I opened up market today, hit the tablet section, and I was so excited as a ton of apps showed up. but, then i realized that the same 20 apps just kept repeating.
Any one else see that?
Ha yes....same with me. I had checked earlier so when I checked this afternoon and saw tons I was very excited. That is, until I looked closer
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I see the same thing but at least there's 4 more apps on the list!
What a sick, sick joke, Google.
It just keeps scrolling ad infinitum!
It'll pick up soon enough. A lot of apps already on the market, even though they should work fine on honeycomb, will have things like "android.hardware.telephony" features enabled, which will by default hide it in the market from honeycomb tablets (which lack telephony). It's a shame that the devices were released so soon after the Honeycomb API was released, but give the devs a week or so to test and tweak and a lot more should pop up once the they've amended their manifests. I quite like how Android is the complete opposite to Apple when it comes to launches, but I can see how it could be annoying .
There's definitely a few new apps in that list, trust me
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it just got updated with a list of feature. limited atm, but it's growing
It was a glitch and quickly patched. However, I had that glitch a few days go, not today.
Google is tweaking the Market app almost everyday it appears.
Spare parts question
I have a Tab and I use an app called Spare Parts that resizes (scales) phone apps to work on the Tab. Have you tried it on the Xoom?
For me the list was at least 40% longer. I installed like 7 or 8 new things. I am tempted to try the updated Thumbit Keyboard, but I am unsure. I am cheap and even 2$ would be terrible to waste.
that keyboard is awesome. You shouldn't regret it.
Tell me if anyone else notices this. Whenever you are searching apps in the market and click on an app, and then you go back it puts you all the way back up to the very top of the app list forcing you to start all the way from the beginning all over again! When you hit back it should bring you back to where you left off instead of starting all over at the top of the list. And it does it every single time too! Its annoying! Especially when you are just looking around at apps to download, you might get very far down on the list and then... BAM! You will have to start over when you click an app to view more info about it. Who feels the pain on that? This needs a fix ASAP!
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For me the list was at least 40% longer. I installed like 7 or 8 new things. I am tempted to try the updated Thumbit Keyboard, but I am unsure. I am cheap and even 2$ would be terrible to waste.
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I went and bought it. It's really just like $1.67 but I figured it would hold me over till SwiftKey released their tablet version (it's in BETA currently).
...this is actually really nice. Glad I found it, very easy vs. the default keyboard. It has a settings option for what screen size you have, just pick 10in and it adjusts accordingly...very happy with my purchase.
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I went and bought it. It's really just like $1.67 but I figured it would hold me over till SwiftKey released their tablet version (it's in BETA currently).
...this is actually really nice. Glad I found it, very easy vs. the default keyboard. It has a settings option for what screen size you have, just pick 10in and it adjusts accordingly...very happy with my purchase.
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I bought it too. It gets the job done. I find that it seems to repeat my letters alot so I have to type at a steady pace. We'll see how it works out. I feel like it's designed for smaller fingers/hands than mine.
I am a swiftkey guy so I can't wait until they release it
I bought Thumbit too. I like having multiple keyboards to choose from. Sometimes, I'm at table and the stock keyboard works well. Sometimes, I'm holding it in one hand with a stylus in the other and the slideIt keyboard works well. i use thumbit if i'm sitting on the couch holding it in two hands. All worth it.
I am waiting for swype though.
My biggest problem with non-stock keyboards is that the windows doesn't show the rest of the page, but rather an input window of sorts. That is, if i'm entering information on a webpage, using the stock keyboard, I can still see the rest of the page and navigate around it, but using anything else, I can't./
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I bought Thumbit too. I like having multiple keyboards to choose from. Sometimes, I'm at table and the stock keyboard works well. Sometimes, I'm holding it in one hand with a stylus in the other and the slideIt keyboard works well. i use thumbit if i'm sitting on the couch holding it in two hands. All worth it.
I am waiting for swype though.
My biggest problem with non-stock keyboards is that the windows doesn't show the rest of the page, but rather an input window of sorts. That is, if i'm entering information on a webpage, using the stock keyboard, I can still see the rest of the page and navigate around it, but using anything else, I can't./
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I see 32 apps none repeated.
Woke up to 11 new apps in the Tablet section of the market this morning.
Oddly enough, I feel like a couple of them don't belong there yet.
Evernote, which actually isn't tablet optimized (small icons, no multiple fragments for easier navigation, etc), but works.
and Bonsai Blast, which also works but looks like crap because it's just stretched and not in HD for the tablet.
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Ok my fellow nexus one lovers... I had a Nexus one for about a month, and upon first opening the phone, there was dust, so I immediately got a replacement. I thought it was cool that next day when I show up at work, they had sent me my replacement so I was quite suprised on the service. Anyways, the phone was great, loved every aspect EXCEPT when texting, it wouldn't register my delete, and instead, a stupid smiley... in a way, I was getting pissed cause google was "smiling" at me when I was trying to do something else.
So my question is, I really want to go back, or wait for the HD2, but I feel the nexus is a better fit, especially when I use almost all the google features... but the texting/screen issue is a factor... I know people all over have this issue, and there isn't a resolution yet (that I've found) so what do I do? Wait? Suck it up and get it again? What are your suggestions???
FREE ME FROM MY BLACKBERRY!!!!!!!!!
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Ok my fellow nexus one lovers... I had a Nexus one for about a month, and upon first opening the phone, there was dust, so I immediately got a replacement. I thought it was cool that next day when I show up at work, they had sent me my replacement so I was quite suprised on the service. Anyways, the phone was great, loved every aspect EXCEPT when texting, it wouldn't register my delete, and instead, a stupid smiley... in a way, I was getting pissed cause google was "smiling" at me when I was trying to do something else.
So my question is, I really want to go back, or wait for the HD2, but I feel the nexus is a better fit, especially when I use almost all the google features... but the texting/screen issue is a factor... I know people all over have this issue, and there isn't a resolution yet (that I've found) so what do I do? Wait? Suck it up and get it again? What are your suggestions???
FREE ME FROM MY BLACKBERRY!!!!!!!!!
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It took me 3 phones to get all my issues fixed. If you're worried about fast customer service, get a phone that is supported directly by a carrier (Mytouch3g, droid, etc).
I have a good friend who just got a droid after being a huge crackberry fan. He loves it.
The nexus one is a pilot program so there will be growing pains to endure.
In terms of the touch issues watch your other fingers around the edge of the touch screen. I notice whenever my screen goes wonky a finger that shouldn't be touching the screen is.
Keep in mind you can get other keyboards than the stock that are agruably better anyway.
Good luck and thanks for supporting Android.
Didnt realize you were talking about screen issues, since using Cyanogen I havent expierenced them, but I dont know if they've been fixed for regular users.
hmm I didn't pay any attention to it after I rooted/flashed cyanogen... guess I'm going to have to think about this one a little bit. but overall I loved it. Do you guys think it will be fixed.... someday?
Well its an issue that theyve been made well aware of on their support forums so I would assume theyre working on a solution, I dont know why they wouldnt be.
just curious, but are you using the stock keyboard?
No, im using better keyboard right now and use smart keyboard and swype from time to time, just like to mix things up every once in a while, I type so fast on this thing now that smart keyboard and better keyboard have pretty much made swype useless to me. Smart Keyboard is free in the market and Better Keyboard is like 2 bucks and is pretty similar but is theme-able which I like. I also dont use auto correct or suggestions or any of that stuff so I dont know how they work for those.
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No, im using better keyboard right now and use smart keyboard and swype from time to time, just like to mix things up every once in a while, I type so fast on this thing now that smart keyboard and better keyboard have pretty much made swype useless to me. Smart Keyboard is free in the market and Better Keyboard is like 2 bucks and is pretty similar but is theme-able which I like. I also dont use auto correct or suggestions or any of that stuff so I dont know how they work for those.
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Smart Keyboard and Better Keyboard are really just the stock keyboard with minor differences and more customization (but nothing innovational), if you really want to enjoy your typing experience - I suggest installing the HTC_IME, the typing creation cooked up by HTC for their Sense UI phones.
Nothing really beats it, I don't see how anything could. Swype though, is lovely.
I still feel like I type faster on smart or better keyboard, it could be I just havent gotten used to HTC IME yet, i used it all the time on my mytouch but ive just gotten so use to these keyboards that I dont even have to look to type, like typing this whole thing for example. I guess in the end its all just personal preference.
whats the "htc ime" ? link? seems interesting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
Im prolly picking one up on my lunch....Ive been stuck with my broken Cliq for too long.
How many others are picking up today?
I did! and i'm loving smoothness of the phone
Yea, Im really not worried about the latest and greatest, I just want a stable phone that does what it supposed to, and does it well. From what Ive heard from people that already have one, this phone pulls it off. That, an I have a pre-req of a physical keyboard, which made me not a big fan of the N1...should have mine in a couple hrs
I picked mine up already and Im impressed by the speed,but the touch screen is dare I say too responsive,when hitting the harware keys at the bottom of the touchscreen it somehow always does something on the touch screen not intended,and swype always picks up the wrong letter,I swear you barly hover your finger over this thing and it senses touch,kinda anoying,other then that my only complaints are that I set up my faves and after reseting the phone I had to do it again.I like the ui and the sense widgets but could do without the bubble icons and the bloatware,I mean for having 512 internal memory only 130 was available to me stock,and after puting about 7 apps on it's already down to 100,I mean christ my original mytouch is running 2.1 with 20 apps and I have 250 mb internal left without apps to sd.Hopefully some roots this and I can remove all the tmobile crap that you cant even use over wi-fi anyway.plus 2.2 is supposed to open twice the memory and add apps2sd support.the camera could be better,but all in all the phone is very fast and responsive so I wont complain too much,but will take some getting used to as I still love the original mytouch and it's lightweight design and the touch response seemed perfect.2 more complaints though is the slide out keyboard,not a smooth transition,feels kinda roughopening and makes a horrid noise,and the 4 row querty will take some getting used too,and the battery cover removal is assnine I can see it breaking easily.well thats all for now,will share more if I find anything intresting.
Picked mine up today. Not sure if I like the Faves app on the phone, but I'll play with it and see.
Only thing I'm noticing is that I get "The process com.htc.bg has stopped unexpectedly" message about every 10 minutes while messing with it.
Im still adding apps to it, so I'm not sure how it will react once it starts getting loaded with processes running.
the faves widget is fine but the app itself is kinda hokey, not terribly practical.
I've had mine since early April and still LOVE it
I would pick it up if there was some way for me get it at the 129 price.. I already have 2 tmobile lines, mine, and the wife's.. dont wanna pay any more a month than I am arleady paying, I dont see the need to IMHO.
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I picked mine up already and Im impressed by the speed,but the touch screen is dare I say too responsive,when hitting the harware keys at the bottom of the touchscreen it somehow always does something on the touch screen not intended,and swype always picks up the wrong letter,I swear you barly hover your finger over this thing and it senses touch,kinda anoying,other then that my only complaints are that I set up my faves and after reseting the phone I had to do it again.I like the ui and the sense widgets but could do without the bubble icons and the bloatware,I mean for having 512 internal memory only 130 was available to me stock,and after puting about 7 apps on it's already down to 100,I mean christ my original mytouch is running 2.1 with 20 apps and I have 250 mb internal left without apps to sd.Hopefully some roots this and I can remove all the tmobile crap that you cant even use over wi-fi anyway.plus 2.2 is supposed to open twice the memory and add apps2sd support.the camera could be better,but all in all the phone is very fast and responsive so I wont complain too much,but will take some getting used to as I still love the original mytouch and it's lightweight design and the touch response seemed perfect.2 more complaints though is the slide out keyboard,not a smooth transition,feels kinda roughopening and makes a horrid noise,and the 4 row querty will take some getting used too,and the battery cover removal is assnine I can see it breaking easily.well thats all for now,will share more if I find anything intresting.
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My lord... your punctuation is terrible...
I am thinking of grabbing one this afternoon. I also have a pre-req of a physical keyboard, so being with T-Mobile has made me stick with my G1 for this long. My only gripe is the number keys do not have their own dedicated row like the G1, but I can probably get over that.
I also am just looking for a stable phone. With the G1's limited internal memory, I was left to rooting and hacking it up, and it's all getting on my nerves. I am ready for a solid working stock phone that also has a physical keyboard, and this looks to be the one to use. It even has a 3.5mm audio jack to boot!
Picked mine up today, as an early upgrade from my busted G1. SUCH a good call. It runs smoother than I ever expected, the browser blazes, and the only gripes I have are the weird bubble icons and the actual Faves app.
Also, much to my surprise, Flash is installed and working on the phone, though most of the video websites I use don't work. However, being able to see the full national geographic page load on a mobile device... well, let me tell you, it's refreshing. I can't wait 'til they release the Froyo update.
Might be a stupid question here, but does anyone know how to change the wallpaper for the lock screen? I feel like I've tried everything.
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Might be a stupid question here, but does anyone know how to change the wallpaper for the lock screen? I feel like I've tried everything.
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It's pretty simple, but you have to do it through myModes. Hit the menu button while you're on your home screen, then go into myModes. Select "Change your Mode" and while you're there, you have options to change your wallpaper and lock screen, as well as whatever else.
Good luck.
I was gunna pick it up today, but the lady on the phone told me if I hold out till the 26th i'll hit my 18 month period on my contract and it will drop $50 in price. Gunna wait till then, my G1 still works.
Thanks slobatch. I think that's about the one place on the entire phone that I hadnt remembered to look at until you mentioned it.
Just got mine. The Genius button works pretty well, but I've never used voice recog stuff ever since it's been around on phones, so not sure how much use it will get.
I do like it's speed. Just trying to get the feel for it currently, but so far I like it.
I've been about half and half on the voice recognition. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Really picky about some things
I use Dragon dictation for voice input, and for those of us to speak the Queen's English well, it works. Awesome!
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The Voice so far has not failed, its seriosuly has to be the best voice controlled app ive used. Its been dead on in calling, and hicupps a tiny bit for text...which is all ive used it for thus far.
Gripes?
The sides the the keyboard are edged, they really should have been rounded (I can see myself taking a dremel to it lol), it gives it a minor uncomfortable feeling, but Im also comming form a Cliq (its leaps and bounds from that phone) so my hands are prolly still "formed" to it.
The phone as mentioned before...is a beast...and he potential it has once its been rooted is going to be fantastic. Now if we can just get a dev to pry their eyes from their noobN1s (thats right mikey, im lookin at you ) and take a look at it. The bloatware and stuff isnt much concern to me, because it will be taken care of once its rooted.
What would set me nice till then is a docking station, and a slim gel case..other wise..to me, its the best android phone w/ a keyboard tmo has to offer.
I picked one up this morning and I am glad I did. They nearly sold out before I showed up (20 minutes after the store opened). Right now I am in the process of reloading my music and CoPilot software while my fiance is napping. She is beyond tired of me testing this phone out today haha!
Mini-Review:
So far it has been very swift and almost too responsive. The phone part of it is very well done and the "linking" structure to hook up your social networks to contacts is very intuitive. Faves....meh. It has potential but I'm not seeing it yet. There isn't too much "bloatware" that concerns me on this phone that I have run in to. The keyboard is GREAT but I can see the concern in regards to the alphanumeric section of the keyboard being confusing. You get over that after a few emails though. My only gripe at the moment is that the market has been really slow and wonky but the same thing happened when I bumped up to 1.6 and 2.1 with CM5 on the G1. The market should be smooth in the next day or so. I'm sure the influx of everyone redownloading their paid apps is not helping. Ok, sorry for the randomness but I just thought I would throw some thoughts out.
i have to agree about the faves, bloatware and the 'odd' keyboard lettering....i also experienced the market being slow though i must say, the 3G has been 'blazing' in nyc...using the speedtest.net app i've consistently hit speeds well over 2 meg!!!!!
8pen has just been released in the Market, I have just installed it and typing this with it, it is strange but I think it could be OK once I get used to it.
Its 99p in the market, I am going to try it for 24 hours and see how I get on with it!
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Thought I would post a YouTube video since I didn't explain it very well (took me long enough to type the above message ha ha)
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wow, i still don't understand after watching the video.
Surely everyone uses their thumbs to type so the videos all wrong.
In south Africa. No paid apps in the market. Downloaded mymarket. Can find 8pen but when I click install nothing happens. Mymarket works perfectly for free apps. I am willing to pay for 8pen. Any advice?
Wow that looks just terrible. Typing a single letter with that takes like 10 times more time compared to a qwerty keyboard. It might be less error prone when you get used to it but it's still slow as hell.
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In south Africa. No paid apps in the market...
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Suggest you email dev and he may allow you to purchase via PayPal and send you the app. Problem with that is you always have to check his official app site and remind him to email you any update released. I purchased a To Do app called DueToday like that, oh, and also Tasker in a similar manner. Sucks but what can we do?
BlindType looked so promising and I was waiting for it to get released. Then Google bought the company out! So you'll definitely most likely see BlindType as default keyboard on Gingerbread (Android 3.0)...conjecture...
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The same here, I think it will take a very long time to learn this. I use swype at the moment, but I will give it a try.
I will post my findings.
Thanks! They are not coping with their response so that wont happen soon.
I like the idea of an inputmethod that does not involve pressing small keys, but what about lanscape mode? i've got swype and it works great, and if i want to type even faster, i can just go to landscape mode, and i bet landscape mode isn't gonna be easy to use on the 8pen keyboard, which makes it difficult when typing long texts, i don't think this little program is going to have a promising future...
I am using it now and it is very difficult. Swype is much faster.
It is horrible, try it yourself!
I tried it and although I was excited about it at first, it's not a very pleasant experience. It takes too long to spell words and you have to learn a keyboard all over again. Layout could have been better I think. I am not fan of swype, but I think that is a much better experience. This is better than the WinMo6 small keyboards, but nothing compared to the keyboards found in any Android, WP7 and iOS device.
Tried it, wanted to like it, didn't like it.
Uninstalled and refunded.
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i have sweaty palm and i live in humid and hot climate. dragging finger across the screen is just nightmare for me any type of input similar to 8pen or swype never work since sweaty finger just create enough drag to really make the finger almost stuck. Normal input work much better.
Same principal as in "letter board" for people who lost their speech like stroke patients
20:50 First forum post using 8pen.
I have always struggled with a qwerty keyboard & I can't find swype on the android market.
perhaps I can get use to this.
I will see how it goes.
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I just got home from Best Buy where I played with their Xoom for about 20 minutes. Anytime I tried to use the keyboard (in the browser or just doing the google search on the home page), the keyboard only registered like 1/5 keystrokes I made. The line "just testing out this new xoom" would come out as "j tesgo t ewom" or something like that. I watched as I was typing and it looked like the keys were lighting up. Is this just a bad display unit or does the keyboard really suck this bad?
Let me put it this way, I am typing this on my xoom almost as fast as I can type on a computer. It does get laggy in the browser on more complex sites, but it shouldn't lead to that much mispelling. The keyboard is at least as good as the ipad in terms of speed.
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Best Buy has some crappy units on display for some reason. ANGRY BIRDS lagged when I used the one at Best Buy.
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i find the keyboard quite laggy. I am typing this post in the quick reply box and am running about 1-2 keystrokes behind. And this is with stock or Thumb keyboard.
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i find the keyboard quite laggy. I am typing this post in the quick reply box and am running about 1-2 keystrokes behind. And this is with stock or Thumb keyboard.
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The xda forum makes the browser lag like crazy, probably because of all the elements that are on the page at once. Use the xda app instead.
Not sure, but as far as my personal experience goes, every single floor unit of any device I've tried is always slower than the real thing. With the amount of abuse that the devices get, and in the case of Android the people messing with things that they don't know the reason for make everything laggy.
I remember using the Galaxy Tab at a T-mobile kiosk and having it run pretty smooth, then trying one in a Sprint store than absolutely lagged out and crashed several times. It really depends what people have been doing to them.
Let me also +1 the Xoom soft-keyboard- between the responsiveness and accuracy of the touchscreen, the size of the keys, and the medium autocorrect setting, what used to be a chore typing on soft keyboards has now made sending E-mails FAR easier (which my client certainly appreciates, as now I respond to E-mails coming thru in late at night or early AM much faster ).
I found that when I went to bestbuy the display unit was terrible because everyone installed apps and put a ton of widgets on the desktop. When I actually got my own xoom it was perfect and never had any issue browsing or using the keyboard. So I guess the point I am trying to make is that its more what people put on it then the unit itself and when you have tons of people messing with it a lot of things get screwed up.
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I found that when I went to bestbuy the display unit was terrible because everyone installed apps and put a ton of widgets on the desktop. When I actually got my own xoom it was perfect and never had any issue browsing or using the keyboard. So I guess the point I am trying to make is that its more what people put on it then the unit itself and when you have tons of people messing with it a lot of things get screwed up.
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The unit at the best buy I was at didn't have a google account tied to the device. You couldn't use the market, gmail or any google application. So nobody put extra apps or widgets on there. Maybe they messed with the settings? All I know is the keyboard was horrible. It would enter a couple letters, miss a couple letters. Half way through typing something it would auto-close the keyboard. Something must have been messed up, I guess. Otherwise I assume everybody would be complaining, which they aren't. I just wish I could have tested the device with the keyboard working correctly so I knew what to actual expect since I'm still on the fence between this and the ipad 2.
Sorry but its not the store unit's fault. This is something ive noticed and subsequently been annoyed with using my Xoom. Usually its while im using the keyboard in the browser window. It just cant keep up and misses keystrokes. It wouldnt be so bad if the keystrokes were just behind, but it lags enough where it doesnt even register some keystrokes. but like i said this is mainly in the browser. Plus for the person who mention Angry birds, i noticed this myself. Which is something thats alway bothered me about Non-Apple(dont shoot me im not a fanboy) hardware/software. If there was one thing i never experienced on my iphone/ipad it was subsequent slowdown while using apps and such. Everything was as quick the first time as it was the last time. Slowdown to me is a major nusiance becuase it seems to happen in intervals as apposed to consistantly. i hate that. Sometimes AB is smooth as silk other times its choppy, but i never know why or when.
I have noticed the lag too. Not on all sites but some especially XDA.I have seen many others complain about the same thing in other posts. Obviously an issue that needs to be corrected by Google in an update.
I have yet to see any lag playing Angry Birds.
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The unit at the best buy I was at didn't have a google account tied to the device. You couldn't use the market, gmail or any google application. So nobody put extra apps or widgets on there. Maybe they messed with the settings? All I know is the keyboard was horrible. It would enter a couple letters, miss a couple letters. Half way through typing something it would auto-close the keyboard. Something must have been messed up, I guess. Otherwise I assume everybody would be complaining, which they aren't. I just wish I could have tested the device with the keyboard working correctly so I knew what to actual expect since I'm still on the fence between this and the ipad 2.
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Interesting since the unit I messed with had a ton of stuff. The only time I have noticed some keyboard lag occasionally was in the web browser when on some intensive websites but other than that seems to be fine. As a note you could try out a different keyboard on it if they actually have a Google account such as swift key and see if that helps. Also id see if you can go to another store such as Verizon and test it out there since normally it works well without lag for me.
That is very strange, I played with my new xoom and it was quick on all apps except for SBM but it makes sense since its not optimized yet but as far as browser and keyboard I haven't experienced any lag yet. Side note Google body was very underwhelming.... more for children then Med students or anything past high school.
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I get no lag but I use voice to text a lot and that works great
I thought that I was the only one that noticed a little lag on the keyboard..... nothing I can't handle or that stopped me from buying the Xoom
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My problems with the keyboard are how it freezes up during a keystroke and the only way to stop it is to turn the Xoom all the way off. It can be a bit laggy, but it seems to depend more on the app being used vs the keyboard its self.
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My problems with the keyboard are how it freezes up during a keystroke and the only way to stop it is to turn the Xoom all the way off. It can be a bit laggy, but it seems to depend more on the app being used vs the keyboard its self.
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Ya it probably depends on if the app is optimized yet for honeycomb so the keyboard lag issue should be fixed when everything becomes more compatible.
... How long did it take you to feel like you'd made the right choice?
Right now the only thing I'm liking is the screen...
Scrolling in the browser seems choppier than my stock n900, and I'm missing the keyboard massively...
Really want to end up loving it, but all I can see right now are things that make me feel like it;s a massive step backwards...
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... How long did it take you to feel like you'd made the right choice?
Right now the only thing I'm liking is the screen...
Scrolling in the browser seems choppier than my stock n900, and I'm missing the keyboard massively...
Really want to end up loving it, but all I can see right now are things that make me feel like it;s a massive step backwards...
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Well...to be honest i don't know what to say - if you don't like it, you don't like it - you get used to it. Few year ago i was all about physical keyboards, but with introduction of the iPhone i realized it's time to let go. It took me some time but i finally got used to on-screen keyboards - and believe you me, there isn't a single on-screen keyboard that's better than the one on the Note ( the stock ICS / CM9 one, not the TouchWiz crap ).
About the scrolling...what ROM/Browser do you use ? I recommend CM9 with stock browser - super smooth "iphone-like" experience.
been there, done that. i got used to it really fast. the only thing that i'm really missing is the keyboard. i send a ton of text. but u get used to the virtual keyboard by time.
also, my note runs really smooth. i flashed a stock ICS and i'm running latest speedmod kernel.
I came from the n900 and it took a few weeks but you will get there. I missed the keyboard at first but when o use the n900 now I carnt use the hardware keybord , all I can say is stick with it you will grow to love the note and won't want to go to any other phone .
Bit i will say I'm cursed I had the dreaded USB port failure on my n900 several times and now had it on my note so be careful
But the n900 is the only phone I know to survive a 90mph tumble down the road and survive the note isn't as durable get a cover on that screen
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bletozavr said:
been there, done that. i got used to it really fast. the only thing that i'm really missing is the keyboard. i send a ton of text. but u get used to the virtual keyboard by time.
also, my note runs really smooth. i flashed a stock ICS and i'm running latest speedmod kernel.
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Reluctant to upgrade to ICS because I don't want to lose flash in the browser.. I've got used to the web in my pocket being the same as the web on my desktop..
mistman said:
I came from the n900 and it took a few weeks but you will get there. I missed the keyboard at first but when o use the n900 now I carnt use the hardware keybord , all I can say is stick with it you will grow to love the note and won't want to go to any other phone .
Bit i will say I'm cursed I had the dreaded USB port failure on my n900 several times and now had it on my note so be careful
But the n900 is the only phone I know to survive a 90mph tumble down the road and survive the note isn't as durable get a cover on that screen
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Yep, this was my second N900, the first one suffered the dodgy port, was fixed, then broke again, and so I got a brand new one last March. Was fine literally up until about a month ago at the end (luckily) of my holiday, when it wouldn;t switch on. Now if the battery runs out I have to reflash, and the power button does nothing, either when the phone is on off.. Ah well..
It's not so much the general typing, so much as ctrl-x,c,v, and cursor keys to edit text and scroll up/down dialog windows in browsers etc, but after a quick google it seems there's other keyboards with cursor function.
Ctrl+N for a new browser window, or contact was always well handy, and being able to start typing someone's name to bring up their details rather than having to press contacts first...
Also I can't figure out how to use keys to interact with flash in the browser...
Akiainavas said:
Well...to be honest i don't know what to say - if you don't like it, you don't like it - you get used to it. Few year ago i was all about physical keyboards, but with introduction of the iPhone i realized it's time to let go. It took me some time but i finally got used to on-screen keyboards - and believe you me, there isn't a single on-screen keyboard that's better than the one on the Note ( the stock ICS / CM9 one, not the TouchWiz crap ).
About the scrolling...what ROM/Browser do you use ? I recommend CM9 with stock browser - super smooth "iphone-like" experience.
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At the mo I'm on gingerbread and using the stock browser, literally just got the note today, but keen to delve right in once I'm sure I'll be keeping it. Was well at home in the terminal on the N900, power kernel, overclocking etc, but it all seemed a lot safer - I've seen a lot of threads about people accidentally bricking their Notes...
Just had a little play with some N64 roms, the increased screen size and speed are at least a couple of nice plusses so far...
Trying to find a PSX emulator, ideally free... Again, I think having the N900 spoiled me..
Tedri Mark said:
Reluctant to upgrade to ICS because I don't want to lose flash in the browser.. I've got used to the web in my pocket being the same as the web on my desktop..
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Flash works just fine on ICS. The only thing is that Chrome for Android doesn't support flash. The rest of them does.
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Flash works just fine on ICS. The only thing is that Chrome for Android doesn't support flash. The rest of them does.
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Ah, sweet, maybe I will do the upgrade then, although still a bit nervous as I've heard that even the official Samsung ICS release is not 100% safe?
Or have I just misinterpreted that?
Seems that although flash is working, it is maybe not working as well as under gingerbread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666913
I came from n900, the second best phone I got after my lovely Note of course!
Yes I did miss the hw keyboard but when I found swype option it was an OMG it is really rally fast for typing, in both case you need two hands, so it is not a problem in this case.
About the browser, on n900 was a real desktop browser with flash included, really great, never missed my laptop under this point of view. But, Note with ICS seems to be good too, didn't test enough but saw an option to turns it as a desktop browser, and we have here last flash version!
If we talk about battery life, n900 loses badly, Note is incredible with batt, longer last, whole working day with some fun included. I just charge my note once a day.
Well I don't remember what other things did like to me on n900, that means I don't miss it yeah!
Ohh the contact manager was better on n900, never had duplicates contacts, the synchronization with social networks was amazing. On Note, after many months with can't handle SNS sync properly, in fact my contact list is a mess
Hope it helps, regards mate!
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i came from an n900 as well.
its not too bad once you figure how to get things done.
i still prefer the hardware keyboard on the n900 though since i could feel the keys, so i could type without looking. but after a bit of practice with the note, i got a lot faster (to the point where my note lags, stutters and doubles up on letters). the only thing i'd prefer would be a slightly smaller screen for typing, so i'll probably get a smaller phone next time.
the only thing i really miss from the n900 is the integrated stand. that was useful for when you want to watch movies.
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Ah, sweet, maybe I will do the upgrade then, although still a bit nervous as I've heard that even the official Samsung ICS release is not 100% safe?
Or have I just misinterpreted that?
Seems that although flash is working, it is maybe not working as well as under gingerbread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666913
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Sure, flash isn't the smoothest and best thing on Android, but it runs and does the job. Stay away from the leaked kernels. ROM's that uses Xplodwild's kernel like CM9 and ParanoidAndroid are safe and won't have the brick bug.
Just read the OP and do some research before you flash anything.
Tedri Mark, if you owed a N900 before that means you like physical keyboard and your best choice after the Note would certainly be the Samsung Captivate Glide which has a 4inch screen and keyboard - some say it's a Galaxy S2 with a keyboard. It's better if you look for some reviews on youtube to get a better idea.
until 2011 n900 was the best phone ver made for me but new phones are really way better then that now. about the physical keyboard, i have phones without physical keyboard for 2 years and still missing it . screen keyboards are ok but not good as physical ones for me.
kromosto said:
screen keyboards are ok but not good as physical ones for me.
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Definitely, there is nothing better than a physical keyboard for typing! I missed that too.....if samsung could build a 4.5 or 4.8 inch screen phone with same same specs as the S2 + a physical keyboard, personally I'll sell my Note immediately! I emailed a lot daily and typing using a virtual keyboard is a pain when you are in a hurry with a lot of things to write!
Experimenting with browsers at the Mo, struggling to find one that renders the non mobile version of Facebook properly.. Both dolphin hd and ics browser + seem to struggle with the pop up gallery format... Quite annoying, and I'm not keen at all on the cut down versions and apps.
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well, what you aren't missing is the battery life. It was just ****ty on the N900, and the screensize, and the resolution.
that was a coincidence that you posted it. I have the exact same problem with my conversion from my n900 to a Galaxy Note.
I really really wanted to like the Galaxy Note (i am a linuxfanboy after all for over 12 years)but in all honesty, i don't. I was sad to see such a (in my eyes beautiful) device like the n900 be abandoned by nokia (but that's for another section i guess to QQ) It's not the size that turned me off or the device itself (i love the screensize!), but the way Android works for me. It's just feels cumbersome, sure it can do a LOT of things but most of these things it does "feel" slow at doing, and buggy...
Touchscreen typing in comparison to the N900 feels ... well nothing ofcourse, you don't feel anything at all... a physical keyboard still feels good and better than nothing. Though the onscreen keyboards of android are still way worse than the iPhone keyboard. But I can't get used to this typing. To be fair I think I type faster now on my SGN but that has probably got to do with the fact that I care less about my spelling and 'auto-correct' mistakes. I don't text/mail as much as i used to do only when it's necessary. I don't feel like picking up my SGN if i want to browse anything on the web, games (multitouch anyone?) scrolling is still slow and laggy. Moving around in android is something i do out of neccesity not because i wanted to explore things on my phone like the N900.
Multitasking is badly designed in my eyes on the Android if you set it next to Maemo (CTRL-BACKSPACE for instant satisfaction!). I don't like to push a button for 2 seconds; scroll for the right app and click on the touchscreen and then go to that application; that must be instantaneous to make it really multitasking ready. Clicking the homescreen button; selecting the app on my homescreen feels faster even...).
I try to run the most bleeding edge ICS builds and tirelessly try to convince people (iPhone and Windows)it is better in giving a versatile phone experience(i used the nightlies from CM9) but when they show up with their ****ty iPhones and casually just look up some site and i try to look up the same site. The iPhone is always faster in getting to that specific site; more fluid in scrolling, doesn't fail at sites where it really shouldn't fail (gecko)("never happened before...wait don't go, it's still loading... almost there.. i think"). At the end my friends and i can only look at long youtube movies on my SGN("woah dude your big screen is soo nice! "oops huh did i just turn your SGN off when i hold it in landscape???") but anything other than that, iPhones and even windows phones now gets it done faster and more simple, responsive, less buggy. A year ago when i had the N900, i could look at everything without any of these problems... no mistyping... no workarounds with different browsers...
Cut copy paste... what a joke in comparison to the N900. i'm not even gonna start on that one. Try setting up some commands from the cli on your SGN... pfff (nevermind that %#FG)
Sometimes i'm thinking people are less critical about their phone experience because you only have 3 real choices atm for the newest hardware. android;iOS;winmango. Nokia DNR'd the N900 and their Maemo continuation which was a bad thing but it was a good product and i can't find any of the big companies making something that would remotely resemble the N900. Critical people here, please tell me i'm wrong, i would love to be wrong on this issue.
I'm sad, really sad, that my experience in getting a new (geeky) phone would be great but it's just not. The next level-up for me(android) rolled out a +4 on charisma but i needed the +dexterity and/or +intelligence
Mate, I don´t know if you just ordered a corrupted device...and of course I accept your experiences! But in most parts, I can´t share your points...
Thanathos_78 said:
It's just feels cumbersome, sure it can do a LOT of things but most of these things it does "feel" slow at doing, and buggy...
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Have you ever updated your device? Are you on ICS? And, as we are on XDA here, did you try out some custom Roms? e.g. RocketRom & speedmodkernel?`I had the N900 as well...and dude, if the Note is slow & buggy...the N900 is mordors very darkest ork-hole^^
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Touchscreen typing in comparison to the N900 feels ... well nothing ofcourse, you don't feel anything at all... a physical keyboard still feels good and better than nothing. Though the onscreen keyboards of android are still way worse than the iPhone keyboard.
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Which ones did you try out? There are some damn good KB for everyones taste, I´m sure with that...
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I don't feel like picking up my SGN if i want to browse anything on the web, games (multitouch anyone?) scrolling is still slow and laggy.
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Again, made some updates etc? At least MY Note is responsive as hell, VERY fast, scrolling is smooth like butter...and especially browsing is the very best experience I ever had on a smartphone (and man, I had them all )
Came from N900.
But I beta-tested the SGS and DeZire... so got accustomed to Android eventually.
There's somethings you can't do easily or at all. It takes alot of fiddling to get it "right".
But eventually you make it yours. And thanks to a really large ecosystem and other great features... it becomes hard to use the N900 again.
I wouldn't pick the DesireZ over the N900... but with the beast (aka n7k) I feel like its a worthy successor. Just need to pray that Android 4.1 Jelly Bean will use the Mainline kernel (3.5) and that it can be further "unlocked" by having deeper API's etc. One project to keep an eye on is the Necesitas, where they're trying to port the Qt (4/5) framework into Android... it would definitely "linux-ify" Android further. Or even the AML project, merging the mainline and Android kernels together.
I've had my Note for a month, and have reached the point where I would never want to go back to the N900 hardware keyboard. I suggest to learn swype, or try a few of the alternative keyboards. But even the stock Samsung onscreen keyboard is quite good - it saves a lot of time having the numeric keys always available.
The one thing I still miss is the N900's "mappero" mapping app (previously called Maemo Mapper). I've tried all of the available open source Android mapping apps, and they either have a deficient feature set, or they are buggy.
With a new platform, you always notice first the things that are missing compared to your old platform. Only later do you notice the things that are better. And so it is with the mapping app. Having discovered Osmand with its very efficient offline vector maps, I would miss those if I went back to mappero with its raster-only offline maps.
The hardware itself is everything that the N9x0 should have become.
ryebuck said:
I've had my Note for a month, and have reached the point where I would never want to go back to the N900 hardware keyboard.
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Nowadays, physical keyboards are not a necessity for most of us since typing on a large screen like the Note is even easier. Thing is writting long emails or typing documents on a phone will always required a physical keyboard because this makes things easier to type at a constant speed with less or no mistakes than pressing virtual buttons on the screen.
If HTC or SAMSUNG could make a tilted screen phone with a physical keyboard similar to the 'HTC TOUCH PRO 2' or 'HTC Tilt 2' with a 4.7-5.0 screen, I'm pretty certain that many of us will shift to this phone.
Typing on galaxy note is awesome with Swype, the only thing is you should get used to it, the other big thing is spellings, since Swype will respond faster if you type correct spellings, for me it works like a breeze, for now with just Weeks into my note I'm deeply in love with this device as i surf the Web using wifi,i don't even open my laptop, the screen is just awesome not to mention the spen, I'm typing this using Swype,
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