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I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
Zythyr said:
I currently have HTC HD2 running on Android. I am currently on AT&T and I am thinking about getting the T-Mobile $50 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
1. The first 100MB are full speed. My question is, after I use up the first 100MB of full speed data, what speed will I be getting? Will it be 3G or EDGE? Or will it be slower than edge?
2. What if I get AT&T's unlimited data for non-smartphones? AT&T can't detect my HD2, so I will be able to add this plan. But what will be the data speed I will be getting? Is it 3G, EDGE, or slower than EDGE?
3. What if I get AT&T's $50 Monthly Unlimited GoPhone Prepaid plan? They won't be able to detect my HD2 as a smartphone, so will I be able to use their unlimited data? What will be the speed of the data plan?
4. If there is an occasion where I remove my SIM card from the HD2 and put into an iPhone, will AT&T automatically detect it and remove me from the unlimited data plan?
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1. I don't know which version of the HD2 you have, but if it is currently getting 3G on AT&T, then it won't get 3G on T-Mobile. You would need the T-Mobile version of the HD2 for that. T-Mobile throttles speeds back one tier from what you pay for when you hit the soft cap. For example, if you pay for the 3G/4G service, you will get throttled back to EDGE. It will still show a 3G or HSPA connection, but the speeds will be down to somewhere around 100kbps down and 70kbps up. If you don't get 3G with them anyway, then you won't see any difference at all.
2. AT&T does not have any unlimited plans anymore. Even if you get a data plan with them, they can absolutely detect the IMEI number even on non-AT&T devices. They will send you a free text telling you that you need to be on a smartphone data plan. If you ignore the text, within a couple of days, you will have the lowest plan of $15 data for 200MB added to your account.
3. Again, they can detect the type of device you are using and will add an appropriate plan to your account for your device. Data speeds depend on the coverage area and the device you are using. Only the Telstra HD2 is able to get 3G on AT&T. The European and T-Mobile ones will only ever get EDGE speeds.
4. This is the same as what I described above. Once you start using the iPhone, it will be detected and your plan will be adjusted accordingly, whether you allow them to do so or not.
You will get much better customer service and data consistency on T-Mobile in most cases. Their plans are also WAY cheaper on T-Mobile. Depending on which HD2 you actually have, your data speeds will vary in comparison to AT&T. I, personally, have been a contract-free customer with T-Mobile for a very long time. I still pay $50 for 1000 minutes a month, which is unlimited for me, unlimited texts, and unlimited data. I'm grandfathered in, so I also do not have a soft cap on my data connection, nor do I have to pay for tethering.
When all is said and done, the best thing about T-Mobile is that it isn't AT&T.
You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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You can still trick AT&T into getting an unlimited plan if you use phones they don't know the IMEI of, or if you activate the account with an iPhone 2G.
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IMEI's are very easy for carriers to look up. It does not only apply to devices they carry. This is a common myth. Once they see the IMEI of a smartphone, whether it is theirs or not, you get stuck with the smartphone data plan. It makes no difference. IMEI's are easily available and carriers have a database of which devices they belong to.
does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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does ATT have a list of smartphone that requires data plan, anyone knows?
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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All AT&T smartphone-type devices require data plans. To my knowledge, there are no exceptions.
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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so if I have a t_mobile smartphone and willing to stayat edge speed, I should be okay? thanks
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They are going to tack on a smartphone data plan, but yes, you can use it on their network after you get a SIM from them.
I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
dtkool said:
I agree with about 90% of what cajunflavoredbob replied.
Tmobile HD2 = Tmobile USA 3G or 4G (HSPA+)
HTC HD2 (Non-Branded) = AT&T 3G or Other providers 3G or HSPA+
When it comes to the plan type:
Tmobile Prepaid 4G (Month to Month) = $50 Unlimited Everything (1st 100MB is 4G)
My friend just got this plan and using it on Tmobile HD2.
I will check with him and report back once I have him do a few major download to pass the 100MB cap & a few speed test.
AT&T GoPhone Prepaid = $50 Unlimited Everything (No 3G for Smartphones)
Just got this like yesterday and tested on 3G iPhone.
3G iPhone data connection got blocked immediately after about 1 minute or usage.
However, if I switch back to the 3G Samsung SGH-A717, I was able to browse around and use 3G data on AT&T.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure AT&T system is scanning IMEI in real-time like cajunflavoredbob replied.
But I'm not sure about the Non-Branded HTC HD2 using 3G data on AT&T. Sorry but I do not have a Non-Branded HTC HD2 to test with. I'm currently activating prepaid services for people and will keep my eyes and ears open for you guys.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Non-Branded HTC HD2 WILL WORK & WILL PICK UP AT&T 3G because AT&T system WILL NOT RECOGNIZE the device & will treated as Non-Smartphone device.
That's all I found out for now. I will update once I do a few speed test here & there.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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The unbranded HD2 will NOT get 3G on AT&T. The only version of the HD2 that will get AT&T 3G is the Telstra version. It will be not be "blocked" from the Internet service, but it will cause them to activate an appropriate monthly charge to your account. In the case of a prepaid plan, they will mostly likely block you completely when you use a smartphone device. This isn't me guessing at it, this is fact. If you try to use a smartphone, even if it is not an AT&T branded phone, on their network, they CAN and WILL update your account accordingly.
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1. It is prepaid. They cannot make changes to your account on prepaid. They can only block the internet. On postpaid, they won't know. Lots of people are using unbranded phones on the postpaid featurephone data plan. This has been happening for a while.
2. Non-branded ATT smartphones work on the prepaid $50 plan. Been tested and reported on. People are using the Samsung Galaxy S2 on there even. Although, speeds may be throttled.
Yes, there are databases of devices available. ATT doesn't care or look at them though.
So, OP. If you do get a ATT 3g HD2, you can use it on the prepaid or postpaid plan. Prepaid might be throttled, but you won't know for sure until you try it. If you use the t-mobile version you will only get edge speeds.
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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For a prepaid account, yes, all of what you said above is true.
Zythyr said:
I am getting mixed answers here and confused. Based on my reserach from other websites including HowardForums, it is my understanding that if I have a TMOUS HD2 and use it on AT&T $50 Prepaid plan, I will be able to use unlimited data but on EDGE speed. 3G speed won't work because TMOUS HD2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G broadcast frequency. In addition, if I were on the ATT $50 prepiad plan and put the SIM card into an iPhone, the data will not work at all (not even EDGE), however AT&T will NOT automatically add the cheapest data plan to my account since I am using the iPhone.
Please correct me if I am wrong about my understanding above...
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Correct. If you use unbranded/non-ATT phones. The internet will also work, although may be throttled. Most ATT phones will have the internet blocked, unless you pay extra for it.
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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T-Mobile doesn't pull that same shady crap like AT&T does. You are allowed to use any phone you want on their network without having to worry about your speeds or data plan changing. I'm using a T-mobile branded HD2 on a plan I've had with them for years. My plan is still the same $50 I was paying when I first ran away from AT&T. I've never once been forced to change my plan for anything. I think you'll find that T-Mobile is a MUCH more friendly and open atmosphere than AT&T. Once you've dealt with them for a while, you'll understand why nearly every T-Mobile customer hates the proposed AT&T takeover. Most of us switched to T-Mobile to get away from AT&T's nearly evil practices. Also, you will only get 3G speeds on T-Mobile if your HD2 is T-Mobile branded. You do not have to pay extra for 3G or "4G" speeds with them. Their unlimited data plans do get throttled when you hit 5GB of data, but most users will never get that far. If you have a link to the plan details you are referring to, I can give you a much better run down of what to expect.
EDIT: Here's another cool thing about being on T-Mobile - they actually care about making you happy as a customer. Yesterday, I got a coupon in the mail with my statement. It was for 50% off any accessories in their stores. That isn't to say that I'm going to use it, since I don't shop in their stores, but it is still a nice gesture. There is also another separate piece of mail heading out to current customers that is a $25 gift card for use in any of their stores. This type of thing is pretty typical of them. So, let's break it down then, shall we?
With T-mobile, you get faster data, better customer service, reliable call connections, cheaper bills, and all of this with a company that isn't AT&T.
Zythyr said:
If I get T-Mobile's $70 unlimited talk text and high speed data plan, will my I get throttled? Will I be getting 3G speeds for a long for the whole month or will it get throttled down to GPRS ?
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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Are you talking about the $70 prepaid plan? That plan has a 5gb cap, then it is throttled. The 5GB of data are unthrottled and can do "4g" speeds if you have a "4g" phone.
The postpaid service lets you pick some MB, 2GB, 5GB, or 10GB then throttled.
If you get the prepaid plan. You can buy the refill cards online like at callingmart.com They have monthly coupons by e-mail for 10% off. This brings the monthly total to about $63/month.
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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So after 5GB, they will throttle it? What are the speeds after throttling? Does it go down to EDGE or GPRS?
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About 80-100KBps, or roughly EDGE speeds.
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i past my 5gb the other day and i can tell you now its slow as dog ****,i use my htc sensation to tether my laptop i forgot not to be downloading movies stupid me now when on xda from laptop the pictures in threads that people post take all day to display i will never past my 5gb again
Just a heads up for GSM owners. I tried to get a data plan with AT&T today and after over an hour on the phone they told me that the only "data only" plan their system can add for the note 10.1 is a 5gb plan for $50. If you want the 3gb plan you also need a voice plan.
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Just a heads up for GSM owners. I tried to get a data plan with AT&T today and after over an hour on the phone they told me that the only "data only" plan their system can add for the note 10.1 is a 5gb plan for $50. If you want the 3gb plan you also need a voice plan.
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If you already have a plan with AT&T you can add the Note to your existing account as a non-Smartphone device. It's $9.99 for the extra device and $10 for unlimited HSPA+ data which isn't throttled or soft-capped because you're using the Cingular (3G) APN vs. the Phone (4G) APN. If you don't have unlimited messaging on the account the data is $15 vs. $10. The Note can share the plan minutes that are on the account for voice calls. Since the 3G Note is a foriegn device AT&T doesn't track the IMEI and can't detect that it's not just a dumb phone.
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If you already have a plan with AT&T you can add the Note to your existing account as a non-Smartphone device. It's $9.99 for the extra device and $10 for unlimited HSPA+ data which isn't throttled or soft-capped because you're using the Cingular (3G) APN vs. the Phone (4G) APN. If you don't have unlimited messaging on the account the data is $15 vs. $10. The Note can share the plan minutes that are on the account for voice calls. Since the 3G Note is a foriegn device AT&T doesn't track the IMEI and can't detect that it's not just a dumb phone.
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PMentior, BarryH_GEG is correct. If you already have an account with AT&T, just say it is a non-smartphone and will work great. I tested using my SIM card from my SIII and works great. I did noitce that indeed APN shows as Cingular, so like Barry mention you will have unlimited data. Here is a video of the Galaxy Note 10.1 I did, to show how to use it as hotspot and make phone calls.
Thanks for the replies. I know that I could get it set up with the media but plan but thats not really what I was going for. I don't need data on it too often, only when I go on a trip. With the tablet plans being no commitment I could pick it up only for a month here or there when I need it. With the media net plan it seems like I would be paying every month for services I don't need.
From my talk with att it seems like their system isn't seeing it as a valid tablet yet but I assume that would change in the coming months when the LTE version is released. Maybe I'll try again later but for now it is a case of something I would like to have but I know I don't need it.
As a side note I tried a prepaid tmobile data sim and I do get coverage but only edge speeds. I wish tmobile didn't use weird frequency bands for their data as the setup for the data sim was super fast and easy. If only att could be more like that.
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Oh I see. Have you tried getting a pre-paid SIM card for a non-smartphone. I haven't checked into those yet, but if it does work with whatever plans they have, you could use a months worth and pay as you need it.
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Sorry If has been asked, I searched and found no thread similar with the name.
But my T Mobile 2 year contract expires soon, and I was thinking of switching BACK over to Simple Mobile, Unlimited everything 50$ a month.
I am guessing there shouldn't be a problem since simple mobile use t mobiles network towers, but I just want to make sure. Thank You.
it will be fine, simple mobile runs on tmobile. Just do some research on howard forums on prepaid networks. Simple mobile is good if you have to do some international calls as they give u 5 bix a month credit for their unlimited plam.
However based on reports i have read, their unlimited is really about 2gigs. And sometimes they may even cut off data completely. With Straight talk you can choose between tmobile and att and they only throttle you.....
ijip said:
it will be fine, simple mobile runs on tmobile. Just do some research on howard forums on prepaid networks. Simple mobile is good if you have to do some international calls as they give u 5 bix a month credit for their unlimited plam.
However based on reports i have read, their unlimited is really about 2gigs. And sometimes they may even cut off data completely. With Straight talk you can choose between tmobile and att and they only throttle you.....
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So are you saying simple mobile's data on their $50 plan is only 2 gig? How about their $40 plan...im planning on getting that!!!!
sLiKK said:
So are you saying simple mobile's data on their $50 plan is only 2 gig? How about their $40 plan...im planning on getting that!!!!
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Actually, not he $50 SimpleMobile plan is not limited to 2gigs, its "Unlimited" - To what they define as "Unlimited" I can not say for certain.
They claim to be truly Unlimited; After speaking with their Customer Service, they stated they have not data cap. They will have ever Throttle your speeds (from 4G to 3G) if you violate their TOU/T&C (which you can find on their website; and states crap like do not run a server over their network [technically t-mobiles network] no pirating stuff, etc.. the usual stuff)
With the $40 plan, you are limited to 250mb of 4G, so why not spend the extra $10 and have "Unlimited"
My cousin uses Simple Mobile in Florida, he uses the hell out of it.. He turns his Nexus7 into a Hotspot and connects his laptop to it (while this is a violation of the T&C) and he has yet to be throttled or had service terminated... (the trick to the Hotspot/Tether is to mirror your laptops MAC to that of the device you have the data service through, so they don't notice 2 different device accessing the same data connection)
So you get the $50 Unlimited plan, you max out your usage, they throttle you, you wait until the next month to start fresh, or you Port your number to a new carrier and max out that internet.. No where in the US will you find truly Unlimited Data anymore (Sprint Lies!)
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No where in the US will you find truly Unlimited Data anymore (Sprint Lies!)
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Sprints definitely unlimited...I once used 30gb of their 4g wimax in a month tethering a dd-wrt router to my whole house while time warner was down. But that apartment seemed to be the only place in the city where 4g worked well. Everywhere else its 100kbps max 3g. Lots of places barely get 10kbps and have >1 sec ping. Really hope my nexus 4 gets here soon so I can kick sprint to the curb.
Also check your crappy local stores for simple mobile sims. I just bought one from a shady liquor store for less than the website.
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From personal experience the $40 plan is capped at 2gigs then throttled and $50 plan is capped at 5gigs then they cut it of completely so I switched to T-Mobile $30 100 minutes unlimited text and 5gigs of 4g data then I get throttled
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OK IMHO if you're considering simple mobile, which is a tracfone, I would recommend getting straight talk/telcel $45 or net10 $50 byop tmobile Sim instead (also tracfone). You can use telcel or net10 that can be bought on ebay for $1 interchanably. NOTE this is NOT the same when using the AT&T byop Sim.
At least they are sorta *unlimited... Simple mobile has these issues; 2gb high speed then throttled, 2gb cap, or instant throttle at 119Kbs from day one.
I am in Florida and I speak from experience, but this may have changed since tmobile themselves changed their $70 from 5gb to unlimited recently.
*I've seen a data screen cap or someone claiming having used 100gb without issues.
I also used T-Mobile/Walmart $30 plan but 100 min was not enough for me, even when using VoIP calling. I also hit the 5gb data limit.
Switched back to st but using tmo byop Sim this time. Got refills currently from $33-42/m no taxes but its not always the case.
YMMV
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OK IMHO if you're considering simple mobile, which is a tracfone, I would recommend getting straight talk/telcel $45 or net10 $50 byop tmobile Sim instead (also tracfone). You can use telcel or net10 that can be bought on ebay for $1 interchanably. NOTE this is NOT the same when using the AT&T byop Sim.
At least they are sorta *unlimited... Simple mobile has these issues; 2gb high speed then throttled, 2gb cap, or instant throttle at 119Kbs from day one.
I am in Florida and I speak from experience, but this may have changed since tmkbile themselves changed their $70 from 5gb to unlimited.
*I've seen a data screen cap or someone claiming having used 100gb without issues.
YMMV
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If you can live with the data cap look into ptel. Their $40.00 unlimited plan is the same as simple mobile's. Your can order a sim and $40.00 pin and use the promo code "ptelslick20" and pay $20.00. The pins are good for a year so order 12 of these. I am switching when my 30 days expire with simple mobile
Simple Mobile raised their 50 dollar plan to 55 dollars after taxes and fees etc. Thinking about switching to Straight Talk.
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If you can live with the data cap look into ptel. Their $40.00 unlimited plan is the same as simple mobile's. Your can order a sim and $40.00 pin and use the promo code "ptelslick20" and pay $20.00. The pins are good for a year so order 12 of these. I am switching when my 30 days expire with simple mobile
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Nice find, thanks for sharing. I got some of the $99/90day refills for straight talk. But that might not be bad for mom or dad, anyone that doesn't use much but likes the choice..
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Nice find, thanks for sharing. I got some of the $99/90day refills for straight talk. But that might not be bad for mom or dad, anyone that doesn't use much but likes the choice..
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I order so many pins for my family and friends that they called me to make sure it wasn't a mistake
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I didn't want to create another thread but hoping someone can answer this since it's related to my Nexus 4 and Simple mobile.
I already am using Simple Mobile on my Gnex, but can I cut my sim that I am currently using and stick it in my N4? I am following these instructions: http://www.airportal.de/nanosim/
Any tips or tricks or warnings will be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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Sorry to thread-jack but Id like to pile on incase someone answering your questions can also help me.
I have the $3/day unlimited talk/text/data plan. Does that allow tethering?
Try using foxfi. Att delisted it from market.
http://pdanet.co/android/ download here
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That depends on what you want to tether to. I have found that I can tether with tmo to other android devices, iOS devices, and my chromebook, but not to a windows or mac computer. I haven't really tried internet ready TVs or my PS3.
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The phone is a Google Nexus 4 bought from Google Play store
I tether with the built-in "Tethering & Portable hotspot" using WiFi all day Monday thru Friday on AT&T, and I have gotten text messages from AT&T about data usage and "click here for the tethering plan". I have a grandfathered-in "unlimited LTE" plan with AT&T and they do throttle me to about 0.3m down 0.5m up.
I am considering switching to Tmo because it's much cheaper (60/mo versus 110/mo), I plan on staying on the same phone and just get a SIM card, get the basic talk/text plan and the unlimited 4G plan. Now my question is... in the unlimited 4G it says
"Adds Unlimited Nationwide 4G data on T-Mobiles network. Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service."
Does that means I will only be able to tether for 500mb using an unbranded N4 with android's build-in wireless tethering function? Or Tmo is going to be like AT&T just send me text message once a twice a year? My tethering usage is about 2G per week.
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They send you a text at about 400mb telling you you are coming close to the limit, then at 500 telling you that you have used all available data for tethering.
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So you are saying that even when it's an unbranded n4 Tmo can still find out if I am tethering or not. But with Fox fi I can tether without being caught? I have used Fox file for years until they stopped working on my Xperia TL.
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rogerski1 said:
Try using foxfi. Att delisted it from market.
http://pdanet.co/android/ download here
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Will give it a whirl ,thanks!
burnski said:
Will give it a whirl ,thanks!
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Foxfi used to work before.. now they have implemented a new check for tethering which Trekkie's on the headers of transmitted data. There are fixes that rely on editing your browser string to appear like a mobile browser but your best bet is a custom rom that bypasses those checks.
On the note 2 killajoule and Jedi Master worked fine. Haven't checked for the nexus 4
Just change the user agent string on your browser and use the built in tethering.
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tmobile has gotten really good at catching you while changing the browsers user agent. but you can get more than 500mb for tethering. the 50+20(unlimited plan) includes 2.5gb tethering, and you can purchase more. all the limited high speed data plan include unlimited tethering.
simms22 said:
tmobile has gotten really good at catching you while changing the browsers user agent. but you can get more than 500mb for tethering. the 50+20(unlimited plan) includes 2.5gb tethering, and you can purchase more. all the limited high speed data plan include unlimited tethering.
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So if changing the browser agent doesn't work, how do you tether with T-Mobile and bypass the T-Mobile message?
tykate said:
So if changing the browser agent doesn't work, how do you tether with T-Mobile and bypass the T-Mobithaessage?
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as of now, i have 2.5gb tethering with the unlimited high speed data plan. tmobile doesnt see when i tether my nexus 7, so that makes it easier to use the 2.5gb just for my laptop. i think they also offer 4.5gb for the unlimited high speed plan.
anyways, the last time i changed the user agent, i changed it to android(nexus 7 to be exact), it worked for half a day then they stopped it. oddly, i couldnt get data on my phone after, my phone browser kept sending me to the tmo hotspot page, and none of my apps could connect. i calked tmobile and they reset my data connection to fix it.
simms22 said:
as of now, i have 2.5gb tethering with the unlimited high speed data plan. tmobile doesnt see when i tether my nexus 7, so that makes it easier to use the 2.5gb just for my laptop. i think they also offer 4.5gb for the unlimited high speed plan.
anyways, the last time i changed the user agent, i changed it to android(nexus 7 to be exact), it worked for half a day then they stopped it. oddly, i couldnt get data on my phone after, my phone browser kept sending me to the tmo hotspot page, and none of my apps could connect. i calked tmobile and they reset my data connection to fix it.
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Oh, so you have the tethering plan. I have the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (unlimited data and text and 100 minutes) without an extra hotspot plan, how do I tether without the extra plan and without the tether message coming up?
tykate said:
Oh, so you have the tethering plan. I have the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan (unlimited data and text and 100 minutes) without an extra hotspot plan, how do I tether without the extra plan and without the tether message coming up?
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luck of the draw.
simms22 said:
luck of the draw.
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can you be a bit more specific? what do you mean? does it mean that i can't do it through any app?
tykate said:
can you be a bit more specific? what do you mean? does it mean that i can't do it through any app?
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you guys should stop abusing the system..
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luck of the draw.
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I wonder if it really is the luck of the draw, and if so I guess I am "lucky". I never really gave the tethering much thought since I got my Nexus 4 last year. I haven't used it that much, once or twice while traveling and a couple of times at work to test stuff using an outside internet connection. I have never been charged or sent any kind of message from T-Mobile. I am on the $60 dollars a month prepaid plan, no tethering plan and I have never hit my 2.5gb data throttling limit. Rooted on stock with TWRP recovery, not that I think that makes much of a difference.
feelfreetoblameme said:
I wonder if it really is the luck of the draw, and if so I guess I am "lucky". I never really gave the tethering much thought since I got my Nexus 4 last year. I haven't used it that much, once or twice while traveling and a couple of times at work to test stuff using an outside internet connection. I have never been charged or sent any kind of message from T-Mobile. I am on the $60 dollars a month prepaid plan, no tethering plan and I have never hit my 2.5gb data throttling limit. Rooted on stock with TWRP recovery, not that I think that makes much of a difference.
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why are you on a $60 prepaid plan??
for $60 a month you can be on a unlimited calls/texts plan with completely unlimited high speed data and 500mb tethering, without any contract. for $70 total, its the same but tmobile also includes 2.5gb tethering.
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why are you on a $60 prepaid plan??
for $60 a month you can be on a unlimited calls/texts plan with completely unlimited high speed data and 500mb tethering, without any contract. for $70 total, its the same but tmobile also includes 2.5gb tethering.
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That is the plan I am on (at least, I think so!). I have no contract, unlimited calls/texts, data that is unlimited (although they throttle 4G after 2.5gb is reached) but was not aware that 500mb tethering is included. Good to know, probably why T-Mob has left me alone so far.
feelfreetoblameme said:
That is the plan I am on (at least, I think so!). I have no contract, unlimited calls/texts, data that is unlimited (although they throttle 4G after 2.5gb is reached) but was not aware that 500mb tethering is included. Good to know, probably why T-Mob has left me alone so far.
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thats not the plan i am talking about. the ai am talking about they do not throttle you after 2.5gb high speed data. the plan im talking about is completely unlimited high speed data.
edit.. i see they changed their plans slightly. for $10 more than you pay, you get completely unlimited high speed data and 2.5gb for tethering. your data speeds will not get slowed down at all.
Hi folks,
First post on the Verizon side. I've been on Sprint forever but am looking at converting to Verizon for their better coverage and better customer satisfaction (at least according to Consumer Reports). We went to the local Verizon store and it seems like we could save money by switching to their 2 year contract. But I want to confirm a couple of things with the forum, as I know sometimes you get, um, incomplete info from the sales folks.
On Sprint, you have to pay an additional charge to make the phone a hotspot. It is THE reason I rooted my S4, to be able to do that for free. I was told it is a free include on the Verizon smartphone plans. So can y'all confirm that is true, and talk about any issues/details I should know about? It would sure make the deal pretty sweet if that is included and pain free!
It sounds like it's easy to change the plan we are on for anticipated data usage. Most of the time, we have very little data usage during the month as we're almost always on a wifi connection. But we own an RV and can use a lot of data (hotspot) when on the road, for up to 2 months at time. Is it as easy as they say to call and bump it up for a couple of months, and then back down when done? Any pitfalls or costs associated with it?
How about roaming data usage? I was told at the store that as long as 50% or less of the data usage is roaming, they don't care. True? Horror stories?
Yes Hotspot usage is included in the plans for everyone except people like myself who still have unlimited data plan. You can also bump up your data if you expect to go over your limit and also bump it back down whenever needed without any problem or extra charges. Your roaming question im not sure about.
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No data/domestic roaming on Verizon. 50 states included
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Savagerun said:
Yes Hotspot usage is included in the plans for everyone except people like myself who still have unlimited data plan. You can also bump up your data if you expect to go over your limit and also bump it back down whenever needed without any problem or extra charges. Your roaming question im not sure about.
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That's technically incorrect. It's not free on the $60 2gb unlimited talk and text plan, it's $15 each device(not a more everything plan). In a more everything plan it'll be included.
OP say you get 4gb of data.
1. On more everything it would be $70 for data and $40 for each smart phone so $150 total. The data is one allotment.
2. You do it on the individual plans on a family account, it can be done, but it would be $60 for 2gb per line and unlimited talk and text, so $120 for two with 4gb total. Add $15 per phone for hotspot, if it's on both then the plan cost is equal.
3. Edge, a bit more complicated but if you 4gb just get 10gb as the cost is the same because of the access fee discount per line.
joshua.justice said:
That's technically incorrect. It's not free on the $60 2gb unlimited talk and text plan, it's $15 each device(not a more everything plan). In a more everything plan it'll be included.
OP say you get 4gb of data.
1. On more everything it would be $70 for data and $40 for each smart phone so $150 total. The data is one allotment.
2. You do it on the individual plans on a family account, it can be done, but it would be $60 for 2gb per line and unlimited talk and text, so $120 for two with 4gb total. Add $15 per phone for hotspot, if it's on both then the plan cost is equal.
3. Edge, a bit more complicated but if you 4gb just get 10gb as the cost is the same because of the access fee discount per line.
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Thanks for the break down. I think I get it.
Another question about the hotspot. When hooked to the Hotspot, can the phone still make/receive calls? Assuming S5 and Note 3.
jejb said:
Thanks for the break down. I think I get it.
Another question about the hotspot. When hooked to the Hotspot, can the phone still make/receive calls? Assuming S5 and Note 3.
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You're welcome, unfortunately I understand it all too well as I work at Best Buy and I'm fairly certain it wouldn't as voice is still a separate network frequency and CDMA can't use voice and data simultaneously. When they do VoLTE (voice over lte) it will work. They're suppose to be rolling out anytime.
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You're welcome, unfortunately I understand it all too well as I work at Best Buy and I'm fairly certain it wouldn't as voice is still a separate network frequency and CDMA can't use voice and data simultaneously. When they do VoLTE (voice over lte) it will work. They're suppose to be rolling out anytime.
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Mostly right.
If you're in a 4G area, you can make/receive a call and still use 4G data at the same time.
quantumalpha said:
Mostly right.
If you're in a 4G area, you can make/receive a call and still use 4G data at the same time.
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Ding ding a ding ding ...
Data drops on phone call if on 3g .... LTE and voice work simultaneously no problem I do it all the time.