Im hesitant about rooting my phone or not. If I root my phone, I think the bad guys could stole my information or do bad things to my device.
Or maybe when some app for example root explorer needs admin rights android will ask for them (like windows 7)?
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Rooting a phone gives you 'administrative' rights similar to on a PC, it gives you more control over the phone and allows access to system files which would usually be hidden if you was not rooted.
Rooting is easy and is reversible. it is not dangerous and quite a lot of apps require root access.
sammy_user said:
Im hesitant about rooting my phone or not. If I root my phone, I think the bad guys could stole my information or do bad things to my device.
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The "good" bad guys can do it regardless what you do
sammy_user said:
Or maybe when some app for example root explorer needs admin rights android will ask for them (like windows 7)?
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Yes you will be prompted by the superuser app.
Thanks. But if you are not root when you buy sgs, why can you install new apps that if im correct go to the data folder (root required)?
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Thanks. But if you are not root when you buy sgs, why can you install new apps that if im correct go to the data folder (root required)?
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When you first buy your phone you CAN'T install Apps that require root access... you need to root your phone first.
Most Apps don't require root as they aren't installed in the Ram but on the internal SD card. This is the same Ram vs flash memory arrangement that has been used with mobile devices since the Palm Pilot.
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rschenck said:
When you first buy your phone you CAN'T install Apps that require root access... you need to root your phone first.
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You CAN install Apps that require root access they just wont run as you want them too
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Most Apps don't require root as they aren't installed in the Ram but on the internal SD card. This is the same Ram vs flash memory arrangement that has been used with mobile devices since the Palm Pilot.Sent from my GT-I9000T using XDA Premium App
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I am not sure I understand this or its right or wrong. Am just confused about this
However to the OP question. Installing from the market/app isn't the same as you copying the file yourself. So your question is pointless. If a process/app/mechanism already has access to it, like the market what is has to do with you not being rooted in the beginning?
The bad guys that came with the rooting of my phone, made my phone 10 times faster and smoother..
So I love those little bad guys!
rooting is the first step to a new world... welcome
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Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
Were would I find the rooted roms?
DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.
Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.
Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this
Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...
I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.
Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.
Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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Can we use SuperOneClick Root to root this device? Any ideas?
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No, that's for the Galaxy S phones, to root your phone download "VISIONary" from the market, that will root it for you
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Nice but it didn't list the model as one of the choices?
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There is no root yet. Have to wait
visionary works but it will unroot itself the second you reset the phone, it will be fine if you leave quickboot on though
This is crazy, but why would someone want to root this phone?
Custom Roms, Free Wireless Tethering, Overclocking, Undervolting, that kinda stuff.
for me it was to use titanium backup
Akulamenuri said:
Custom Roms, Free Wireless Tethering, Overclocking, Undervolting, that kinda stuff.
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Freedom man, freedom.
I would need to underclock my processor when I get it.
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How could anyone NOT want to root this phone? I cant wait for permroot to put some CM love on this...
Here's hoping it will get rooted.
/beer
Oh yeah!
No planning on new roms this one works awesome...the only reason I used visionary is cause screen shots ....that's it..
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ajftl said:
No planning on new roms this one works awesome...the only reason I used visionary is cause screen shots ....that's it..
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What app do you use for Screenshots? I used Visionary and ShootMe says it can't get permission.
EDIT: I ran Visionary a second time and got it to work...
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This is crazy, but why would someone want to root this phone?
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I've rooted every Android phone I've had, only to add features that it didn't have, but this phone, no thanks, no need for root - it has everything I've ever rooted for ready to go right out of the box!
same for me.
PolishDude said:
for me it was to use titanium backup
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I'll root to get apps installed to sd
kaiso said:
I'll root to get apps installed to sd
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Can't you already do that? I don't really see the need with this phone though, seeing as it has 1GB of internal space.
I use titanium backup with tem root OK. However, I want to do image backups, and need permanent root to be able to restore them.
Alos, currently using a cleaned up base ROM on my Nexus. I would really like to see a TMO cleaned-up-cleaned-out ROM someday - they loaded this up with way too much junk.
Will fiddle with the work-arounds in the meantime, but permanent root and cleaned up ROM is the only way to go.
I was curious about how the root exploit that unlocks our phones for all this great dev stuff works. Found this explanation, and it was quite good. For those with sufficient unix/linux knowlege, this will be totally understandable, so I'd recommend following the link, and reading the in-depth explanation, complete with C code. For those with less background in this stuff, it's still worth a read, but you'll have to work harder to understand exactly what's going on.
Post any questions in this thread, and I'll be happy to answer them!
This is a good explanation, I read something similar when rage was released, may hve even been this. But I'm pretty versed with linux and am overly versed in C...to the point where I have nightmares....
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Hi and sorry for the bump guys,
Does anybody know how to do the rageagainstthecage root with an LG Optimus One P503? I have tried everything - Simple Root, SuperOneClick, VISIONary, z4root, nothing is working! I really need this root because my phone did not come with Android market and I want to install it through ADB, and I think that requires a root correct? Even if I can't root my phone, is there any way to install an apk to my phone's internal storage and not my SD card?
Thanks for reading this!
By rooting lol
I know for the opimus s you have to force a flash of an older software for z4 to root.
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no you dont need to root to install thru adb. just open up command/terminal,
adb install /blah/blah/phoneapphere.apk
alternatively you can put it on your sd card and use a file manager to locate the apk and install it on the phone.. for a nice easy root, use gingerbreak its the latest un patched exploit.. theres an apk version on xda it will root your phone no issues
HTC Merge Root?
shabbypenguin said:
no you dont need to root to install thru adb. just open up command/terminal,
adb install /blah/blah/phoneapphere.apk
alternatively you can put it on your sd card and use a file manager to locate the apk and install it on the phone.. for a nice easy root, use gingerbreak its the latest un patched exploit.. theres an apk version on xda it will root your phone no issues
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Can I use this on the kinda new HTC Merge? (I get it next weekend).
Spec: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909
What would be the best way to root this phone?
[HTC Sense, 2.2 Froyo, CDMA/GSM, Qwerty kb - it's main backbone i guess.]
Thanks in advance
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Can I use this on the kinda new HTC Merge? (I get it next weekend).
Spec: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909
What would be the best way to root this phone?
[HTC Sense, 2.2 Froyo, CDMA/GSM, Qwerty kb - it's main backbone i guess.]
Thanks in advance
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you do realize that this is the Epic 4G section, right ?
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you do realize that this is the Epic 4G section, right ?
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Yes but thats why hes asking if it can be used for the other phone. Specs wise, both phones are almost the same internally.
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Yes but thats why hes asking if it can be used for the other phone. Specs wise, both phones are almost the same internally.
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specs don't really dictate which exploit will work on a device though.
If the bootloader is locked on the HTC, there's going to be a different workaround to root it.
just sayin'
Hello people,
I'm relatively new to the Android wold (1 month) and I bought an Arc from my Carrier.
I'm kinda satisfied but I really dislike the way some applications can't be removed (I count something like 20 applications between the carrier and Sony Ericsson partners).
So, I'm considering rooting the phone, but there is a lot of informations I shall process before doing it and I am a little bit unsure about some facts, so I hope you would help me. Here's my questions:
Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
Thanks by anticipation for your answers.
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New and simple way to root Arc / Arc S with locked bootloaders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1320350
Yes, you'll still be able to update via SEUS as long as your bootloader remains locked. But you'll lose root once you update.
Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
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If the crapware is using up space you need, then that's a pretty good reason to get rid IMO. If SE had left us with a bit more free space it might not be such an issue. Also, root lets you do lots of cool things with your phone that you cant do otherwise.
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
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If you have 2.3.4 then the best bet seems to be the zergRush method detailed here. Havent tried it yet myself, but planning to soon.
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
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Dont think of rooting as giving *you* superuser access, think of it more as allowing you to choose which *apps* have superuser access. Apps with superuser access can do things normal apps cant. Think of the apps as the users of the system - you're just interacting with normal or privileged apps.
When you root, a superuser access app gets installed. Then whenever a non-system app requests su permissions, the superuser app will ask you whether to allow or deny those permissions (you can allow the app permanently or have it ask every time).
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
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Yup you will still be able update via OTA or via SEUS. Updating via SEUS will remove root, but so far OTA updates have maintained root (no guarantee this will continue in the future though).
don't delete just freeze
i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it
Thank you Daveybaby, and thanks Hush066 too.
Now, I'm a bit more aware of what's the rooting process and I shall say you both fired quickly an answer to each topic. I think I'll try the rooting, after the weekend.
Thanks you again.
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i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it
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What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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XperienceD said:
All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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I'm sorry, it's true I've posted a bit fast. Yet, I didn't found the sticky talking about freezing apps, but I found out I have to root the phone, even if I only wish to freeze the apps.
Now I know I'll have to root the device (the bloatwares are starting to annoy me a great deal) should I uninstall or freeze the carrier apps.
Thanks again for every answers.
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What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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Apps such as Titanium Backup allows you to either uninstall or freeze a system app. Freezing the app just disables it while uninstalling will completely remove it from the phone.
that is the question.
opinions?
Well...of course root!!! Samsung will never even know after a simple Odin back to stock
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Instant root! You will get more options like ad block and so on
Root dude get rid of that bloatware
yeah !! overclock and underclock!! remove bloatware and use flash zips + backup via CWM
root or die!
edi itelman said:
that is the question.
opinions?
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you shouldn't root your phone if you have to ask.
Root all the (Android) things!
There's no reason to NOT root a device, there are tons of reasons TO root.... Hell, my PC running Bluestacks right now has been rooted! Hacked that SOB to run whatever size "SD card" I want it to have, just because it was possible
Rooting for sure, can't live without adblocking now especially how ridiculous the ads are becoming.
Yep +1, I'll be rooted within minutes of receiving mine. As usual.
krabman said:
Yep +1, I'll be rooted within minutes of receiving mine. As usual.
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Well same here haha. Even if there are no ROMs available when I first get it, I'll just deodex, zip align and remove all the bloatware ASAP
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Just hoping Samsung will not make further improvements against resetting the flash counter...
ROOT ROOT ROOT!! Coz it's really fRUITfUL :thumbup:
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If you find the need to
I'll root but just for Cerberus and ad block, I like the Samsung stuff
Always rooted my devices. The s4 will have the same fate!