So I just received the gingerbread update from t-mobile.
I was wondering since this is the new update, what would be the way to root this phone. I mainly want to uninstall the bloatware. also after rooting and removing bloatware. Can you undo the root and still keep the bloatware off?
Yes this is a noob android question, but your help is appreciated!
This thread will help you immeasurably if you want to do anything to your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866175
The rooting methods there should work fine for you. I personally recommend this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
because of the fact that it's mainly meant for people who are just getting started in the world of rooted phones.
Hopefully all this helps you out
There is no way to root with the update as of yet.
Is there a way to make the phone force check update
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lowandbehold said:
There is no way to root with the update as of yet.
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Hmmm, well that sucks. I guess at best all you could do is downgrade your phone to Froyo with PD15IMG, root your phone there with whatever method you prefer, and then upgrade back up to Gingerbread using a a custom rom like CyanogenMod or something.
If the Sense features are what make you want to keep the stock rom, then I recommend you upgrade to Virtuous Unity 1.31. It's got Sense 3.0 on it, and that's got pretty much all the sense features you'll ever want or need, and it runs pretty damn well if you ask me.
AlanB412 said:
Hmmm, well that sucks. I guess at best all you could do is downgrade your phone to Froyo with PD15IMG, root your phone there with whatever method you prefer, and then upgrade back up to Gingerbread using a a custom rom like CyanogenMod or something.
If the Sense features are what make you want to keep the stock rom, then I recommend you upgrade to Virtuous Unity 1.31. It's got Sense 3.0 on it, and that's got pretty much all the sense features you'll ever want or need, and it runs pretty damn well if you ask me.
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I believe you can only downgrade if you have s=off.
lowandbehold said:
I believe you can only downgrade if you have s=off.
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No, you can downgrade anyway. There's a thread that I've linked to in at least 3-4 posts only today, that explains how to do it.
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I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
I used unrEVOked Forever and rooted my phone. It was easy and quick. It rooted it and kept the stock rom. I used it for like 2 weeks then decided I would try Warm. If you use unrEVOked, it should keep the stock rom and be rooted. After that, it's your choice to swap roms. I like Warm because it has the stock Sprint hotspot enabled.
parker81 said:
I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
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You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
You don't have to use a custom rom unrevoked installs a stock rooted and you can still update it ota but you loose root if you do custom roms sometimes add some tweaks and functionality that you don't get from stock so they are worth looking at.
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m4rk0358 said:
You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
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thanks guys for the super fast replies...
i can just use unrEVOked3 right?
it sounds like unrEVOked forever is geared more towards someone want to use custom roms...
i also found this tut..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWm8262iMU&annotation_id=annotation_81633&feature=iv
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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firestetz said:
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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i have to use both?
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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Your right it does but if you read on just about any forum here it's not a full unlock but by using unrevoked forever you get s-off or security-off which when you're talking about stock rooted lets you upgrade and root without waiting for someone else to produce a stock rooted update rom.
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I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
malvoc said:
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
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Wrong section.
Root it. You can always unroot your phone and go back to stock. Ive done it plenty of time. Read through the forums....there are plenty of instructions on how to
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Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
RacerXFD said:
Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
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this ^^
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You can always flash back to stock if you don't like what you did to it. I end up flashing to stock, then flashing to a rom every other week or so to clean any messes with my phone. You'll learn how to do it right and how to fix. But start by reading the stickies, and asking the guys on irc if you have questions.
I'ld be more concerned that if you get the OTA before you root, that the update will close the exploit and make it impossible to root afterwards. If you root now, you may have to wait a day or two longer for Froyo. But if you plan to root after (or if you unroot for an OTA), you may have to wait a lot longer for a new root method.
Root and ROM. no question about it. We haven't even heard a release date or even a time frame for when the Fascinate will get it. I know everyone bashes me for this but the bottom line is no one has ever came out and said that the fascinate will get it on this date. Maybe the galaxy S is. But not the VERIZON FASCINATE
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When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?
xamadeix said:
When can people with Tmobile G2's expect Gingerbread?
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I'd imagine not for a while. It hasn't even been a month since it came out yet. I'm sure we will see it at some point in the next few months. I hope...
CM7 is being built from source in the dev forum. Gingerbread is technically out for the G2, just not officially. CM7 is better than anything T-mo will push out to us though.
Edit: Spelling errors..
But wasn't there some stuff that broke with CM6?
Like wifi calling or something, I don't remember...
Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Then why the worry about Gingerbread??
cwirth7 said:
Then why the worry about Gingerbread??
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I'm guessing he wants to know when the official HTC Gingerbread releases. The one with Sense... Ugh.
My guess is in 2-3 months. I hope HTC are quick with this one. (Not that I will use it, atleast not a sense rom. I would go as far as Sense without rosie.)
The G2 doesn't use sense UI. Only the Desire Z does.
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xamadeix said:
Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.
hoffreaper said:
Rooting the G2 doesn't take any special skill and the procedures that are written out here and on unlockr are proven to work. Once rooting to install Cyanogen all you need is to download ROM Manager from the Marketplace and it will handle installing recovery and allow you to download ROM for install without you having to worry about it.
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No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"
KoolKidsKlub said:
BTW, people were talking about the Sense UI, I think that its the most stupidest thing that when a manufacturer makes a UI, such as Touch Wiz, Moto Blur, or Sense, it is referred to as "bloatware" and needs to be removed, but when the community makes a UI such as the MIUI one, people call it the "most awesomest thing EVER!"
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That's because the roms nd UIs built here are more customizable and enable features not available through stock roms...like wirless calling, rooting, it just gives more control. And yes! MIUI is awessomeee...my fav. Probably because it has everything I need.
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Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.
If one of the htc product that has sense comes out with gingerbread, I'm sure many chef will port it, including to desire z
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Oh yeah, I would use CM7 but I dont really know how to root or even install cyanogen.
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Check the Development section. Rooting's easy and it's the first thing I did with my phone.
luis86dr said:
Everything is working for the most part with cm7 at this point. I'm running build 45 and I'm very satisfied.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Does video playback work? Because that's the only remaining bug on GingerVillain.
Abra_Cadabra said:
Off topic I suppose but Sense does have quite a few things that stock Android doesn't.
This bug alone keeps me off stock android including Gingerbread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1180
However HTC mail which comes with Sense does not have that bug and let's me use an Android device for work.
Call it bloatware, call it what you will but for some of us using an Android device would not even be an option without Sense.
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Did you ever bother to consider the fact that you have a smartphone? That means that you can install any email client that you want. If the default android email client doesn't have the features you want, INSTALL A DIFFERENT ONE!!!
KoolKidsKlub said:
No, don't use the unlockr tutorial, the one that I saw used the VISIONary way. Just root it with the instructions in our Wiki, that's the safest way to do it. But whatever you do, DON'T use VISIONary EVER, it bricks phones. ADB might not be the easiest to use for some, but at least it works. Some people have used the VISIONary method and it worked for them, but that method is a "fake" root, its about 90% real and that method is risky, it bricks some people's phones. If you root at all, its best to learn how to use ADB with the Rage and GFree method.
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You're being a little harsh there. In fact, visionary has never bricked a single phone EVER. What it can do, under some circumstances, is corrupt the system partition, which is TRIVIAL to repair. Especially since the first step after visionary is to gfree it.
ALL THAT VISIONARY IS, IS A TEMPROOT.
The reason why it can cause issues is that you can end up in a state where you are synchronizing a broken filesystem cache with the root filesystem. That is all. This is NOT a brick.
The ONLY known bricked VISION was produced by scotty2 while trying out a radio command that repartitioned the eMMC and broke the radio. Visionary has NOT bricked even ONE phone.
Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
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JuiceHD2 said:
Hey I want to know something. I rooted with visionary a month ago and now I can't flash any themes, it just say installation aborted. Do you think it has anything to do with visionary. And if it is, what can I do to reverse the effect or even fix it? Thanks.
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Uninstall Visionary and use either rage or gfree.
Awhile ago i tried rooting my phone with a tutorial from The Unlockr and it went well except i could get S to turn off and it would not perma root. Does anyone know of a tutorial for the newest version of Hboot that can root the phone? I found a tutorial that works with the G2 and Desire Z without ADB but i am not sure if it will work with the Mytouch 4g.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section and thanks in advance.
I see that you're new here. Please use the search function, this has been discussed a thousand times before.
HBoot 0.86.0000 is the bootloader that comes shipped with all Glaciers. It is NOT new and DOES NOT prevent you from rooting. The engineering bootloader (0.85.2007) is obtained either by flashing it manually or by using the root.sh method to root your phone, such as by following the instructions on theunlockr.com. If you ask most people, they'll recommend using the gfree method that is stickied in the development subforum for this device.
Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
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Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
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Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
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Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
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and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
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and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
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The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
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The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
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fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
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fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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doat said:
Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
TeeJay3800 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
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There's the stock nandroid listed in development. Not sure if it will unroot though. But if you want to just restore everything (and unroot) copy the PD15IMG.ZIP to your SD and boot into bootloader
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Nicgraner said:
Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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I cannot post links yet but it involved the Terminal Emulator Method
3a. Start terminal emulator up on your device.(I prefer this method b/c you can see the output.)
a. type "su" + enter to gain root privileges.
b. Type "cd /sdcard/root" + enter.
c. Type "sh root.sh" + enter.
d. Follow the on screen prompts.
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
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Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
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Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
doat said:
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
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You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
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Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
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Just go a Google Image or YouTube seach for HTC Sense, and check out what the UI looks like. The other UI is the standard Android look that ROMs like CM7 and RoyalGinger have.
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You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
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I figured the Ginger roms were similar since they are both called Ginger lol. Well as i said i am looking to keep the phone's functions but just make it faster with a light rom or something like that.
I just checked out both interfaces and I like the Android UI better than sense, especially the new droid UI.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
Lakeshow423 said:
Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
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Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
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Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 read this tutorial. The second part is the instructions on how to flash. There is a YouTube video made by mackster also. Read carefully then make a backup (nandroid) before anything. Happy flashing!
I was runnings myms 2.2 with clockworkmod and I went back to stock by downloading the stock rom and when I go to update it says no updates available.
I'm wondering if maybe I didn't install a new stock rom or something is wrong.
You can just get a rooted version of the update from this site if you do the ota you will lose root.
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When I heard it was out, I flashed back to the stock rom, and checked for it, but it said my system was up to date. After about a day, though, it asked me if I wanted to update to the new version. Which unfortunately wouldn't install for me. Which is fine, I like CM7 better than sense anyways.
If you haven't seen it yet, just wait a bit, it'll probably show up.
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I was runnings myms 2.2 with clockworkmod and I went back to stock by downloading the stock rom and when I go to update it says no updates available.
I'm wondering if maybe I didn't install a new stock rom or something is wrong.
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Please find a way to accept the ota! That way I can laugh at you when you are no longer able to root your phone. Why do people feel the need to unroot for an ota????
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Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
geez, your making this harder than it has to be. you are already rooted. just download the rooted rom and be done with it. you will still be running a stock rom even though your rooted. if you do absolutely nothing with root u can still download and install the rooted stock rom and use it
sah0724 said:
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
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Then just download and flash the rooted stock rom by xHausx. Done.
It has all the stock apps and stuff. No mods or themes. No one said you need to.do all that stuff if you root. Rooting just gives you the option to do so.
I wanted to root just to get rid of some sprint apps. Then I switched my rom but no other hacking for me.
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sah0724 said:
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
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When Google releases ice cream sandwich and htc doesn't update the EVO you will wish you were rooted.
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