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Sprint charge for 4G when there is no 4G,is this legal?

When I bought my Epic few Sprint sales rep told me that we will be getting 4G in Buffalo NY in october,here comes january still no 4G.
Well I went to sprint store and asked why they chargin me for 4G when we dont have it yet(and most times im getting 2g speed on 3g,lol).This is what they said "We are charging you for the fastest cpu,even though we dont have 4g speed the cpu pulls information so fast that its considered 4g"lmfao!So I told the dude "listen you can tell that to a child that was born yesterday" but he insisted that he knew what he was talking about,lol,in other words I dint get anywhere.Speaking to a different rep she told me something like that also,lol.And a third rep said some differet but equally outrageous sht.
So my question is:Is this legal for them to be bullshitng us like that?Because im thinking about going back to sprint store and recording that conversation,but what can I do with it?Sprint promised me 4G and on that bassis I droped Tmobile which was way faster than Sprint(5-7mbps vs sprint's 1-2mbps) and now Tmobile is even faster.So I droped my beloved tmobile and got Epic instead of Vibrant on a 4G promise and now im being charged for 4G that I dont have,lol.
Anyone have any advice?Can I return my Epic and can i be tooken off the contract and get my money back?

lots of threads online for it..basicly your SOL. its a "premium data" charge cuz your phone can do more is their recent quote. The sad thing is they are going after clearwire (which they own a major share of) because only like 10% of epic and evo owners live in 4g areas and they dont want to pay clear wire for every evo/epic. but they have no plans on removing the charge from us. So either ***** enough to get out of your contract and move to another carrier or deal with it. Also you could set you phone into roam only mode and talk non stop and DL on verizon and sprint will break the contract for you =)

Yes its legal, you signed the contract. They are being sued, so while its obvious they are charging you for 4g, they now describe the fee as paying for the advanced hardware and not actually the 4g.

muyoso said:
Yes its legal, you signed the contract. They are being sued, so while its obvious they are charging you for 4g, they now describe the fee as paying for the advanced hardware and not actually the 4g.
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For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?

lviv73 said:
For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?
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Lte and wimax are completely and utterly incompatible.
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lviv73 said:
For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?
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How can you help? Call up sprint and cancel your contract. Make it clear to them that you will not pay for a service you cannot use.
Otherwise, just pay the fee and realize that even without 4g you are getting a better deal than you would on any other wireless provider.

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Lte and wimax are completely and utterly incompatible.
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I know that I can flash Epic to Verizon,so I assume that only Verizon's 3g will function and no 4g?

lviv73 said:
I know that I can flash Epic to Verizon,so I assume that only Verizon's 3g will function and no 4g?
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The only way to do that is illegal. There is no "flashing" to verizon, as verizon does not offer the Epic. The only way to do it is by fuddling with ESN's and that is not legal.
Also, wait until you see the prices Verizon will put on its 4g service. Think they are gonna offer it for free? LOL.

lviv73 said:
For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?
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Yes they are charging you for the Premium Data Addon which all of their top end phones require...the Addon includes 4g, unlimited data, telnav gps, "honor of using a better phone on their network", "cool tax" and a few other things...its like when hotels have "Resort Fees" and include some things only 1% of the people use anyways...
Either way I personally don't mind the fee anymore..don't get me wrong I'm not exactly thrilled about it and find it dumb too..but I would rather have a $10 fee then tiered data like the other guys >.>
And yes FDD-LTE used on verizon and AT&T will be 700mhz, Wimax is 2.5ghz...

muyoso said:
How can you help? Call up sprint and cancel your contract. Make it clear to them that you will not pay for a service you cannot use.
Otherwise, just pay the fee and realize that even without 4g you are getting a better deal than you would on any other wireless provider.
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Yeah we do get best deal but not on internet speed,sometimes my 3g speed is only 70kbs and my 2g speed on ATT iphone 3g(2 years ago) was 80kbs,lol.
So yeah its the best deal unless your girfriend spends hours downloading movies feom megaupload.
Yeah I might go back to tmobile and get Vibrant,damn I realy did have high hopes for WiMax 4g but the way its lookin it might be another year or two before upstate NY gets it.

muyoso said:
The only way to do that is illegal. There is no "flashing" to verizon, as verizon does not offer the Epic. The only way to do it is by fuddling with ESN's and that is not legal.
Also, wait until you see the prices Verizon will put on its 4g service. Think they are gonna offer it for free? LOL.
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People that have sprint 4g dont pay extra for it.

OMG NOT AGAINNNNNNNNNNNN

gTen said:
Yes they are charging you for the Premium Data Addon which all of their top end phones require...the Addon includes 4g, unlimited data, telnav gps, "honor of using a better phone on their network", "cool tax" and a few other things...its like when hotels have "Resort Fees" and include some things only 1% of the people use anyways...
Either way I personally don't mind the fee anymore..don't get me wrong I'm not exactly thrilled about it and find it dumb too..but I would rather have a $10 fee then tiered data like the other guys >.>
And yes FDD-LTE used on verizon and AT&T will be 700mhz, Wimax is 2.5ghz...
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Tmobile dint have a data cap,i downloaded over 50gb one month,its unlimited.Sprint have 3 or 5gb data cap on their 3g but no data cap on 4g(convinient for them since almost nobody have 4g).

lviv73 said:
Tmobile dint have a data cap,i downloaded over 50gb one month,its unlimited.Sprint have 3 or 5gb data cap on their 3g but no data cap on 4g(convinient for them since almost nobody have 4g).
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T-mobile had a data cap of 5gb..but they dropped it in favor of throttling...aka if they see you having too much data multiple months they will throttle you...
As for sprint..they have unlimited 3g and 4g data..the data cap limits are on wireless cards..not cellphones....

They do now have a cap. All carriers have a "soft" cap, but Sprint if you have 4G doesn't have a cap. 3G has a soft cap.
bleh...

I sell phones for an indirect agent and we get grilled about that all the time. The fact of the matter is, you're usually going to pay less with Sprint, even with the Premium Data Add-on. It's for the 'big screen, fast processor, and access to the 4G network' is what I tell customers. You can look at it one of two ways- 1) They're charging you a mandatory fee for a hardware feature- not a network feature- so it's bogus. Without 4G you have no 'Premium Data' experience. 2) These two phones are far superior to any other offerings on Sprint- even the Optimus S doesn't really even come close. You're going to have a lot better internet experience than someone with one of the other phones- it will be measurably faster even on 3G.
What you have to ask yourself is- would you have a problem with them charging a lower rate for someone with a flip-phone to have unlimited internet than someone with an Android phone? If that doesn't seem to unreasonable, then realize that this isn't too much different.
In regards to the legality of it- you signed a contract, and that contract did not guarantee you would ever have WiMax in your area. The sales rep might have told you that, but it wasn't part of your contract. You can try really hard to be let out of your contract, and they might let you, but their position is (legally) sound.

Sprint doesn't have a cap for 4g because they don't know how much you use. This may have changed (doubt it), but they can't even look it up. I worked at sprint tech support for a year back when wimax was introduced to the networkm

Sprint doesn't have a cap for 3G or 4g.

blakerboy777 said:
I sell phones for an indirect agent and we get grilled about that all the time. The fact of the matter is, you're usually going to pay less with Sprint, even with the Premium Data Add-on. It's for the 'big screen, fast processor, and access to the 4G network' is what I tell customers. You can look at it one of two ways- 1) They're charging you a mandatory fee for a hardware feature- not a network feature- so it's bogus. Without 4G you have no 'Premium Data' experience. 2) These two phones are far superior to any other offerings on Sprint- even the Optimus S doesn't really even come close. You're going to have a lot better internet experience than someone with one of the other phones- it will be measurably faster even on 3G.
What you have to ask yourself is- would you have a problem with them charging a lower rate for someone with a flip-phone to have unlimited internet than someone with an Android phone? If that doesn't seem to unreasonable, then realize that this isn't too much different.
In regards to the legality of it- you signed a contract, and that contract did not guarantee you would ever have WiMax in your area. The sales rep might have told you that, but it wasn't part of your contract. You can try really hard to be let out of your contract, and they might let you, but their position is (legally) sound.
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And you have a tech job,lol.Cpu speed or ram amount dont have nothing to do with internet speed.No disrespect to you becuse youre probably reading this of sprint's manuscript.But anyone that has knowledge of electronics knows that this is bs that dont even makes sense to human brain.
I owned Behold 2 and MTS3gs with 600mhz cpu(phones half as powerful as Epic) and they both were almost as fast as sprint's 4g on tmobile's hsdpa network.You mean to tell me that sprint is charging me for 4G addon hardware inside Galaxy S Pro(Epic) that I bought and own?At least they can come up with a better sounding scam,and if sales rep promised a 4g that never came that should give a consumer a right to get out of contract.

Processor speed does affect Internet speed. You can load pages cached faster with a faster processor.

Sprint "capping" data?

My cousin's boyfriend just bought 2 verizon stores and he is telling me that Sprint caps ur data limit to 5 GB a month, then limits ur download/upload after that limit (to like 2G speeds). Can anyone confirm this?
I know T-Mobile does, but never heard of Sprint, ATT, or Verizon doing it.

Overstew said:
My cousin's boyfriend just bought 2 verizon stores and he is telling me that Sprint caps ur data limit to 5 GB a month, then limits ur download/upload after that limit (to like 2G speeds). Can anyone confirm this?
I know T-Mobile does, but never heard of Sprint, ATT, or Verizon doing it.
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I know people that have gone over 5 GB a month on 3G and Sprint did nothing of the sort.

Overstew said:
My cousin's boyfriend just bought 2 verizon stores and he is telling me that Sprint caps ur data limit to 5 GB a month, then limits ur download/upload after that limit (to like 2G speeds). Can anyone confirm this?
I know T-Mobile does, but never heard of Sprint, ATT, or Verizon doing it.
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No, they do not.
Sprint only caps data to 5GB for the laptop computer modem cards. There is no cap policy for phone data.
However, if you're using super-huge amounts of data, like 20-50gb, some people have gotten letters asking them to lower that or they'll get relieved of their contract/service. I've used 10gb in a month before with no reprecussions (on SERO). It's considered "adversely affecting the network" (outlined in the contract -- every carrier has this clause).

they do not cap phone data.

jnadke said:
However, if you're using super-huge amounts of data, like 20-50gb, some people have gotten letters asking them to lower that or they'll get relieved of their contract/service. I've used 10gb in a month before. It's considered "adversely affecting the network" (outlined in the contract -- every carrier has this clause).
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When unlimited is really not. Hey, if nothing else, it's how to get out of a contract...

lazyart said:
When unlimited is really not. Hey, if nothing else, it's how to get out of a contract...
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They were just rumors back from the SERO threads.
I think the people in question were more in the 50-100GB range.

Over the last 18 months, I have consistently used 10Gb-15Gb a month and haven't had any speed issues with 4G where I work or 3G where I live. Haven't gotten any letters, either. Back when I had one of their 3G data cards, when it came time to re-up my contract, they took the 'unlimited' off their data card plan and put a 5Gb cap. Didn't effect the phone plans at all, though.

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Overstew said:
My cousin's boyfriend just bought 2 verizon stores and he is telling me that Sprint caps ur data limit to 5 GB a month, then limits ur download/upload after that limit (to like 2G speeds). Can anyone confirm this?
I know T-Mobile does, but never heard of Sprint, ATT, or Verizon doing it.
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I hate the fact that store managers etc. Will lie or assume stupid **** like this without even doing one once of research.
He or she will give this info to someone who will trust their title as "yeah they know what they are talking about" and spread that bs around.
I would constantly have to correct people when I worked at sprint. Most thought I was the asshole until I showed them proof.
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I hate the fact that store managers etc. Will lie or assume stupid **** like this without even doing one once of research.
He or she will give this info to someone who will trust their title as "yeah they know what they are talking about" and spread that bs around.
I would constantly have to correct people when I worked at sprint. Most thought I was the asshole until I showed them proof.
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Lmao!!!! I would love to have you as a sprint rep
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scubafun said:
Over the last 18 months, I have consistently used 10Gb-15Gb a month and haven't had any speed issues with 4G where I work or 3G where I live. Haven't gotten any letters, either. Back when I had one of their 3G data cards, when it came time to re-up my contract, they took the 'unlimited' off their data card plan and put a 5Gb cap. Didn't effect the phone plans at all, though.
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Sprint originally marketed the mobile broadband units as unlimited. I bought one in 2007. At some point they decided 5gb would be the limit. I refused to re-up just so that I could keep the unlimited terms. When I bought my Epic in October I knew I wouldn't need it anymore and told Sprint I was killing it off.
The rep even recognized that I was still on true unlimited and asked me if I was sure I wanted to drop it. i told him I would just use the phone for access. So of course he tried to sell me the hotspot app. Thanks, but no thanks.

There has been a bit of press on this topic because analysts are expecting all carriers to follow att's move in this area. My take: ATT means Absolutely Terrible Throughput.
You heard it here first on xda.
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I believe this is true as well, I have heard about this as well we will soon all have a data cap as well as be paying more on a monthly service charge with all U.S. providers, and theres nothing we can really do. It's just how the cookie crumbles I guess.

I go over 5gb of data on a regular basis...
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Governor Killer?
The new ViperRom has a "Governor Killer" built-in. Apparently Sprint throttles the data speed based on demand. I noticed a huge difference in 3G download speed with the Governor Killer active.

[Q] Tmobile Bandwidth Limit

Hello Everyone, I am currently with Tmobile and I have my G2 rooted and I love it. I use the portable hotspot feature quite a bit at work so I'm signed up for tmobiles "unlimited" internet on my phone. However Once I hit 5gb bandwidth for the month I received a text message saying that I had hit the 5gb cap for the month and for the duration of the pay period I would still have internet since I'm signed up for "unlimited" but I would have a reduced speed... Let me tell you right now its very reduced. So my first question is, do you guys have this problem? and my second question is, which service providers don't have this lame cap? My friend is on Sprint currently and he's used 12GB bandwidth so far this month and can still use his 4G speed which would be nice. So I may go with Sprint however I'd like to keep my options open so do you guys know if Verizon or At&T have the cap as well? Also what kind of phones would you guys suggest with the two? Preferably I'd like to fix the problem with Tmobile however I don't see that happening because when I went in the store they said I was already at the most internet /month.

Currently the only 2 providers that dont have a cap AFAIK are sprint and verizon. ATT used to have one, but was taken away back when the first ipad came out and now they only offer 2gb and charge you 10 dollars a gig over that. Sprint phones arent all that great right now ,probably the best phone on sprint right now IMO, would be the epic 4g. Verizons best phone is the thunderbolt, which ironically isnt for sale yet, but it will this month. they also have the iphone and some other android phones (fairly outdated at this point)
You got to remember that verizon is more expensive than t-mobile. Sprint is fairly expensive too and their 4g phones require an extra 10 dollar fee for bs reasons. If you want the unlimited data youre going to have to pony up the cash.
If i was you i would wait for the dual core phones to come to those carries, the droid bionic for verizon and who knows what for sprint.
Ps. I heard that verizon is throttling the top 5% of its users. I read it in engadget but alas, i dont have that carrier/problem so i havent looked into it.
Hope i helped a little
Edit: forgot to mention that if you want 4g you have to make sure that you are in an area that has the 4g specific for that carrier. Your friend has 4g on sprint so that means youre at least in a wimax (sprint 4g) area.
Verizon has a different 4g (LTE) that might not be in your area at this point in time.
Also sprint has 3 4g phones, t mobile has 3 and verizon has only 1 and it isnt even out yet.
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Nice break down.
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personally with the price per month my wife and i are paying for tmobile i would never leave.
best way to do it is to have 5 member family plan... cheapest way at least.

A T-Mobile tech support rep told me that he was told in a recent meeting that they were going back to the 10 gig cap. He said a date wasn't mentioned...who knows if this is true or not, I'm just sharing what I was told.

That was amazingly helpful and I have a lot to consider now. I do have it pretty nice with Tmobile right now because we have a 5 family member plan and if there is a prospect of 10gig coming out then I will probably wait it out. And if the new phones come out and I still want to change then I will. Thank you so much for your help!

There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.

kgold708 said:
There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.
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I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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dynamikd said:
I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Nope, my bad. I'm wrong on this one. Good luck!

Well Tmo finally saw what we were doing in data throttling and it did work realllly well..but all good things come to an end.
I have however managed to "defeat" throttling by....staying under the 5GB. Through wifi surfing. I have wifi at home and at work and those are the two places you find me . Simple.
But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
Tmo has got to smarten up. Still they're still my favorite compared to the others.

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But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
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Your broadband connection being shared via wifi must really be slow for HSDPA to be faster. What is it, DSL?
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I agree,your broadband connection via wifi must really suck. I get an average of 13gb down & just under 3 gb up. Some day's I'll get a little over 15gb down. You should probably get a new router.
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Sprint's Network Loses Badly in National Speed Test

Sprint has proven once again that their Network vision upgrade needs to have happened yesterday. These results show not only that sprint's network is struggling in some areas but MOST areas.
They only managed a 480kbps average EV-DO (3G) speed, the slowest speed tested. Their 4g and 3g networks were also some of the least reliable networks tested.
Get the picture Sprint. We need a real 4g network on a real spectrum. A 2500mhz Wimax network spottily thrown together isn't going to cut it, neither is 10 year old backhaul. It's make or break time Sprint.

Are we looking at the same chart?
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All I care about is if I get good reception.
And I don't.

Should have come to Baton Rouge. They would have scored 0.05 megabit on the speedtest all day long!

The old adage holds true, you get what you pay for..

Well, first I'd like to mention these stats offer no souce or details on how/where and how many times these figures were tested, which I usually like to see (I'm the skeptical type)
That being said, I agree. I'm lucky to be in Chicago, pretty decent 4g and 3g coverage, but 3g's been slowing down more and more and it shows in many places. They need to pick it up on 3g (their main network). No reason for a tower to only offer 1.2 (1 T1 line minus 300kbps for sprint control) even at 4am on a Tuesday in the suburbs, when Verizons almost always 2mpbs or more with full bars on 3g (and has been for years), same network technology. Its data speeds on 3g I've never been quite happy with.
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makes me miss verizon =[

Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...

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makes me miss verizon =[
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I know someone who says they can see their data speeds die on Verizon with evry new phone launch. Especially the 4g signal.

compuw22c said:
Ya know, they all suck right now. Verizon's going metered and is cdma (less support), T-mobile's going to get eaten by AT&T because our government can't do the only thing it's supposed to do while it's busy doing everything it isn't supposed to do, Sprint is suffering 3g data slowdown, and again is cdma which means less support.
I've been toying with an idea lately to get the World version GSII, do the iphone trick (get an att sim card with basic voice, pop that in a 2g orig iphone to get on the edge data plan which is ONLY available as unlimited, pop that in a 3g iphone to get auto-upgraded to the $30, grandfathered unlimited data plan) and use it on AT&T with unlimited data. The ONLY issue I have with this (as I'd have my unlimited data, GV for sms) is I'd be paying money to a truly terrible entity (AT&T) and I sincerely morally object to everything they're doing. And yet it would mean a much much larger community...
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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.

Jayavarman said:
Until Sprint gets rid of their unlimited data plan, I will tolerate them for now.
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+1 Hopefully they won't go the route of everyone else. If they did I'm going back to a dumb phone because unlimited data is the main reason I have a smartphone.

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My sister is doing an even easier and cheaper trick. Get a t-mobile vibrant or motorola defy for $200 then unlock it your self and use it with a $15 a month medianet unlimited data plan. You could take advantage of at&t's $50 unlimited everything prepaid plan too. You just need to make sure to get a phone which works with att's 3g frequency bands (moto defy/vibrant/i9000/sgs 2/rogers nexus s) but isn't on their system as a recognized smart phone ,(in other words one they don't sell).
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Only problem with this is I don't believe the i9000 or gsII (or any world phone) works on tmo 3g aws bands. Only att plus they'll be att soon...
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yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?

Spring is the new tmobile
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xTmDarren said:
yeah Verizon did this test.. and im sure they did it in Verizon areas.. These test are like benchmarks on our phones... yeah its cool to say.. hey I have the fastest internet on my phone.. but truthfully it doesn't mean anything.. I personally use my WIFI for the most part and use my 3g/4g randomly when im bored shopping with my wife.. besides... I have unlimited 3g/4g.. I guess sprint lost bc of that too?
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I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?

In the end Sprint will show us that sticking with them meant nothing. As soon as Verizon gets their tiered data underway. Sprint will go that route too, and give us just a little more than ATT and Verizon. They know we will have nowhere else to go! I just wish I had ditched sprint in February when I started too. Verizon 4G is in my area and i'm stuck with slow speeds.

nebrando said:
I also use wifi most often when I am surfing with my phone. This test was performed by Verizon? I didn't catch that part. Where did you see that?
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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The test was done by PCMag (http://www.pcmag.com/Fastest-Mobile-Networks-2011)
That being said, my work is a VZW Deadzone, where-as I get at least some Spring signal. I average 9mb/1.5mb down/up on 4G in and around my neighborhood and if my 3G signal can be slower than what is on the chart, its still far faster than anything I need to do daily. If I need more, I'll go 4G/Wifi and be done with it. I abuse the hell outta my unlimited, averaging upwards of 6GB a month data on my phone alone (the wifey also has a Epic on the plan) and I've now thrown a GTab 10.1 into the mix and tether of the phone.
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Well, the whole line is highlighted and there's no source listed so, probably. We still haven't seen any testing method data so I call shenanigans til I see a source named.
That said, my moms droid charge pulls in 16/4 (my home internet is only 12/1.5). But that's 4g and not all their new phones are...
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Undoubtedly there is a correlation between the all-you-can-eat data and the slow speeds - ie burden on the network.

(TMO) Poor data speeds?

So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?

Have you ran a speed test? If not get the app from the play store and then go into the T-Mobile store and ask them what is up.
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So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
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Speeds are fine over here
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cincygeek said:
Have you ran a speed test? If not get the app from the play store and then go into the T-Mobile store and ask them what is up.
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Of course I did, how else do you think I know? I've already asked and been told that my plan doesn't support the speeds. I was getting the exact same speeds in multiple places, as I did with my Sensation so I know this is true. I did change my plan, but apparently, it won't take effect until my next billing cycle, which seems stupid to me but whatever. I just don't understand why they've never tried to push a better, possibly more expensive, data plan?

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Speeds are fine over here
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What data plan do you have?

I'm using T-Mo's old Android data plan and i'm getting Faux G speeds of 7-13Mbs. You don't need to upgrade your plan to get faster speeds. I do believe they have to provision the device for use of their 42Mb service but that should have been done when they activated your new sim card. Do you know which plan you had before?

tony yayo said:
So I find out today that I haven't really been using "america's fastest 4g network". Apparently my old Basic Android data plan or whatever it's called, doesn't give me full 4g speed. I've only been getting HALF of what I could be getting. This wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't paying $30 bucks a month for this when the 2gb unlimited plan (I know, sounds funny, huh? 2gb UNLIMITED) is only $20. Even when I purchased my GS3, no one told me, "Hey, you know, you're not getting the full advantage of the speeds your phone is capable of." I guess they'd rather I spend the extra $10 a month and use less bandwidth at the same time. Why not, huh?
So my question is two-fold. First, is it possible those of you who claim to get sloooow dl's ALSO are on this old data plan and THAT's why it's so slow for them? And second, why didn't anyone tell me the whole time I had to deal with these schmucks for the last two weeks, that I needed a different data plan to achieve the full potential of the phone? Why don't they advise people with this older data plan that the speeds are not the same as the newer plans? They definitely never advertised the new plans as being faster than the older one's so how the hell was I ever supposed to know?
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T-Mobile's enhanced backhaul 3G service isn't that much faster in real use than normal 3G. Important to realize Tmobile doesn't have a 4G network, just an enhanced 3G one.
I have a Dell Streak 7 (cell now turned off) that barely outpaced their normal 3G.

Are you in a 4g area? Home isn't for me but work is... big difference between the 2
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tony yayo said:
What data plan do you have?
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Preferred Android Plan... they changed it from my old G1 plan. Grandfathered
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Depending on where you live (how far away from the nearest tower) your reception is going to be impacted differently than others. I myself live in Arlington Heights which is about 25-30 minute outside of Chicago.
Here's what I get on T-Mobile with my GS3. Speeds for me are perfect. Remember T-Mobile doesn't have true LTE 4G. They use HSPA+ which is like 3.5G.

A few people in chicago area in this thread posted their speed test and seem to have decent results..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734739&highlight=your+carrier+speed+test

Speeds are fine in central texas
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1SiK1500 said:
A few people in chicago area in this thread posted their speed test and seem to have decent results..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734739&highlight=your+carrier+speed+test
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I'm in Arlington Heights as well. I don't get more than 10Mbps. Hmm..
And I had the old grandfathered data plan also.

Still being told I need the newer plan for faster speeds. Got my grandfathered plan reinstated for now until I figure out the deal. Just in case.

tony yayo said:
Still being told I need the newer plan for faster speeds. Got my grandfathered plan reinstated for now until I figure out the deal. Just in case.
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Weird.. I have Classic Unlimited Talk/Text for $59 and then 2GB of data for $20.

Have you tried the network boost apps from market? I tried this one and it has increased my 4G speeds at home which was poor before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freshnetwork
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LuRock said:
Have you tried the network boost apps from market? I tried this one and it has increased my 4G speeds at home which was poor before.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freshnetwork
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I've been curious on apps like that. Is it just a placebo app or does it actually work? Is there any scientific proof to back this app up?

Chicago281 said:
Weird.. I have Classic Unlimited Talk/Text for $59 and then 2GB of data for $20.
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Yeah, you have the plan they say I need. That or the 5gb plan, but I have the old $30 data plan that i guess has the 5gb threshold. One of the mods in the TMO forum told me my plan is fine. So why you are getting double the speeds I'm getting, in the same exact town? So I ended up calling tech support and she tried to do something but I swear whatever she did, my speeds are actually a tad slower now.

So i guess its just a bad signal at home. I live by Johnnies Beef and get terrible speeds. Went to Olive Garden by Woodfield mall last night and was pullin in over 20mbps. Crazy how a couple miles makes such a huge difference.

Hold on. When you upgraded your phone, did they require you to upgrade your plan also? I hardly use over 2gb a month and I'd like to keep it that way, not some gimmick 5gb for $30
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