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New text input system (beyond t9)

I would really like this one:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html
Really really nice

http://www.swypeinc.com/index.html << here is the product website

This is awesome. I'm looking forward to test it.

Really nice idea

This is just awesome, i can't see it working in theory, but in reality it does, it's great.
He convinced me with Mississipi

great idea. i haven't seen the video just read the text and seen the picture. it seems it is more for one handed use, because you have to hold down your finger until the word is completed. I personally use both hands/thumbs on my hardware and software keyboard (mississippi took me 6 taps to get the word with TouchPal, now unless swype can beat those taps it won't improve only degrade my productivity)...I'd still give it a try though it seems cool.

Swype uses one 'tap' for Mississippi.
Watch the video.

Looks Awesome!
This looks AWESOME! I signed up for the beta and received an e-mail telling me they will let me know when the beta is available.

one word - WOW

This looks simply AMAZING. I can't wait to give this a go, as I've yet to be too impressed with ANY other input method over the years; although there's been some great ones. If swype works as promised, I reckon this could be the 'be all, end all' input method.
good info, thanks.

Wow I can´t wait to test it!

this will be intresting for both my diamond and touch screen laptop

man, this is unbelievable. considering most of the time is wasted on finding the right letters on the virtual keyboard when/when-not using a pen, this will be amazing even for touch usage.
i'm mind blown. gotta get this

Interesting to note that someone else has had a go at this already:
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/
But definitely this keyboard looks better

It surely looks nice, and with a stylus it will rock, but don;t you think the friction will be a little too much for thumb writing?

I've seen the video on this programme (I think it's an interview by CNET). You sure can swipe around the keyboard fast.... but you need the engine to come up with the list of predicted words for you to select. If that can't be improved, while you will have an easier time to just 'swipe' your finger around, you may not be able to input your text a lot faster. You may end up spending more time waiting for the list to appear and select the desired words.

this is awesome but I feel strange..I think its impossible using swap the letters can appear exactly as we want..I mean when we want to write
"allready" how can we swipe over from a to l and how bout double l? hard to use i think

theme freak said:
this is awesome but I feel strange..I think its impossible using swap the letters can appear exactly as we want..I mean when we want to write
"allready" how can we swipe over from a to l and how bout double l? hard to use i think
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firstly.. its "already" one l..
but I read on CNET that it is actually really easy:
"Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter)."
the only disappointing thing is that in the video, the portion that is actually on a WM device, the keyboard appears sluggish and there is a delay when entering words. hopefully thatll be improved!
here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html

htctoucher said:
firstly.. its "already" one l..
but I read on CNET that it is actually really easy:
"Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter)."
the only disappointing thing is that in the video, the portion that is actually on a WM device, the keyboard appears sluggish and there is a delay when entering words. hopefully thatll be improved!
here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html
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i'm sure we can worry about the delay think when we get to the "using the keyboard" bridge... and give feedback, just like with any other app.

htctoucher said:
firstly.. its "already" one l..
but I read on CNET that it is actually really easy:
"Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter)."
the only disappointing thing is that in the video, the portion that is actually on a WM device, the keyboard appears sluggish and there is a delay when entering words. hopefully thatll be improved!
here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html
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lol well the point is if we want to entered double or even tripled words can it be done? example I want to think "emmmmm....I'll see it later"
will be really hard to accomplish using this keyboard hehe especially for people who like to express their feelings with strange words

If you were disappointed once, do you come back again?

Ok my fellow nexus one lovers... I had a Nexus one for about a month, and upon first opening the phone, there was dust, so I immediately got a replacement. I thought it was cool that next day when I show up at work, they had sent me my replacement so I was quite suprised on the service. Anyways, the phone was great, loved every aspect EXCEPT when texting, it wouldn't register my delete, and instead, a stupid smiley... in a way, I was getting pissed cause google was "smiling" at me when I was trying to do something else.
So my question is, I really want to go back, or wait for the HD2, but I feel the nexus is a better fit, especially when I use almost all the google features... but the texting/screen issue is a factor... I know people all over have this issue, and there isn't a resolution yet (that I've found) so what do I do? Wait? Suck it up and get it again? What are your suggestions???
FREE ME FROM MY BLACKBERRY!!!!!!!!!

Cheeze[iT] said:
Ok my fellow nexus one lovers... I had a Nexus one for about a month, and upon first opening the phone, there was dust, so I immediately got a replacement. I thought it was cool that next day when I show up at work, they had sent me my replacement so I was quite suprised on the service. Anyways, the phone was great, loved every aspect EXCEPT when texting, it wouldn't register my delete, and instead, a stupid smiley... in a way, I was getting pissed cause google was "smiling" at me when I was trying to do something else.
So my question is, I really want to go back, or wait for the HD2, but I feel the nexus is a better fit, especially when I use almost all the google features... but the texting/screen issue is a factor... I know people all over have this issue, and there isn't a resolution yet (that I've found) so what do I do? Wait? Suck it up and get it again? What are your suggestions???
FREE ME FROM MY BLACKBERRY!!!!!!!!!
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It took me 3 phones to get all my issues fixed. If you're worried about fast customer service, get a phone that is supported directly by a carrier (Mytouch3g, droid, etc).
I have a good friend who just got a droid after being a huge crackberry fan. He loves it.
The nexus one is a pilot program so there will be growing pains to endure.
In terms of the touch issues watch your other fingers around the edge of the touch screen. I notice whenever my screen goes wonky a finger that shouldn't be touching the screen is.
Keep in mind you can get other keyboards than the stock that are agruably better anyway.
Good luck and thanks for supporting Android.

Didnt realize you were talking about screen issues, since using Cyanogen I havent expierenced them, but I dont know if they've been fixed for regular users.

hmm I didn't pay any attention to it after I rooted/flashed cyanogen... guess I'm going to have to think about this one a little bit. but overall I loved it. Do you guys think it will be fixed.... someday?

Well its an issue that theyve been made well aware of on their support forums so I would assume theyre working on a solution, I dont know why they wouldnt be.

just curious, but are you using the stock keyboard?

No, im using better keyboard right now and use smart keyboard and swype from time to time, just like to mix things up every once in a while, I type so fast on this thing now that smart keyboard and better keyboard have pretty much made swype useless to me. Smart Keyboard is free in the market and Better Keyboard is like 2 bucks and is pretty similar but is theme-able which I like. I also dont use auto correct or suggestions or any of that stuff so I dont know how they work for those.

JoshHart said:
No, im using better keyboard right now and use smart keyboard and swype from time to time, just like to mix things up every once in a while, I type so fast on this thing now that smart keyboard and better keyboard have pretty much made swype useless to me. Smart Keyboard is free in the market and Better Keyboard is like 2 bucks and is pretty similar but is theme-able which I like. I also dont use auto correct or suggestions or any of that stuff so I dont know how they work for those.
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Smart Keyboard and Better Keyboard are really just the stock keyboard with minor differences and more customization (but nothing innovational), if you really want to enjoy your typing experience - I suggest installing the HTC_IME, the typing creation cooked up by HTC for their Sense UI phones.
Nothing really beats it, I don't see how anything could. Swype though, is lovely.

I still feel like I type faster on smart or better keyboard, it could be I just havent gotten used to HTC IME yet, i used it all the time on my mytouch but ive just gotten so use to these keyboards that I dont even have to look to type, like typing this whole thing for example. I guess in the end its all just personal preference.

whats the "htc ime" ? link? seems interesting

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416

Impressions of 8pen by a Swyper

i was told of 8pen the day before its release and, after watching the video on their website, i was blown away by the concept. it was truly a novel idea, with noble, far-reaching goals. however, i think it may have bitten off more than it could chew. here are my thoughts after using it quite exclusively over the last few days...
i'm a heavy swype user, so i thought it'd be easier for me to pick up 8pen's interface. well, i used it since its release and found that it almost was as fast as swype, but never able to surpass it in speed. the fact that the thumb hides the letters threw me off quite a bit. i'd get lost finding 'b'. not only that, "typing" out unknown words was quite a bit of a hassle.
however, it wasn't completely doom and gloom. being a bit of a stickler with spelling and grammar, 8pen forced me to focus on proper spelling, which is a plus in my book. also, the word prediction is topnotch. the interface is definitely intuitive and a novel concept.
in short, i just think it's too much of a drastic jump from qwerty-based keyboards to be accepted widely. i'm keeping 8pen installed, and use it from time to time for fun (yes, i'm weird like that). however, to whip one out quickly, i just go to swype. i can't wait to see 8pen updated or modified slightly. i personally think it has an amazing potential at being the next mobile keyboard interface design. it's clean, intuitive, and different. anytime a developer thinks outside the box, it's to be commended. 8pen is just that, an outside-the-box idea that needs some polish, but has the ability to be the next big thing in mobile software.
just my 2 cents.

Use ultra keyboard it does swype with a compact keyboard at the same time , talk about speed thats the fastest I have ever been on a keyboard.
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I like 8pen in a sick strange way..
8pen from my supersonic yea....

david279 said:
I like 8pen in a sick strange way..
8pen from my supersonic yea....
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how does it compare to swype (or your previous keyboard preference) for you, in terms of speed?

shift_ said:
how does it compare to swype (or your previous keyboard preference) for you, in terms of speed?
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never used swype

I like 8pen, but I am much faster swyping... 8pen stays in my phone for texting and driving though

i like the idea. we really need a new text input UI. the very fact that we are still using qwerty is kinda sad.
i look forward to more ideas like this.

shift_ said:
how does it compare to swype (or your previous keyboard preference) for you, in terms of speed?
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for me its a hell of a lot slower...swype for me is the fastest keyboard but im not that great with it, tons of mistakes.

ms79723 said:
for me its a hell of a lot slower...swype for me is the fastest keyboard but im not that great with it, tons of mistakes.
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8pen is theoretically faster since there are ~26 letter + few more gestures to remember. You have to watch watch your screen when using swype.
I've been practicing 8pen

jerryparid said:
8pen is theoretically faster since there are ~26 letter + few more gestures to remember. You have to watch watch your screen when using swype.
I've been practicing 8pen
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True statement. I just dont have the patience right now to memorize the placement of letters.

Its like learning how to right in a new way. Its interesting.
8pen from my supersonic yea....

Memorization is everything. If I had been using 8 pen since I was 6 years old like the qwerty layout then I am sure I would be incredibly fast on it. I type around [email protected]% accuracy on full size qwerty keyboards including symbols and numbers. I wish i had the time to memorize 8pen, that would be insanely fast for mobile if I could actually train myself to know where all the char's are without thinking like on qwerty. I literally type faster than I can spell words out in my head

jerryparid said:
8pen is theoretically faster since there are ~26 letter + few more gestures to remember. You have to watch watch your screen when using swype.
I've been practicing 8pen
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How? You could complete a 3-4 letter word in Swype within the same amount of motion that it'd possibly require to do a single letter in 8pen.
I personally just use Smart Keyboard Pro (reg. QWERTY multi-touch).

It's simply too slow for daily use and I don't have time to learn it. I prefer either swype or the droid x kb.
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I think when you use it when you want type everything, it going faster from Day to Day ......
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I saw 8pen, but it costs money so I didn't bother. I'm happy with SwiftKey keyboard predicting my entire sentence. It's not necessarily faster than Swype, but I like not having to type each word.
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I enjoy it been using it since it came out
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The jury is still out for me. That being said; the 24 hour period from the market is too short to evaluate this keyboard IMO.
Sent on the go from my HTC EVO

I used it for about a day, and uninstalled it. I got the same impression as when I tried one of those non-qwerty keyboards for the first time, you know the ones where all of the letters are in different places, so its supposedly easier to hit the more common letters. Definitely innovative, and it will make things easier for some people, and allow them to type faster and more accurately. And for that subset of people, it really is a great product. But it will never catch on with the mainstream smartphone user who doesn't have the patience to relearn how to type.
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Shauli20 said:
I saw 8pen, but it costs money so I didn't bother. I'm happy with SwiftKey keyboard predicting my entire sentence. It's not necessarily faster than Swype, but I like not having to type each word.
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U broke? It's only like 2bucks
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Google Market - Tablet Apps

I opened up market today, hit the tablet section, and I was so excited as a ton of apps showed up. but, then i realized that the same 20 apps just kept repeating.
Any one else see that?

Ha yes....same with me. I had checked earlier so when I checked this afternoon and saw tons I was very excited. That is, until I looked closer
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I see the same thing but at least there's 4 more apps on the list!

What a sick, sick joke, Google.
It just keeps scrolling ad infinitum!

It'll pick up soon enough. A lot of apps already on the market, even though they should work fine on honeycomb, will have things like "android.hardware.telephony" features enabled, which will by default hide it in the market from honeycomb tablets (which lack telephony). It's a shame that the devices were released so soon after the Honeycomb API was released, but give the devs a week or so to test and tweak and a lot more should pop up once the they've amended their manifests. I quite like how Android is the complete opposite to Apple when it comes to launches, but I can see how it could be annoying .

There's definitely a few new apps in that list, trust me
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it just got updated with a list of feature. limited atm, but it's growing

It was a glitch and quickly patched. However, I had that glitch a few days go, not today.
Google is tweaking the Market app almost everyday it appears.

Spare parts question
I have a Tab and I use an app called Spare Parts that resizes (scales) phone apps to work on the Tab. Have you tried it on the Xoom?

For me the list was at least 40% longer. I installed like 7 or 8 new things. I am tempted to try the updated Thumbit Keyboard, but I am unsure. I am cheap and even 2$ would be terrible to waste.

that keyboard is awesome. You shouldn't regret it.

Tell me if anyone else notices this. Whenever you are searching apps in the market and click on an app, and then you go back it puts you all the way back up to the very top of the app list forcing you to start all the way from the beginning all over again! When you hit back it should bring you back to where you left off instead of starting all over at the top of the list. And it does it every single time too! Its annoying! Especially when you are just looking around at apps to download, you might get very far down on the list and then... BAM! You will have to start over when you click an app to view more info about it. Who feels the pain on that? This needs a fix ASAP!
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setite said:
For me the list was at least 40% longer. I installed like 7 or 8 new things. I am tempted to try the updated Thumbit Keyboard, but I am unsure. I am cheap and even 2$ would be terrible to waste.
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I went and bought it. It's really just like $1.67 but I figured it would hold me over till SwiftKey released their tablet version (it's in BETA currently).
...this is actually really nice. Glad I found it, very easy vs. the default keyboard. It has a settings option for what screen size you have, just pick 10in and it adjusts accordingly...very happy with my purchase.

tlogank said:
I went and bought it. It's really just like $1.67 but I figured it would hold me over till SwiftKey released their tablet version (it's in BETA currently).
...this is actually really nice. Glad I found it, very easy vs. the default keyboard. It has a settings option for what screen size you have, just pick 10in and it adjusts accordingly...very happy with my purchase.
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I bought it too. It gets the job done. I find that it seems to repeat my letters alot so I have to type at a steady pace. We'll see how it works out. I feel like it's designed for smaller fingers/hands than mine.

I am a swiftkey guy so I can't wait until they release it

I bought Thumbit too. I like having multiple keyboards to choose from. Sometimes, I'm at table and the stock keyboard works well. Sometimes, I'm holding it in one hand with a stylus in the other and the slideIt keyboard works well. i use thumbit if i'm sitting on the couch holding it in two hands. All worth it.
I am waiting for swype though.
My biggest problem with non-stock keyboards is that the windows doesn't show the rest of the page, but rather an input window of sorts. That is, if i'm entering information on a webpage, using the stock keyboard, I can still see the rest of the page and navigate around it, but using anything else, I can't./

lanternca said:
I bought Thumbit too. I like having multiple keyboards to choose from. Sometimes, I'm at table and the stock keyboard works well. Sometimes, I'm holding it in one hand with a stylus in the other and the slideIt keyboard works well. i use thumbit if i'm sitting on the couch holding it in two hands. All worth it.
I am waiting for swype though.
My biggest problem with non-stock keyboards is that the windows doesn't show the rest of the page, but rather an input window of sorts. That is, if i'm entering information on a webpage, using the stock keyboard, I can still see the rest of the page and navigate around it, but using anything else, I can't./
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On Thumb keyboard, click settings and disable fullscreen view

I see 32 apps none repeated.

Woke up to 11 new apps in the Tablet section of the market this morning.
Oddly enough, I feel like a couple of them don't belong there yet.
Evernote, which actually isn't tablet optimized (small icons, no multiple fragments for easier navigation, etc), but works.
and Bonsai Blast, which also works but looks like crap because it's just stretched and not in HD for the tablet.

Here's the new ICS keyboard.

Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7

Once you've had swype you don't ever go back

straxusii said:
Once you've had swype you don't ever go back
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BS. Never liked swype and don't use it. The version on the Epic Touch is buggy and slow.

rockky said:
Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
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Thanks for sharing. But, I can't find voice recognize. Any idea?

linzgeneral said:
BS. Never liked swype and don't use it. The version on the Epic Touch is buggy and slow.
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Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.

straxusii said:
Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Yea. I used swype on my HD2.
I mean I could go back, but Swype is so much quicker and easier.
I like Swype!

I've tried Swype a few times but I can't get the feel of it at all so never use it. Trying the ics keyboard now and finding it's a bit better at auto correcting spaces which is handy.

Swype rules.

S-pen toggle ICS keyboard
love this ICS keyboard layout (having such a small space bar on others just pisses me off), but is there any way to add the Pen input for it on the SGN? kinda defeats the purpose of it on this handset if you can't use it.

straxusii said:
Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Swype is by far the best. It's so easy and simple and forgiving. I barely even hit my intended letters and it almost always knows what I'm typing. The idea of taping out messages or emails seems archaic now. Especially with the s-pen....it's just such an effortless pleasure.
Takes a day, max. That being said, is love to be able to use Swype on the ics keyboard.
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rockky said:
Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
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Thanks
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I tried the keyboad but have no comment as of now. Why? Because it still lags just like the previous other keyboards I've tried, if your a fast texter like myself the phone is slow & cannot catch up which leads to mistakes in EVERY word I write, it's a nightmare...
I hope they fix this issue in the next update.
Currently using ''smart keyboard pro'' which I think is one of the BEST keyboards, also being VERY customizable & comes with several great skins, all of which are great in their own way, even the colours you can change...
I think the note will be FAR superior once it gets the ice cream update and will be even smoother and faster than what it already is.

I found it initially lagged but after turning off most of the features it works OK now aside from occasional lags which I assume is due to some other application slowing it down. Its auto correct can be intermittent but I have it turned down as I don't want it too aggressive