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I just found this, any credibility here?
http://www.neowin.net/news/sprints-htc-evo-4g-will-run-froyo
i highly doubt this ! how come they updated the sense ui for the froyo release so early when it took the too much time for eclair ?
i think its true. with current versions of android not supporting front cameras, hdmi out, or 4g they would have to be running an updated version
newone757 said:
i think its true. with current versions of android not supporting front cameras, hdmi out, or 4g they would have to be running an updated version
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That doesn't necessarily mean froyo. 1.5 doesn't support CDMA yet both the Hero and the Samsung Moment have 1.5... All they have to do is hack support for those features into their version of 2.1. Doesn't rule out 2.2, but i doubt it.
But it is true that Google is pushing out Android development a lot faster than manufacturers are able to customize their phones with it. Plus Google and HTC are in bed together.
I remember these days.....
nice bump!!! can't believe they got it done. Really, what is this; Feb. 2011 or something?
Holy old post...remove
Omg good times
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
Wow, this is a pointless thread to bring back,but it is nostalgic.
Froyo 2.2 Coming Soon as per Sprint!
Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in near future.
As work on finalizing the software is under way, Sprint expects to launch Android 2.2 in the near future. It also will be available as an upgrade on the recently launched HTC EVO 4G.
With the Android 2.2 upgrade, customers can expect improvements to include the following benefits: updates to user interface, improved EAS Support, improved browser performance, including Flash 10x Support, voice dialing over Bluetooth and application storage on external memory.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...t-expects-to-launch-android-22-in-near-future
Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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Very nice.
Yup finalizing hopefully means that its done and just tweaks left. I would expect to get it some time in July.
Awesome! I wonder who will release it first though, Sprint or the devs at XDA
I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
Voice control via Bluetooth....FINALLY
rockky said:
I expected something like this as Fridays the return deadline for the first wave of Evo buyers.
Smart would be to actually HAVE Froyo out a few days before that date...like maybe in Monday expected OTA?!....as the effects are significant with Froyo.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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I hope you are right, but i kinda doubt it due to Froyo's final build just being released.
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HTC works fast . A Google developer said that it would take even less time to implement Sense into Froyo 2.2 since it was mainly native code that implemented into froyo. Or something like that.
As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
muncheroo said:
yea if we set our expectations super low we can't be disappointed am i right ?
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Exactly
Better to be surprised by the unknown...then to be let down by what you were waiting for.
At least we won't have to wait on Sprint to fumble with a Hero and Moment version, as per their Twitter:
HTC EVO will be updated to Android 2.2; Samsung Moment & HTC Hero will not. Future devices launching w/ 2.1 will be also be updated to 2.2.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I wonder what Sense is going to look like on Froyo. And how fast it will be.
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I'm assuming Rosie will look exactly the same.
i'm sure we'll see Cyanogen's Froyo on EVO before Sprint releases the Sense Froyo
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Woo hoo! That means HTC is done with it and Sprint is finalizing it, it seems.
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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As much of a naysayer as I'm going to come off as, experience (while limited) makes me think closer to end of August or early September. There's no ETA ("soon" is prety vague) and I remember how long it took to get an OS update for the Hero. That coupled with the fact that HTC hasn't released the source code to the current version (much less the new version being promised) makes me think "Soon" will be a few months (which *would* be fast for them )
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I'm even more of a pessimist. I'd guess we're not going to see it until October at least. But I wish upon a star that I'm wrong!
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They probably mean Froyo is being finalized, not their version of it.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I think froyo is finalized at this point. I really doubt that they meant it like that. I'm going to bet Sprint wants to beat Moto X to the punch. So it will be out some time in July.
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I doubt it.
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
First off, here's that link you wanted...
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
I really like that lockscreen in 3.0.
Also I guess its worth speculating over which gingerbread it will get. The rumors about the Droid X update had 2.3.3, but supposedly 2.4 is in the works.
As i said with Froyo, I'll believe this when I see it.
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Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
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I think its "impossible" for us to get sense 3.0 because well its built to run on dual core phones as you see only two phones have been "announced" and not "released" that will run sense 3.0 and both have dual core 1.2 ghz processors and i dont think htc would give us sense 2.0 since sense 2.1 is so similar so if we get sense 2.1 or 2.0 it will be 2.1 because of it's similarities and thats only a slim chance that we will get sense 2.1 because we might stick with out original sense which will be very sad but as the other guy said if the incredible gets sense 3.0 i will also **** myself hehe.
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Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
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Cheers!
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
I would imagine HTC would port Sense 2.0 to the Incredible, rather than working with Sense 1.0. That being said, I've been wrong before.
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
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And the clarification:
"Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will"
Perhaps Sense 2.1.1? Or 2.2?
Odds are we will be on sense 2.0. Engadget just posted an article saying that only the newwer phones will get 3.0 so that's a non-issue. HTC did say we will get gingerbread by end of 2nd qt 2011 so we should be good on that.
The big question is... will be it worth unrooting and loading back on all that bloatware for the 2.3 update?
I'm sure a couple of the devs around here will help all of us not make that decision.
We wont be getting Sense 3 thats for sure, but once again I don't really care what we get since I'm rooted and will always have the best stuff available before stock users
Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
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Hey incubus any chance of that getting ported to our incredibles?
I'm still happy with CM7 so IF we get it I probably won't install it.
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The evo got a leaked version with sense 1.0 so I will just assume that our phones will not receive anything better
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for me, the importang from official 2.3 from htc is, dev could get the driver2 that need for optimizing the kernel and rom (gpu, cam, etc)
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I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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I could be mistaken, but given that you can set S-off, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that you can always flash a custom recovery and then, flash a rooted ROM?
Besides, even if the update is "unrootable"... I have no doubt that smarter people than I will be able to find a way.
HTC have proven that they will listen to the community by announcing future unlocked bootloaders.
Having just had a play with a Sensation I do like the look and operation of Sense 3.0. I know there are custom Roms ported from 3.0 but what I really want is an official upgrade. My DesireHD is plenty fast enough at the moment so I don't want to shell out big money for a dual core handset just to get Sense 3.0.
So perhaps HTC could prove they love us for more than 6 months (normal product cycle) by producing a Sense 3.0 for their handsets that are up to it AND unlock the bootloader at the same time. If enough people think so maybe just maybe we will be heard.
They already stated that they wouldn't be providing any sense 2.1 handsets with a sense 3.0 upgrade.
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Apparently its down to performance issues. I'm nit finding a huge difference between the two myself in terms of non bling features.
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. I know there are custom Roms ported from 3.0 but what I really want is an official upgrade.
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Having seen the hash that has been made of the latest 2.3.3 update why on earth would you want the official over a tweaked custom ROM?
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We'll see once the sdk is out.
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I agree .. I would go so far as to say that our developers at xda will probably do a better job than htc on sense 3.0 when the sdk comes out
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They already stated that they wouldn't be providing any sense 2.1 handsets with a sense 3.0 upgrade.
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They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.
My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).
I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.
HTC will *NOT* sacrifice user experience for new features (if any). Don't forget that Sense 3.0 came with the dual core Sensation. Yes, it can be made to work good-ish but you'll never see HTC overclocking their phones. Unlocking the bootloader does no damage to HTC (especially if it voids the warranty) so they did it. This has nothing to do with Sense 3.0 - we are more likely in the position of the Desire users: GB can run on their phones but it doesn't meet the performance standards of HTC. So no official GB for them... and no Sense 3.0 for us...
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They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.
My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).
I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.
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Half baked you said.There are more than 8 stable, more faster and smoother roms for DHD here including 2 powerful roms with full sense 3.0 support. Check the threads, hardly a discussion about a bug anymore just themes, rosie and what not.
Believe me they are far more superior to what Htc had to offer.
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i like the sense roms here but i had a problem with virtuous unity rom really liked it aswell.
Guys both virtuous unity and rcmix are fantastic 3.0 ports!! Try them..out devs are more talented than HTCs I have to say who thought it wasnt possible officially!
no chance
nochance of that happening as the first poster said, im currently using RcMix3D 1.9 which the dark v3 patch which is sense 3.0 and its wikked i love it, ive tried all the roms on here and this is the best
recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2
any help from XDA .
I think its HTC marketing strategy. They may think that now one would buy the Sensation or Evo 3d if some of the older Phones had 3.0.
But if you watch the videos how poorly Sense 3.0 runs on the Sensation maybe their honest with the performance and they can´t make a smooth runnig Sense 3.0 update for the DHD.
Don´t know wich is worse but you´ll have to flash a custom rom if you want Sense 3.0.
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recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2
any help from XDA .
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New build can now be downgraded mate It's found in the dev section
Seriously you don't want 3.0 I bought the sensation and have had 3 of them , they suffer from heat problems and sense 3 is so laggy. IM that disappointed that the phone its so slow I've bought a dhd and to be honest its quicker, cooler and far superior ...
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how to downgrade
thats funny ive been using 3.0 on my dhd for ages now and had no lags, here is the downgrade page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
I've tried the sense 3 Roms and while there are aspects of them that I like, i prefer CM7 for it's speed and flexibility, not missing sense at the moment
Duncan
I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.
johansenmo said:
I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.
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True. Everyone has his own feel over how thinks should work. I had the chance to buy a brand new Sensation, so I decided to compare it with my DHD running LeeDroid with Sense 3.0 port. Can You guess which one is laggier and slower? Surprise, surprise it's the Sensation. Even though the CPU is 0,2 GHz faster and a dual core, it seems as if the two cores are not syncronised and do not use the RAM in the best possible way. Sure for multithreaded apps the Sensation is faster, but how many of those are out there? And the heat. They say DHD has a overheating problem... Try using a Sensation or a SGS II for more than 30 minutes. They'll burn your hand I bet the next HTC will be 1,5 GHz and will be called the Untouchable (LMAO)
Read it and weep guys, especially the projected price?
I'll wait for the new Win 8 tablets before I spend that kind of money on an ICS tab.
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...938/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
Ooops forgot.....it's Nov. 7th
I doubt it will be $846 here in the US. We don't pay VAT, plus prices are often inflated somewhat in the UK. I also hear there will be a 16GB model coming, so I expect that model will be somewhere around $500 in the US. I hope they don't make the mistake of pricing it out of the market, that would be silly at this juncture in the tablet wars. They also promised to have the supply/demand issues fixed this time. I have had my eye on this device and was kind of hoping to cash in some Best Buy rewards bucks when the 16GB model shows up here in stores, perhaps 1st quarter next year? Also hoping for some competition though...
I'm probably gonna rock this tablet for a long time unless value starts making android ports of their games.
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tegra 3 will make me cry. I would probably switch tablets just because the tegra 3, although there isn't a maxed out tegra 2 game out there yet....
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Nice specs but personally I only use the tablet for browsing and email so the tegra 2 is fast enough. I just hope the A500 is capable of running ICS smoothly.
hav0c said:
Nice specs but personally I only use the tablet for browsing and email so the tegra 2 is fast enough. I just hope the A500 is capable of running ICS smoothly.
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Well it "supposedly" will run on previous phones, so I'm guessing it won't be a problem
If the Asus Transformer 2, 32GB ships for $499 that's just the price to pay for hopping on the Kal-el bandwagon first.
Also, odd that the new, thinner Toshiba Thrive is rumored to have a TI OMAP4460 dual-core 1.5GHz processor, not quad core.
Off topic but where can I get honeyvillan Kernal for my a500 taboonay 2.2. Tegra three is going the be sick btw can't wait. My Acer will probably end up as my trucks headunit after I pick up a Tegra 3 tab
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Awesome! An early ICS port source for our Iconias! Thanks, Asus!!
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Awesome! An early ICS port source for our Iconias! Thanks, Asus!!
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A bit tougher, as this tab will have different specs than not only ours, but the previous TF as well.
kjy2010 said:
A bit tougher, as this tab will have different specs than not only ours, but the previous TF as well.
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Very different hardware specs didn't stop the HTC Evo 3D from being ported to the Evo 4G.
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Very different hardware specs didn't stop the HTC Evo 3D from being ported to the Evo 4G.
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Wow you certainly do read alot more into what pppl type than they intend don't you?
Never said it couldn't be done, just said it would be tougher than the usual port around here.
And the Evo was a ginger to ginger port, not ICS to an HC device.
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Wow you certainly do read alot more into what pppl type than they intend don't you?
Never said it couldn't be done, just said it would be tougher than the usual port around here.
And the Evo was a ginger to ginger port, not ICS to an HC device.
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Right back at ya -- I never stated or even implied that you said it couldn't be done. I simply stated a fact that was related to this same subject.
FYI, the Evo was a Gingerbread with Sense 3.0 (Evo 3D) to Froyo with Sense 1.0 (Evo 4G) port.
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Right back at ya -- I never stated or even implied that you said it couldn't be done. I simply stated a fact that was related to this same subject.
FYI, the Evo was a Gingerbread with Sense 3.0 (Evo 3D) to Froyo with Sense 1.0 (Evo 4G) port.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/06/24/htc-evo-4g-vs-evo-shift-vs-evo-3d-battle-of-the-specs/
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Sigh...
That comparison was written in June, which is also when the Gingerbread OTA was released for the Evo 4G, but it was not rootable yet and new Evo 4Gs weren't shipping with Gingerbread yet. A month prior to that we already had numerous Evo Shift ports (Gingerbread with Sense 2.X) and about the same time we got Evo 3D ports (Gingerbread with Sense 3.0) from a leaked pre-production image.
The Evo 4G model is over a year old. Gingerbread wasn't released then. It's a Froyo phone. Why you insist on attempting to correct me about a phone that I own and use is beyond me.
Available Nov 7th? Like, to buy?
*cough* bull**** *cough*
Okay maybe to, like, pre-order... Sure. I don't see it getting in anyone hands until at least Dec. I'm still sticking with 2012 though.
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Available Nov 7th? Like, to buy?
*cough* bull**** *cough*
Okay maybe to, like, pre-order... Sure. I don't see it getting in anyone hands until at least Dec. I'm still sticking with 2012 though.
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Here's an article on it with video. It looks SWEET!
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...t-the-world-has-been-waiting-for-video-28283/
Was thinking about starting an entirely new thread just for that link like everyone else around here lol
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Sigh...
That comparison was written in June, which is also when the Gingerbread OTA was released for the Evo 4G, but it was not rootable yet and new Evo 4Gs weren't shipping with Gingerbread yet. A month prior to that we already had numerous Evo Shift ports (Gingerbread with Sense 2.X) and about the same time we got Evo 3D ports (Gingerbread with Sense 3.0) from a leaked pre-production image.
The Evo 4G model is over a year old. Gingerbread wasn't released then. It's a Froyo phone. Why you insist on attempting to correct me about a phone that I own and use is beyond me.
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I agree. Ive had my evo since froyo been rooted the whole time. Gingerbread came pretty late in the realistic life span of the phone.
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Sigh...
That comparison was written in June, which is also when the Gingerbread OTA was released for the Evo 4G, but it was not rootable yet and new Evo 4Gs weren't shipping with Gingerbread yet. A month prior to that we already had numerous Evo Shift ports (Gingerbread with Sense 2.X) and about the same time we got Evo 3D ports (Gingerbread with Sense 3.0) from a leaked pre-production image.
The Evo 4G model is over a year old. Gingerbread wasn't released then. It's a Froyo phone. Why you insist on attempting to correct me about a phone that I own and use is beyond me.
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