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MDAcompact 2 with winmobile 2005 out in November in Germany

The word is out!!! :
German tmobile is offering the mdacompact 2 around middle of november 2005.
Specs:
128mb
Windows mobile 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seemingly NO wlan!!!!
See photo from official catalogue:

thats a joke... isn't it
no wlan... than i see no serious reason to buy an mdac2 instead an mdac1... only because of 128mb an wm05...

tko said:
thats a joke... isn't it
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No, its not a joke!!!
The employees couldnt tell me a price yet, and the catalogue definately does not show specifications with wlan!!!!
I asked the employees and they couldnt find wlan either.
You should be able to pick up the catalogue yourself at your favourite tmobile store within the next few days.
Greetings

No wifi for any new PPC phone is a joke, saying that, no EDGE is aswell!
I wonder, would the MDA2 rom work on the normal magician.... cause if it has no wifi module wouldnt it be just ur run-of-the-mill Qtek S110 / upgraded magician?

If this is the real deal, there wouldn't be much reason for current Magician owners to update. But at least they could keep on selling this very popular phone for some time yet, provided they dump the price.
And why shouldn't they? Surely they have made enough money already on the Magician, so whatever they can get in on v2, is just an welcome bonus.
If the WM5 rom can be installed on the current Magicians, they would even get a very happy userbase, which most likely would choose the same brand again
Btw, have you noticed the lower two buttons are the same as on the current Magician? Oh well, guess we shouldn't read too much into this early picture...

This product is similar to the i-mate New Jam with 128mb ram and WM2003SE, I have this device and it is very nice,very stable and i love it.
The only difference is WM5 and if they do release it then we all can have WM5 on our devices.

It's coming out in the UK too, but in a different colour.....

I wouldn't presume you'll be able to upgrade a Magician with a Magician2 ROM. After all you can't upgrade a Himilaya with an Alpine ROM.
Unless of course it really is exactly the same device - with WM5?

Well, it LOOKS to be the exact same device. If they did any upgrades, wouldn't they advertise it?
After the Raptor hoax I guess most people don't wanna get their hopes up again, but I find this thing very interesting

For all disbelievers
@all,
stop doubting!
here you see main cataloge page and specs page:
note: specs page does not state wlan, while other machine specs does!!!
just changed specs page to full page
Greetings

The second ad also states "extensible memory". They wouldn't refer to the SD slot, would they?

Chatty said:
The second ad also states "extensible memory". They wouldn't refer to the SD slot, would they?
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Yes they do,
extensible memory = sd-io/mmc slot.

But SD is not usual memory, it is storage.
But I wouldn't be surprised it marketing is mixing it "accidentally" up... :roll:

We're in November today ... can't wait to see how this develops!!!

shafez - does it have built in wifi?
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If that's the new MDA Compact II, why is the spec on the below different?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4493.html
It claims to have Wifi and the two buttons seem to have different functions than this German one.

Ahh yes. "reliable" msmobiles.... ahem

ibanyard said:
Ahh yes. "reliable" msmobiles.... ahem
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:lol: :lol: 8)

Yeah- the German one seems more convincing...

Yayyy its november already, c'mon you guys on germany, get this phone so we can "exam" it!!

Vista SP1, on your shift or not?

Hi everyone, just notice the news is saying Vista SP1 starting appearing on windows update, just wonder if any of you sees that on your Shift? i click check for update many many times already and it just not there.
I know there is a stand alone install file, but i prefer to automatic download through windows update.
So what is going on, is SP1 on for Shift or not?

wu5262 said:
Hi everyone, just notice the news is saying Vista SP1 starting appearing on windows update, just wonder if any of you sees that on your Shift? i click check for update many many times already and it just not there.
I know there is a stand alone install file, but i prefer to automatic download through windows update.
So what is going on, is SP1 on for Shift or not?
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It's coming on Windows Update but not everyone can see it.
I already downloaded it 2 weeks ago (MSDN) and I can recommand it
It takes a long time to install, but after that it's nice to have it.

wu5262 said:
Hi
So what is going on, is SP1 on for Shift or not?
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Don't know. I did this check for updates several times, and hoppa, once it asked me if I wanted to install the SP1.
That was 18-3 in the evening east european time. In the afternoon I had no luck.
Works great.
Huib

installed, but not very cleanly
Well, after 3 failures, I finally updated to SP1 using Windows Update.
Took a lot longer than an hour I can tell you. Between 2-4 hours per attempt.
In the end, I still had no audio and problems with Shagctrl. Followed instruction on other threads here and they seem to be ok now.
My remaining problem is that he custom buttons on the right side of the screen are no longer mapped. Shagctrl and resolution changer are accessible by running the applications directly, but the buttons don't do anything.
Any ideas?

I tried the beta and notice some great improvements with my videocard. I origianlly scored a 4.5 without it and with it I received a 4.7. The gaming graphics received a much higher score. I uninstalled the SP1 RC1 though in order to aquire the newer release and still have not seen it yet. I do know that MS states they have already started releasing it to the manufactures as of Feb 2008. Who knows.

Hyden121 said:
I uninstalled the SP1 RC1 though in order to aquire the newer release and still have not seen it yet. I do know that MS states they have already started releasing it to the manufactures as of Feb 2008. Who knows.
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Yes that's correct. It showed up in the partner site a couple of weeks ago.
Otherwise, use this link to download it
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=en

VISTA SP1
The direct download is hidden until next week and they really want you to do it via Windows Update.
But here's the link (no MSDN required!!)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=en
DOH!!! Didn't see the full link and thought it was an error.

Thank you for the link. I will be a lot happier now. In your opinion, I have 2gb of ram. Would it be beneficial to buy another 2 gb to have 4gb? The price is right....

You have 2GB RAM on the Shift and wonder whether you should upgrade to 4GB?
First, I don't really believe in the 2 GB - (theoretically possible but hits you with roughly $500 and voids the warranty) and 4Gb is just not possible, that kind of RAM for the Shift does not exist (maybe in some dev labs of RAM manufacturers, ready for release in 2009 ...)

mw65719 said:
You have 2GB RAM on the Shift and wonder whether you should upgrade to 4GB?
First, I don't really believe in the 2 GB - (theoretically possible but hits you with roughly $500 and voids the warranty) and 4Gb is just not possible, that kind of RAM for the Shift does not exist (maybe in some dev labs of RAM manufacturers, ready for release in 2009 ...)
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Umm Sorry, I was comfused and was talking about the memory for my PC not PPC since the topic of Vista SP1 was on the board. I would love my phone to even have 1 gig.

I just UNINSTALLED SP1.
There was no problem with screen drivers.
There was no problem with Shift Control Center. (after I uninstalled and re-installed.)
Actualy I was running smoothly but for one thing:
The USB Tool kept disconecting.
I really want the WM to Vista connection to be stable so I can backup my PIM between Vista and WM so... I uninstalled it and everything works fine now.
Greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

Hyden121 said:
Umm Sorry, I was comfused and was talking about the memory for my PC not PPC since the topic of Vista SP1 was on the board. I would love my phone to even have 1 gig.
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In this case, let's go off topic for a moment:
If you already have 2GB in your desktop, another 2 GB to get to 4GB will probably not change that much (for "normal use"). On the other hand, RAM is cheap (except for the f***ing microDIMMs) and if you should do things like video editing ...
Just one advice: Consider adding only 1GB on top as Windows Vista 32 can only access a maximum of 3.5GB. Putting in the full 4GB would be more than Vista can handle (unless you should be running the 64bit version) and while it just ignores the additional half GB, this is wasted money.

Froyo around the corner:-)

http://www.amobil.no/artikler/android_2_2_til_galaxy_s_rett_rundt_hjornet/78810
This was an artical on a norwegian mobile site
This summer, it was said that Android 2.2 version of the Galaxy S probably would get an official version in September. September is known as the passed, but the update is now just around the corner.
- We have estimated the deployment in mid-October, and hopefully the update will reach users during the next week, "said Stig Ove Langø, major account manager in Samsung Norway.
Your phone is much faster
Android OS 2.2, also called Froyo, is a major update. Some of the highlights:
The browser has been quicker to load sites with Javascrip
Applications will load two to five times faster that everything does not have to be before you start, but it all happen on the way
Processor performance of the phone in general should be better
Memory handling must be very much faster.
Exchange support is greatly improved
The phone can function as Wi-Fi router
In addition, there are a lot of other things that have changed when it comes to user interface. The full list can look at the Android development page.

Great
Sent from my GT-I9000

Ah, that's good news. amobil.no are usually more dependable than any operator. So this might just be the right deal...

it depends where the corner is...
i think is near too.

Samsung just tweeted this:
samsungukmobile Samsung UK Mobile
We’re very sorry about the delay with the release of Froyo. We're working on it round the clock & will post an update as soon as we have one
They like to tweet something like that every other week to make us think it's nearby. All we can do is wait.

hey tweeted that on the 8th i believe, and probably re-tweeted it again
i hope to god its just round the corner, im not moaning believe me, i moaned a hell of alot more with my hero and the delays for 2.1
GPS best be fixed, as no matter what rom i have flashed, it takes an age to lock on, and when it does at best im about 100 metres away from where i actually am
The filesystem is shocking also
all in all though, i love the music player, samsung always get that bit right

that gps problems is a hardware problem some guy who sended his phone back got a new antenna(different material) in it and then it worked fine! its with the first batch of phones. i got a phone that came with jm2 instead of fp3 from when i got it right out of the box and my phone is good and acurate on gps quick fix and very accurate 5-10 meters

Its a software problem with the GPS. i get 5-10 meters accuracy too. But when i slow down everything went jumping around... locking is not a problem for me. Its only that it cant rly lock me to one place. So i guess its a software problem

yea its jumping a little i just noticed in a gps monitoring program but it keeps locked on (rarely they go all gray for a sec but then its back again)(gives no problems in actual navigation) here and while driving and navigating in car with sygic mobile maps it never looses track

Thread hijacked

FroYo better be good or I'm selling and getting WP7. Although I was against it from the start its shaping up to better than Android.
I love Android but its not polished as an OS yet. It really isn't. Samsung's AWFUL software department doesn't help either.

PaulForde said:
Samsung just tweeted this:
samsungukmobile Samsung UK Mobile
We’re very sorry about the delay with the release of Froyo. We're working on it round the clock & will post an update as soon as we have one
They like to tweet something like that every other week to make us think it's nearby. All we can do is wait.
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Good to know that they are working their ass off, because the beta Froyo's i've seen are not worth waiting for
Hope they take their time to make the update really worthwhile. No problem waiting for it.

khsbenny said:
FroYo better be good or I'm selling and getting WP7. Although I was against it from the start its shaping up to better than Android.
I love Android but its not polished as an OS yet. It really isn't. Samsung's AWFUL software department doesn't help either.
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So because Android still has a few quirks to sort out and needs some polish here and there, you're considering jumping to a spanking new, "fully rewritten" platform?
Among the features that are not yet present are cut, copy, and paste, full multitasking
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Support for removable SD cards and tethering have also been left out of the OS. Microsoft claims this to be in the interest of data security for enterprise users. Windows Phone 7 will also not support Silverlight in the web browser or IPsec virtual private network (VPN) security, videocalling, a system-wide file manager, Bluetooth file transfers, and music player equalizers.
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7
Windows Phone 7 might become the next-best thing since sliced bread, but they've still got a long way to go

Then you can blame is all on M$ again like people are used too hehe

Einride said:
So because Android still has a few quirks to sort out and needs some polish here and there, you're considering jumping to a spanking new, "fully rewritten" platform?
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Mainly because I miss my QWERTY keyboard! I was hoping the Epic would become global, but for some reason companies intend on keeping QWERTY for CDMA only .

proof GPS works fine on 2.1 stock phone with xwjm2 firmware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjtLMOMemRQ&fmt=22 <-- Direct hd link

[Q] Is 256 MB of RAM low ?

give me your opinions about the Samsung Focus RAM

According to Microsoft, the RAM is 512.
Not sure who to believe MS, or the general interweb information.
M.

I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.

Thank you all guys
you gave me hope!!!!!!

ryotgz said:
I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.
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Nice one, thanks!

Molal said:
Nice one, thanks!
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Yea I just hope they didn't get it confused with the ROM size... AT&T has a PDF spec sheet that says 256MB. Only time will tell I guess.

Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...

ryotgz said:
Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...
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That's exactly my line of thinking - surround instead of focus if the focus only has 256mb of RAM.
But, watching the videos of the focus it looks as fluid as the other 512mb RAM phones.....maybe 256mb is all you need. Particularly given the fact that the Windows OS spreads across RAM (inc. the memory card).

The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.

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The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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I hope you're right. Because I saw the specs that Microsoft required a minimum of 256MB. AT&T has a spec sheet that shows 256MB as well. I want AT&T to be wrong and MS website to be right.

Every review I've seen today shows only 256mb of ram. With the lack of 3rd party multitasking apps I don't see this as being a major problem. Having said that I would have liked the phone to have 512mb just in case. You can never have too much ram.

ericc191 said:
The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.

nerdgenius said:
You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.
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I stand corrected.

Samsung Focus is the phone I want to get without settlling. THe HD7 is a little too big for me, I might as well get a tablet. However like a few people here, I might have to settle for the HTC Surround if the Focus does indeed only have 256MB RAM.
Sure it may be acceptable now with 256MB but MS could release Windows Phone SP1 or SP2 with multitasking enabled. I also know too many iPhone users who will gloat if I get a phone with less RAM than theirs. I am still up in the air and wish the decision were easy if the Focus had 512MB RAM or the Surround had a microSD slot.
If I do get the Surround, it looks like I will need to sell this 32GB microSD card I just purchased..
The thing is Microsoft recently updated their 'at-a-glance' WP7 site to correct inaccuracies and it still shows the Focus at 512MB RAM.
[www dot microsoft dot com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/glance.aspx]

Yes! Engadget confirmed the RAM is 512MB and the ROM will be 1GB! The Samsung PR lady that emailed me was right.
Engadget Focus Review

Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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The Venue Pro is also expandable

Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
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The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?

ouvreboite said:
The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?
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Microsoft's website shows the same RAM & ROM. So there's a good chance it will.

Good news indeed. This and the GPS (concerns it would suffer the same as the Galaxy S devices) were the only two things holding me back from this device. Now, November 8th can't get here soon enough.

Bounty for honeycomb! $170 so far!

Let's get some developers in here!!
So far we have!
$60 from me
$30 from chrisrotolo
$60 from jitin02
$20 from zinqzinq
Maybe $60 from Revin lol

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I will throw 60 in lets get some developers motivated
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+1...........................................................m with u

If it will be usable (so I guess we will have to wait for HC 3.2 anyway) then 60 USD will still be much cheaper than buying new device (not to mention that there is no other 5 inch screen smartphone and no, I am not buying anything with smaller screen ).
So, count me in

Put me down for $30, maybe more for full RC, no bugs.

count me too
My 60us$

and mine 20 cos im student

Updated

jitin02 said:
count me too
My 60us$
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+10... As it makes total of 7(6+0+1+0) and lol its my lucky number
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chrisrotolo said:
Put me down for $30, maybe more for full RC, no bugs.
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For me even if its lil buggy ... will donate more for improvements
And GUYZ I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS FOR CYANOGEN TOO .. WHOZ WITH ME.........
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Plus 20
Sent from Dell Streak

Ill post up 100.00 if they can fix the volume for bluetooth and aux jack. of all the phones ive tested the bluetooth volume and syc suck along with aux volume output.
id like ice cream or the latest stable build

30USD OR 2 Bitcoin (that should make 200USD now in total paypal alright?) for any honeyc build that has
a) usable, everyday speed
b) Bluetooth phone communication is working
(yes I am happy to wait for whatever 3.x version is workable or available)
question / suspicion tho: in the streak 7 forums I read the insane increase in DPI needed, to make the high res apps usable... the streak 5 might not be able to supply the minimum res....
and AMEN to "I wont buy a smaller screened phone"

DJ_Steve wrote on twitter that he had to set DPI to 80 on Dell Streak 5 to make google apps work in Honeycomb. Streak has default 160, so you can imagine how small everything was
However, I heard that Honeycomb 3.2 should support smaller tablets, so I guess we just have to wait for HC 3.2
And another thing - does somebody now if HC is supporting phone functions at all (call, messages etc.)? I hope that I will be able to make calls with my HoneyStreak

Count me in. 30$, more if it is working well!

Isn't this a bit tacky to say the least? You give what you can most of developers could charge us from the get go and don’t. Plus a bounty for something that does not exist is useless anyways.
GB, HC, etc are dependent on propriety software that Dell is not authorized to release (Dell recently removed GB from their open source web page). Are there ways around it, sure, but a couple hundred bucks for someone to sit down with a blank screen and write the audio code is not going to do it. Have supervised projects that require specialized code to be written; 1. Does not happen overnight 2. More than one writes the code for minimum 8 hours a day for weeks on end. 3. More errors than successes 4. Alpha’s can and will brick your device 5. Beta’s can go through multiple iterations (just think Windows, which version ever came out without constantly needing patches) 6. Just when you think you have it right a life event happens to your key developer. 7. When you release it, people still piss and moan it is not right/what they wanted/what they expected and demand their money back. 8. Could go on, but you get the gist of my discussion.
In closing for this to ever become reality, will require complete HC Alpha (or better) for the Streak 5 from Dell as the start point. Am I crushing dreams, no, just telling you how it is.

Damn audio drivers, if we at least know who is the owner of them.
I see, that HC 3.2 is out and there is support for 7-inch displays (maybe usable on Streak?) and support for Qualcomm chips... maybe it can be ported?

Is there even code for honeycomb that would work on arm?
most of whats been hacked together by steve for s5 is from the sdk, emulator images..
there is no phone support in HC
rather than a silly fund, why not spend the time investigating how to do this for your selves, its android the information is out there for you to find and read..

To tell the truth, I am thinking about it, I have some spare time right now and I just want to try it. But I am not sure if it is even possible or if there is some insolvable problem like with porting MIUI/CM roms (no audio drivers from Dell).

It's threads like this that make you wonder what Dell is thinking. Even with all their screwups, if they got on the stick and provided decent support for this phone they could sell a ton of them. As it is, with this as an example, who would ever buy another Dell phone? I'll nurse this one along simply for the screen real estate and because I love the Google freebies, but I won't ever buy another of their phones.

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I see, that HC 3.2 is out and there is support for 7-inch displays (maybe usable on Streak?) and support for Qualcomm chips...
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I didnt know that they now support 7inch... now I am just more sad 'n anoyed
argh