Gingerbread? ETA? - G2 and Desire Z General

When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?

xamadeix said:
When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?
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I'd imagine not for a while. It hasn't even been a month since it came out yet. I'm sure we will see it at some point in the next few months. I hope...

CM7 is being built from source in the dev forum. Gingerbread is technically out for the G2, just not officially. CM7 is better than anything T-mo will push out to us though.
Edit: Spelling errors..

But wasn't there some stuff that broke with CM6?
Like wifi calling or something, I don't remember...

Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]

Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.

xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Then why the worry about Gingerbread??

cwirth7 said:
Then why the worry about Gingerbread??
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I'm guessing he wants to know when the official HTC Gingerbread releases. The one with Sense... Ugh.
My guess is in 2-3 months. I hope HTC are quick with this one. (Not that I will use it, atleast not a sense rom. I would go as far as Sense without rosie.)

The G2 doesn't use sense UI. Only the Desire Z does.
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xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.

hoffreaper said:
Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.
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No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"

KoolKidsKlub said:
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"
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That's because the roms nd UIs built here are more customizable and enable features not available through stock roms...like wirless calling, rooting, it just gives more control. And yes! MIUI is awessomeee...my fav. Probably because it has everything I need.
Sent from HTC Desire Z using XDA App

Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.

If one of the htc product that has sense comes out with gingerbread, I'm sure many chef will port it, including to desire z

xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Check the Development section. Rooting's easy and it's the first thing I did with my phone.

luis86dr said:
Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Does video playback work? Because that's the only remaining bug on GingerVillain.

Abra_Cadabra said:
Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.
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Did you ever bother to consider the fact that you have a smartphone? That means that you can install any email client that you want. If the default android email client doesn't have the features you want, INSTALL A DIFFERENT ONE!!!

KoolKidsKlub said:
No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
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You're being a little harsh there. In fact, visionary has never bricked a single phone EVER. What it can do, under some circumstances, is corrupt the system partition, which is TRIVIAL to repair. Especially since the first step after visionary is to gfree it.
ALL THAT VISIONARY IS, IS A TEMPROOT.
The reason why it can cause issues is that you can end up in a state where you are synchronizing a broken filesystem cache with the root filesystem. That is all. This is NOT a brick.
The ONLY known bricked VISION was produced by scotty2 while trying out a radio command that repartitioned the eMMC and broke the radio. Visionary has NOT bricked even ONE phone.

Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
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JuiceHD2 said:
Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
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Uninstall Visionary and use either rage or gfree.

Related

We Need to Port the Desire ROM (once rooted)

I hope that once we have this rooted, we will be able to flash the Desire ROM. I'm sick at my stomach knowing that we are missing the wonderful News (RSS) widget and even a few others.
The desire is not a CDMA phone.
Make more sense to just port the app you want and much more realistic.
sure. if someone can port a widget.
Could you modify the ROM to work with the Qualcomm CDMA processor?
If you root it you won't be able to get the FROYO 2.2 upgrade. Can't be installed on rooted phones.
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Ruben1123 said:
I hope that once we have this rooted, we will be able to flash the Desire ROM. I'm sick at my stomach knowing that we are missing the wonderful News (RSS) widget and even a few others.
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If we had root, and if we could write to /system/, then we could push the widget to the phone and be done with it. It should not require a whole ROM port to accomplish. We already have the file (com.htc.NewsReaderWidget.apk), however we cannot install/push it to the phone.
jbh00jh said:
If you root it you won't be able to get the FROYO 2.2 upgrade. Can't be installed on rooted phones.
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A rooted phone might be locked out from an *official* update to 2.2, but the community would have that sorted out in a matter of hours once there was an official update to build off of. Anyways, until we do get root, that discussion is pretty much moot.
Thank you! Can't wait.
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If we had root, and if we could write to /system/, then we could push the widget to the phone and be done with it. It should not require a whole ROM port to accomplish. We already have the file (com.htc.NewsReaderWidget.apk), however we cannot install/push it to the phone.
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If there's an apk floating around, why couldn't it just be installed?
Also, rooted phones can run 2.2, I have no idea where you're getting that from.
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If there's an apk floating around, why couldn't it just be installed?
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Because you cannot install some .apk without permission to write to /system/app/ which we do not have. Want to try? It's attached. You will get "Application not installed" and if you try to adb push it, well, where are you going to put it? You cannot write to /system/app/ and you cannot write to /data/app/, so if you know another way...
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Also, rooted phones can run 2.2, I have no idea where you're getting that from.
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Of course they can run it. First of all, it was another poster who said they could not -- and they didn't even really say they couldn't 'run' it, just said unambiguously that they couldn't install it -- which in hindsight was probably referring to the same manual update engadget discusses, linked below. Second, my suggestion that the upgrade *might* not be *officially* supported on a rooted phone was just a logical possibility in my mind when I said it, but may have actually turned out to be the case:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/22/android-2-2-froyo-manual-update-found-now-available-for-non-roo/
EDIT: and also here is Paul with things all community-flavored already (pre-rooted update.zip for n1):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631
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If you root it you won't be able to get the FROYO 2.2 upgrade. Can't be installed on rooted phones.
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Says who?
Update: Guess many others already set this comment straight. Sorry to be redundant

[Q] A noob proof way to flash custom ROMs

As we know, now we have a clockworkmod port for our Desire HD. It is fully functional and working. It is an awesome thing to be able to flash a custom rom and kernels onto our device.
but the question is, will there be a one click solution or a simpler way to have a custom recovery without downgrading to ENG hboot like now is required to push a custom recovery onto our device..
- will Desire HD have a total ROM Manager support as in just install clockworkmod recovery via ROM Manager like HTC Desire and others?
- or will there be something like Unrevoked where its a one click of having a total free custom recovery onto our device..
the issue is, not everyone is smart enough to perform the risky hboot downgrade and pushing clockwork manually.. a simpler solution would be very handy. This is so that newcommers could just root via Visionary perma root and then sorta like download rom manager via market and then just install CWM without downgrading hboot
Thanks for your answers
I doubt it very much....maybe rom manager will recognised the
DHD from default.
A clockwork app mmm usful..
But again I cant see it..
Root
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Android SDK
Fastboot/adb shell
Clockwork
Thats the way I went...I do agree that an easier method would help the newbies..
What is needed is an all in one app - Now that would be fun to build..
I think the Devs are far to busy with custom roms and kernels hahaha
Not as Im complaining...
We'll see...
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I doubt it very much....maybe rom manager will recognised the
DHD from default.
A clockwork app mmm usful..
But again I cant see it..
Root
S 0FF
Android SDK
Fastboot/adb shell
Clockwork
Thats the way I went...I do agree that an easier method would help the newbies..
What is needed is an all in one app - Now that would be fun to build..
I think the Devs are far to busy with custom roms and kernels hahaha
Not as Im complaining...
We'll see...
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btw, why does clockwork needs to be pushed rather than like previously a device (htc desire) clockworkmod can be installed via using rom manager directly.. is it that rom manager still dosent support Desire HD?
true indeed, a click by click software that automates like unrevoked would be very handy.. afterall.. not everyone is an advanced user to perform those brick risking methods
I also wish an easyer way was possible as I really want to push a custom Rom and kernal but just a kernal will do for me. Is there any you tube videos that show you step by step to put a kernal on dhd? If not would some1 find the time to do this? This would help newbies like myself to feel more comfortable.
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override182 said:
btw, why does clockwork needs to be pushed rather than like previously a device (htc desire) clockworkmod can be installed via using rom manager directly.. is it that rom manager still dosent support Desire HD?
true indeed, a click by click software that automates like unrevoked would be very handy.. afterall.. not everyone is an advanced user to perform those brick risking methods
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Yes that right,no support yet, its early days and Im sure things will get easier as time goes by.
rixsta said:
Yes that right,no support yet, its early days and Im sure things will get easier as time goes by.
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or is it that clockworkmod really need an engineering bootloader to work on desire HD.. i really hope that there would be a simpler way..
What's the noob friendliest way to just remove some stock apps (amazon,sound hound,Twitter,etc)? I reckon I need to do a root at least, but can't seem to work out what else I need to do. Cheers.
Mojo Fones said:
What's the noob friendliest way to just remove some stock apps (amazon,sound hound,Twitter,etc)? I reckon I need to do a root at least, but can't seem to work out what else I need to do. Cheers.
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use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
Excellent, thank you very much.
override182 said:
use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
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I have a feeling you need clockwork recovery too...
override182 said:
use visionary to permaroot ur device.. then u can use titanium backup to uninstall those apps with root permissions
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Worked perfectly with just a temp root, oh sorry for the hijacking override.
Mojo Fones said:
Worked perfectly with just a temp root, oh sorry for the hijacking override.
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happy to see it worked out for you.. its ok mate.. no big deal at all..
rixsta said:
I have a feeling you need clockwork recovery too...
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No, permaroot via visionary and titanium backup as removal will work fine without CW, beware though take apps out of your /system folder may cause future OTA upgrades to fail when they try and upgrade apps that are no longer present
ghostofcain said:
No, permaroot via visionary and titanium backup as removal will work fine without CW, beware though take apps out of your /system folder may cause future OTA upgrades to fail when they try and upgrade apps that are no longer present
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indeed.. i almost forgot about that...
this thread is dying
Not ony that, I do recall having read that removing those system apps does not give you free space to use, so there is no big reason why you should do it....
On topic:
I have my DHD now for a couple of weeks.....never had android before....I had overclocked my DHD when kamma released one of his kernels and visionary temp root was available It worked fine.
Now I have been out for 1,5 week and just continued reading again the day before yesterday.
I must say, I do read the topic I am interested in completely, so (almost) every post, just to get a feeling of potential issues or get some idea of what to do, if...
So although I am new to android, the great threats in the developer forum have given me a reasonable understanding of what to do, how to do it, and what risk there is.
With that, I have perm rooted my DHD, got S-off, installed clockwork mod and flashed leedroid's rom on my DHD. All done yesterday and the day before, without problem.
Am now considering if I will OC again of just leave it as is for now....
just read carefully, don;t just take the 1st post in the dev section, but read through the topic to understand potential issues....The topic creator is in now way responsible for you not reading properly or failing to understand the implications.
But Yes, a one click solution would be handy, although I prefer to have it done this way, as I now have a little better understanding of what actually happens, rather than, hey, I flashed this rom ...
paulus_01 said:
Not ony that, I do recall having read that removing those system apps does not give you free space to use, so there is no big reason why you should do it....
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if you remove those system apps, won't it help in booting up the phone faster? and probably save some memory that would be taken up with those useless apps?
lukesky said:
if you remove those system apps, won't it help in booting up the phone faster? and probably save some memory that would be taken up with those useless apps?
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I think you'll see little to no improvement at all...
For me, I used the 'freeze' option in Titanium rather than uninstalling them. It makes my apps menu tidier, and there must be at least a slight improvement in speed as less stuff is running in the background now.
so guys, do you think anyone will come out with a simpler way to flash custom rom soon?

[Q] Cannot root phone due to newer version of Hboot (.86)

Awhile ago i tried rooting my phone with a tutorial from The Unlockr and it went well except i could get S to turn off and it would not perma root. Does anyone know of a tutorial for the newest version of Hboot that can root the phone? I found a tutorial that works with the G2 and Desire Z without ADB but i am not sure if it will work with the Mytouch 4g.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section and thanks in advance.
I see that you're new here. Please use the search function, this has been discussed a thousand times before.
HBoot 0.86.0000 is the bootloader that comes shipped with all Glaciers. It is NOT new and DOES NOT prevent you from rooting. The engineering bootloader (0.85.2007) is obtained either by flashing it manually or by using the root.sh method to root your phone, such as by following the instructions on theunlockr.com. If you ask most people, they'll recommend using the gfree method that is stickied in the development subforum for this device.
Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
doat said:
Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
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Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
TeeJay3800 said:
Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
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and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
doat said:
and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
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The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
TeeJay3800 said:
The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
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fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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doat said:
Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
TeeJay3800 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
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There's the stock nandroid listed in development. Not sure if it will unroot though. But if you want to just restore everything (and unroot) copy the PD15IMG.ZIP to your SD and boot into bootloader
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Nicgraner said:
Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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I cannot post links yet but it involved the Terminal Emulator Method
3a. Start terminal emulator up on your device.(I prefer this method b/c you can see the output.)
a. type "su" + enter to gain root privileges.
b. Type "cd /sdcard/root" + enter.
c. Type "sh root.sh" + enter.
d. Follow the on screen prompts.
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
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Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
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Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
doat said:
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
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You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
doat said:
Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
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Just go a Google Image or YouTube seach for HTC Sense, and check out what the UI looks like. The other UI is the standard Android look that ROMs like CM7 and RoyalGinger have.
TeeJay3800 said:
You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
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I figured the Ginger roms were similar since they are both called Ginger lol. Well as i said i am looking to keep the phone's functions but just make it faster with a light rom or something like that.
I just checked out both interfaces and I like the Android UI better than sense, especially the new droid UI.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
Lakeshow423 said:
Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
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Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
doat said:
Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 read this tutorial. The second part is the instructions on how to flash. There is a YouTube video made by mackster also. Read carefully then make a backup (nandroid) before anything. Happy flashing!

Rooting New Gingerbread release

Well it is now official that gingerbread has been leak/released for our G2 and I'm sure lot of us who had soft bricks are happy to know we can unbrick it and now to our next problem rooting it
I have tried 2 ways so far first is the wiki way with psneutur and gfree, and other is temp root with visionary
My results for both came negative,
Gfree/ psneutur gave me permission denied after I pushed it in
Visionary jus gave me black screen
And gingerbreak requirs s-off
So let's gather info and or figure out a way to root new gingerbread if any tried downgrade method let all us know with steps what you did
Here is the info for new gingerbread
Ship s-on
Hboot 0.82.0008
Radio 26.08.04.30M3
eMMC-boot
Apr 13 2011,
So hope we can find solution to root and we can get custom roms back on it
you need to try to gain temproot with gingerbreak. can you please come over #g2root ?
I just said I tempted and it just stuck on trying to root nothing happen and I will go what irc server? Freenode?
Let's wait for an update from paul on visionary
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androidfeen809 said:
Let's wait for an update from paul on visionary
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I dont know about that...once you put out something that bricks a ton of phones, i tend not to trust it ever again...
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I dont know about that...once you put out something that bricks a ton of phones, i tend not to trust it ever again...
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Well... I've never used any method but Unforgivens Method. Well hopefully we find a new way to root it.
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lainvalenajr said:
Well... I've never used any method but Unforgivens Method. Well hopefully we find a new way to root it.
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Visionary (as evidence by the sticky at the top of the dev phone saying DONT USE VISIONARY TO PERM ROOT) has bricked many a phones that have only now been able to be fixed. I think its just a trust issue and comes to down to each individual and what they personally think and believe I personally would never use visionary again no matter how many times its updated or "fixed". The trust has been broken.
Idk why there's hate on visionary... I rooted my phone the second day the process was released and I've never had an issue since...? And I've rooted 2 other g2s well after and still never had any issues... just followed instructions. I understand it can brick your phone, but then again... was it really visionary that bricked it? Or was it an user error placing blame?? Just saying....
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yeah i rooted my g2 using the visionary method and have had no issues. and it seems like a lot of the bricking has occurred since i rooted, so i dont get it.
i did visionary root with success, but put yourself in the other end of ppls shoes who did use visinary an you get a brick and no way out of it, other than have gfree with jus pushing, and everythign else is done for you, i would go that route than a higher chance of bricking,
But this thread is not bout bricking this is about how to obtain root on the new stock rom that is out
Yes please! if anyone finds out how to root the G2 with stock Gingerbread could you please post! thanks in advance!
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Idk why there's hate on visionary... I rooted my phone the second day the process was released and I've never had an issue since...? And I've rooted 2 other g2s well after and still never had any issues... just followed instructions. I understand it can brick your phone, but then again... was it really visionary that bricked it? Or was it an user error placing blame?? Just saying....
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user error? lol in a one-click root... maybe they were pressing the top right corner of the button and that's their error lol
I don't know, either, but there has to be some reasonable explanation, doesn't there? After all, many people (myself included) had no trouble rooting with Visionary. OTOH, this is my second G2 - the first went back under warranty. With the first one, Visionary was unsuccessful at perm-rooting. This one, worked on the first try. Odd? Computers are NOT supposed to behave randomly - so why the difference?
when someone comes up with the visionary source, there are people that can understand it. until then it's a black box.
+1
I'm in the same boat. I just got a brand new G2 off craigslist, and was very happy to see that it had gingerbread. But to my extreme dissappointment, I cannot root it or downgrade it to gain root. Below are the things I have tried and didnt work.
Visionary
Gingerbreak (v1,0, 1.1, 1.2)
Rage
Super One-click
Z4Root
Androot
Gold card, for downgrading, also tried Gold card with above root methods.
I have also tried taking the stock Froyo PC10IMG and modified the info txt to read it as a newer version, and it loaded it, checked it, then just went back to the bootloader screen like there was no image there at all. Last night I was thinking that if I pulled the internal battery (the little tiny one) then it would lose its info, allowing me to load any PC10IMG I wanted. NOPE. Rom and all its info and settings are still intact. Weird, cuz I thought that's what that little battery was for. So, I'm out of options. I love the rom, it's fast as hell and the battery life is far better than when I had my last G2. I just wanna overclock, add some sounds without using Zedge or something (want internal mods that arent dependant on memory using apps), and do some theming. Oh, and removing that horrible pink bloat >:]
I just know that our awesome Devs will come up with something.
XDA ROCKS!!!!!
Waiting?!
Any updates regarding the root?
I tried everything, and nothing works.
I even tried to resend it to the repair center to get froyo, they returned it back saying that they could no longer Downgrade it!
well this is my argument, you can call them and ask them for one that is froyo
complain to them that you have netflix and paying for a service to use on your phone reason why you got it, and since "THEY" updated and made it unsuably they are obligated to give you one that can use netflix or a replacement that can use it as they have done something that was not confirmed with you if you sent it for simple repair, you did not get your phone back to how it was you got something different...
start this fight you will probably end up with a mytouch 4g
fallen368 said:
...Last night I was thinking that if I pulled the internal battery (the little tiny one) then it would lose its info, allowing me to load any PC10IMG I wanted. NOPE. Rom and all its info and settings are still intact. Weird, cuz I thought that's what that little battery was for.
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Hi!
The config options that you would have to change are written to the emmc on partition17 (main version) or partition7 (S-OFF, SuperCID, SIM-Lock) so that will not change if you pull any kind of battery.
The only chance to root this rom is that we find a new temp-root method and then do the usual things (misc_version, goldcard, downgrade, gfree, ...)
I do not expect that someone publishes a new temp-root before either T-Mobile/HTC rolled out the OTA or a different device running 2.3.4 really needs it.
Have fun - Guhl
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guhl99 said:
Hi!
The config options that you would have to change are written to the emmc on partition17 (main version) or partition7 (S-OFF, SuperCID, SIM-Lock) so that will not change if you pull any kind of battery.
The only chance to root this rom is that we find a new temp-root method and then do the usual things (misc_version, goldcard, downgrade, gfree, ...)
I do not expect that someone publishes a new temp-root before either T-Mobile/HTC rolled out the OTA or a different device running 2.3.4 really needs it.
Have fun - Guhl
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Damnit WE really need it!
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xsteven77x said:
Damnit WE really need it!
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Either demand it now and be greedy, or wait and it will be universal. =]

Rooting

So I just received the gingerbread update from t-mobile.
I was wondering since this is the new update, what would be the way to root this phone. I mainly want to uninstall the bloatware. also after rooting and removing bloatware. Can you undo the root and still keep the bloatware off?
Yes this is a noob android question, but your help is appreciated!
This thread will help you immeasurably if you want to do anything to your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866175
The rooting methods there should work fine for you. I personally recommend this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
because of the fact that it's mainly meant for people who are just getting started in the world of rooted phones.
Hopefully all this helps you out
There is no way to root with the update as of yet.
Is there a way to make the phone force check update
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There is no way to root with the update as of yet.
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Hmmm, well that sucks. I guess at best all you could do is downgrade your phone to Froyo with PD15IMG, root your phone there with whatever method you prefer, and then upgrade back up to Gingerbread using a a custom rom like CyanogenMod or something.
If the Sense features are what make you want to keep the stock rom, then I recommend you upgrade to Virtuous Unity 1.31. It's got Sense 3.0 on it, and that's got pretty much all the sense features you'll ever want or need, and it runs pretty damn well if you ask me.
AlanB412 said:
Hmmm, well that sucks. I guess at best all you could do is downgrade your phone to Froyo with PD15IMG, root your phone there with whatever method you prefer, and then upgrade back up to Gingerbread using a a custom rom like CyanogenMod or something.
If the Sense features are what make you want to keep the stock rom, then I recommend you upgrade to Virtuous Unity 1.31. It's got Sense 3.0 on it, and that's got pretty much all the sense features you'll ever want or need, and it runs pretty damn well if you ask me.
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I believe you can only downgrade if you have s=off.
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I believe you can only downgrade if you have s=off.
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No, you can downgrade anyway. There's a thread that I've linked to in at least 3-4 posts only today, that explains how to do it.

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