Well, on release date I ran to the bell store on got my new shiny galaxy s i9000m. Since then I have had my phone cut off. I called mother bell to find they think my phone has been tethered with my laptop (which was stolen last sunday ) even though I have never tethered with this phone. It seems it is logging my web surfing data properly but any data an app uses seems to be counted as out of plan tendering. Before u ask I do have an "unlimited data" plan and am keeping 3g usage well under 5gb. First is anyone else having this fight with bell and do u think it could have something to do with apn settings. My phone is not rooted (yet) as I want to leave everything stock until they fix the billing issue.
It is increasing my bill by between $200 and $500. What a joke
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this is the reason i don't want to use bell
good lord Fido, protect us all
sorry to hear that, but thanks for share, it is definitely something we should be aware of.
SGS i9000 phone is a data hungry device, specially if you have lots of sync with emails, facebook, tweet, weather, etc, etc....
but regardless of any of that, even if you go as far as backing up your ROM to an online storage, it will not consume so much data
the worst part is WTH is wrong with Bell? you got the unlimited data plan, so why the hell are they trying to charge you $500
this is ridiculous.
They think that app data on the phone is tethered data. And being that I don't have a tendering plan they are charging me $6 per mb. Nice huh. After they told me to pay and get lost twice I went to the store and had a fit. Store believed me and got hung up on when trying to fix the issue with the call center. They are escalating it but in the mean time I am accumulatING lots is coin on my bill
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I am having the very same issue as you on bell with the i9000. I am covered under the new 6GB plan but i am getting charged pay per use an well as in plan usage. I am alreeady over 100mb in pay per use (600$ i beleive) even though i never tether my phone and tethering is included anyways.... I called bell and they said i shouldnt have to worry about anything once my bill comes as it will be taken care of... i sure hope so.
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I am having the very same issue as you on bell with the i9000. I am covered under the new 6GB plan but i am getting charged pay per use an well as in plan usage. I am alreeady over 100mb in pay per use (600$ i beleive) even though i never tether my phone and tethering is included anyways.... I called bell and they said i shouldnt have to worry about anything once my bill comes as it will be taken care of... i sure hope so.
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They are full of it. They will bill u if it is being marked as out of plan. I have a hand delivered mail from them telling me I owe $2000 for tethering . I can add your info into my general complaint if u want. Pm me and I can pass your info onto the regional manager the local store is dealing with to prove they need to fix there ****
On a side note my apn looks to be setup to use the phone for tethering and does not use the suggested nexus one apn settings again I feel that all data NOT traveling over port 80 or not travelling through the browser is being considered tethering by their proxy
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Unlimited data isn't a normal plan option so maybe they're confused. I didn't even think you could get unlimited data. I know they had unlimited mobile browsing but I would think that's just web browsing if you grandfathered that feature in.
I have a very old grandfatherd smartphone data plan. At the time they offered 500mb or unlimited. The trick is unlimited means 5gb and then they start pulling out the network abuse card to have legal course to shut down your data. Kinda like the unlimited plans in the US.
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Well, definitely keep arguing with them, but unless your plan is godly you can also grab 6 GB of data for $30, which includes tethering. Then they can't accuse you of tethering anymore, so they'll just accuse you of roaming data charges instead >_>
Have you had an HSPA smartphone before or just CDMA ones? If this is your first HSPA phone maybe the plan transfer from CDMA didn't go properly. This is Bell we're talking about, staffed by idiots.
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Well, definitely keep arguing with them, but unless your plan is godly you can also grab 6 GB of data for $30, which includes tethering. Then they can't accuse you of tethering anymore, so they'll just accuse you of roaming data charges instead >_>
Have you had an HSPA smartphone before or just CDMA ones? If this is your first HSPA phone maybe the plan transfer from CDMA didn't go properly. This is Bell we're talking about, staffed by idiots.
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that is a good point. I did have a cdma smartphone b4 so I never know. I am paying $40 for my data but that also includes enhanced vm, unlimited txt and mms, and caller is so I will have trouble giving up what I have as to add those features to the data plan u have would cost more than what I pay now. Currently I have an awesome plan setup between two phones and if I had to restructure it would cost way more
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You might want to check you APN settings.
Some carriers use different APN for phone data and tethered data.
In my case, first time I booted my GS, it was the thethered data APN that was selected and I had to change it (hopefully I always check APN settings when using a new phone).
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You might want to check you APN settings.
Some carriers use different APN for phone data and tethered data.
In my case, first time I booted my GS, it was the thethered data APN that was selected and I had to change it (hopefully I always check APN settings when using a new phone).
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That is exactly what I was think as one of my posts stated. Thank-you for the confirmation on that. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca which on bells site is used if u want to tether. Because I am on an older smartphone plan I believe it is thinking all app data is tethered data.
P. S. These forum posts have cost me like $10 as I am using the xda app. Lol. They are saying they will get back to me mid next week about this
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I just checked and my APN is also inet.bell.ca. I don't know if it's supposed to be something else but when I go to self serve it says I've been using data in-plan. I'm covered for tethering anyway, but still, if that's the tethering APN they shouldn't make it the default for this reason.
I'm Getting billed fine.. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca .. I just checked my un-billed usage and it shows all usage in-plan Data use. I have used about 20meg since the 8th also I just have 500meg data plan a month..
I agree. The settings for the nexus one are different and probably the right ones for my data plan however I don't want to change them yet as they will probably tell me that I must have stopped tethering after I got the letter from bell and stick me with the charges. Until mid next week I need to be able to reproduce the issue so I van prove they are retarded.
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Mine is set to inet.bell.ca and i'm getting billed OK... shows all usage in-plan Data use.
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Are u on a data plan that includes tethering? I think all the data plans within the last year have. I have an older one that is saving me money over the new ones
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Are u on a data plan that includes tethering? I think all the data plans within the last year have. I have an older one that is saving me money over the new ones
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Ya all the new plans do included Tethering.. just checked... your likely right as to the reason this is happening to you.. the computer system is not seeing that you have a data plan.. might take a few level up to fix that for you but I have a feeling if this is what is happening there are others as well having the same issue.
yeah Im going to call in right now and tell them to fix it right away, Im rightfully paying for my 6GB data package, I WILL NOT pay them a cent more than I agree to. 30$ is quite enough already for 6GB.
BTW i changed it to pda.bell.com and it seems to be working... ill keep you guys informed.
On a side not, if they were smart i think they would charge at least simi reasonable rates for out of plan data usage while roaming or not... ie 1$ per megabyte. That way people would travel with their phones and actually bring in more revenue for said provider... I dont carry my phone while i travel because of the ridiculous 54$/mb.
Lol. Without roaming ire is 6 per meg. I just calculated the total they think i owe and it Ian up to $ 3408 since Aug 6th. Gotta love it.
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On a side note my apn looks to be setup to use the phone for tethering and does not use the suggested nexus one apn settings again I feel that all data NOT traveling over port 80 or not travelling through the browser is being considered tethering by their proxy
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that exactly is.
Bell is stuck in the ancient times, they believe only WAP and port 80 browsing is web, and everything else is over use.... like WTF? wake up, we are in the 21s century already, we are not stuck in web only phones.
At least Fido and Rogers are less knuckle heads as Bell
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That is exactly what I was think as one of my posts stated. Thank-you for the confirmation on that. Mine is set to inet.bell.ca which on bells site is used if u want to tether. Because I am on an older smartphone plan I believe it is thinking all app data is tethered data.
P. S. These forum posts have cost me like $10 as I am using the xda app. Lol. They are saying they will get back to me mid next week about this
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you know what, raise them hell
put your video on YouTube or something, remember the guy from Virgin in Canada, same ****, Virgin tried to charge him $8000 on data usage on his iphone.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/06/“...ks-up-8k-wireless-bill-while-visiting-france/
I'll vote for you, lets create a new facebook or twiter account to raise this issue.
the media will pick it up in a snap.
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does in if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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Take it you ment 10gigs.
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Im sure most peeps know this but tmobile does if fact throttle your 3g service if you go over 10mb here is the text I got today.
(Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.)
Anyway just FYI in case people didnt know.i called and argued about paying 30 bucks a month to be throttled down.they said when u go over you switch from 3g to edge.thanks ping33tx
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it's 10gb not 10mb. and that's a reasonable limit before throttling. there are other threads on this as well.
Does this count for downloading 10mb apps and stuff? I have not been throttled down and thought this was only a myth...10gb is a lot to go through a month for me anyway though
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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What are you doing on your phone that you need 10GB of data?
This is not new news. It's been like this for months.
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Nope the chat rep said 10mb.now that person might have made a typo im just saying what was typed
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lol. then everyone on this forum would be throttled on their first day of their billing cycle every month....
it's 10gb. been that way for a long time.
Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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Well being a shift worker at a refinery n working nite,netflix comes in handy to make 12hrs go by been doing it for months n months n never got this text until today
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There you go!
As I am new to android/smartphones, can anyone tell me if there is any easy way to check your current data usage to see where you stand?
Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Yeah that might be,but the way I see it if your paying 30 bucks a month for unlimited then it should be just that.Hell my dsl is faster n cheaper lol and use ten times what I use on the mobile..Oh well just passing along,some peeps might not know.just trying to help
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Hell your DSL is not the same as wireless. 10GB on a cellular network is a lot.
Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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Yep ur correct on that.despite that moral of the story is if ur paying for a product you should be able to get that product.Right?
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this has been discussed thoroughly in other threads....
but, basically, you are still receiving the product (unlimited web access, which is the same cost even if there isn't 3g in your area), just at a slower speed. a lot of cable and dsl companies do the same thing and their networks aren't as impacted by heavy bandwidth usage.
The dumb part is 10gig's isn't much anymore, some apps/games download 80-100 megs worth of stuff.
Not only that but last I checked the Samsung Vibrant comes with mobile TV app does it not?
So whats the point of having apps that are going to eat up data, are only good when they have 3g and we only have 10gigs or use or that?
It makes me sick every time I see ATT's dumb as use our internet commercial and don't state it's a 250 meg and 2.5 gig plans.
Tmobile isn't very far from being in the same boat because they give you a phone with mobitv and advertise the screen and playing movies and then expect you to not use it (and the data cell line to it) to stream videos/movies/shows?
Same thing for Win7, etc..
ALL these phones now are capable of pulling 100's of gigs of data in a month, yet they want us to accept a neutered phone with only 10 gigs of worthy access at descent speeds.
And no edge isn't worthy, might as well not have a data connection for anything other than checking email or getting tweets because it's way to slow.
So either go back to selling just dumb phones, or they need to expect people to be using more data.
I just don't see the point in living in this internet data based world and having all these damn cell phone companies refuse to allow us to enjoy it by not offering a true unlimited internet 3g connection to our phones.
And it's not the data pipe, or the usage thats a bull**** argument because the following companies offer unlimited internet through cell towers for laptops/home computers verizon/virgin mobile/sprint and sprint offers unlimited 3g to their 4g phones.
So no it's not about them "coping" with us the evil eaters of all the bandwith. If that was the case nobody, not one company could offer true unlimited 3g/4g but it is out there just not for the vast majority of the companies/options and you have zero options if you are GSM only like me which sucks.
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
I got a message telling me my connection was throttled as well. Problem is I haven't been using my phone. I checked my usage on the t-mobile website and it claimed my phone used a gigabyte while I was sleeping. At various points my phone seems to do a few hundred megabytes at random. This has been happening the last few days, which corresponds to the time that the gmail application stopped syncing on my phone. Is this a common problem?
Virgin Mobile/Sprint is giving unlimited 3G away for a few reasons
- Subscriber additions
- Underused EV-DO network (soon to be overloaded with unlimited usage+Evo/Epic; it's already happening) There isn't enough bandwidth to go around. Two people streaming YouTube constantly is enough to bring your overall data through put below 1Mbps where it was probably 2Mbps before.
- Subscriber additions, Sprint is hurting for them.
Very well spoken thats been my whole point to start with
I think 10gb is very far considering at&t gives you 2gb for 25 and then charges you more if you go over that
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Yes and I could offer to chop off only a pinky instead of your whole hand so thats better as well right?
Don't think so, if the cell companies want to make use of the airwaves that are limited, they should be forced to offer a unlimited internet package on all their services.
Same for home phone companies, if they want to offer phone service they need to offer dsl to all their customers, and have a unlimited package.
It's just tiring to see commercial after commercial showing this and that on the internet and you have to go to virgin mobile to be able to get unlimited 3g for a home connection. And they only charge me 10 bucks more than the cost for the internet on my phone.
So no I don't think it's to unreasonable to ask for unlimited 3g on my vibrant when you consider I pay about 80 bucks a month, and I use about less than 1 hour of talk time, only a few hundred text so the only real thing they are providing me in quantity for 80 bucks is internet and they can't even do that "right".
Honestly it hardly effects me because I don't have 3g where I live, but I do travel to 3g areas so I don't want to have that slow down.
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Over at AndroidCentral they said you can no longer tether for free if u do it will cause u 14.99 a month? Is this legit? PDA Net is now rendered useless? Anyone shed some light on this?
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Although we already knew that a new plan for customers that want to Tether was coming soon and then yesteday, confirmed for November 3rd, the folks over at BGR have recieved details on the new tethering plan. T-Mobile will officially offer the $14.99 /MonthTethering and WiFi-Sharing Add-On beginning November 3rd. The plan will allow subscribers to use their smartphones as a tethered modem or Wi-Fi hotspot. To qualify for the $14.99 Tethering add-on, you will need to have a 3G/HSPA+ capable handset in addition to an unlimited web plan of $19.95 or higher. The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled. The plan will be available for Postpaid and Flex Pay Customers.
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To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
What I'm wondering is what's going to happen to everyone that was grandfathered in with the 10gig data softcap. Do they stay with 10gig data plans or are they knocked down to 5gig softcaps. Yes, I understand it still unlimited but I'm not interested on tethering with an Edge connection.
Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
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If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?
Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.
If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".
Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.
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The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled.
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i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.
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I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.
This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.
Or I could just be flat out wrong.
This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/
via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.
I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.
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So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
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No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.
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In my own situations, whenever I want to stream or do anything data intensive, I always have wifi around anyways ie. work, school, home etc
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.
So, Sprint called me today to inform me that they are dropping my service because of excessive data roaming. They are not charging me an ETF and they are giving my 250$ deposit back. I am not upset about that, I am upset about not being able to use my Evo and the community that comes with it. I will miss the HTC XDA community if I have to go to Motorola or LG or SE.
My only choice when it comes to coverage is Verizon. The only phone that seems to be on the horizon is the Bionic that comes with LTE. I don't want the Droid X or Droid 2 because LTE is about to launch and would enjoy to have it, along with that sweet sweet dual core. Bionic seems to be the best bet, but I remember hearing something LG dropping a phone soon too.
My main question is, what Android phones are coming out this year with LTE and dual core? I don't mind being without phone service for a few months waiting.
wow, may I ask what your excessive data usage amounted to?
elegantai said:
wow, may I ask what your excessive data usage amounted to?
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Of course.
It wasn't really excessive it was just that the majority of it was roaming. I only get Verizon coverage at work where I use my phone the most (when it comes to data, have WiFi at home) so I used the PRL hack to be on it all the time. I heard about them being upset about this and I was expecting at least a warning but they are straight up dropping my service.
My average data usage was 4 to 5GB on roaming with around 300-400mb on Sprint for the past 4-5 months.
Noob question...how do you know you are recieving roaming data? I have been complaining about horrible data speeds and told them i want to cancle with no fee. They said they basically base that off of calls dropped.and not data. I uae my phone minimal for calling but data is another story and it is horribly slow.
Verizon has a HTC android coming out soon, it's suppose to be a really good one. Sorry I cannot remember the name of it, but when I get a chance I will post it back in here with a link for you. Sorry to hear about Sprint. Did you use the data hack by any chance?(sorry, posted above) If so that's why I never jumped on board with that. Good luck, hopefully you'll still be here on XDA.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/thunderbolt-verizon Here you go.....HTC Thunderbolt
Doesn't the Unlimited Plan include free roaming?? Where is there verbiage about "excessive roaming"??
that sucks. Unlike some ISP's for land lines which come to agreements so each can freely use the others networks, I don't think any wireless providers do anything of the sorts. While its ****ty they didnt give you a warning, i'm sure they were probably paying up the ass to verizon.
Well, best of luck to you!
Advice: search around here and see the threads on how to use your EVO on Boost Mobile.
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Noob question...how do you know you are recieving roaming data? I have been complaining about horrible data speeds and told them i want to cancle with no fee. They said they basically base that off of calls dropped.and not data. I uae my phone minimal for calling but data is another story and it is horribly slow.
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If you go to the Sprint website and look at your usage. There will be a roaming section in the data usage there.
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Doesn't the Unlimited Plan include free roaming?? Where is there verbiage about "excessive roaming"??
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It's there....in the fine print.
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It's there....in the fine print.
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Yeah the fine print. if you go read the official data usage section it states that no more than 300mb may be used per month. Hints why 4-5gb got your service dropped instantly. You just let Verizon run over sprint then reverse and run them over with that bill they had to pay.
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Yeah the fine print. if you go read the official data usage section it states that no more than 300mb may be used per month. Hints why 4-5gb got your service dropped instantly. You just let Verizon run over sprint then reverse and run them over with that bill they had to pay.
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Actually the 300MB is for data cards. There is no roaming limit. They will cancel you if the majority of your usage is roaming and towers over Sprints.
I'll keep my eye on the Bionic and the Thunderbolt. Hopefully Motorola will work with the community and not have locked bootloaders.
Correct the roaming is for minute usage not data. People get kicked for the talk not data. Data roaming booting applies to data cards as well not phones but you will be charged overages on phone data roaming.
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Just occurred to me that if I want a quick exit from my Sprint contract sans ETF, maybe I should flash a VZW PRL and start hitting the 3g network hard.
ZachPA said:
Just occurred to me that if I want a quick exit from my Sprint contract sans ETF, maybe I should flash a VZW PRL and start hitting the 3g network hard.
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Pretty much what happened to me after a few months.
DirtyShroomz said:
Correct the roaming is for minute usage not data. People get kicked for the talk not data. Data roaming booting applies to data cards as well not phones but you will be charged overages on phone data roaming.
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That is not correct. I am being dropped for data roaming on my Evo. No charges or anything are being applied to it.
There is somewhat if a simple solution. Tell them you roam mostly at home and they will send you a free airave (you have to push to get it for free). Basically it is a small sprint tower that goes thru your local ISP. Ooonce powered up, about two hours) it works flawless.
Best of luck
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That is not correct. I am being dropped for data roaming on my Evo. No charges or anything are being applied to it.
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Well, DS works for sprint. Maybe you should PM him your number so he can fix those missing data roaming charges.
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Doesn't the Unlimited Plan include free roaming?? Where is there verbiage about "excessive roaming"??
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If you log into your Sprint account and look under your plan details it says 500 mb of roaming data.
The EVO you wish you had
They say that there is such things that are "unlimited", but it's not really. They just set a cap so high that they believe no one will hit. Altell used to do this with their messaging plans.
It's kind of crappy that they're doing this to you, but I would avoid any Moto product unless the C-mod gets ported to it quickly. Motorola phones from what I've seen and used of them, are terrible. Moto Blur sucks, and build quality isn't bad but they have awkward builds. Decent battery life in them, and decent support for their high end devices. But that's about it.
Okay so today i tethered with my atrix for the first time. I used the Barnacle program. I only tested it out and checked my email thats it. Just now i got an email and text from at&t saying "did you know an elgible data plan is required for your 4g Smartphone? Plese establish your 4G data connection today". Thing is ive had an iphone 4 data plan capped at 2gb since June 2010. I went online and their the same price at $25.00 each only one is for "4g" HSPDA and the other is for iphone. Do they know im tethering? Whats the difference in plans? Should i switch??? Ive heard of them doing things like this for ppl with the unlimited plan but im already on the 2gb plan.
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Okay so today i tethered with my atrix for the first time. I used the Barnacle program. I only tested it out and checked my email thats it. Just now i got an email and text from at&t saying "did you know an elgible data plan is required for your 4g Smartphone? Plese establish your 4G data connection today". Thing is ive had an iphone 4 data plan capped at 2gb since June 2010. I went online and their the same price at $25.00 each only one is for "4g" HSPDA and the other is for iphone. Do they know im tethering? Whats the difference in plans? Should i switch??? Ive heard of them doing things like this for ppl with the unlimited plan but im already on the 2gb plan.
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It has nothing to do with tethering. You are probably still listed having an iPhone data plan. So you just need to switch to a Smartphone data plan. They're basically the same thing but with different names. You can breathe now.
Lol so what is the difference? Should I switch or stay
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Lol so what is the difference? Should I switch or stay
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Just call them and confirm to switch the name of the data plan. They'll end up doing it themselves anyways.
And just for future reference for anyone else. The text message will explicitly mention "tethering" if that is the problem. Otherwise, it's probably just the "kind" of data plan you are using. This would go for people coming from an iPhone, Blackberry, or a feature phone.
way wrong thread, my bad
You scared me a little bit haha. I just switched from modified APN (reverted them back to stock) to Barnacle (seems to run better anyways) just to get rid of wap.cingular from my usage charts. I used MyWi on my iPhone 4 for a long time and never had wap.cingular appear until I modified the APN on the Atrix. Hopefully no more red flags on my usage.
Hi,
So on my nexus 4, I activated a SIM card on AT&T's new go phone plan which gives unlimited talk, text and data for $35.
Talk and texts are working fine, but data is not.
I have set up the APN correctly, and the data icon (H or H+) appears indicating that I am connected. However, it does not transfer any data (web page not available error etc).
Does anyone know the workaround to this issue?
thanks much.
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Hi,
So on my nexus 4, I activated a SIM card on AT&T's new go phone plan which gives unlimited talk, text and data for $35.
Talk and texts are working fine, but data is not.
I have set up the APN correctly, and the data icon (H or H+) appears indicating that I am connected. However, it does not transfer any data (web page not available error etc).
Does anyone know the workaround to this issue?
thanks much.
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just reading their new go phone plans.. for $60, you get 2gb data. so, at $35, i highly doubt that you are getting unlimited data. call att, let them figure out the issue. if you are getting a connection, but arent getting a data flow, its either your plan or an issue on their side http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=24397&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=36623
Yeah check your plan and make sure your have sufficient data.
Umm... The $35/month plan is not for smart phones, the plan description for that plan specifically says smart phones get WiFi only for data.
$35.00/mo.
500 minutes of calling within the US, plus unlimited nationwide text/picture/ video messages and unlimited text from US to Mexico, Canada and over 100 countries. Calls over 500 minutes are charged at 10c/minute. Unlimited data/mobile web for feature phones only. Plan not available for Smartphones.
http://m.att.com/shopmobile/wireless/plans/voice/sku6610486.html
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Umm... The $35/month plan is not for smart phones, the plan description for that plan specifically says smart phones get WiFi only for data.
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Doh! I guess I could see where someone didn't see the "Smartphone Plan" chart, could look at the wrong "Basic/quick messaging phone plans" chart and saw the word "unlimited" under "Data/Mobile" without hitting "View details", but unlimited everything for $35 a month? Come on, everybody would be on that plan.
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Doh! I guess I could see where someone didn't see the "Smartphone Plan" chart, could look at the wrong "Basic/quick messaging phone plans" chart and saw the word "unlimited" under "Data/Mobile" without hitting "View details", but unlimited everything for $35 a month? Come on, everybody would be on that plan.
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My point was for the OP that he will not get data, except for MMS, on a smartphone, there is nothing wrong... (S)he just didn't do their research and got the wrong plan and it is working as intended.
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My point was for the OP that he will not get data, except for MMS, on a smartphone, there is nothing wrong... (S)he just didn't do their research and got the wrong plan and it is working as intended.
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I guess I was a bit harsh; I just find it mind boggling that someone with 442 posts would not know that. Maybe I just misinterpreted the post or it is their first smartphone.
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I guess I was a bit harsh; I just find it mind boggling that someone with 442 posts would not know that. Maybe I just misinterpreted the post or it is their first smartphone.
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yes you did misinterpret... the questions is, per the OP, is there a workaround?
I am fully aware that they it's not for smartphones...
are they doing the IMEI block net, etc?
ap1618 said:
yes you did misinterpret... the questions is, per the OP, is there a workaround?
I am fully aware that they it's not for smartphones...
are they doing the IMEI block net, etc?
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I'm not sure if this will work - but it's worth a try...
If you have a 'feature phone', insert your sim card into that device and call them to have them provision data to your sim. Once complete, remove the SIM from the feature phone and insert it into your Nexus 4.
I am using my Nexus 4 on medianet with ATT and haven't had any issues. Their account manager does not recognize my device - however, that being said, I do have a 'smartphone exception' on my account from years ago as well.
I have read accounts of some Nexus users being forced to a smartphone plan, but I have had no issues as of yet. HSPA isn't the best on AT&T, but I'm often on wifi and you can't beat $10 a month for data.
I believe they are using some kind of browser detection. The same way they can tell if one is tethering.
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I'm not sure if this will work - but it's worth a try...
If you have a 'feature phone', insert your sim card into that device and call them to have them provision data to your sim. Once complete, remove the SIM from the feature phone and insert it into your Nexus 4.
I am using my Nexus 4 on medianet with ATT and haven't had any issues. Their account manager does not recognize my device - however, that being said, I do have a 'smartphone exception' on my account from years ago as well.
I have read accounts of some Nexus users being forced to a smartphone plan, but I have had no issues as of yet. HSPA isn't the best on AT&T, but I'm often on wifi and you can't beat $10 a month for data.
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This is the kind of answer I was looking for... thank you!
Could you please elaborate how you got on the medianet plan in the first place? What is a "smart phone exception"?
You could PM me if you like... thanks!
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I believe they are using some kind of browser detection. The same way they can tell if one is tethering.
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If this is the case, couldn't you use Maxthon or another browser that allows you to set the Browser (User) Agent ID that it reports? The real problem would then be that webpages that recognize that browser would format their pages for it, causing them not to be displayed optimally. This site might be helpful: http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/mobile_ids.html
Edit: apparently you can't do that in Maxthon anymore, at least not that I can find... Dolphin used to allow this but I don't have it installed anymore.
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ap1618 said:
This is the kind of answer I was looking for... thank you!
Could you please elaborate how you got on the medianet plan in the first place? What is a "smart phone exception"?
You could PM me if you like... thanks!
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I have had media net data on my line for years - I want to say it was originally added back in 2006. When I upgraded my line at that time to a Blackberry, I had them keep me on the media net plan and they added a 'smart phone exception' to my contract at that time. Basically allowed me to have a Blackberry without paying the additional $10/month (at that time) for the 'Blackberry Data'.
I have no idea if its still possible to add such an exception - I highly doubt it.
To try and add media net to your account now, you'll have to insert your sim into a 'feature phone'. Once it is active on their online account manager, you can go in and add media net data under the data plan options (I believe now its $15 month for ATT users). Once you've added it, put the sim back into your Nexus 4 and hope for the best.
If its detected as a smartphone, they will send ATT subscribers a text message saying so and upgrade you to a smartphone data plan automatically. Not sure how they handle go phone users in such a situation.