New text input system (beyond t9) - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I would really like this one:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html
Really really nice

http://www.swypeinc.com/index.html << here is the product website

This is awesome. I'm looking forward to test it.

Really nice idea

This is just awesome, i can't see it working in theory, but in reality it does, it's great.
He convinced me with Mississipi

great idea. i haven't seen the video just read the text and seen the picture. it seems it is more for one handed use, because you have to hold down your finger until the word is completed. I personally use both hands/thumbs on my hardware and software keyboard (mississippi took me 6 taps to get the word with TouchPal, now unless swype can beat those taps it won't improve only degrade my productivity)...I'd still give it a try though it seems cool.

Swype uses one 'tap' for Mississippi.
Watch the video.

Looks Awesome!
This looks AWESOME! I signed up for the beta and received an e-mail telling me they will let me know when the beta is available.

one word - WOW

This looks simply AMAZING. I can't wait to give this a go, as I've yet to be too impressed with ANY other input method over the years; although there's been some great ones. If swype works as promised, I reckon this could be the 'be all, end all' input method.
good info, thanks.

Wow I canĀ“t wait to test it!

this will be intresting for both my diamond and touch screen laptop

man, this is unbelievable. considering most of the time is wasted on finding the right letters on the virtual keyboard when/when-not using a pen, this will be amazing even for touch usage.
i'm mind blown. gotta get this

Interesting to note that someone else has had a go at this already:
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/
But definitely this keyboard looks better

It surely looks nice, and with a stylus it will rock, but don;t you think the friction will be a little too much for thumb writing?

I've seen the video on this programme (I think it's an interview by CNET). You sure can swipe around the keyboard fast.... but you need the engine to come up with the list of predicted words for you to select. If that can't be improved, while you will have an easier time to just 'swipe' your finger around, you may not be able to input your text a lot faster. You may end up spending more time waiting for the list to appear and select the desired words.

this is awesome but I feel strange..I think its impossible using swap the letters can appear exactly as we want..I mean when we want to write
"allready" how can we swipe over from a to l and how bout double l? hard to use i think

theme freak said:
this is awesome but I feel strange..I think its impossible using swap the letters can appear exactly as we want..I mean when we want to write
"allready" how can we swipe over from a to l and how bout double l? hard to use i think
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firstly.. its "already" one l..
but I read on CNET that it is actually really easy:
"Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter)."
the only disappointing thing is that in the video, the portion that is actually on a WM device, the keyboard appears sluggish and there is a delay when entering words. hopefully thatll be improved!
here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html

htctoucher said:
firstly.. its "already" one l..
but I read on CNET that it is actually really easy:
"Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter)."
the only disappointing thing is that in the video, the portion that is actually on a WM device, the keyboard appears sluggish and there is a delay when entering words. hopefully thatll be improved!
here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html
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i'm sure we can worry about the delay think when we get to the "using the keyboard" bridge... and give feedback, just like with any other app.

htctoucher said:
firstly.. its "already" one l..
but I read on CNET that it is actually really easy:
"Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter)."
the only disappointing thing is that in the video, the portion that is actually on a WM device, the keyboard appears sluggish and there is a delay when entering words. hopefully thatll be improved!
here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10037202-1.html
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lol well the point is if we want to entered double or even tripled words can it be done? example I want to think "emmmmm....I'll see it later"
will be really hard to accomplish using this keyboard hehe especially for people who like to express their feelings with strange words

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Froyo HTC Sense keyboard supports multitouch!

I just noticed this and haven't seen another thread mentioning it yet. I am really able to fly now!
Oh wow, yeah I tried it and it is very fast now.
Definitely makes it the most desirable touch typing keyboard for me, but I don't know if I can pass up the one hand typing of swype...auto correct is definitely better with the htc though.
This... excites me!
What exactly should I be seeing, I'm not really noticing a difference.
Since my Droid X keyboard is gone, I am using Swype again (on 2.2).
Yup, just confirmed it works.
If you can't notice a difference, just do the simple HAHAHAHHA test.
Type hahahhahaha really fast on your keyboard. on 2.1 it would come out aaaahhhhhhhhhhahaa. I know this sounds silly but trust me, people who are extremely fast at typing like me notice a huge difference. Letters don't get cut off now
sk63 said:
What exactly should I be seeing, I'm not really noticing a different.
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You can press down more than one key at a time. In the past you had to be careful to lift up your thumb before hitting the next letter or it wouldn't register.
mhoepfin said:
You can press down more than one key at a time. In the past you had to be careful to lift up your thumb before hitting the next letter or it wouldn't register.
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Okay, I do have it, I think I was just testing it wrong and giving credit to JIT and a hacked kernel for just being more responsive. Now that you and others mention it, I can notice the difference.
zeuzinn said:
Yup, just confirmed it works.
If you can't notice a difference, just do the simple HAHAHAHHA test.
Type hahahhahaha really fast on your keyboard. on 2.1 it would come out aaaahhhhhhhhhhahaa. I know this sounds silly but trust me, people who are extremely fast at typing like me notice a huge difference. Letters don't get cut off now
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i can do the ahahahah test and it just came fine, im using 2.1. any other way to test multitouch?
So, naturally, the shift + r would cap it right?
Wish this was here prior, have already gotten used to it.
I notice what you're saying with the hahaha, but I think its due to the faster Rom with better responsivness. Because you still can't use shift plus a key to capitalize a letter.
blix1337 said:
I notice what you're saying with the hahaha, but I think its due to the faster Rom with better responsivness. Because you still can't use shift plus a key to capitalize a letter.
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No, it's because of multitouch. Touch the A with one finger, then, while still holding down A, touch the H with another finger. Dont hold it down for too long or else it will show you the list of special characters and won't work.
Notice that, even with your finger on A, it still outputs H as soon as you touch it with your other finger. That's multitouch. On 2.1 the H would not register unless you lifted your finger from A and then touched H.

Teach Swype...

On every version of swype I've ever used you could teach swype words AND ADD THEM TO YOUR DICTIONARY. I really dislike not being able to do this now. I know they say type a word and swype learns it... This SORTA seems to work, but if I keep typing "god" and "asp" when trying to say "good" and "app", I'm going to freak out.
Anyone have some tips for this?
I desperately miss the long pressing of a word to add it to my dictionary.
PS: I manually typed in pressing (twice)... This is what swype returns for me now that it "has been taught"... 3 attempts
Putting... Pursuing... Pursuing (not pressing)
Help!
O, and I love swype, do not recommend another kb. I've tried many and that is not the intent of this thread. Thank you!
Have you tried watching the video on hopping? It's really an interesting concept, and ever since I started to use it my typing has become a lot quicker. If you visit the swype site you can find it under their tips videos.
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I remember reading a way to delete words from the dictionary but I forgot how. I know occasionally I'll swype a word and it will throw in a some jibber jabber that doesn't even look like a real word, at least not one I would use.i need to see if I can find again how to delete words from swypes dictionary. Also in setting you can change the accuracy vs speed. I haver never messed with it, mine is still at factory settings but you might try it.
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Just watched it, thanks. Here is my attempt at 3 problem words after watching:
app
god
pressing
Certainly better, not perfect.
You can teach swype new words its in the training video that comes with it. Shows you how to add new words.
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If you want to type a word like good. You must do a loop on the o.
Like g -> o -> loop around on o -> d
To add a word, type word in, hit space.
Works perfectly for me.
I'm not ignorant to swype, and like I said regardless how many times I swype good, it turns out God.
s15274n said:
I'm not ignorant to swype, and like I said regardless how many times I swype good, it turns out God.
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umad?
It works fine on the 4 Vibrant's I have played with so either your screen is broke, you are having a very odd software issue, or you don't know what you're doing.
Good. Goya. God. God. Good. God. God. Good.good god god god god god
the user is not the issue okay. I've seen others with similar posts as well.
I will say it is much easier, and more accurate with my case off. It tends to block my finger from reaching the edge of the screen.
I see this as well. In addition, wevery time I try to swype the weird want, I get wasn't. Very annoying.
good god good hippos god good good good good wasn't wasn't want want wasn't
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Typos, incorrect words, gibberish, and other nonsense brought to you courtesy of Swype.
On my vibrant using swype. Good good good goo goo parallelogram. My trick to double letters is to wiggle up and down on the double letters for problem words. So on good I move my thumb from the bottom of the grey box near the top, then back down. Got it? God. Lol...that's the first "god" I got whole typing this. Good good good good god god good. Yeah don't circle, wiggle. Side to side works as well, just not as effectively I find.
I notice my gf doesn't swype entirely accurately because she isn't 100% accurate with her fingertip placement. So when trying to do the swirl around a double letter as in "good," problems arise.
Good good good good good good good good good good good good good good
Weird weird series weird series weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird
Looks like user error to me...
ender2492 said:
Have you tried watching the video on hopping? It's really an interesting concept, and ever since I started to use it my typing has become a lot quicker.
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Thanks for that. I didn't know that. One video at http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-hop-swype-for-harder-recognize-words-376627/
ram100987 said:
I remember reading a way to delete words from the dictionary but I forgot how.
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You type the word you want to delete. Double tap it to select it. Hit the Swype button. You will get a prompt asking whether you want to delete the word.
If you want to just correct the word, double tap it and select from the popup of alternative words.

8pen Keyboard - Out now

8pen has just been released in the Market, I have just installed it and typing this with it, it is strange but I think it could be OK once I get used to it.
Its 99p in the market, I am going to try it for 24 hours and see how I get on with it!
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Thought I would post a YouTube video since I didn't explain it very well (took me long enough to type the above message ha ha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3OuCR0EpGo
wow, i still don't understand after watching the video.
Surely everyone uses their thumbs to type so the videos all wrong.
In south Africa. No paid apps in the market. Downloaded mymarket. Can find 8pen but when I click install nothing happens. Mymarket works perfectly for free apps. I am willing to pay for 8pen. Any advice?
Wow that looks just terrible. Typing a single letter with that takes like 10 times more time compared to a qwerty keyboard. It might be less error prone when you get used to it but it's still slow as hell.
silbi30 said:
In south Africa. No paid apps in the market...
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Suggest you email dev and he may allow you to purchase via PayPal and send you the app. Problem with that is you always have to check his official app site and remind him to email you any update released. I purchased a To Do app called DueToday like that, oh, and also Tasker in a similar manner. Sucks but what can we do?
BlindType looked so promising and I was waiting for it to get released. Then Google bought the company out! So you'll definitely most likely see BlindType as default keyboard on Gingerbread (Android 3.0)...conjecture...
bradputt said:
wow, i still don't understand after watching the video.
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The same here, I think it will take a very long time to learn this. I use swype at the moment, but I will give it a try.
I will post my findings.
Thanks! They are not coping with their response so that wont happen soon.
I like the idea of an inputmethod that does not involve pressing small keys, but what about lanscape mode? i've got swype and it works great, and if i want to type even faster, i can just go to landscape mode, and i bet landscape mode isn't gonna be easy to use on the 8pen keyboard, which makes it difficult when typing long texts, i don't think this little program is going to have a promising future...
I am using it now and it is very difficult. Swype is much faster.
It is horrible, try it yourself!
I tried it and although I was excited about it at first, it's not a very pleasant experience. It takes too long to spell words and you have to learn a keyboard all over again. Layout could have been better I think. I am not fan of swype, but I think that is a much better experience. This is better than the WinMo6 small keyboards, but nothing compared to the keyboards found in any Android, WP7 and iOS device.
Tried it, wanted to like it, didn't like it.
Uninstalled and refunded.
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i have sweaty palm and i live in humid and hot climate. dragging finger across the screen is just nightmare for me any type of input similar to 8pen or swype never work since sweaty finger just create enough drag to really make the finger almost stuck. Normal input work much better.
Same principal as in "letter board" for people who lost their speech like stroke patients
20:50 First forum post using 8pen.
I have always struggled with a qwerty keyboard & I can't find swype on the android market.
perhaps I can get use to this.
I will see how it goes.
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Somewhat different keyboard

Ok guys, so i was very disappointed with the android keyboard. Its a great keyboard but something about it and the nexus just didn't work well in landscape mode. So i was browsing around the forums and i found a port, i decided to try it out. Now, its a simple apk file that doesnt replace the original one. To me it seems a bit better, i think the keys are a bit wider but then it might just be me. I wanted to post it here and have some of you guys try it out and tell me if there is a difference or if i just think its different. Tell me your guy's feedback, thanks.
ruben8448 said:
Ok guys, so i was very disappointed with the android keyboard. Its a great keyboard but something about it and the nexus just didn't work well in landscape mode. So i was browsing around the forums and i found a port, i decided to try it out. Now, its a simple apk file that doesnt replace the original one. To me it seems a bit better, i think the keys are a bit wider but then it might just be me. I wanted to post it here and have some of you guys try it out and tell me if there is a difference or if i just think its different. Tell me your guy's feedback, thanks.
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I'm giving it a try, I'll let you know in a few days how I like it.
Just installed this... I do believe the keys are a bit bigger in this version, but it's very subtle.
Xandlinger said:
Just installed this... I do believe the keys are a bit bigger in this version, but it's very subtle.
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It is a bit taller and very subtle but i think thats what i was really looking for, something a bit taller. In landscape the space is easier to push and the rest of the key aren't bad. I have to say i am quite happy with this one.
ruben8448 said:
It is a bit taller and very subtle but i think thats what i was really looking for, something a bit taller. In landscape the space is easier to push and the rest of the key aren't bad. I have to say i am quite happy with this one.
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The other slight difference I can tell is that the keys are slightly rounded as opposed to the squared off keys on stock.
Works for me - seems to produce fewer errors than the stock keyboard - thanks!
Rich
Been using this keyboard since yesterday and it's quite nice. Thanks for posting the link.
jlevy73 said:
Been using this keyboard since yesterday and it's quite nice. Thanks for posting the link.
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Agreed. Its quite nice. I've had a lot fewer errors (auto-corrected or not) than on the stock keyboard. Nice post OP!
Giving it a shot and seems to be better so far.
As a huge critic of the stock keyboard, I'm very excited to try this. Installing now. Will drop feedback after a day or two of use.
Initial impressions:
-Yes, the keys are definitely higher, slightly so. This should make it feel less cramped. I can tell already the extra room makes it easier to type.
-I still wish we can long press respective letter keys to get to their alternative symbols as oppose to only being able to long press the period key to find commons symbols.
-This will take more time to test, but it seems it's harder to recreate the double-letter hit issue which I criticize the keyboard heavily about. If this turns out to be true... hurray! Kenvan, have you noticed the double-letter issue popping up less? EDIT: Nevermind, it's rearing its ugly head again, but my early impression seems to show it happening less, which is a good start.
OP, where did you find this alternative? Thanks for sharing. I can tell it's better than stock just for the shear extra room. I ask because I'm wondering if the creator did anything else software-wise to make it better, if you all are reporting it's less prone to errors. I'd be curious to know what he did.
nvm need more research.
onthecouchagain said:
As a huge critic of the stock keyboard, I'm very excited to try this. Installing now. Will drop feedback after a day or two of use.
Initial impressions:
-Yes, the keys are definitely higher, slightly so. This should make it feel less cramped. I can tell already the extra room makes it easier to type.
-I still wish we can long press respective letter keys to get to their alternative symbols as oppose to only being able to long press the period key to find commons symbols.
-This will take more time to test, but it seems it's harder to recreate the double-letter hit issue which I criticize the keyboard heavily about. If this turns out to be true... hurray! Kenvan, have you noticed the double-letter issue popping up less? EDIT: Nevermind, it's rearing its ugly head again, but my early impression seems to show it happening less, which is a good start.
OP, where did you find this alternative? Thanks for sharing. I can tell it's better than stock just for the shear extra room. I ask because I'm wondering if the creator did anything else software-wise to make it better, if you all are reporting it's less prone to errors. I'd be curious to know what he did.
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Yea i read your post on the other keyboard thread you started. Yea so far i am really noticing a lot better results with this keyboard. I have been testing it for a week now and its going great. I was browsing around the android section in the threads and i found it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878073&highlight=Keyboard
ruben8448 said:
Yea i read your post on the other keyboard thread you started. Yea so far i am really noticing a lot better results with this keyboard. I have been testing it for a week now and its going great. I was browsing around the android section in the threads and i found it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878073&highlight=Keyboard
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Hmmm...that's odd. Per the first post of that thread, this is just a port of the Gingerbread keyboard that was originally made for earlier versions of Android.
So this is our stock keyboard with what modifications. The changelog in that post doesn't suggest anything special about it in terms of making it better on our Nexus S than the stock.
distortedloop said:
Hmmm...that's odd. Per the first post of that thread, this is just a port of the Gingerbread keyboard that was originally made for earlier versions of Android.
So this is our stock keyboard with what modifications. The changelog in that post doesn't suggest anything special about it in terms of making it better on our Nexus S than the stock.
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Yes, i was a bit hesitant to try this because i figured it was just our keyboard ported over but its different from our keyboard. Its a very slight difference, but a difference indeed. The keys are slightly longer and that just seems to make things a bit easier, for me and so far for the few who have attempted the keyboard. I took a screen shot of both stock and this ported stock, i guess you can call it, and you can see the slight difference.
Plus, i was just wandering around and i found this thread and thought "what the heck, let see it," it was never originally meant to go onto the nexus s but it seems better than what came with nexus s.
This keyboard rocks. Thank you!
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After a typing all day with this version of the stock keyboard, I am noticing it produces the same issues/errors as the regular stock version. I'm still noticing the double-letter hits with the first words of letters and/or the last words of letters ("eexample" or "examplee"); I'm also still noticing missed presses ("exmple"), but on the plus side: I am noticing far less missed space bar presses. Another issue that still occurs is the system missing auto corrections that it would normally get. For example, typing "tgan" usually automatically corrects to "than" but sometimes it misses it, and I see "tgan" throughout my emails. Very frustrating.
I predict the reason most people are reporting less errors using this version versus the reg. version is because of the higher keys. This alone makes this version better than the reg. version. But in terms of software, it's more or less the same, and the same problems creep up.
In the end, I'm going to return to Better Keyboard 8. Although it has the same issues (double-letters, etc.), at least it's features are more robust. Quick "?" key, or long-press for all letters alone makes it far easier to type on. Key height adjustment allows you to pick what's perfect for you too, and etc.
Honestly, it's disappointing and straight up baffled why Google themselves don't just implement all or some of these features to their keyboard. Sorely missing from both the stock keyboard and BK8 are custom auto-corrections, a feature Smart Keyboard Pro implements flawlessly. It's just a shame SKP has its own slew of issues with Gingerbread (it misses space bar and letters like crazy); oddly, none of these issues happen using SKP on my Vibrant. I don't know why.
In any case, thanks again for sharing, OP.

SwiftKey Flow hands-on with the Verizon Galaxy Note 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LSbKVpoFTtQ
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/11/30/s...eady-found-lurking-in-verizon-galaxy-note-ii/
Would love if this was ported to our notes :laugh:
b00gieMan_droid said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LSbKVpoFTtQ
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/11/30/s...eady-found-lurking-in-verizon-galaxy-note-ii/
Would love if this was ported to our notes :laugh:
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I signed up for beta testing. Apparently due to get it soon, according to an email they sent me (after two months without a peep from them!), so we'll see. The new default android keyboard also has swipe on it, but it's nothing like as good as Swype's, even though the word prediction is better. Word prediction on Swype was apparently developed by Martians who were better suited to throwing rocks at each other rather than using any known human language to communicate.
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I signed up for beta testing.
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And today I got it! Early impresssions...
Word prediction OK (obviously better than Swype), but no way of backing out of a bad word guess. You have to accept the word, then delete. Kind of slows you up.
The Flow's touted "never lift your finger again" is garbage. At least in this beta implementation. Again the problem is bad word guesses. You get half a dozen words in (swipe word, swipe space, swipe word, swipe space, etc), then bad word guess. Guess what? You have to accept it! Then delete it. And continue.
Flow also has an annoying habit of occasionally offering you just one word, and sometimes it's not the word you want. Why they've done this is beyond me - Swype is rubbish at guessing sensible words, but they rarely offer you just one guess.
So, in summary. Swype is still faster, with a better swipe implementation. Flow's word prediction is occasionally brilliant, so that helps. But it needs a bit more work to crack some of the UI issues. I'd rank it above the new 4.2 native android keyboard with swipe, but still a bit below Swype. Problem is that Swype is sometimes just so rubbish with its word guesses that I hate using it, so the first opportunity I get to use something else I will.
biscuitlad said:
And today I got it! Early impresssions...
Word prediction OK (obviously better than Swype), but no way of backing out of a bad word guess. You have to accept the word, then delete. Kind of slows you up.
The Flow's touted "never lift your finger again" is garbage. At least in this beta implementation. Again the problem is bad word guesses. You get half a dozen words in (swipe word, swipe space, swipe word, swipe space, etc), then bad word guess. Guess what? You have to accept it! Then delete it. And continue.
Flow also has an annoying habit of occasionally offering you just one word, and sometimes it's not the word you want. Why they've done this is beyond me - Swype is rubbish at guessing sensible words, but they rarely offer you just one guess.
So, in summary. Swype is still faster, with a better swipe implementation. Flow's word prediction is occasionally brilliant, so that helps. But it needs a bit more work to crack some of the UI issues. I'd rank it above the new 4.2 native android keyboard with swipe, but still a bit below Swype. Problem is that Swype is sometimes just so rubbish with its word guesses that I hate using it, so the first opportunity I get to use something else I will.
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Yes it is quite slow as well... and the method that they have as of now for getting out of bad guess is stupid.. but hey, its a beta, they are gonna take feedback... also it wont spell english words the way it should even if u swipe slowly and correctly.. in that scenario its lamer than swype.. soon they should be coming up with fixes.

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