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So I can't post a link. Google "Xooming in on the Xoom and Honeycomb" or go to Cloudy Days and Connected Nights (google that one too).
No thanks, go promote your site elsewhere.
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@singraham
I got to cdnn.lightshedder.com, but no Xoom article. Still have the Archos 101, or has that been relegated to the RMA bin? I was camped on the Archosfans forum for a while looking at the Gen8, but it became evident that the devices were low quality, the firmware buggy, and the support non-existent.
it is cdcn.
Still have the Archos. Saving it for when I have to send in the Xoom for the 4g upgrade. My site is totally non-comercial and I thought members might be interested.
Thanks for the lucid write-up. I enjoyed it and your other pieces.
Link to singraham's blog,
http://cdcn.lightshedder.com
Nice write up its a good review
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I've just heard that the European 3.1 update for the Asus Eee Transformer is rolling out today, and I'm forced to stick with 3.01 on my EU Xoom!!!
I wish I'd followed my gut feeling and not rushed into purchasing a Motorola product. I am now stuck with an obsolete product with no scheduled EU release for the update.
This company sucks big time.... rant over
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Can't you just flash the US Images and manually update to 3.1?
No because I would unfortunately lose my 3G
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Can't you just flash the US Images and manually update to 3.1?
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Looking at this post at the motorola support forums, that mayleave us with no warranty.
The whole lack of an official update has pissed me off too. Really crap on Motorola's part.
I feel for you guys
Feel for you guys.
They suck in this front totally.
I feel you, but how is it obsolete? Its still works doesn't it?
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How come Asus can push 3.1 update out TODAY to the Transformer and we are looking at waiting for MONTHS?
I mean the whole reason of getting teh Xoom was because it was supposed to be a "Google Experience" device that will get updates first. I got the Xoom and not the transformer, even the transformer is £100 cheaper, has a working SD card slot, the ability to dock to a keyboard and extended battery, and a way better IPS screen
This is my first and last Motorola purchase
ahhh damn i had the same situation i was between transformer and xoom and i buy the xoom because i hoped to get updates directly and have not to wait and wait and wait and wait.
I love android over all but on the update part apple is realy more professional and it works. Why i can't get a update if it's ready.
Like the others my first and last device from motorola
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I feel you, but how is it obsolete? Its still works doesn't it?
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It's running an obsolete buggy os that is now superceded on competitor devices! In my book that makes it obsolete. Thank god for Ebay, and with a bit of luck Motorola will get what's coming to them.... failure in the tablet market and eventual bankruptcy.
My impatience has turned to anger, sorry everyone.
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I'm with you. Totally annoyed with lack of support from Motorola. Docking station without any USB passthrough, no SD Card support, no date on release of 3.1.
Absolute RUBBISH and my last ever purchase of a Motorola produc.
Plus still no stock images. It's the lack of information as much as anything else
Would it be worth asking some Android Centric sites or tech blogs in general to write a few articles on the situation? There is a large thread on the Motorola support forums on with no info given and plenty of other threads asking the same thing.
No one is getting anywhere with Motorola and perhaps some pressure from the media might make Moto spill the beans on a release schedule?
I'm not normally into negative press campaigns but it would be a good test to see if Moto are listening (like HTC did with the bootloader issue).
> I mean the whole reason of getting teh Xoom was because it was supposed to be a "Google Experience" device that will get updates first.
Here is your problem. The Xoom was sold as a Google device in the US and the US alone. For the rest of the world it was a Motorola device, with all the baggage that brings with it, and probally shouldn't have been called the Xoom. The *only* saving grace here is that the US and EU wifi versions are the same hardware, and are software compatible. If you have a non-US wifi Xoom, flash the US software or take it back as you will never be happy with with the update situation.
If your worried about your warranty etc after flashing, be aware that store clerks cannot tell which part of the complicated electronics recived a far higher voltage than it was rated for, and this combined with nicer EU consumer protection laws means your device can be returned with impunity.
It is a shame Google decided against a Nexus Tablet, I just spent more on a Nexus S than a new LG 2x would have set me back. Mainly because I cannot be arsed with continually having to waste time jumping through hoops with Android. I love the OS, but frankly the OEM's and US carriers will kill it faster than free iPhones in cereal.
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No because I would unfortunately lose my 3G
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089695
(more to the thread) You bought a device with an unlockable bootloader -- this ALWAYS gives you a choice, wait for Motorola, or do it yourself.
To be honest I am only a semi-competent user and do not have the confidence to follow that procedure. I should not have to, the product should be supported by the manufacturer, it's not even been out for 3 months!
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andyiacovou said:
To be honest I am only a semi-competent user and do not have the confidence to follow that procedure. I should not have to, the product should be supported by the manufacturer, it's not even been out for 3 months!
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completely agree with you....i didnt pay 700 euro to do all this myself....its basic responsibility of motorola to provide the update first to xoom........
can't we do something about this? how people has raised their voice against htc and HTC had to reply.....
I have the Canadian Xoom and I am pissed at Motorola as well, my first Motorola product and soon my last, how much different is the USA xoom versus the EU/Canadian, is it that different that it takes months to release the 3.1 update ? like others have said, I paid big bucks for this I am happy with it but I do not feel conferable rooting it and I should not have to, all I want is to be able to download the photos from my DSLR, if I do not get the update soon I will root it, then Motorola can KISS MY (you know the rest), I do not believe it is Google fault for not releasing 3.1 to the non US Xooms, simply Motorola does not give a crap about its customers outside of the US,
thanks
(had to vent)
Chalk up another bonus for living in the good 'ole USA
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So apparently Google plans to up it patent portfolio by purchasing Motorola Mobility. What do you think this will mean for our handset and the future of Motorola handsets?
Good or Bad?
HyperTextTransferProtocol://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-706430 dot html
Good. Google may actually listen to us instead of ignoring us all the way (we may get updates quicker as well)
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Good, this is really good news. If not right now for current Motorola users, then for sure for the future of Android. I believe this will make new standards for android. For example Stock Gingerbread, Specs, etc. We will be seeing more phones on the quality of the Nexus 1 and Nexus S, but made by Motorola.
This also includes better OS updates because they will come straight from Google, and I hope that they will support Motorola's current rather than just their future devices. I wonder whether Google will just have Motorola make stock gingerbread phones in the future, or improve the Motorola Applications Platform...
This was more of a move to buy patents. However this helps Android as a whole, because it helps to cut down the legal BS with Apple.
As for Motorola, hopefully this will finally be the end of Motoblur forever!...
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There may be growing pains and hickups but in the grand scheme of things I think it's very promising!!!!!!
The official google post here.
It's bloody good news that is what it is
Excellent News!!!! Yippy
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The official google post here.
It's bloody good news that is what it is
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Don't have the link handy, but Engaget is covering it too. The responses are very active.
Also Engaget announced a Motorola Defy+ today for all the Googlorola fans our there...
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Why start another thread for discussing this when one was already started only a couple of hours before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219090
This is good if you plan on staying with motorola phones. It can actually hurt the other manufacturers.
Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Mmm... this topic has been brought up so so so many times...
It's hard to do anything when Google is keeping the Honeycomb source locked up. As far as I know the other Honeycomb tablets have been modified by the manufacturing company to alter certain parts of the Android OS and such, thus allowing for a bit more flexibility when it comes to development.
As far as the Xoom goes, it's the only official pure stock vanilla Google experience tablet, and Google is keeping it locked down without further notice. It's assumed that they will be ready to fully release the source for everything when Ice Cream Sandwich launches in the near future.
If the devs could use magic, they would. Until then... we must wait for ICS. The Xoom is Google's baby, as it was the first of it's kind to start the dawn of the Honeycomb era. When they are good and ready, the development scene for the Xoom will skyrocket in short notice. Trust me.
Also, the only other thing the developers can try besides just tweaking stuff is port the Galaxy Tab 10.1's Touch Wiz Rom to the Xoom. But it's a step back as it's only Android 3.1 while we are already on 3.2.
Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha I agree.
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
I'm a flashaholic. Good thing I have my thunderbolt or I would go into withdrawls.
Xoom Xoom
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
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+1 Very well said.
Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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Fully sourced custom Roms. That's what everybody is looking for. With that you would have new features, tweaks, and abilities that a stock Rom would never give you in a million years. Tiamat is the gold standard and the other devices wish they had them on their side. The team is just amazing to have created a modified stock Rom experience that works better than default stock. And when they are able to create fully customized fully sourced custom Roms... a loss for words...
Don't feel to bad because the other devices roms are usually referenced to our stock roms.
Yep i love Hammerhead!!!
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Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Awesome! How they don't realize from the past with Android custom devs how much further android could be catapulted past the competition I just don't know.
I also don't get how people are so quick to hop on the latest updates when, even without the source being released, previous versions customers by devs blow away whatever little appetizers Google farts out to us.
Anyhow, I gotta say the Xoom has come an awful long way considering the SC hasn't even been released.
Devs are friggin awesome!
Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump tenfold.
/facepalm
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may be we should all chip in n collect some money, get a hold of the guy who hacked into psn, n later even sony's main servers, n pursue hm to hack into google n get us what we need...n knowing anything about this guy, i bet he'd even do it for free...just for kicks...
"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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It's just a general statement, not literally meaning every single person. It's just something one says, and it's not meant to be taken literally as an individual. But ok: "A lot" of people are looking forward to the fully sourced, and full customization from a true custom Rom. And generally speaking... the first thing the average root user thinks of are the custom Roms when they hear the term "source code". Ultimately that's what it would mean when the source code is released. The devs will then have the proper tools to start developing new custom Roms. They will then begin to flood the market in due time with new and unique Roms, as was the same with the OG Droid.
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Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump by ten.
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There- FTFY.
You can only milk the same cow so many times, until more cows come along this rom release is milked out.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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Well I'm sure it's a valid point for you, but being a casual Android user who roots, having an Ubuntu based rom makes no sense to me. I admit I don't even know what an Ubuntu rom is for. Is it something like porting Windows OS into the tablet? If so, I doubt many users care for something like this since rom development to them is more about tweaking, optimizing, themeing and adding functions to an Android based rom. Porting other OSes is a lot more niche and caters to a smaller group of users.
So since the Honeycomb source is indefinitely locked up by Google, themed and overclocked Honeycomb is as good as we can get for now. The next best thing to wait for is Samsung to update the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Honeycomb 3.2 and we'll probably get Touch Wiz ported over.
I loved the look of the new grid10 tablet operating system and would love to see it ported to the xoom.
However it appears that the rate of development is not quite as rapid as I have been used to on my HTC phones. Is there a reason for this ? Also noted the htc Flyer now has honeycomb rims with htc sense ! Any chance anyone far more gifted and technically talented than me is going to look at developing ported roms on to the xoom? Or are we stuck with minor tweaks to the standard Roms forever?
I have yet to see anything that would persuade me to go through the rigmoral of rooting my xoom (awesome device in my eyes) which is another issue afterall what has happened to the one click root solutions that were speedily being developed ?
I hope at some point someone shows some love for this device. Motorola have abandoned it, or so it appears, what about the awesome power of the Rom chefs and genius developers of xda?
Xda for life Apple ? You can keep it !
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To be honest, the OS or skin looks kinda unfriendly for table users....i don't want to be flicking all over the place to look for my stuff....
GridOS
I've been playing with GridOS for around 4 days now and I have to say it's a bit frustrating. I own a Motorola Xoom (HC 3.2.2) and a NOOK Color (CM7) and both are pretty smooth and intuitive (as Android should be.) My current phone is a Moto Atrix (2.3.4)
I kind of understand where Fusion Garage was coming from, "trying to be different". And while I think they accomplished that, they also buggered up a [potentially] good device. The tablet hardware is nice...even top-notch...but their software layer leaves a lot to be desired. Stock Honeycomb would be an improvement on the Grid10.
The good news is that they are updating it frequently (I've already received 3 updates in just the 4 days I've used it.) I'm hoping my experience improves over time.
I hope that some devs can figure out how to get some custom stuff onto the grid 10
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My friend had the Grid10 for 2 days. It was horrible. The stock android 3.2 UI is a lot better.
no android market is a deal breaker for me
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no android market is a deal breaker for me
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Im wondering how they would go about getting android apps on to the tablet then
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supposedly it has its own market. Only it prob sucks cuz who the heck would want to developed apps for a tablet that no one has even heard of.