The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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Sorry to thread-jack but Id like to pile on incase someone answering your questions can also help me.
I have the $3/day unlimited talk/text/data plan. Does that allow tethering?
Try using foxfi. Att delisted it from market.
http://pdanet.co/android/ download here
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That depends on what you want to tether to. I have found that I can tether with tmo to other android devices, iOS devices, and my chromebook, but not to a windows or mac computer. I haven't really tried internet ready TVs or my PS3.
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The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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They send you a text at about 400mb telling you you are coming close to the limit, then at 500 telling you that you have used all available data for tethering.
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So you are saying that even when it's an unbranded n4 Tmo can still find out if I am tethering or not. But with Fox fi I can tether without being caught? I have used Fox file for years until they stopped working on my Xperia TL.
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rogerski1 said:
Try using foxfi. Att delisted it from market.
http://pdanet.co/android/ download here
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Will give it a whirl ,thanks!
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Will give it a whirl ,thanks!
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Foxfi used to work before.. now they have implemented a new check for tethering which Trekkie's on the headers of transmitted data. There are fixes that rely on editing your browser string to appear like a mobile browser but your best bet is a custom rom that bypasses those checks.
On the note 2 killajoule and Jedi Master worked fine. Haven't checked for the nexus 4
Just change the user agent string on your browser and use the built in tethering.
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tmobile has gotten really good at catching you while changing the browsers user agent. but you can get more than 500mb for tethering. the 50+20(unlimited plan) includes 2.5gb tethering, and you can purchase more. all the limited high speed data plan include unlimited tethering.
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tmobile has gotten really good at catching you while changing the browsers user agent. but you can get more than 500mb for tethering. the 50+20(unlimited plan) includes 2.5gb tethering, and you can purchase more. all the limited high speed data plan include unlimited tethering.
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So if changing the browser agent doesn't work, how do you tether with T-Mobile and bypass the T-Mobile message?
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So if changing the browser agent doesn't work, how do you tether with T-Mobile and bypass the T-Mobithaessage?
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as of now, i have 2.5gb tethering with the unlimited high speed data plan. tmobile doesnt see when i tether my nexus 7, so that makes it easier to use the 2.5gb just for my laptop. i think they also offer 4.5gb for the unlimited high speed plan.
anyways, the last time i changed the user agent, i changed it to android(nexus 7 to be exact), it worked for half a day then they stopped it. oddly, i couldnt get data on my phone after, my phone browser kept sending me to the tmo hotspot page, and none of my apps could connect. i calked tmobile and they reset my data connection to fix it.
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as of now, i have 2.5gb tethering with the unlimited high speed data plan. tmobile doesnt see when i tether my nexus 7, so that makes it easier to use the 2.5gb just for my laptop. i think they also offer 4.5gb for the unlimited high speed plan.
anyways, the last time i changed the user agent, i changed it to android(nexus 7 to be exact), it worked for half a day then they stopped it. oddly, i couldnt get data on my phone after, my phone browser kept sending me to the tmo hotspot page, and none of my apps could connect. i calked tmobile and they reset my data connection to fix it.
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Oh, so you have the tethering plan. I have the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (unlimited data and text and 100 minutes) without an extra hotspot plan, how do I tether without the extra plan and without the tether message coming up?
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Oh, so you have the tethering plan. I have the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (unlimited data and text and 100 minutes) without an extra hotspot plan, how do I tether without the extra plan and without the tether message coming up?
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luck of the draw.
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luck of the draw.
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can you be a bit more specific? what do you mean? does it mean that i can't do it through any app?
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can you be a bit more specific? what do you mean? does it mean that i can't do it through any app?
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you guys should stop abusing the system..
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luck of the draw.
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I wonder if it really is the luck of the draw, and if so I guess I am "lucky". I never really gave the tethering much thought since I got my Nexus 4 last year. I haven't used it that much, once or twice while traveling and a couple of times at work to test stuff using an outside internet connection. I have never been charged or sent any kind of message from T-Mobile. I am on the $60 dollars a month prepaid plan, no tethering plan and I have never hit my 2.5gb data throttling limit. Rooted on stock with TWRP recovery, not that I think that makes much of a difference.
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I wonder if it really is the luck of the draw, and if so I guess I am "lucky". I never really gave the tethering much thought since I got my Nexus 4 last year. I haven't used it that much, once or twice while traveling and a couple of times at work to test stuff using an outside internet connection. I have never been charged or sent any kind of message from T-Mobile. I am on the $60 dollars a month prepaid plan, no tethering plan and I have never hit my 2.5gb data throttling limit. Rooted on stock with TWRP recovery, not that I think that makes much of a difference.
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why are you on a $60 prepaid plan??
for $60 a month you can be on a unlimited calls/texts plan with completely unlimited high speed data and 500mb tethering, without any contract. for $70 total, its the same but tmobile also includes 2.5gb tethering.
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why are you on a $60 prepaid plan??
for $60 a month you can be on a unlimited calls/texts plan with completely unlimited high speed data and 500mb tethering, without any contract. for $70 total, its the same but tmobile also includes 2.5gb tethering.
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That is the plan I am on (at least, I think so!). I have no contract, unlimited calls/texts, data that is unlimited (although they throttle 4G after 2.5gb is reached) but was not aware that 500mb tethering is included. Good to know, probably why T-Mob has left me alone so far.
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That is the plan I am on (at least, I think so!). I have no contract, unlimited calls/texts, data that is unlimited (although they throttle 4G after 2.5gb is reached) but was not aware that 500mb tethering is included. Good to know, probably why T-Mob has left me alone so far.
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thats not the plan i am talking about. the ai am talking about they do not throttle you after 2.5gb high speed data. the plan im talking about is completely unlimited high speed data.
edit.. i see they changed their plans slightly. for $10 more than you pay, you get completely unlimited high speed data and 2.5gb for tethering. your data speeds will not get slowed down at all.
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Would you get charge per kb usage ? Or is the $29.99 for unlimited 4G tethering but we can tether on 3g with a cap of 5gb right ? For free.
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If you can get your phone to tether, either through root or 3rd party software like pdanet, it's free and it's unlimited. No caps to speak of and no way for Sprint to know your tethering.
If you choose to you can pay sprint the $30 and use their built in tethering program. But why pay when you can get it for free?
To answer your question in another way, there are no data caps of anykind on the Evo unless you pay for sprint's tether, then 3g is capped at 5gig, and 4g is unlimited for tethering. On your phone, everything is unlimited.
But I was using my phone today and had just try to see if it would work. And it did. Unless the rep at radio shack added it without telling me.
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I read somewhere that they either forgot to lock it up or overlooked something that will be fixed. Sprint says they will be fixing the issue in 30 days according to news stories I have read. I wish I could link the story but I honestly don't remember where I read it.
I wouldn't use more than 5gigs of 3g with that sprint program. You never know what will happen. Find a good 3rd party program and you will be fine.
Yeah you guys are right. But I need a program that tether WiFi. Not thru usb.
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intristin said:
If you choose to you can pay sprint the $30 and use their built in tethering program. But why pay when you can get it for free?
To answer your question in another way, there are no data caps of anykind on the Evo unless you pay for sprint's tether, then 3g is capped at 5gig, and 4g is unlimited for tethering. On your phone, everything is unlimited.
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Could you please supply source quote to back up that claim?
My understanding is that all data on the EVO is unlimited.
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Could you please supply source quote to back up that claim?
My understanding is that all data on the EVO is unlimited.
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Without $30 charge
3g = 5gb monthly cap
4g = unlimited
With $30 charge
3g & 4g = unlimited
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Without $30 charge
3g = 5gb monthly cap
4g = unlimited
With $30 charge
3g & 4g = unlimited
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Where did you get this info? Is this just your personal hunch? I asked the other poster for an official quote/link, do you have one to share with us?
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Without $30 charge
3g = 5gb monthly cap
4g = unlimited
With $30 charge
3g & 4g = unlimited
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From what I understand, the $10/month that we are already paying gives us unlimited data in 3G and 4G.
4g is the only truly unlimited data right now, the 3g is capped at 5gb per month. Some users were grandfathered into unlimited 3g with older plans, but I believe everyone had to switch to everything plans for the Evo (not sure).
That said, from my days on the Hero forums, some guys were tethering their Xbox 360s and went well over the 5gb cap.. they incurred no overage charges. This isn't a guarantee that the same will happen for you, but others have not been charged. If a larger number of users start breaking this 5gb cap, I imagine they may start imposing overage fees.
I wish people would stop spreading false information. There is official Sprint documentation that states the premium data fee provides unlimited 3g and 4g data. If I find the link I'll add that too. It's unlimited, plain and simple, but for the evo only at this time.
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I wish people would stop spreading false information. There is official Sprint documentation that states the premium data fee provides unlimited 3g and 4g data. If I find the link I'll add that too. It's unlimited, plain and simple, but for the evo only at this time.
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I also hate misinformation, so I'll back mine up:
http://shop.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
The only thing that makes it possibly unenforceable is that it indicates Phone as modem, but not phone data. Technically you are using the phone as modem, but Sprint may not know this when obtained through root. Specifically this clause:
Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem):The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB.
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I found the link, and that link is old news as we all already know about how cell providers secretly cap their unlimited data. This shows specifically that 4g capable devices (Evo 4g) are charged $10 extra for a feature of unlimited 3g &4g data, and that is not the only reason for the $10 fee based on Sprint.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/repeat-after-me-htc-evo-premium-data-addon-is-not-just-for-4g.html?cid=6a00d83451c9ec69e20133f0c93962970b
If we want to get into specifics of how can they prove I am using my phone in such and such a way...that's a whole different area. As far as the OP is concerned, we will have to see a few months of Evo usage from people who are tethering to see what comes of it. My money is on NOTHING happening. Free 3g data is free 3g data. I can use gigs and gigs of data without even tethering
Okay, another edit. Basically, no matter how much data we use it is unlimited as so many have posted before. We are paying for unlimited data and Dan Hesse has mentioned no caps are there and unlimited is unlimited. Makes sense on why we are going to be throttled starting this summer. I have even tethered 20GB a month with my 3GS on ATT and no charges. Technically, I see the $10 fee as bogus b/c we pay for unlimited data with the basic plan and Hesse has stated it's truly unlimited. The shady area is tethering our phones through 3rd party programs which I say is still unlimited phone data.
What I would NOT do is pay $29.99 for the hotspot (phone as modem) and rack up much over 5GB of data, haha. Until we have clear stated info that the hotspot would be free of the 5GB cap, which I'm sure we won't, I would not assume that involves the unlimited 3g data. Though 4g data should be unlimited with the hotspot.
So danknee, is that more suitable of a reply? My first could definitely be argumentative.
So danknee, is that more suitable of a reply? My first could definitely be argumentative.
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Much better stated.
Where did you see that data would be throttled though? I thought that referred to businesses using mobile broadband cards and was completely opt-in. Maybe I misread.
Over at AndroidCentral they said you can no longer tether for free if u do it will cause u 14.99 a month? Is this legit? PDA Net is now rendered useless? Anyone shed some light on this?
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Although we already knew that a new plan for customers that want to Tether was coming soon and then yesteday, confirmed for November 3rd, the folks over at BGR have recieved details on the new tethering plan. T-Mobile will officially offer the $14.99 /MonthTethering and WiFi-Sharing Add-On beginning November 3rd. The plan will allow subscribers to use their smartphones as a tethered modem or Wi-Fi hotspot. To qualify for the $14.99 Tethering add-on, you will need to have a 3G/HSPA+ capable handset in addition to an unlimited web plan of $19.95 or higher. The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled. The plan will be available for Postpaid and Flex Pay Customers.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
What I'm wondering is what's going to happen to everyone that was grandfathered in with the 10gig data softcap. Do they stay with 10gig data plans or are they knocked down to 5gig softcaps. Yes, I understand it still unlimited but I'm not interested on tethering with an Edge connection.
Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
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bigstunta101 said:
If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?
Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.
If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".
Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.
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The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled.
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i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.
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I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.
This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.
Or I could just be flat out wrong.
This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/
via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.
I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.
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So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
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No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.
Hi folks,
First post on the Verizon side. I've been on Sprint forever but am looking at converting to Verizon for their better coverage and better customer satisfaction (at least according to Consumer Reports). We went to the local Verizon store and it seems like we could save money by switching to their 2 year contract. But I want to confirm a couple of things with the forum, as I know sometimes you get, um, incomplete info from the sales folks.
On Sprint, you have to pay an additional charge to make the phone a hotspot. It is THE reason I rooted my S4, to be able to do that for free. I was told it is a free include on the Verizon smartphone plans. So can y'all confirm that is true, and talk about any issues/details I should know about? It would sure make the deal pretty sweet if that is included and pain free!
It sounds like it's easy to change the plan we are on for anticipated data usage. Most of the time, we have very little data usage during the month as we're almost always on a wifi connection. But we own an RV and can use a lot of data (hotspot) when on the road, for up to 2 months at time. Is it as easy as they say to call and bump it up for a couple of months, and then back down when done? Any pitfalls or costs associated with it?
How about roaming data usage? I was told at the store that as long as 50% or less of the data usage is roaming, they don't care. True? Horror stories?
Yes Hotspot usage is included in the plans for everyone except people like myself who still have unlimited data plan. You can also bump up your data if you expect to go over your limit and also bump it back down whenever needed without any problem or extra charges. Your roaming question im not sure about.
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No data/domestic roaming on Verizon. 50 states included
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Savagerun said:
Yes Hotspot usage is included in the plans for everyone except people like myself who still have unlimited data plan. You can also bump up your data if you expect to go over your limit and also bump it back down whenever needed without any problem or extra charges. Your roaming question im not sure about.
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That's technically incorrect. It's not free on the $60 2gb unlimited talk and text plan, it's $15 each device(not a more everything plan). In a more everything plan it'll be included.
OP say you get 4gb of data.
1. On more everything it would be $70 for data and $40 for each smart phone so $150 total. The data is one allotment.
2. You do it on the individual plans on a family account, it can be done, but it would be $60 for 2gb per line and unlimited talk and text, so $120 for two with 4gb total. Add $15 per phone for hotspot, if it's on both then the plan cost is equal.
3. Edge, a bit more complicated but if you 4gb just get 10gb as the cost is the same because of the access fee discount per line.
joshua.justice said:
That's technically incorrect. It's not free on the $60 2gb unlimited talk and text plan, it's $15 each device(not a more everything plan). In a more everything plan it'll be included.
OP say you get 4gb of data.
1. On more everything it would be $70 for data and $40 for each smart phone so $150 total. The data is one allotment.
2. You do it on the individual plans on a family account, it can be done, but it would be $60 for 2gb per line and unlimited talk and text, so $120 for two with 4gb total. Add $15 per phone for hotspot, if it's on both then the plan cost is equal.
3. Edge, a bit more complicated but if you 4gb just get 10gb as the cost is the same because of the access fee discount per line.
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Thanks for the break down. I think I get it.
Another question about the hotspot. When hooked to the Hotspot, can the phone still make/receive calls? Assuming S5 and Note 3.
jejb said:
Thanks for the break down. I think I get it.
Another question about the hotspot. When hooked to the Hotspot, can the phone still make/receive calls? Assuming S5 and Note 3.
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You're welcome, unfortunately I understand it all too well as I work at Best Buy and I'm fairly certain it wouldn't as voice is still a separate network frequency and CDMA can't use voice and data simultaneously. When they do VoLTE (voice over lte) it will work. They're suppose to be rolling out anytime.
joshua.justice said:
You're welcome, unfortunately I understand it all too well as I work at Best Buy and I'm fairly certain it wouldn't as voice is still a separate network frequency and CDMA can't use voice and data simultaneously. When they do VoLTE (voice over lte) it will work. They're suppose to be rolling out anytime.
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Mostly right.
If you're in a 4G area, you can make/receive a call and still use 4G data at the same time.
quantumalpha said:
Mostly right.
If you're in a 4G area, you can make/receive a call and still use 4G data at the same time.
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Ding ding a ding ding ...
Data drops on phone call if on 3g .... LTE and voice work simultaneously no problem I do it all the time.
I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan from Verizon. I have the 450 minute & 1K Message & $39.99 data plan for a total of $81.98. I've never once gone over my minutes in years so more than 450 isn't required.
The new unlimited everything plan is $85 and this includes Mobile Hot Spot (Needed now that FoxFi doesn't work on Nougat).
Has anyone made this switch? Is it as good of a deal as it seems? I wonder if this new plan is throttled or if it's the same as what I have now.
It's very much throttled unfortunately. In the fine print it says your internet speed will be de-prioritized after 22GB (meaning you'll be queued after other non-unlimited users), and the hotspot will only run on 3G which is basically worthless compared to 4G or WiFi.
If you are gonna switch, consider selling your plan on eBay, they're going for $1500-$1800 bucks. I'm never gonna get rid of mine.
ryant35 said:
I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan from Verizon. I have the 450 minute & 1K Message & $39.99 data plan for a total of $81.98. I've never once gone over my minutes in years so more than 450 isn't required.
The new unlimited everything plan is $85 and this includes Mobile Hot Spot (Needed now that FoxFi doesn't work on Nougat).
Has anyone made this switch? Is it as good of a deal as it seems? I wonder if this new plan is throttled or if it's the same as what I have now.
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Speeds should be the same, throttling may happen if you "use over 22GB and are in a heavily congested area."
Hotspot should also be the same but it also applies to throttling at 22GB if it is congested.
Id go to Verizon and ask them what costs would be and if you'd save money by switching to the new plan.
You get 10gb of hotspot at 4G speeds then downgraded to 3G speeds (some users reported not getting downgraded to 3G or seeing differences after 10gb). I made the switch and have yet to notice any differences. I normally end up around 20-30gb used a month.
Also you don't get throttled you get de-prioritized in congested area, meaning someone would connect to the tower before you if over 22gb. And who know what is consider a "congested" area.
verizon unlimited plan, do you guys think this will be around come october? that is when my contracts are up on my to UL old plans....
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I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan from Verizon. I have the 450 minute & 1K Message & $39.99 data plan for a total of $81.98. I've never once gone over my minutes in years so more than 450 isn't required.
The new unlimited everything plan is $85 and this includes Mobile Hot Spot (Needed now that FoxFi doesn't work on Nougat).
Has anyone made this switch? Is it as good of a deal as it seems? I wonder if this new plan is throttled or if it's the same as what I have now.
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Bummed about FoxFi, and although it's not ideal tethering still works with grandfathered UDP. Check this out: https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/help/tethering-nougat-t3568501
Anybody have a S10 series on Verizon answer a couple questions for me?
I would like to confirm if or not bot Mobile Hotspot and MMS message work properly.
and any other quirks and besides the benefits of no belote ware, I'm planning on getting a S20+ but the Verizon version is $300 more than unlocked and I don't need or want Wi-Fi calling.
Thanks in advance
I have the unlocked s10+ G975U1 with Verizon and Mobile Hotspot works fine and MMS works perfectly. For my hotspot i use an app called NetShare (paid) for hotspot, but as i am on the $70 unlimited LTE (prepaid) this is the deprioritized plan meaning if there is congestion Verizon will slow down your data speed.
Only drawback of using International unlocked phone on US carriers is the phone don't support all LTE bands so you might be missing one or two and the data speeds might not be as fast
LTE+ 4bars of signal - Download 43Mbps and Upload 18.6mbps I'm 2 miles away from the tower then on other times i get 70Mbps download and 30mbps upload. The power of (deprioritized plan) lol
EdinM30 said:
I have the unlocked s10+ G975U1 with Verizon and Mobile Hotspot works fine and MMS works perfectly. For my hotspot i use an app called NetShare (paid) for hotspot, but as i am on the $70 unlimited LTE (prepaid) this is the deprioritized plan meaning if there is congestion Verizon will slow down your data speed.
Only drawback of using International unlocked phone on US carriers is the phone don't support all LTE bands so you might be missing one or two and the data speeds might not be as fast
LTE+ 4bars of signal - Download 43Mbps and Upload 18.6mbps I'm 2 miles away from the tower then on other times i get 70Mbps download and 30mbps upload. The power of (deprioritized plan) lol
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Thanks for the reply, what's the plan your reference g to? $70 a month they slow you down? I have the unlimited plus plan
Also isn't there a WI-FI button in the pull down to turn on Mobile hotspot? Do you have to use a app? Thanks sorry for the question but I don't want to pay $300 extra for a phone to get a verizon branded
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XRSTOY1 said:
Thanks for the reply, what's the plan your reference g to? $70 a month they slow you down? I have the unlimited plus plan
Also isn't there a WI-FI button in the pull down to turn on Mobile hotspot? Do you have to use a app? Thanks sorry for the question but I don't want to pay $300 extra for a phone to get a verizon branded
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Some carriers have like Fake Unlimited data plans the Unlimited plan i got for $70 is unlimited but they will slow down or throttle you if there is congestion in your area they prioritize premium or contract plans.
yes there is a mobile hotspot pulldown button but there is a set amount of hotspot GB i can't remember if it's around 10GB or so with that app i can bypass it and use my unlimited data as hotspot
EdinM30 said:
Some carriers have like Fake Unlimited data plans the Unlimited plan i got for $70 is unlimited but they will slow down or throttle you if there is congestion in your area they prioritize premium or contract plans.
yes there is a mobile hotspot pulldown button but there is a set amount of hotspot GB i can't remember if it's around 10GB or so with that app i can bypass it and use my unlimited data as hotspot
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Oh that's pretty nice the limit I have on my hotspot is 15 gig. I used to get unlimited hotspot when I was rooting.
Good to know you can get it now without root.