need to flash a new recovery image too.
Thanks
oh also, I'm running FreshRom.

nautical34 said:
I need to take my Hero back to factory specs because I'm taking it into a sprint store tomorrow. What all do I need to do... should I just flash my original rom back on there or can I download a rom from htc and it will clear everything? I understand I need to flash a new recovery image too.
Thanks
oh also, I'm running FreshRom.
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You can flash the original rom back on there and be fine. They wont EVER press Home+power and boot into recovery.
If you really want to go back to default.. Run this RUU
http://outboundlink.us/anxo/dr_ta_1.../2uQunBaV/RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2276515_R_si.html

Running the sprint 2.1 update will un-root your phone.
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neuro_genesis said:
Running the sprint 2.1 update will un-root your phone.
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Its not the sprint update.. thats the .5 ruu

Thanks for the link, that worked out great!

Jus10o said:
Its not the sprint update.. thats the .5 ruu
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Actually newest ruu is .6 I think

after you run this can you re-root?. im new to android and i want to be able to restore to factory settings whenever after root just so i can re-root and practice it, as well as know how to fix it if i do something stupid or just brick the darn thing.
like i said im new and not good with forums where can i get a copy of the original rom? i would like to have that before i attempt to root.
also kinda off topic but do i have to be rooted to make nanoid backup. i would also like to have that before i root.

proman95 said:
after you run this can you re-root?. im new to android and i want to be able to restore to factory settings whenever after root just so i can re-root and practice it, as well as know how to fix it if i do something stupid or just brick the darn thing.
like i said im new and not good with forums where can i get a copy of the original rom? i would like to have that before i attempt to root.
also kinda off topic but do i have to be rooted to make nanoid backup. i would also like to have that before i root.
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Yes you can re-root after running the .5 RUU
the original rom is contained in the RUU program linked above
You don't have to be rooted to make a nandroid backup, though you do need to flash a custom recovery image. Being rooted means that you basically have administrator access on your phone, can run things like wifi tether and can overwrite the /system/ folder. A recovery image is a little different than that...

ok thanks, i know root is just admin, but a lot of root guides have you flash a recovery image, by doing that you replace the original recovery image? the one that takes you back to factory reset? thats what im not sure about and im really nervous about changing that and messing it up and bricking my device, thought one forum said its almost imposable to brick.
ok so i have that RUU and another one i download. do i just run it or do i need to have a specific program on my pc?
i know i need to Google it and just search the forums but i don't have a lot of time on my hands right now.

If you're planning on going back to root, don't run the .6 RUU. I don't think it's rootable. At least that was the case when it came out. .5 IS rootable.

vidsid said:
If you're planning on going back to root, don't run the .6 RUU. I don't think it's rootable. At least that was the case when it came out. .5 IS rootable.
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how do you determine what version the RUU is?

proman95 said:
i know i need to Google it and just search the forums but i don't have a lot of time on my hands right now.
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I am seriously sure it wouldn't hurt to type a couple words into a search query, right? At least people helped you out though. Good luck!
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proman95 said:
how do you determine what version the RUU is?
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Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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jerry43812 said:
Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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Well you still can't root .6 but all you need to do is flash .5. So yeah I don't know why people are making a big deal either
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Exactly. .6 isn't rootable yet but you are losing nothing by flashing back to .5 except for the patch they released to fix root exploit. What a waste of time for them.
cp0020 said:
Well you still can't root .6 but all you need to do is flash .5. So yeah I don't know why people are making a big deal either
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jerry43812 said:
I am seriously sure it wouldn't hurt to type a couple words into a search query, right? At least people helped you out though. Good luck!
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thats the thing though most of my search's come up with nothing or so much stuff that its all over the place and dose not help at all, believe me I am trying. I am vary interested in learning as much as i can so when I have to to root/ or flash i can do it easily.
(thats why I don't post that much, I am trying not to sounds like an idiot, thought i probably already have)
jerry43812 said:
Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
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But thats after you run the RUU.exe I meant how do you know what version of the RUU.exe coincides with what version of the software with out installing or running it. I am still a little confused on what I need to do with the RUU.exe and or what it dose. I have been searching the forums but there is not a Good sticky or wiki about it, its only the definition. I am assuming it re-installs a fresh copy of whatever that version of the OS is, but i don't know for sure.
jerry43812 said:
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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sorry I am such a noob and thanks for the help but i just want to clarify that .6 stands for 1.6 or donut?
-Thanks for helping the noob!!!

2.27.651.5 is the original Hero update.
2.27.651.6 is the update that was released solely to disable the ability to root.
The RUU for each was released by Sprint/HTC and flashed your phone from 1.5 to 2.whatever.
If you root, then you can run any of these to revert back to the stock Sprint image. If you chose to go to 2.27.651.6 then the only way to re-root would be to flash back to 2.27.651.5 which would only be a pain in the bum.
Since 2.27.651.6 gives you nothing but the inability to root then it only makes sense to revert to .5.
If this makes no sense to you...feel free to give up on rooting altogether. If it does then good luck.
BTW I only figured out how to root on Monday so these forums are most excellent..if you take the time to search through them.

Thanks its starting to make sense, right now I'm software 2.1 update 1 or 2.6 so i just have to go back to 2.5 . once i have more time i will thanks for the explanation! yes this site is the best and yes i need to search more.

Updated to 2.2, how do you know if you're still rooted ??

Guys,
Thanks for the help in fixing my camera issues !!
My next question is, am I still rooted once I updated to 2.2 ?? The Market doesnt seem as extensive as it was when I was rooted on 2.1
I am pretty new at all this stuff, how can you tell if your rooted on 2.2, and if I'm not, how can I properly root it again ??

Vinman18 said:
My next question is, am I still rooted once I updated to 2.2 ?? The Market doesnt seem as extensive as it was when I was rooted on 2.1
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root and Market are not related. You need to change your phone fingerprint to the Nexus 1 to show all the protected applications again as Google does not recognize the DK28 fingerprint.
However, you need to be rooted to edit the file. See the following thread for the fingerprint. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848778
I am pretty new at all this stuff, how can you tell if your rooted on 2.2, and if I'm not, how can I properly root it again ??
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One way to check is to open up a terminal and type "su"
To get root back, use the one click installer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388

Or flash a Tom to get all the apps. If you want to find out if your rooted just download titanium from the market. As soon as you open it it will say asking for root rights.
Sent from my Evo Killer!

ok, here comes the idiot question of the night....
is there any way to root my phone, without having to use a computer to download any files ??
When my friend originally rooted my phone when I was on 2.1, he didnt have to use a computer, he was able to do it right on the phone itself (not sure what he did, tbh)

Vinman18 said:
ok, here comes the idiot question of the night....
is there any way to root my phone, without having to use a computer to download any files ??
When my friend originally rooted my phone when I was on 2.1, he didnt have to use a computer, he was able to do it right on the phone itself (not sure what he did, tbh)
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Z4root
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mysteryemotionz said:
Z4root
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thanks for the info, thats what I had on the phone before (I remember the app)
unfortunately, I cant find it in my market

Yes, z4root is no longer on the market, but you can download the APK here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953

Vinman18 said:
My next question is, am I still rooted once I updated to 2.2 ?? The Market doesnt seem as extensive as it was when I was rooted on 2.1
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To tell if you're rooted - install an app like Titanium Backup, which needs root to function properly. If you're not rooted, there won't be access to the market.
For root if you've lost it, your best option may be to install a custom ROM, which are usually pre-rooted. Besides, most custom ROMS are better than what comes stock. Which custom ROM will depend on your needs.

Gingerbread? ETA?

When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?

xamadeix said:
When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?
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I'd imagine not for a while. It hasn't even been a month since it came out yet. I'm sure we will see it at some point in the next few months. I hope...

CM7 is being built from source in the dev forum. Gingerbread is technically out for the G2, just not officially. CM7 is better than anything T-mo will push out to us though.
Edit: Spelling errors..

But wasn't there some stuff that broke with CM6?
Like wifi calling or something, I don't remember...

Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]

Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.

xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Then why the worry about Gingerbread??

cwirth7 said:
Then why the worry about Gingerbread??
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I'm guessing he wants to know when the official HTC Gingerbread releases. The one with Sense... Ugh.
My guess is in 2-3 months. I hope HTC are quick with this one. (Not that I will use it, atleast not a sense rom. I would go as far as Sense without rosie.)

The G2 doesn't use sense UI. Only the Desire Z does.
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xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.

hoffreaper said:
Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.
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No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"

KoolKidsKlub said:
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"
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That's because the roms nd UIs built here are more customizable and enable features not available through stock roms...like wirless calling, rooting, it just gives more control. And yes! MIUI is awessomeee...my fav. Probably because it has everything I need.
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Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.

If one of the htc product that has sense comes out with gingerbread, I'm sure many chef will port it, including to desire z

xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Check the Development section. Rooting's easy and it's the first thing I did with my phone.

luis86dr said:
Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Does video playback work? Because that's the only remaining bug on GingerVillain.

Abra_Cadabra said:
Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.
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Did you ever bother to consider the fact that you have a smartphone? That means that you can install any email client that you want. If the default android email client doesn't have the features you want, INSTALL A DIFFERENT ONE!!!

KoolKidsKlub said:
No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
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You're being a little harsh there. In fact, visionary has never bricked a single phone EVER. What it can do, under some circumstances, is corrupt the system partition, which is TRIVIAL to repair. Especially since the first step after visionary is to gfree it.
ALL THAT VISIONARY IS, IS A TEMPROOT.
The reason why it can cause issues is that you can end up in a state where you are synchronizing a broken filesystem cache with the root filesystem. That is all. This is NOT a brick.
The ONLY known bricked VISION was produced by scotty2 while trying out a radio command that repartitioned the eMMC and broke the radio. Visionary has NOT bricked even ONE phone.

Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
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JuiceHD2 said:
Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
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Uninstall Visionary and use either rage or gfree.

How the root exploit (rageagainstthecage.bin) works

I was curious about how the root exploit that unlocks our phones for all this great dev stuff works. Found this explanation, and it was quite good. For those with sufficient unix/linux knowlege, this will be totally understandable, so I'd recommend following the link, and reading the in-depth explanation, complete with C code. For those with less background in this stuff, it's still worth a read, but you'll have to work harder to understand exactly what's going on.
Post any questions in this thread, and I'll be happy to answer them!

This is a good explanation, I read something similar when rage was released, may hve even been this. But I'm pretty versed with linux and am overly versed in C...to the point where I have nightmares....
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Hi and sorry for the bump guys,
Does anybody know how to do the rageagainstthecage root with an LG Optimus One P503? I have tried everything - Simple Root, SuperOneClick, VISIONary, z4root, nothing is working! I really need this root because my phone did not come with Android market and I want to install it through ADB, and I think that requires a root correct? Even if I can't root my phone, is there any way to install an apk to my phone's internal storage and not my SD card?
Thanks for reading this!

By rooting lol

I know for the opimus s you have to force a flash of an older software for z4 to root.
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no you dont need to root to install thru adb. just open up command/terminal,
adb install /blah/blah/phoneapphere.apk
alternatively you can put it on your sd card and use a file manager to locate the apk and install it on the phone.. for a nice easy root, use gingerbreak its the latest un patched exploit.. theres an apk version on xda it will root your phone no issues

HTC Merge Root?
shabbypenguin said:
no you dont need to root to install thru adb. just open up command/terminal,
adb install /blah/blah/phoneapphere.apk
alternatively you can put it on your sd card and use a file manager to locate the apk and install it on the phone.. for a nice easy root, use gingerbreak its the latest un patched exploit.. theres an apk version on xda it will root your phone no issues
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Can I use this on the kinda new HTC Merge? (I get it next weekend).
Spec: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909
What would be the best way to root this phone?
[HTC Sense, 2.2 Froyo, CDMA/GSM, Qwerty kb - it's main backbone i guess.]
Thanks in advance

dillalade said:
Can I use this on the kinda new HTC Merge? (I get it next weekend).
Spec: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909
What would be the best way to root this phone?
[HTC Sense, 2.2 Froyo, CDMA/GSM, Qwerty kb - it's main backbone i guess.]
Thanks in advance
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you do realize that this is the Epic 4G section, right ?

daddymikey1975 said:
you do realize that this is the Epic 4G section, right ?
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Yes but thats why hes asking if it can be used for the other phone. Specs wise, both phones are almost the same internally.

xPreSiDenT said:
Yes but thats why hes asking if it can be used for the other phone. Specs wise, both phones are almost the same internally.
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specs don't really dictate which exploit will work on a device though.
If the bootloader is locked on the HTC, there's going to be a different workaround to root it.
just sayin'