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[A] Ultimate market-found against Battery drain

Hey there,
yesterday i was searching around the web cause of my battery drain (my hd2 was empty in <1 day).
Then i found an market app: Battery FU
What does it do? It simply disables mobile data connection, when the hd2 is in standby. after wake up the phone, the network is connecting.
now i lost 4-5% of my battery in ~4h in normal use.
Thats great!
Give it a try and post your experience.
(And sorry, if this is already posted)
lg,
Prexx

pReXx said:
Hey there,
yesterday i was searching around the web cause of my battery drain (my hd2 was empty in <1 day).
Then i found an market app: Battery FU
What does it do? It simply disables mobile data connection, when the hd2 is in standby. after wake up the phone, the network is connecting.
now i lost 4-5% of my battery in ~4h in normal use.
Thats great!
Give it a try and post your experience.
(And sorry, if this is already posted)
lg,
Prexx
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Though it does save some battery...but I found it causes more data drops...maybe it'll work for you though..

so no background sync ? quite useless for a smartphone :-/

Patchank said:
so no background sync ? quite useless for a smartphone :-/
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It's called manual update. I actually prefer to sync apps myself, then to have them doing it themselves all the time. So to each, his own...
Thanks for the tip, Prexx.

nzxtneo said:
It's called manual update. I actually prefer to sync apps myself, then to have them doing it themselves all the time. So to each, his own...
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+1, Agree.
Why should my HD2 update the latests news all the time, when i just look every 1-2h on it? Makes no sense for me.
When i want to read them, i open the facebook-app or whatever, update the news and read them.
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Thanks for the tip, Prexx.
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No problem.
Little update:
8,5h without charging: 80% battery (normal use).
lg,
Prexx

Manual sync is fine for news, facebook, etc but for emails/Google Voice you want push notifications.

MarlinFF said:
Manual sync is fine for news, facebook, etc but for emails/Google Voice you want push notifications.
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Definitely +1 for that. I rely on my emails too much to have to manually update them every 15 mins, but it does sound like for some it could be really good.

Known Apps that prevents phone to sleep.

I just like to compile a list of apps to stay away to preserve battery life by staying away apps that prevent your phone from going into sleep.
On the related subject, does the following apps and tools prevent phone from going to sleep. Can anyone verify?
Gmail auto-sync
Android Assistant with auto boost
Current widget
Spare Parts
Thanks

franklin20uk said:
I just like to compile a list of apps to stay away to preserve battery life by staying away apps that prevent your phone from going into sleep.
On the related subject, does the following apps and tools prevent phone from going to sleep. Can anyone verify?
Gmail auto-sync
Android Assistant with auto boost
Current widget
Spare Parts
Thanks
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Current widget is fine (even reporting every minute, drain is negligible), as is g-mail auto-sync as long as the interval is reasonable say hourly or longer, whats causing issues with spare-parts?

how do you reduce the intervals of auto-sync, because I couldn't find this option on my dhd.
For spare parts, I was just asking.
I heard the stock sms messaging app drains a lot of battery too, so I am switching to Go sms and see if it helps.

franklin20uk said:
how do you reduce the intervals of auto-sync, because I couldn't find this option on my dhd.
For spare parts, I was just asking.
I heard the stock sms messaging app drains a lot of battery too, so I am switching to Go sms and see if it helps.
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I'd say that the sms app draining is just another rumor. And for the first post none of the listed drain much. My settings everything on (3g) and not current widget but battery monitor widget and the average drain when idle around 3-5 mA with occasional peaks, due to data transfer while syncing. Also whatsapp on and various other background apps. Oh and CM7 latest build.

i really hate gmail
it gives huge spikes..

Where I check my Partial Wage Usage with SpareParts
I am getting these items
Dialler (Most usage)
UID 10030
Android System
Maps
GO SMS
Messaging
Calender Storage.
How can I disable Maps and the stock Messaging app? I don't why they are there since I have location turn off, gps turn off. And I turn off auto-retrieve and notification for my default messaging app.
What exactly is Dialler? what does it do?
Can anyone help. My phone is burning insane amount of battery during stand-by.

Spare parts? I think it works ondemand basis. I think YouTube is another app preventing sleep.
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ghostofcain said:
Current widget is fine (even reporting every minute, drain is negligible), as is g-mail auto-sync as long as the interval is reasonable say hourly or longer, whats causing issues with spare-parts?
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How do I manually set the intervals of gmail sync? I can't find it.
Many thanks

franklin20uk said:
How do I manually set the intervals of gmail sync? I can't find it.
Many thanks
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I haven't found any way to do it, people say you can change it when you factory reset, but otherwise, you can't

Maybe Gmail uses push, so updated on demand... (just guessing)

yes, auto-sync practically is push mail, but there isn't an option you can change it to fetch intervals instead?
I can use the stock email app, but its so crap!
Anyone know any decent email client solution for android?

franklin20uk said:
Where I check my Partial Wage Usage with SpareParts
I am getting these items
Dialler (Most usage)
UID 10030
Android System
Maps
GO SMS
Messaging
Calender Storage.
How can I disable Maps and the stock Messaging app? I don't why they are there since I have location turn off, gps turn off. And I turn off auto-retrieve and notification for my default messaging app.
What exactly is Dialler? what does it do?
Can anyone help. My phone is burning insane amount of battery during stand-by.
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same here, maps is a real pain in the arse. It really does drain my battery.

thenocturnalnurse said:
same here, maps is a real pain in the arse. It really does drain my battery.
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If there's some strange drain by maps have you tried manually closing it from the settings-applications while you don't actually use it? That should do it.

thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.

Vispe85 said:
If there's some strange drain by maps have you tried manually closing it from the settings-applications while you don't actually use it? That should do it.
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franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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+1 mate, I haven't used it in the first place and I tried force closing it and it still comes back.

franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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Yep, that's the problem with closing apps with task killers etc, if android thinks it should be running it will restart it

Titanium Backup has been preventing sleep on my phone recently for some reason.

ghostofcain said:
Yep, that's the problem with closing apps with task killers etc, if android thinks it should be running it will restart it
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I'm not using task killers, but still maps is there preventing my phone from sleeping for like 1-2 hours my phone is running 48% while in reality I'm not touching it nor even waking it from sleep. It just ticks me off.

franklin20uk said:
thing is I killed it using android assistant and they just start pop up again.
and I haven't even used it to begin with.
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Seriously if you use the "killed selected" option to terminate these processes it will just drain more battery. These processes will get restarted as soon as they are killed. That's the android way. I am already thinking dumping this function in my app - Android Assistant. The reason I let it stay is there are still some android 2.1 users and they need this feature.
If you are thinking about saving battery, root your phone and uninstall all unneccessary battery-draining apps
or use the normal way to save battery: turn off gps, bluetooth, wifi, lower screen brightness etc.(and these are also available in Android Assistant )

I un-installed maps and im good to go since i use Co-pilot
No problems with titanium backup pro

Gallery is too SLOW :(

Last time its not like this, but when i try to click now my gallery,
the picture albums are too slow to come up!

Jahy420 said:
Last time its not like this, but when i try to click now my gallery,
the picture albums are too slow to come up!
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Same here. I think it's because I enabled the Facebook Sync feature or I have too many media xD

Ya, kinda' laggy.

The gallery is crap.
Use this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder&feature=search_result
It's amazing.

Gallery is fine.
The reason it takes ages to load FOR YOU is because you are using task killers that unload it from memory.
Each time you load it up, it has to fully load again, rather than instantaneously popping up.

dsswoosh said:
Gallery is fine.
The reason it takes ages to load FOR YOU is because you are using task killers that unload it from memory.
Each time you load it up, it has to fully load again, rather than instantaneously popping up.
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I have to agree here. I read the "task killers are bad" article and initially dismissed it as "no way" but since getting my Play I have not cleared all my tasks and it definitely runs perfectly fine and seemingly faster than my other Android devices that I religiously killed tasks on.
That said I still run ATK for when I actually have to kill a task, ex:a program is stuck and won't even FC, or my email acts up occasionally and won't retrieve. I find killing the email app and then opening it again cures it.

Red_Kop said:
The gallery is crap.
Use this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder&feature=search_result
It's amazing.
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I use this aswell. Only complaint is that it says QuickPic at the top. Annoys me xD and the camera icon needs to be bigger.

I've found if I don't force close Gallery, its process will become a huge battery drain and my Play won't last a full day. That said, I do prefer it over Quick Pic, as it does run faster (for me).

dassub said:
I've found if I don't force close Gallery, its process will become a huge battery drain and my Play won't last a full day. That said, I do prefer it over Quick Pic, as it does run faster (for me).
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Nope. Open processes do not drain the battery.
When you are not using them, the Android o/s freezes the process which eliminates processing power and battery power.
The only time an open process will drain your battery is if you are using a custom rom that doesnt support process freezing.

dsswoosh said:
Nope. Open processes do not drain the battery.
When you are not using them, the Android o/s freezes the process which eliminates processing power and battery power.
The only time an open process will drain your battery is if you are using a custom rom that doesnt support process freezing.
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Problem is, when you go to battery usage when this problem occurs, Gallery does appear as taking up anywhere from 25-35% of the battery life.
Only a phone restart or force close of the app fixes the issue.
It doesn't happen too often anymore.

dassub said:
Problem is, when you go to battery usage when this problem occurs, Gallery does appear as taking up anywhere from 25-35% of the battery life.
Only a phone restart or force close of the app fixes the issue.
It doesn't happen too often anymore.
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I have had my phone on this charge for 11h 28m and 46 seconds. My battery level is at 51%.
I have used the gallery today to show my work friends a couple of photos and a video. (about 30 seconds worth).
Gallery battery usage reports at 0.0%.
Something is wrong with your set up. The gallery works fine on my phone and doesnt drain the battery at all.
I suggest you are either using a custom rom that doesn process freeze the gallery, or you have an app killer that is killing the gallery.
I cant think of anything else it could be.
Hope you fix it anyway. GL

My phone takes a bit to load pictures too. I find that the droid in general needs a better way of shutting down unused programs. Too often do i need to restart my phone to get it working at top notch again.

i used quick pic and its fine now

Jahy420 said:
i used quick pic and its fine now
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Same here....quickpic loads up aLOT faster than gallery

dassub said:
I've found if I don't force close Gallery, its process will become a huge battery drain and my Play won't last a full day. That said, I do prefer it over Quick Pic, as it does run faster (for me).
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My battery sucks lately. It may be since the last xloud update.
I can't get through a day just on standby. If I make a call or two it is dead before I get off work.
I use the task killer all the time and almost never use the gallery and don't use facebook. I do you Go launcher but it wasn't bad before the update.

Don't use the task killer. Install some scripts and custom Init. d scripts. Best way to conserve battery is to install juice defender ultimate
Saves battery 2x.
Lowring battery voltage also helps
Sent from my R800i using XDA App

ncaissie said:
My battery sucks lately. It may be since the last xloud update.
I can't get through a day just on standby. If I make a call or two it is dead before I get off work.
I use the task killer all the time and almost never use the gallery and don't use facebook. I do you Go launcher but it wasn't bad before the update.
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Last update had a bug which drains the battery.
There is a fix thread on the forums somewhere that explains why it is bugged.
You need to go to settings, wireless and networks, mobile networks, network operators, then select manual instead of automatic.
The bug is basically that when you leave it on automatic, it will constantaly scan for radio signals whether you have a signal or not.
Took me a while to find out what it was, then someone else found a proper fix for it.

Can you tell me which forun and the thread title with those bugs?
Thanks for the Tip.

dsswoosh said:
Last update had a bug which drains the battery.
There is a fix thread on the forums somewhere that explains why it is bugged.
You need to go to settings, wireless and networks, mobile networks, network operators, then select manual instead of automatic.
The bug is basically that when you leave it on automatic, it will constantaly scan for radio signals whether you have a signal or not.
Took me a while to find out what it was, then someone else found a proper fix for it.
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Do you have a link about this??

Just select wdma/gsm preferred in the networks settings
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[Q] Facebook/Linked in... APK or WEB?

Hi all,
So here is my question...
I've been having horrible battery drain and have not yet put my finger on what is causing it.
I'm thinking it could be facebook/linkedin/other apps on my phone.
Is there any reason to install the APK version when a mobile web version exists?
I see the web version being a good choice as it won't be an app installed but rather just visiting a web page.
Any thoughts?

get better battery stats and that should let you see whats causing the drain....or look in settings>battery and see whats running there as well. the apk is there for convieniance and thats about it. the constant updates and radios being on will kill your battery cause the phone is consistently looking for new information. its really all user preference but to me bookmarking the site is just as simple as having the app. you just may not get the update that your friend you dont talk to is eating a taco and taco bell as fast.

Use greenofy donate version to freeze them with keeping notifications.

johnylovejoy said:
Use greenofy donate version to freeze them with keeping notifications.
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good idea i totally forgot about greenify.

johnylovejoy said:
Use greenofy donate version to freeze them with keeping notifications.
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It appears greenofy does a lot of what autostarts does. I use autostarts for all apps and disable most everything (for instance facebook with an app is installed/uninstalled etc).
Having said that, after wiping my phone yesterday and doing a fresh install of TriForce 3.1 with Agat 5.1 I've noticied a significant INCREASE in up time.
I only installed a few normal google apps. Linkedin/Facebook I'm using the web version. I got 21 hours out of my S4 with 2 hours of screen on.
When I have my phone configured "normal" i've got close to 90 apps installed.
I'm going to run a "bone stock" from for a few more days to see how the battery life is (i know you have to give the kernal a few days to burn in).
I just wish my phone could last a lot longer before dying.

try ktoonz kernel.......they have alot of preset kernel settings to help you get the most out of your battery and still maintain performance in the ktoonz store. i normally run 1 day+ with around 3 hrs 45mins screen time......and my screen time is usually gaming (psp emulation)and tweaking differant settings or downloading movies music etc.... so its pretty heavy usage...

OK, What Did I Do Now!

Bragged to the apple world how great my battery is, now I musta turned something on that's killing it quickly.
Look at the percentage of Android OS in the first, then the 2nd screen shot.
How do I figure out what is killing it?

XiphoneUzer said:
Bragged to the apple world how great my battery is, now I musta turned something on that's killing it quickly.
Look at the percentage of Android OS in the first, then the 2nd screen shot.
How do I figure out what is killing it?
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Disable location services and reboot.

donalgodon said:
Disable location services and reboot.
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OK I did that, but I'm sure I did not put all three of the checkmarks on, (I think 1 or 2 of them were checked when new).
My guess is that it's "google location service" ?????

XiphoneUzer said:
OK I did that, but I'm sure I did not put all three of the checkmarks on, (I think 1 or 2 of them were checked when new).
My guess is that it's "google location service" ?????
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Did you update your ROM recently? If yes. There is your answer.

stanley08 said:
Did you update your ROM recently? If yes. There is your answer.
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No I have not, and would you mind telling me how to turn off OTA updates, (so stuff doesn't get installed without my knowledge). thx
Who knows of a good app that can let the user know which apps are drawing how much juice?

XiphoneUzer said:
No I have not, and would you mind telling me how to turn off OTA updates, (so stuff doesn't get installed without my knowledge). thx
Who knows of a good app that can let the user know which apps are drawing how much juice?
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1. What firmware are you on? Settings > About phone. Say the build number
2. To turn off updates Settings > About phone > Update. But it never gets installed without your knowledge.
3. Install Wakelock detector (from play store) or BetterBatteryStats (search for it here on xda)

stanley08 said:
1. What firmware are you on? Settings > About phone. Say the build number
2. To turn off updates Settings > About phone > Update. But it never gets installed without your knowledge.
3. Install Wakelock detector (from play store) or BetterBatteryStats (search for it here on xda)
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"Use wireless networks" ....................... WOW, what a battery killer !!!
This little check mark makes an unbelievable difference in battery productivity. I'm mean "really", (like a whole new device with it unchecked).
I am on Ml9.
Do you folks have a preference as to which battery app I should download?

XiphoneUzer said:
"Use wireless networks" ....................... WOW, what a battery killer !!!
This little check mark makes an unbelievable difference in battery productivity. I'm mean "really", (like a whole new device with it unchecked).
I am on Ml9.
Do you folks have a preference as to which battery app I should download?
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Lol. Forget Battery Apps. Most even take up more battery.