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Root or wait for Android 2.2?

Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?

Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.

Were would I find the rooted roms?

DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.

Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.

Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.

nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this

Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!

Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...

I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.

Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(

^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?

I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.

Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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Unrevoked...what will it do?

Okay...I am curious. I what will of do to my HTC Evo? What will of allow me to do and what problems will it cause? I see people writing about having problems when they root. Is the Unrevoked way a "safer" generic way of rooting?
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I'm new too flashing roms and all and I just rooted my evo yesterday from Unrevoked it was kinda easy I only did it cuz I wanted the free wireless tether app.my take is u get seamless options.I'm hoping I can install a custom theme to my stock rom.gl

Is it does it give you an option to unrest in just in case you have to take it into Sprint for warranty purposes?
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Yes you can unroot if you need to. You don't do it through unrevoked but by running something called the stock ruu. Its an .exe file. Its pretty simple and once you start reading threads and flashing roms and such you will understand more.

I used unrevoked a few weeks ago and have no problems. Only good came of it. I have free WiFi wireless tether,removed unwanted bloatware, and get to use some apps that only work with rooted devices.
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What would I need to do/download to be able to het my phone back to its original setting?
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You would need a stock RUU installer i believe.

Flash the unrevoked s-on tool and then run the latest ruu.
chefdrew said:
What would I need to do/download to be able to het my phone back to its original setting?
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Has Unrevoked ever bricked anyone's phone...that is known of?
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Also, how do I know which one to do? Unrevoked3 or Unrevoked forever. Then, do I do it for Linux or Windows or Mac OS?
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you just use unrevoked 3. the forever radio s-off exploit is included. people have gotten bricked phones from it, but not many. i'd run it on mac because it is by far the easiest (one click versus windows driver install, more drivers, instructions, one more driver, then one click).
then again, i would use the zikronix method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
it is much more difficult, but once you are done, you are an android expert. you know everything there is to know (almost). with unrevoked, you know bubkus...
(i always wanted to use that word)

just use unrevoked and be done with it

aweskelo said:
just use unrevoked and be done with it
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sure, and be an absolute blank in android for months. have no idea what you are doing, and find out you cant upgrade to gingerbread when it comes out. try and flash the rom, and brick your phone cuz u dont kno how. OR use the link i posted. not as hard as you think. i'm always open to helping people on that too.

Is this way of rooting the HTC evo up to date? Does it matter that my phone was just updated through Sprint?
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*facepalm*
www.unrevoked.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
now try the search button. very helpful.

Im rooted with Unrevoked,, Can I install custom roms with it ?
I am rooted with Unrevoked 3 , But I would like to install custom rom Kings Bad Luck Rom. Can I do that withe Unrevoked?

engelsione said:
I am rooted with Unrevoked 3 , But I would like to install custom rom Kings Bad Luck Rom. Can I do that withe Unrevoked?
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yes
10char

Roots and NAND Unlocks EVO for rom flashing and updating firmware components as well as the bootloader,
I used Unrevoked to root
Unrevoked-Forever to NAND unlock,
and a restore to stock via a RUU + Unrevoked-SON will basically undo EVERYTHING and get you back to an Out of Box configuration

weehooherod said:
Unrevoked roots AND nand unlocks. FORGET ABOUT UNREVOKED FOREVER. You DO NOT need it. Unrevoked forever makes your phone easily rootable even if you install an over the air update. But it unlocks your bootloader forever which permanently voids your warranty. Root your Evo with Unrevoked and just don't accept an over the air update. So if you even get a screen saying there is an update available just click no and carry on with your life. Easy enough. Head over to xda once you see that update notification and there will be a pre-rooted version of the update for you. This way you'll still be able to unroot when you need warranty repairs.
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Unrevoked Forever is included in Unrevoked3, and no, it's not permanent. Flash the S-ON tool and run a RUU, and you're back to stock and your warranty is good again.

my favorite part of uv-forever is if you run an ruu but dont flash s-on then you can easily re-root.

Gingrerbread & Rooting

Hello everybody! I'm new to the forums. I also got a really big question to ask. Well I usually root my phone with Visionary using a TempRoot. Then I updaed my Evo Shift via OTA, or going to the HTC Software update thing and now I can't really root my phone I guess. Is there a solution to root my phone even though I have Gingerbread? If not right now, maybe soon? I really want to use the tethering app to tether to my PS3. PLEASE HELP!!!!

As of now no there is not. And it might take a while before there is one. Idk if your phone already came with the ota update, but if it didn't you could have waited cuz the same day the ota went live there was a rooted version here already.

Just about 2 hrs later it was rooted.Pretty much a fundemental, if htc or sprint push out an ota update it will unroot your phone.
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So basically I'm screwed???

anthonyyy15 said:
So basically I'm screwed???
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Not really, you'll just have to wait a little longer. At least you have Gingerbread unlike others who are still rocking eclair...;-p
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About how long???

You can use the sprint RUU to downgrade to froyo and then root it, worked for me, I'm not on my computer so I can't link it but it shouldn't be that hard to find. And instead of temp rooting it there's a nice gui in the dev section that will perm root it pretty easily then u can flash the rooted 2.3 update through CWM
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pwnyourace said:
You can use the sprint RUU to downgrade to froyo and then root it, worked for me, I'm not on my computer so I can't link it but it shouldn't be that hard to find. And instead of temp rooting it there's a nice gui in the dev section that will perm root it pretty easily then u can flash the rooted 2.3 update through CWM
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That worked for you? That's cool I thought the new hboot couldn't be overwritten that way. It might be hit or miss though I read others were getting errors when trying to ruu the stock 2.2
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dabiddabird said:
That worked for you? That's cool I thought the new hboot couldn't be overwritten that way. It might be hit or miss though I read others were getting errors when trying to ruu the stock 2.2
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I'll try it out right now. If I could find it. BUT I REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU. No homo

Now wouldn't the RUU thing erase all the data on my phone. Do I need a computer to use the RUU thing?

You will need a computer but if you remember setting up your gingerbread update it asks if you want to back up your device on google..... Use ruu to go back root and flash a rom like cm7 and you can restore your device or you can use titanium backup to... Well... Back up and restore your apps. Also google as you know backs up your contacts. So you should be set.... Anyone else let me know if there is something i missed.
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drewbuchman said:
You will need a computer but if you remember setting up your gingerbread update it asks if you want to back up your device on google..... Use ruu to go back root and flash a rom like cm7 and you can restore your device or you can use titanium backup to... Well... Back up and restore your apps. Also google as you know backs up your contacts. So you should be set.... Anyone else let me know if there is something i missed.
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I'm tremendously sorry, but can you walk me through the steps. Like how to use and where to get the RUU. I just don't want to mess up my phone or waste time. Please, I REALLY appreciate your help.

anthonyyy15 said:
I'm tremendously sorry, but can you walk me through the steps. Like how to use and where to get the RUU. I just don't want to mess up my phone or waste time. Please, I REALLY appreciate your help.
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The RUU can be found in the Evo Shift wiki by going to the following URL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Speedy
Luckily the RUU pretty much walks you through the process itself. You'll need the HTC sync drivers if I remember correctly in order for it to find your phone. You should be all good. Good luck, dood

anthonyyy15 said:
I'm tremendously sorry, but can you walk me through the steps. Like how to use and where to get the RUU. I just don't want to mess up my phone or waste time. Please, I REALLY appreciate your help.
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I just tried this on my and another phone and got a error 170 boot loader i will see if i get some more shifts in today and try it on them i hope what your trying do do is possible but ill keep you updated.

drewbuchman said:
I just tried this on my and another phone and got a error 170 boot loader i will see if i get some more shifts in today and try it on them i hope what your trying do do is possible but ill keep you updated.
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Anything yet?

I have not been able to do tis all day at work i tried 3 different devices and no go im starting to think that its not possible and you will have to wait for a new root.. (which is never a long wait).... Thanks to the fine people here at XDA.

Updating to Tmobile Gingerbread with rooted phone

Can anyone confirm that it is safe to take your phone to Tmobile and have them update the software on a rooted mytouch 4g? I just want to make sure I am not going to brick my phone...

makkunbakkun said:
Can anyone confirm that it is safe to take your phone to Tmobile and have them update the software on a rooted mytouch 4g? I just want to make sure I am not going to brick my phone...
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you should be good to update but you will lose your root and there is no way to root 2.3.4 right now

It's safe I took mine in and did it
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WOLF26915 said:
you should be good to update but you will lose your root and there is no way to root 2.3.4 right now
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that would be a big sacrifice if we want to update

khathaivu said:
that would be a big sacrifice if we want to update
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I agree but i guess thats the price you pay to get the stock 2.3.4 right now

I spent most of the weekend researching what to do about this very thing. I was rooted but stock rom. I figured I needed a decision on what I was going to do before the OTA arrived.
After a lot of research I decided to go full S=off and install the Virtuous Unity ROM. I like Sense and it is a 3.0 ROM. If you wait for TMOB you'll only get 2.1.
EVERYTHING in this ROM works. None of the
"YOU GET THREADED TEXT MESSAGES!!! but the camera doesn't work"
Like in the bad old days of windows rooting.
I only wish I'd done this 6 months ago.

Yea every thing works but im wondering wit s off no root what can u do ?
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makkunbakkun said:
Can anyone confirm that it is safe to take your phone to Tmobile and have them update the software on a rooted mytouch 4g? I just want to make sure I am not going to brick my phone...
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Is it your intention to return to stock and run the phone unrooted with the 2.3.4 update or are you just concerned about having 2.3.4 on your phone? If you are looking for the most recent version of of Android OS, then MIUI is currently running 2.3.5... If you havent tried GenerationX mysense ROM, it is the newest update with bloat removed and i think there isnt anything broken with the faux's .7 kernel. Try it if you like stock, I bet you will like it.

I just want to get this straight, if someone can give an answer. My wife's phone currently has iced glacier and I want to go stock GB. If I take the phone to a Tmo store and ask for the update, it will take the phone back to stock and unroot? If so should I at least uninstall super user?

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I just want to get this straight, if someone can give an answer. My wife's phone currently has iced glacier and I want to go stock GB. If I take the phone to a Tmo store and ask for the update, it will take the phone back to stock and unroot? If so should I at least uninstall super user?
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You could go to the store or you can download the same T Mobile sdcard update that Gr33nF0x posted http://megaupload.com/?d=N8XGHXJC (IF YOU ARE ROOTED YOU WILL LOSE IT)
1. Download the PD15IMG.zip file posted
2. Put file on the root of your sdcard (don't put it in any folder)
3. go to settings/applications make sure fastboot is unchecked (on 2.2.1)
4.power off
5. push and hold volume down and power till you get into hboot
6. it will scan file when its done it should ask you to update push volume up

badaphooko01 said:
I just want to get this straight, if someone can give an answer. My wife's phone currently has iced glacier and I want to go stock GB. If I take the phone to a Tmo store and ask for the update, it will take the phone back to stock and unroot? If so should I at least uninstall super user?
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The answer is yes. If you load the update, whether download the one on the forums here or update at T-mo you will lose root. No need to uninstall superuser, because the update will wipe all data.

Thanks guys for the quick response.
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badaphooko01 said:
Thanks guys for the quick response.
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Why do you wanna go to being unrooted? There's rooted versions of the OTA here.

Ace42 said:
Why do you wanna go to being unrooted? There's rooted versions of the OTA here.
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Maybe he is no longer interested in having a super badass phone and wants to have a boring stock rom
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eqjunkie829 said:
Maybe he is no longer interested in having a super badass phone and wants to have a boring stock rom
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Its my wifes phone and dosent need to mod it just needs to work properly. If I was to go the route of updating it with the rooted update, would I just need to flash through CW? To be honest I don't have much expreince with this phone as you can tell by how old her current rom is. Atleast with my phone its pretty much unbrickable, on this phone I wouldn't know how to recover if it did. I figure if tmobile does the update they are responsible for it. Is someone willing to post the steps for me?
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badaphooko01 said:
Its my wifes phone and dosent need to mod it just needs to work properly. If I was to go the route of updating it with the rooted update, would I just need to flash through CW? To be honest I don't have much expreince with this phone as you can tell by how old her current rom is. Atleast with my phone its pretty much unbrickable, on this phone I wouldn't know how to recover if it did. I figure if tmobile does the update they are responsible for it. Is someone willing to post the steps for me?
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If you want T Mobile to do it go to your local store let them do the sdcard update witch is the same as the one I posted one page back (Thanks goes to Gr33nF0x for uploading it) or wait for the OTA

eqjunkie829 said:
Maybe he is no longer interested in having a super badass phone and wants to have a boring stock rom
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^^^
funny

so i can still UPDATE even if i'm not rooted?

armstrong87 said:
so i can still UPDATE even if i'm not rooted?
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yes you can

[Q] Can someone help me temp root my mytouch 4g?

Does anyone out there know how to temp root the mytouch 4g 2.3.4??

vtrinh93 said:
Does anyone out there know how to temp root the mytouch 4g 2.3.4??
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seriously?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=downgrade+mytouch+4g+2.3.4+to+2.2.1
a simple search could've given you an answer.
also, PLEASE check out my thread for newcomers in my signature. also check out neidlinger's.

I don't want to downgrade, I want to temp root on gingerbread just to uninstall the system apps

vtrinh93 said:
I don't want to downgrade, I want to temp root on gingerbread just to uninstall the system apps
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as of currently you cannot temp or permaroot 2.3.4. You must downgrade first.
Nothing you can do.

vtrinh93 said:
I don't want to downgrade, I want to temp root on gingerbread just to uninstall the system apps
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Read dude... There is a section in the downgrade thread that tells you how to temp root 2.3.4. Please read the whole thing
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Why would you want temp root?

Jeb_Sanders said:
Why would you want temp root?
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That and they don't understand how this phones works. Anything that is done in a "Temp rooted" state will be returned to an OE fashion once the phone is turned off. So even if you do delete it. It'll come back.

I want to temp root because im scared to downgrade and perm root.

Well, looks like you're out of luck. Temp-rooting won't get you anywhere, since the system is protected by the bootloader lock, and without perm-root you won't be able to do anything. As already stated, all you do under temp-root will not stick, and will be lost on first reboot.
So you either give up the idea of messing with the stock OS altogether, or grab the balls to do a downgrade and perm-root. Nothing left in between...

Rooting this particular phone is what makes it really worth having it, IMO, so long as you're comfortable with the process.

vtrinh93 said:
I want to temp root because im scared to downgrade and perm root.
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Why don't you just not root at all? Temp root won't get you far at all...
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vtrinh93 said:
Does anyone out there know how to temp root the mytouch 4g 2.3.4??
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Also all that's been said you can downgrade and flash a rooted stock gingerbread Rom. There's no way to temp root. Sorry.
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Thank you guys for all the help. Now does anyone know a good 3.5 sense rom with beats on it? Or any 3.5 sense rom. I'd like the one with beats if they have it though.

Development section has 3 of them (at least), and all have Beats.