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Well, on release date I ran to the bell store on got my new shiny galaxy s i9000m. Since then I have had my phone cut off. I called mother bell to find they think my phone has been tethered with my laptop (which was stolen last sunday ) even though I have never tethered with this phone. It seems it is logging my web surfing data properly but any data an app uses seems to be counted as out of plan tendering. Before u ask I do have an "unlimited data" plan and am keeping 3g usage well under 5gb. First is anyone else having this fight with bell and do u think it could have something to do with apn settings. My phone is not rooted (yet) as I want to leave everything stock until they fix the billing issue.
It is increasing my bill by between $200 and $500. What a joke
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this is the reason i don't want to use bell
good lord Fido, protect us all
sorry to hear that, but thanks for share, it is definitely something we should be aware of.
SGS i9000 phone is a data hungry device, specially if you have lots of sync with emails, facebook, tweet, weather, etc, etc....
but regardless of any of that, even if you go as far as backing up your ROM to an online storage, it will not consume so much data
the worst part is WTH is wrong with Bell? you got the unlimited data plan, so why the hell are they trying to charge you $500
this is ridiculous.
They think that app data on the phone is tethered data. And being that I don't have a tendering plan they are charging me $6 per mb. Nice huh. After they told me to pay and get lost twice I went to the store and had a fit. Store believed me and got hung up on when trying to fix the issue with the call center. They are escalating it but in the mean time I am accumulatING lots is coin on my bill
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I am having the very same issue as you on bell with the i9000. I am covered under the new 6GB plan but i am getting charged pay per use an well as in plan usage. I am alreeady over 100mb in pay per use (600$ i beleive) even though i never tether my phone and tethering is included anyways.... I called bell and they said i shouldnt have to worry about anything once my bill comes as it will be taken care of... i sure hope so.
d3a said:
I am having the very same issue as you on bell with the i9000. I am covered under the new 6GB plan but i am getting charged pay per use an well as in plan usage. I am alreeady over 100mb in pay per use (600$ i beleive) even though i never tether my phone and tethering is included anyways.... I called bell and they said i shouldnt have to worry about anything once my bill comes as it will be taken care of... i sure hope so.
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They are full of it. They will bill u if it is being marked as out of plan. I have a hand delivered mail from them telling me I owe $2000 for tethering . I can add your info into my general complaint if u want. Pm me and I can pass your info onto the regional manager the local store is dealing with to prove they need to fix there ****
On a side note my apn looks to be setup to use the phone for tethering and does not use the suggested nexus one apn settings again I feel that all data NOT traveling over port 80 or not travelling through the browser is being considered tethering by their proxy
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Unlimited data isn't a normal plan option so maybe they're confused. I didn't even think you could get unlimited data. I know they had unlimited mobile browsing but I would think that's just web browsing if you grandfathered that feature in.
I have a very old grandfatherd smartphone data plan. At the time they offered 500mb or unlimited. The trick is unlimited means 5gb and then they start pulling out the network abuse card to have legal course to shut down your data. Kinda like the unlimited plans in the US.
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Well, definitely keep arguing with them, but unless your plan is godly you can also grab 6 GB of data for $30, which includes tethering. Then they can't accuse you of tethering anymore, so they'll just accuse you of roaming data charges instead >_>
Have you had an HSPA smartphone before or just CDMA ones? If this is your first HSPA phone maybe the plan transfer from CDMA didn't go properly. This is Bell we're talking about, staffed by idiots.
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Well, definitely keep arguing with them, but unless your plan is godly you can also grab 6 GB of data for $30, which includes tethering. Then they can't accuse you of tethering anymore, so they'll just accuse you of roaming data charges instead >_>
Have you had an HSPA smartphone before or just CDMA ones? If this is your first HSPA phone maybe the plan transfer from CDMA didn't go properly. This is Bell we're talking about, staffed by idiots.
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that is a good point. I did have a cdma smartphone b4 so I never know. I am paying $40 for my data but that also includes enhanced vm, unlimited txt and mms, and caller is so I will have trouble giving up what I have as to add those features to the data plan u have would cost more than what I pay now. Currently I have an awesome plan setup between two phones and if I had to restructure it would cost way more
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You might want to check you APN settings.
Some carriers use different APN for phone data and tethered data.
In my case, first time I booted my GS, it was the thethered data APN that was selected and I had to change it (hopefully I always check APN settings when using a new phone).
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You might want to check you APN settings.
Some carriers use different APN for phone data and tethered data.
In my case, first time I booted my GS, it was the thethered data APN that was selected and I had to change it (hopefully I always check APN settings when using a new phone).
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That is exactly what I was think as one of my posts stated. Thank-you for the confirmation on that. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca which on bells site is used if u want to tether. Because I am on an older smartphone plan I believe it is thinking all app data is tethered data.
P. S. These forum posts have cost me like $10 as I am using the xda app. Lol. They are saying they will get back to me mid next week about this
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I just checked and my APN is also inet.bell.ca. I don't know if it's supposed to be something else but when I go to self serve it says I've been using data in-plan. I'm covered for tethering anyway, but still, if that's the tethering APN they shouldn't make it the default for this reason.
I'm Getting billed fine.. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca .. I just checked my un-billed usage and it shows all usage in-plan Data use. I have used about 20meg since the 8th also I just have 500meg data plan a month..
I agree. The settings for the nexus one are different and probably the right ones for my data plan however I don't want to change them yet as they will probably tell me that I must have stopped tethering after I got the letter from bell and stick me with the charges. Until mid next week I need to be able to reproduce the issue so I van prove they are retarded.
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Mine is set to inet.bell.ca and i'm getting billed OK... shows all usage in-plan Data use.
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Are u on a data plan that includes tethering? I think all the data plans within the last year have. I have an older one that is saving me money over the new ones
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Are u on a data plan that includes tethering? I think all the data plans within the last year have. I have an older one that is saving me money over the new ones
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Ya all the new plans do included Tethering.. just checked... your likely right as to the reason this is happening to you.. the computer system is not seeing that you have a data plan.. might take a few level up to fix that for you but I have a feeling if this is what is happening there are others as well having the same issue.
yeah Im going to call in right now and tell them to fix it right away, Im rightfully paying for my 6GB data package, I WILL NOT pay them a cent more than I agree to. 30$ is quite enough already for 6GB.
BTW i changed it to pda.bell.com and it seems to be working... ill keep you guys informed.
On a side not, if they were smart i think they would charge at least simi reasonable rates for out of plan data usage while roaming or not... ie 1$ per megabyte. That way people would travel with their phones and actually bring in more revenue for said provider... I dont carry my phone while i travel because of the ridiculous 54$/mb.
Lol. Without roaming ire is 6 per meg. I just calculated the total they think i owe and it Ian up to $ 3408 since Aug 6th. Gotta love it.
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On a side note my apn looks to be setup to use the phone for tethering and does not use the suggested nexus one apn settings again I feel that all data NOT traveling over port 80 or not travelling through the browser is being considered tethering by their proxy
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that exactly is.
Bell is stuck in the ancient times, they believe only WAP and port 80 browsing is web, and everything else is over use.... like WTF? wake up, we are in the 21s century already, we are not stuck in web only phones.
At least Fido and Rogers are less knuckle heads as Bell
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That is exactly what I was think as one of my posts stated. Thank-you for the confirmation on that. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca which on bells site is used if u want to tether. Because I am on an older smartphone plan I believe it is thinking all app data is tethered data.
P. S. These forum posts have cost me like $10 as I am using the xda app. Lol. They are saying they will get back to me mid next week about this
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you know what, raise them hell
put your video on YouTube or something, remember the guy from Virgin in Canada, same ****, Virgin tried to charge him $8000 on data usage on his iphone.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/06/“...ks-up-8k-wireless-bill-while-visiting-france/
I'll vote for you, lets create a new facebook or twiter account to raise this issue.
the media will pick it up in a snap.
Over at AndroidCentral they said you can no longer tether for free if u do it will cause u 14.99 a month? Is this legit? PDA Net is now rendered useless? Anyone shed some light on this?
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Although we already knew that a new plan for customers that want to Tether was coming soon and then yesteday, confirmed for November 3rd, the folks over at BGR have recieved details on the new tethering plan. T-Mobile will officially offer the $14.99 /MonthTethering and WiFi-Sharing Add-On beginning November 3rd. The plan will allow subscribers to use their smartphones as a tethered modem or Wi-Fi hotspot. To qualify for the $14.99 Tethering add-on, you will need to have a 3G/HSPA+ capable handset in addition to an unlimited web plan of $19.95 or higher. The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled. The plan will be available for Postpaid and Flex Pay Customers.
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To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
What I'm wondering is what's going to happen to everyone that was grandfathered in with the 10gig data softcap. Do they stay with 10gig data plans or are they knocked down to 5gig softcaps. Yes, I understand it still unlimited but I'm not interested on tethering with an Edge connection.
Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
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If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?
Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.
If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".
Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.
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The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled.
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i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.
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I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.
This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.
Or I could just be flat out wrong.
This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/
via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.
I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.
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So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
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No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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hawaiian.monzta said:
But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.
http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1732&sid=e733dc9116b44cbd8eaa770dbba60479
looks interesting, hope it's legit.
What about for simple mobile?
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With all the new kernels and rom developments lately, my Vibrant is running better than ever before. If this gets confirmed, that's icing on the cake. I could easily stick with this phone for a while.
Just went on the t-mobile website and changed my plan from "T-Mobile Android Unlimited Web" to Unlimited 4G Web. It says it will take up to 24 hours to change, so I will report maybe tomorrow on if I get increased speeds or not.
Hmm, interesting. My wife got a G2 and we switched our plan to an unlimited one an now I have 4g enabled on my plan (says 4g web) but I never really bothered checking speeds. But it might explain why I've been able to stream at 128kbs on tune in radio. I'll need to investigate this more.
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anthonys2r said:
Just went on the t-mobile website and changed my plan from "T-Mobile Android Unlimited Web" to Unlimited 4G Web. It says it will take up to 24 hours to change, so I will report maybe tomorrow on if I get increased speeds or not.
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If you buy any 3G or HSPA+ non-Blackberry smartphone they will put you on the 4G plan. The Android plan is being phased out for a more "general" data plan, and them calling it a 4G Web Plan has no impact on your download or upload speeds. It's practically the same thing.
Went through this with them on the phone when I got my HD7 because I noticed the "Android Unlimited Web" on my Vibrant's SIM (I put hte Unlimited Data in the HD7 and a 200MB plan SIM in the Vibrant). They said it was no difference, but to change it anyways since they're phasing those plans out.
This allows them to have only two types of data plans, like other carriers: Blackberry Plans and a General Data Plan. Before they had Blackberry Plans, Andorid Plans, and a General 3G data plan.
Since most if not all newer smartphones (except mid-range/low-end smartphones and features phones) will be HSPA+ (they call it 4G), they just call it a "4G Web" plan.
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Correct, I'll verify this.
4G web plans do NOT affect download speeds in the slightest, anything someone may think they noticed simply is experiencing a placebo effect.
Older grandfathered plans simply differentiated devices, now the '4G' moniker is used for all plans on any smartphone - be it Windows Mobile, Android, or Blackberry. Blackberry plans are the exception however, as they don't work correctly with other devices as they route through the BIS server. Case in point, theres even a '4G Blackberry web' plan, but no current Blackberry is remotely near 4G, they cap at 3.6 Mbps.
The only things that will affect download speed are the actual terminal you are using and the backhaul of the towers in your present location.
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Thanks for the clarification. I knew this was not what it was being perceived as.
The idea that tmobile has to "enable 4g" from their customer service department seemed fairly ludicrous to me (I almost broke out the "Double facepalm" pic). Especially since my Vibrant connects to HSDPA the majority of the time which I'm fairly certain, since it's backward compatible, is actually the HSDPA+ (tmobile's "4G") network it was connecting to. I never enabled any 4G data plan. Or 3.5G for that matter.
This is also probably an attempt to get people to give up the Twenty to twenty-five dollar android data plans they've been holding onto since the G1 days.
yea, I just changed services to the new "naming scheme". It does nothing.
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yea, I just changed services to the new "naming scheme". It does nothing.
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Man, I really wanted to believe this would work. Anyone else try it out? I tried to see what mine would do, but when I looked at the services, it added 10 bucks to my overall plan, so I didn't go through with it. I'd love to see some other reviews about this.
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Man, I really wanted to believe this would work. Anyone else try it out? I tried to see what mine would do, but when I looked at the services, it added 10 bucks to my overall plan, so I didn't go through with it. I'd love to see some other reviews about this.
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Yea, I'm on flex pay and signed up with T-mobile when I got my Vibrant, so for me the price was the same.
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"4G used in connection with the Galaxy S™ 4G product name refers to the fact that the Galaxy S™ 4G is designed with HSPA+ technology."
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Go figure it out...
This is stupid
Guys, our Vibrants are not 4G devices and wont connect faster than 7Mbs. The plan is called a 4G plan but that doesn't mean that our hardware is capable of those speeds. Don't you think someone would have posted screen shots by now if they were hitting 4G speeds? C'mon you guys should know better than that.
anyone else notice the guy who supposedly worked in corporate in the tw thread is on flex pay....
now...im not at all sure how this works, and i might get flamed for this, but might as well ask.
So since the GS4G is the same as our phones, couldn't people just swap in the 4G radio in the the Vibrant? Much like the FFC mod?
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now...im not at all sure how this works, and i might get flamed for this, but might as well ask.
So since the GS4G is the same as our phones, couldn't people just swap in the 4G radio in the the Vibrant? Much like the FFC mod?
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do you like to solder? It'd be a much more involved upgrade.
I just tried it guys so i will give you the outcome tomorrow
This one time, I went to that place and I saw a leprechaun and he was like bro here's a bazillion dollars. But then I lost my camera and someone stole my money.
Sounds stupid right? Don't go upgrading your grandfathered data plans because this 4G data plan only costs more and wont speed up your phone.
Paging Dr B said:
This one time, I went to that place and I saw a leprechaun and he was like bro here's a bazillion dollars. But then I lost my camera and someone stole my money.
Sounds stupid right? Don't go upgrading your grandfathered data plans because this 4G data plan only costs more and wont speed up your phone.
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O M G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been trying to figure this out for YEARS! Was he like the mean guy from the movies or the guy from the cereal box? I HAVE TO KNOW!!!
I've been running phones on medianet unlimited for over 7 years now. In the past I saw threads where the original Nexus and Nexus S were detected by AT&T and were forced to use smartphone plans. Before purchasing this phone I wanted to check if this version of the Nexus was also detected as a smartphone. I've been using an international galaxy Note for a year on the $10 medianet plan and was hoping the Nexus 4 could also work on medianet.
Thanks
No, sorry
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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I think the question is not in th APN used, but if AT&T recognizes IMEI number as smartphone - if it does, it will force data plan on you.
I've been usin Nokia phones for several years across the family and haven't paid more than $10/month for unlimited internet...
Wonder if the same trick will work with Nexus 4...
Anyone n the know - could you please post?
when I get my N4, I plan on switching to medianet $15/month unlimited data. Hopefully they wont recognize the IMEI
Medianet plan does not work with nexus 4..just came from att store..and rep put medianet plan for me..but when i got home..i recived text from att that i have smartphone.
Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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foehammer92 said:
That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
pbpatel1981 said:
i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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decepticon said:
I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
pbpatel1981 said:
you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
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It is, you can find it by going to settings>about phone>status and look under mobile network type.
If your connection is idle it will say HSPA:10 but fire up Pandora or any music service and check, it will say HSPA:15
Just ordered the gn4 for the gf, hopefully the dumb phone data plan will still work for it
Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
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Thanks for the info about calling customer service! What do you usually tell them? I just got flagged on my gnex and will getting my nexus 4 soon. Should I say something along the lines of "I don't have a smart phone."
azncber said:
Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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AT&T doesn't seem to know this phone's a smartphone. When I switched my SIM from my Nexus One to the Nexus 4, my 2GB DataPro plan was removed and changed to whatever their dumbphone unlimtied plan was.
It was a pain in ass to get them to switch it back to a 2GB DataPro w/ LTE plan. Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
krhainos said:
Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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I didn't hear that MEdiaNet was throttled, but I did experience something similar to your situation. While on "wap.cingular", Speedtest.net would act strange(9kbps downstream, ~1mbit up). I went to the store and got a new MicroSIM I couldn't get anything faster than 1Mbit. I called in, told them the Nexus 4 was an LTE phone so I could get provisioned for the HSPA+ APN's. They told me to power cycle (I just switched APN's from "wap.cingular" to "pta"), and I immediately saw 3Mbit.
So given this, I can only deduce that whatever plan I was provisioned for when I was taken off my 2GB DataPro was capped at 1Mbit. Given your findings, I'm concluding that anyone that had 3G service(MEdiaNet) before they rolled out HSPA+/LTEhad an unthrottled 3G service and anyone that gets it today gets throttled("Featurephone Data").
Also, the fact your Speedtest.net app is acting funny is usually a sign you're on the gimped plan that I got auto-switched to("Featurephone Data").
I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
Tbh, I don't really care for this thread. I can see that I'm getting HSPA+:15 when I use cellular data, and my transfer speeds are as good as they were with my old phone. I'm only paying $10 for almost 3G (US 3G is the worst 3G...), and ~400KB/s is fast enough for my usage. I can even streaming HD Netflix; I don't, but it's a good benchmark.
Also, the MediaNET plans are not monitored for consumption at all, so I have a true unlimited plan. When I first moved into a new apartment last October, Comcast was being stupid and couldn't get me internet for 3 weeks. I tethered for myself, my roommate, and all of our many daily guests. >10GB down during that time, at least 2GB up, and not a word from AT&T. Until AT&T gets a Nexus 4 variant, I'm not worried about my IMEI being recognized as a smartphone and automatically jacked up to an overpriced 2GB plan with faster speeds but marginal real-world benefit.
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I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
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There's something we can wholeheartedly agree on. AT&T, y u so evil?
The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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Sorry to thread-jack but Id like to pile on incase someone answering your questions can also help me.
I have the $3/day unlimited talk/text/data plan. Does that allow tethering?
Try using foxfi. Att delisted it from market.
http://pdanet.co/android/ download here
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That depends on what you want to tether to. I have found that I can tether with tmo to other android devices, iOS devices, and my chromebook, but not to a windows or mac computer. I haven't really tried internet ready TVs or my PS3.
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The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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They send you a text at about 400mb telling you you are coming close to the limit, then at 500 telling you that you have used all available data for tethering.
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So you are saying that even when it's an unbranded n4 Tmo can still find out if I am tethering or not. But with Fox fi I can tether without being caught? I have used Fox file for years until they stopped working on my Xperia TL.
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rogerski1 said:
Try using foxfi. Att delisted it from market.
http://pdanet.co/android/ download here
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Will give it a whirl ,thanks!
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Will give it a whirl ,thanks!
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Foxfi used to work before.. now they have implemented a new check for tethering which Trekkie's on the headers of transmitted data. There are fixes that rely on editing your browser string to appear like a mobile browser but your best bet is a custom rom that bypasses those checks.
On the note 2 killajoule and Jedi Master worked fine. Haven't checked for the nexus 4
Just change the user agent string on your browser and use the built in tethering.
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tmobile has gotten really good at catching you while changing the browsers user agent. but you can get more than 500mb for tethering. the 50+20(unlimited plan) includes 2.5gb tethering, and you can purchase more. all the limited high speed data plan include unlimited tethering.
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tmobile has gotten really good at catching you while changing the browsers user agent. but you can get more than 500mb for tethering. the 50+20(unlimited plan) includes 2.5gb tethering, and you can purchase more. all the limited high speed data plan include unlimited tethering.
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So if changing the browser agent doesn't work, how do you tether with T-Mobile and bypass the T-Mobile message?
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So if changing the browser agent doesn't work, how do you tether with T-Mobile and bypass the T-Mobithaessage?
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as of now, i have 2.5gb tethering with the unlimited high speed data plan. tmobile doesnt see when i tether my nexus 7, so that makes it easier to use the 2.5gb just for my laptop. i think they also offer 4.5gb for the unlimited high speed plan.
anyways, the last time i changed the user agent, i changed it to android(nexus 7 to be exact), it worked for half a day then they stopped it. oddly, i couldnt get data on my phone after, my phone browser kept sending me to the tmo hotspot page, and none of my apps could connect. i calked tmobile and they reset my data connection to fix it.
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as of now, i have 2.5gb tethering with the unlimited high speed data plan. tmobile doesnt see when i tether my nexus 7, so that makes it easier to use the 2.5gb just for my laptop. i think they also offer 4.5gb for the unlimited high speed plan.
anyways, the last time i changed the user agent, i changed it to android(nexus 7 to be exact), it worked for half a day then they stopped it. oddly, i couldnt get data on my phone after, my phone browser kept sending me to the tmo hotspot page, and none of my apps could connect. i calked tmobile and they reset my data connection to fix it.
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Oh, so you have the tethering plan. I have the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (unlimited data and text and 100 minutes) without an extra hotspot plan, how do I tether without the extra plan and without the tether message coming up?
tykate said:
Oh, so you have the tethering plan. I have the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (unlimited data and text and 100 minutes) without an extra hotspot plan, how do I tether without the extra plan and without the tether message coming up?
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luck of the draw.
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luck of the draw.
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can you be a bit more specific? what do you mean? does it mean that i can't do it through any app?
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can you be a bit more specific? what do you mean? does it mean that i can't do it through any app?
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you guys should stop abusing the system..
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luck of the draw.
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I wonder if it really is the luck of the draw, and if so I guess I am "lucky". I never really gave the tethering much thought since I got my Nexus 4 last year. I haven't used it that much, once or twice while traveling and a couple of times at work to test stuff using an outside internet connection. I have never been charged or sent any kind of message from T-Mobile. I am on the $60 dollars a month prepaid plan, no tethering plan and I have never hit my 2.5gb data throttling limit. Rooted on stock with TWRP recovery, not that I think that makes much of a difference.
feelfreetoblameme said:
I wonder if it really is the luck of the draw, and if so I guess I am "lucky". I never really gave the tethering much thought since I got my Nexus 4 last year. I haven't used it that much, once or twice while traveling and a couple of times at work to test stuff using an outside internet connection. I have never been charged or sent any kind of message from T-Mobile. I am on the $60 dollars a month prepaid plan, no tethering plan and I have never hit my 2.5gb data throttling limit. Rooted on stock with TWRP recovery, not that I think that makes much of a difference.
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why are you on a $60 prepaid plan??
for $60 a month you can be on a unlimited calls/texts plan with completely unlimited high speed data and 500mb tethering, without any contract. for $70 total, its the same but tmobile also includes 2.5gb tethering.
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why are you on a $60 prepaid plan??
for $60 a month you can be on a unlimited calls/texts plan with completely unlimited high speed data and 500mb tethering, without any contract. for $70 total, its the same but tmobile also includes 2.5gb tethering.
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That is the plan I am on (at least, I think so!). I have no contract, unlimited calls/texts, data that is unlimited (although they throttle 4G after 2.5gb is reached) but was not aware that 500mb tethering is included. Good to know, probably why T-Mob has left me alone so far.
feelfreetoblameme said:
That is the plan I am on (at least, I think so!). I have no contract, unlimited calls/texts, data that is unlimited (although they throttle 4G after 2.5gb is reached) but was not aware that 500mb tethering is included. Good to know, probably why T-Mob has left me alone so far.
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thats not the plan i am talking about. the ai am talking about they do not throttle you after 2.5gb high speed data. the plan im talking about is completely unlimited high speed data.
edit.. i see they changed their plans slightly. for $10 more than you pay, you get completely unlimited high speed data and 2.5gb for tethering. your data speeds will not get slowed down at all.