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[Q] tab suggestions?

I really want an android tablet. I dont need it to have cellular access because I'm never without my phone and I have wifi tether. I would like it to have a strong development community. I don't want to spend an arm and a leg. Any suggestions on the best wifi tab for the money? I was actually thinking of a nook color, since honeycomb has already been ported over, but I don't know what the long-term future for that is. Thoughts?

I have a nook its working out pretty well for me. But as investment down the long road most likely not.
I am hoping Google drops a nexus tablet so I can just have that bought outright

austontatious said:
I really want an android tablet. I dont need it to have cellular access because I'm never without my phone and I have wifi tether. I would like it to have a strong development community. I don't want to spend an arm and a leg. Any suggestions on the best wifi tab for the money? I was actually thinking of a nook color, since honeycomb has already been ported over, but I don't know what the long-term future for that is. Thoughts?
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You have to determine your price range and what do you want out of the tablet. Me personally, I am going to get the Xoom WiFi edition. It's $600 BUT it's one hell of a tablet. The 3G/4G Xoom is $800. The ONLY difference between the WiFi version and the 3G/4G version is the cell radio. The specs are below.
http://developer.motorola.com/products/compare/?items=17869,17982,17987&pubid=987654
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/17/download-motorola-xoom-user-guide-verizon/

Velocity a7! I don't know about the revs for it but it seems pretty sweet... pre rooted!! Tegra 2! Preinstalled 2.2. I'm getting mine today haha
Its on sale for 299
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aimbdd said:
Velocity a7! I don't know about the revs for it but it seems pretty sweet... pre rooted!! Tegra 2! Preinstalled 2.2. I'm getting mine today haha
Its on sale for 299
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So..it is already behind the curve...

tejasrichard said:
So..it is already behind the curve...
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oh well considering it was released in december... no. 2.3 doesn't bring that much for tablets. well see what happens once honeycomb is launched.

ghodzilla5150 said:
You have to determine your price range and what do you want out of the tablet. Me personally, I am going to get the Xoom WiFi edition. It's $600 BUT it's one hell of a tablet. The 3G/4G Xoom is $800. The ONLY difference between the WiFi version and the 3G/4G version is the cell radio. The specs are below.
http://developer.motorola.com/products/compare/?items=17869,17982,17987&pubid=987654
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/17/download-motorola-xoom-user-guide-verizon/
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Getting the xoom myself too.

bwcorvus said:
Getting the xoom myself too.
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i think that would qualify as spending an arm and a leg..

Currently have an iPad, I'm probably going to just get the iPad 2 when it comes out. I'll get an android tab after they've been around for a while and we start to see some nice games for them.

I think the previous poster meant to say elocity a7 tablet. I'm considering the Xoom, Samsung Tab 10.1 or whatever catches my eye by the end up May. I think the dev community will be better with Xoom.
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Xoom will be worth the money imo, and there is also the LG G-Slate http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-nixing-10-premium-data-fee-15767/
Id say dont settle for anything less than dual core and Android 3.0...it will be worth the money and the wait. If money is > longevity...than current smasung tabs will probably be available for much less when newer ones arive.

Wait so if I am correct that I saw a xoom wifi only for 600?
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_MetalHead_ said:
Currently have an iPad, I'm probably going to just get the iPad 2 when it comes out. I'll get an android tab after they've been around for a while and we start to see some nice games for them.
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I honestly thought about an ipad, but I am just completely in love with android. As far as honeycomb, I know there will be a port for just about everything. Dual core is a good call. Are any of the archos tabs worth a damn? they're inexpensive ...

cesarcerros31 said:
Wait so if I am correct that I saw a xoom wifi only for 600?
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Yes, was announced on Wednesday. No date as of yet thou. Some speculate we will see the WiFi Xoom in April.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/17/motorola-posts-specs-for-gsm-and-wifi-only-xoom-indentical-to-o/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/motorola-xoom-price-official-799-unsubsidized-on-verizon-600/

honestly, i'd get an ipad 2 (when it comes out). that way you could have the best of both worlds. steve makes a pretty good tablet. just jailbreak, install some tweaks, and enjoy.

If I wanted an ipad 2 I would have an ipad 1. I hate apple and don't believe their hardware ia any better than mediocre. "People don't want to know how their device works, they just want it to work. That's why apple exists."

For 250 bucks you can't go wrong with a nook color.
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austontatious said:
If I wanted an ipad 2 I would have an ipad 1. I hate apple and don't believe their hardware ia any better than mediocre. "People don't want to know how their device works, they just want it to work. That's why apple exists."
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Not true. Their laptops, are amazing. But i would never by an iphone for a lot of reason. (or any other type of computer)

I have the dell streak and I like it. The battery life could be better. I do have a data plan with it but that's by choice. I got rid of my home internet and tether the streak and my evo for my home internet. The speakers on the streak are great...better than my ipad. Plus its 4G and the speeds are nice..
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The big tablet debate

So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.

Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).

I think that virtually everything that's "unfinished" about the Xoom is really about what's unfinished in Honeycomb. So, no other vendor is going to be ahead of Motorola in this regard. In fact, they're likely to be BEHIND the Xoom to the extent that they have customized UI's and/or software that they're adding to their devices.
The only exception to this is the 4G upgrade, but I don't know of any other tablet except the HTC on Sprint's that guaranteed so far of getting 4G at all. So, that shouldn't be counted against the Xoom.
Note that I'm not trying to defend the Xoom here, but rather to point out that other devices are likely to be just as "unfinished" as the Xoom until Google releases the first big Honeycomb update. For myself, I'm going to take a good hard look at the Asus, simply because the idea of having a keyboard dock with another 24Wh battery is really attractive to me.

Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.

bnandrew said:
So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.
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Xoom user here and I say wait til LG and Samsung release their Tabs, play with all of them and then decide. As far as the Scribe is concerned they already make tablet specific games so with that your already screwed.
Visual360 said:
Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).
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I also have GTab (that I'm willing to sell to anyone who wants it btw) and I have to say that customizing it is fun but using it is not. The screen is horrible and I mean really really bad, a disaster when you see it next to your phone or the xoom.
kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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That's not even one of his choices and I'm sorry but I think the xoom trumps the ipad 2 in almost all categories.
Just my input on the matter. Hope it helps.

Kcarpenter said:
Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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kalfou said:
Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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I still cant stand looking at the square icons all over my screen. iOS, even when jailbroken, is still boring to look at. Just my opnion but you still wouldnt be able to customize the iPad2 like I have with my Xoom.
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kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except the Jailbreak for iPad2 is still on the "horizon".

kalfou said:
Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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"Widgets".

kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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You really are barking up the wrong tree here. While the iPad 2 is great for my grandma and other non tech savvy people this is XDA DEVELOPERS and the iPad goes against everything we do here. Even with jailbreaking you will never get the full customization that you get with Android, never. Steve jobs thinks he knows best for his followers and always will. I even went and checked one out because it is more compatable with my colleges online learning center but I took one look at that horrid UI and just couldn't do it. Not to mention honeycomb is an actual tablet operating system, ios is the same OS as the iPhone just with some tablet friendly apps. Great for my gf and my mom but definitely not for someone like me who likes to tinker.
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Atrix vs sensation

I watched an atrix vs sensation youtube video. It was almost funny how badly the atrix while still running froyo spanked the sensation.
I think it's kind of funny when you look at what people want for an att band sensation. Some people want more than what an sgs2 costs while the atrix prices keep falling even with the unlocked bl and custom roms flowing in. The atrix screen although smaller, looked much better also.
I guess some people in the market place think others are stupid enough to pay $700 for a sensation that costs $549 new.
I'll keep my atrix and wait for the atrix 2 to come out with it's bigger screen.
Please don't flame me for this, it's just something I wanted to get off of my chest.
That and I think it's kind of funny that a phone (atrix) took so much crap for it's first few months spanks a phone that while being locked down gets paused by the majority.
My atrix

Oh yeah, man, the Atrix I got is awesome.
I lurk in the Marketplace and I see everyone's desire for a Sensation or a GS2 and I just don't see it either.
I thought you were crazy when you sold your GS2 and kept the Atrix but now I understand why.

TheBassman369 said:
Oh yeah, man, the Atrix I got is awesome.
I lurk in the Marketplace and I see everyone's desire for a Sensation or a GS2 and I just don't see it either.
I thought you were crazy when you sold your GS2 and kept the Atrix but now I understand why.
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Yep, I got bored with the sgs2 very fast. It reminded me of a slightly faster bigger captivate. I think touchwiz no matter how much they tweak it is boring. I do like sense but am very glad I didn't trade my atrix and transformer for a sensation.
I'm very happy with my atrix.
How are you and your family doing, I hope you guys are well and that your dad is doing good.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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People want a sensation for sense 3.0. People want a SGSII because of the SAMOLED screen and 8MP camera.
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How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....

kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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Its not fat, its just big boned!
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kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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Completely agree with your opinion of the Photon, its pretty much the exact same phone but with a better camera and the worst phone design I've seen. I normally don't care about appearances, but if I were on sprint I wouldn't buy it on looks alone.
With regards to the Atrix's reception, I think that has to do with how terrible the webtop implementation is. Its slow, feels incomplete and definitely not worth the hefty asking price. While that's not the fault of the phone itself, the webtop functionality is a large part of why it got so much attention in the first place.
What (I think) we have is a very vocal minority that's tarnishing its reputation. Most who've tried the phone know how great it is.

DarrellRaines said:
Its not fat, its just big boned!
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I lol'ed.
also the only thing devices such as the sensation had over the ATRIX was the unlocked bootloader, and now that advantage is gone. we now have a championship contender in this sexy device.
Sent from my int'l unlocked ATRIX. ROM infinitely variable.

I like my Atrix. Although the bootloader unlocked now, being locked for so long hurt, as few devs have come to the phone to do anything even after the unlock (compare to the evo 3d. Look at all those ROMs....ALREADY!) The build quality is also poor
And I agree, the webtop kinda sent the wrong message, especially because it kinda failed...
However, out of all phones I, as am AT&T user could have, I would only want the Atrix as of now
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Three things they could have done to make the webtop infinitely better and better received
- two finger or side scrolling on touchpad
- bigger keyboard!?!?!? Who designed the ergonomics on that thing
- PRICE PRICE PRICE - costs more than netbook for half a netbook?!?!
And on the phone side
- released w/ gingerbread. Speed diff is like night and day IMO.
Had they pushed it out the door a month later with gingerbread preloaded it would have been a much better contender. Thank god for unlocked BL

*Thinks* The Nexus Prime running icecream sandwich will end this debate.... it will be mine
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wintermute000 said:
Three things they could have done to make the webtop infinitely better and better received
- two finger or side scrolling on touchpad
- bigger keyboard!?!?!? Who designed the ergonomics on that thing
- PRICE PRICE PRICE - costs more than netbook for half a netbook?!?!
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Can we agree that, at least in the US (I honestly don't know how carriers in other nations handled it), the requirement to have a tethering plan even for occasional use on the mobile network was the final nail in the coffin of Atrix's reputation? Great phone but they practically have to give it away, owing mostly to Webtop being so overhyped, overpriced, and underwhelming...

donharden2002 said:
Yep, I got bored with the sgs2 very fast. It reminded me of a slightly faster bigger captivate. I think touchwiz no matter how much they tweak it is boring. I do like sense but am very glad I didn't trade my atrix and transformer for a sensation.
I'm very happy with my atrix.
How are you and your family doing, I hope you guys are well and that your dad is doing good.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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In some ways I could say the same things about my upgrade from the Milestone to the Atrix. Some days I still don't know I the upgrade is "truly" justified since I had high expectations and with Froyo it's not that much of an upgrade. On top of that, GB appears to have issues. (And its not limited to this device)
That's why my lower spec SGS still appeals to me since its more "different".
In the end I don't know how iPhone users can use the same phone year in and year out?...
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kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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Expectations were set too high IMO, and Motoblur really bogged this phone down. Too much excitement was probably set around the first dual-core/1GB mem device.
For many this was their first Motoblur phone and some now understand why MB is a PITA.
By all means I'm not trying to TC, and people will tear apart the Photon too.
The Photon is only getting love because it has that new car smell that's all.
The Nexus Prime is the next "it phone" but there will be many that will criticize that too, and the cycle will start over. Rinse, wash, repeat...
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What I learnt from this thread is that you find a lot of things and people funny.

donharden2002 said:
Yep, I got bored with the sgs2 very fast. It reminded me of a slightly faster bigger captivate. I think touchwiz no matter how much they tweak it is boring. I do like sense but am very glad I didn't trade my atrix and transformer for a sensation.
I'm very happy with my atrix.
How are you and your family doing, I hope you guys are well and that your dad is doing good.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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My family is doing good. My dad is okay but the last time we heard from him he and the rest of his unit were stuck in Leipzig, Germany. The left wing broke on the plane they were in...thankfully they were close to the ground. Lol. That was 3 days ago. He should be calling us sometime soon. Thanks for asking.
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kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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+100000!!!!
Same with the Bionic (even before we knew they switched out the processors and doubled the RAM) everyones going crazy with anticipation for it when it was essentially the same phone as the Atrix with half the RAM. Now I guess it's the same (not sure where OMAP stacks against Tegra?).

Purple Drama Llama said:
+100000!!!!
Same with the Bionic (even before we knew they switched out the processors and doubled the RAM) everyones going crazy with anticipation for it when it was essentially the same phone as the Atrix with half the RAM. Now I guess it's the same (not sure where OMAP stacks against Tegra?).
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I think in the case of the Bionic, the issue was it kept getting delayed. The people who wanted to buy it eventually settled on something else because they wanted/needed a new phone.

Atrix>Sensation

Jotokun said:
Completely agree with your opinion of the Photon, its pretty much the exact same phone but with a better camera and the worst phone design I've seen. I normally don't care about appearances, but if I were on sprint I wouldn't buy it on looks alone.
With regards to the Atrix's reception, I think that has to do with how terrible the webtop implementation is. Its slow, feels incomplete and definitely not worth the hefty asking price. While that's not the fault of the phone itself, the webtop functionality is a large part of why it got so much attention in the first place.
What (I think) we have is a very vocal minority that's tarnishing its reputation. Most who've tried the phone know how great it is.
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well one huge diff with photon is that it has HDMI mirroring AND webtop...

The nexus s and ice cream.

Calm down kids. Before you go nuts this post is for pure speculation of the nexus s and how it will perform with ice cream sammich. Now that the next major update will support full hardware acceleration (..finally) I'm wondering what I call the king of the single core world will perform like. I feel like once it drops we will finally see what the hummingbird+vr540 combo can fully achieve. I'm excited. Hopefully Google won't screw us over and keep ice cream from us to glorify the nexus prime.
Cheers.
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No worries you'll have ICS by Q2/12. On hte other hand Google said that one of the main features (yet UNannounced) will not be in ICS, maybe it's hardware accelleration.

Actually we will have ics the moment the source is released. (As long as android repos are back up by then!)
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I do hope you arw right, i really love google and that is the reason i just bought ns. If we dont get ics i will smash my ns as i did with my iphone.
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p.pavljasevic said:
I do hope you arw right, i really love google and that is the reason i just bought ns. If we dont get ics i will smash my ns as i did with my iphone.
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Don't do that! You could just fedex it to me instead. Lol

p.pavljasevic said:
If we dont get ics i will smash my ns as i did with my iphone.
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As much as I detest Apple, I would never destroy any of their products. One less phone on the market -> one more customer in their stores -> more money in their pockets.
Sell it on eBay, that way you get money, and they don't.

shrivelfig said:
As much as I detest Apple, I would never destroy any of their products. One less phone on the market -> one more customer in their stores -> more money in their pockets.
Sell it on eBay, that way you get money, and they don't.
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(Hint: they already got hte money for that device)

I just couldnt be that cruel to the next owner, iphone just sucks. Ns is way better. But one good thing is to be said about apple products and thats their long update support for older phones. Hope google does thesame.
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p.pavljasevic said:
But one good thing is to be said about apple products and thats their long update support for older phones. Hope google does thesame.
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Yeah like IOS4 on the 3G... whats for sure is that Apple is not good at taking care of even 2 year old phones and they do a good job of making the old phone look like crap when they release a new one.
In my opinion in reality it's quite the contrary of what you claim.
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2y = out of warranty worldwide, I'd not support those phones either.

Lol iPhones
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Nutsonfire said:
Yeah like IOS4 on the 3G... whats for sure is that Apple is not good at taking care of even 2 year old phones and they do a good job of making the old phone look like crap when they release a new one.
In my opinion in reality it's quite the contrary of what you claim.
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At least the 3G got ios4, oké its slow but at least its up to date security wise. I wanna see htc or samsung do that to 3 year old phones.
Dont get me wrong, i trully dislike Apple but they do stick to iphone updates.
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p.pavljasevic said:
At least the 3G got ios4, oké its slow but at least its up to date security wise. I wanna see htc or samsung do that to 3 year old phones.
Dont get me wrong, i trully dislike Apple but they do stick to iphone updates.
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They only do so to cripple older iPhones so the new one seems that much better to the isheep. Think about it. The 3gs and the i4 rock the same gpu and 200mhz difference clock speed on the cpus. Yet ios 4 runs like crap on the 3gs. The os still doesnt support true multitasking so what is really slowing down the 3gs compared to the i4. Some missing features and what I think is imposed sluggishness make the phone look that much worse to the i4. I had a 3gs. I was part if the iherd until I got fed up and got my epic. ****, I bet the hero can run ios 4 damn well.
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Haha. I was an isheep and followed the iherd everywhere they went. Then I became curious and saw saw the nexus for free. I said "what have I got to lose? It's free and if I don't like it I have 30 days to return it" well I'm just mad that I didn't have the strength to break from the iherd sooner. Lol!!! I still have a Mac and and an iPad. I'm happy with my mac, however I'm trying to save money to get the tab.
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RushAOZ said:
****, I bet the hero can run ios 4 damn well.
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Ouch! The hero was one bad mofo for what it was!
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RushAOZ said:
They only do so to cripple older iPhones so the new one seems that much better to the isheep. Think about it. The 3gs and the i4 rock the same gpu and 200mhz difference clock speed on the cpus. Yet ios 4 runs like crap on the 3gs. The os still doesnt support true multitasking so what is really slowing down the 3gs compared to the i4. Some missing features and what I think is imposed sluggishness make the phone look that much worse to the i4. I had a 3gs. I was part if the iherd until I got fed up and got my epic. ****, I bet the hero can run ios 4 damn well.
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iPhone 4 has more RAM. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out why it's noticeably faster.

ZeroCool84 said:
iPhone 4 has more RAM. Doesn't seem that hard to figure out why it's noticeably faster.
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Clock for clock the iPhone 4's processor blows away the 3GS
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How did this become a iPhone discussion lol.
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If ICS doesn't support hardware acceleration then I dont know what to say. Seriously, I have been waiting for that since the HTC DREAM...
Having a relatively lag free experience on the superphones should be a top priority.

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More ram and a faster processor isn't a reasonable explanation as to why ios doesn't run well enough on the 3gs when Ios is very simple and isn't CPU intensive. Maybe whole running certain apps yes. But trust me when I tell you the 3gs was good enough to run ios 4 with no issues whatsoever.
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Samsung loses court case, >$1B

According to USA Today, Samsung lost the vast majority of the substantial patent violation issues in the CA suit with damages of over $1B awarded to Crapple.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung is in pretty deep poo just about now. It won't affect OG Epic users, as we are using EOL hardware. But for those of us considering upgrades it might have some impact. I'm thinking long and hard about buying an SGS3 or any other Sammy product right now. They are going to be a mess for at least a year while all of this patent stuff gets worked out.
Anyone else have thoughts on what kind of impact this might have?

techfuman said:
According to USA Today, Samsung lost the vast majority of the substantial patent violation issues in the CA suit with damages of over $1B awarded to Crapple.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung is in pretty deep poo just about now. It won't affect OG Epic users, as we are using EOL hardware. But for those of us considering upgrades it might have some impact. I'm thinking long and hard about buying an SGS3 or any other Sammy product right now. They are going to be a mess for at least a year while all of this patent stuff gets worked out.
Anyone else have thoughts on what kind of impact this might have?
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I just want to get a Samsung Captive Glide, switch to Net10/Straight Talk, and call it a day. I have no idea what this means as far as downloading or updating apps or updating the system specs or whatever. But that's all I want until the NEXT powerful Android with a keyboard comes out.
Right now I just have the Epic 4G, and when I get $500 I'll get the Captivate Glide. I hope by then nothing hinky happens when I try to activate then unlock it.

The only effect it will have will be Apple's attempt to go after companies like Motorola & HTC. Pinch-to-Zoom is on every android device, I think and they will most likely use this victory to add fuel to their nuke android campaign.
There will be a lot of change to the android software and a lot of change android phone designs that are rectangular.
And last F*** Apple.

As bad as this could be for Samsung, look at it this way, they could come up with something more innovative than apple ever will. Maybe Samsung will be the first manufacturer to use mini-projectors in mobile devices and follow through with those plans. (And patent designs before release)
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jeffreyjicha said:
As bad as this could be for Samsung, look at it this way, they could come up with something more innovative than apple ever will. Maybe Samsung will be the first manufacturer to use mini-projectors in mobile devices and follow through with those plans. (And patent designs before release)
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Sammy already has a phone with a mini projector in the UK called Samsung Galaxy Beam http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-beam-1090224/review
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czechpunk said:
Sammy already has a phone with a mini projector in the UK called Samsung Galaxy Beam http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-beam-1090224/review
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Would ya look at that. Lol
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Well Samsung has been attacking apple for a while on purpose. Look at the adapter module for their chargers looks just like the iPhone Version. And the phone icon looks just like the iOS version. That's about it.No reason to sue its all about advancing technology. I think apple is just trying to get rid of competition. I love Samsung, I love iOS. But I think I'm loosing respect for apple as $1B is a slap in the face. Instead of tearing a company down by suing them. Apple could just make a phone 10X better and Then Samsung would do the same. It would be a continuous loop. That's competition. OH AND APPLE SAMSUUNG PHONES LOOK NOTHINHG LIKE YOUR SMALL 3.5" SCREEN DESIGN.
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BloatedDuck404 said:
Well Samsung has been attacking apple for a while on purpose. Look at the adapter module for their chargers looks just like the iPhone Version. And the phone icon looks just like the iOS version. That's about it.No reason to sue its all about advancing technology. I think apple is just trying to get rid of competition. I love Samsung, I love iOS. But I think I'm loosing respect for apple as $1B is a slap in the face. Instead of tearing a company down by suing them. Apple could just make a phone 10X better and Then Samsung would do the same. It would be a continuous loop. That's competition. OH AND APPLE SAMSUUNG PHONES LOOK NOTHINHG LIKE YOUR SMALL 3.5" SCREEN DESIGN.
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How much different can a phone icon look and still be recognized as a phone icon? Was apple the first company ever to make something rectangular with rounded edges? Were they the first to make a user interface with squares? How can they patent this stuff and sue over it? Its the most generic stuff. Ridiculous. And they sued their largest partner, who makes about 90% of the components in the iPhone/iPad. Apple seems to be done innovating. They take features from Android and then try to make them sound revolutionary. Then, they sue the companies actually innovating and make their products delayed or taken off shelves. The iPhone 1 was revolutionary and really made the smartphone market the way it is today (everyone has one, not just geeks or business people). But they haven't done anything since then. They've made the camera better, screen a bit better, and changed processor.
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Next thing we know they'll add something to the iPhone like a 4 inch screen and an LTE radio and sue over that
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Crapple is just scared because theyre riding this iphone garbage train as long as they can. Samsung will surely slam a future product in their faces. Lets face it, without steve jobs, the innovation is over for them.
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This 1000 times
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Samsung made 3.45 Billion in a quarter of 2012. Do you really think they can't handle a 1 billion dollar advertisement? This didn't kill them.
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Samsung made 3.45 Billion in a quarter of 2012. Do you really think they can't handle a 1 billion dollar advertisement? This didn't kill them.
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It seems to have pissed off alot of folks who used to like Apple and their stale, monotonous product line. I have three cohorts who converted to Android and Windows phones as a result of this lawsuit crap. And I can't wait till they announce the iPhone 5 and everyone sees what a big "nothing" it is. The iSheep are gonna look like kids who wake up Christmas morning to find a stocking full of coal...
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orlzzt said:
And I can't wait till they announce the iPhone 5 and everyone sees what a big "nothing" it is. The iSheep are gonna look like kids who wake up Christmas morning to find a stocking full of coal...
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Dont be silly. The iSheeple will look at that piece of coal and harp on how shiny a diamond they have. ROFL!

While it sucks they did lose, I do hope it doesn't result in a takedown of major phones. Samsung has been releasing some interesting stuff, and I really do want to hold out on getting a new one 'till they come out with a new slider. I can't imagine what I'd choose if Samsung's development was hindered because of this stupid ordeal.

dcrocks said:
dont be silly. The isheeple will look at that piece of coal and harp on how shiny a diamond they have. Rofl!
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lolz! This ^^^

Well, their piece of coal is worth a diamond so...
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Recent news! Google strikes back!

Modoru said:
Recent news! Google strikes back!
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Google-rola
LOL.

What does the future hold for dear Sammy? Only time will tell i guess.