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Ok so Cotulla has released a couple of .nbh files. Does anyone know how I would use these to boot from nand?
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They are for the devs to test not for the public to use...

Let's wait to hear from him first. He's been quiet for a while now.
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Well he had posted on twitter sayn that we'll have a surprise from him in SEPT, may thats it..!!!
But still needs to be tested by the devs..!!!
Cotulla rocks..!!!

You need to use the bootloader MAGLAR first I wouldn't mess around with it yet
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hope we would get it right now

wow he code his own bootloader for HD2, he kick htc's a** hard!

Jammie_1989 said:
You need to use the bootloader MAGLAR first I wouldn't mess around with it yet
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Its on his website but nothing else, I think the loader is kinda useless to non devs without a build to boot from nand, but great news and work by cotulla
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Million thanks to costulla

Yeh don't go messing around until there are instructions on how to use this new bootloader and the right nbh unless you might end up pricking the device from what I can gather seems like it runs over the native bootloader? Can't wait for nand
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are we ever going to see WP7 on android?

like a rom of some sort, or should i just buy a WP7 phone

bamp for more win

Highly unlikely. It's more plausible that you will see Android for a WP7 phone due to proprietary drivers.

But the most important question is: why would you ever desire WP7 on an Android device?!?!

Daemon1978 said:
But the most important question is: why would you ever desire WP7 on an Android device?!?!
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Just for the wow factor i think...
Like when we install w98 and ubunto on our android devices...;-)
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I loved winmo, but as I read about what win phone 7 was going to be like, I jumped ship to android just to show M$ my disgust with how they will be crippling winmo in sooooo many ways.
Been pretty happy with my Evo on android.
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Only the snapdragon chip is supported so even if it happens expect HTC phones only, I'd much rather see Android on the HTC 7 pro if it has 4g
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it will miss the menu button though :/ mmm I would like to have a dual booting phone just to say "with my android phone I can!"

No desire for WM7...the UI looks kinda square

DBBGBA said:
it will miss the menu button though :/ mmm I would like to have a dual booting phone just to say "with my android phone I can!"
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Press camera button is menu hold camera is camera
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shad0wfire said:
Press camera button is menu hold camera is camera
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Well that's nifty I guess
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HTC W7 Question?

Can I flash an android rom onto a HTC W7?
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no...but you can use android on SD

Nicolfa said:
Can I flash an android rom onto a HTC W7?
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If you have a HD2 running WP7 then yes you can run Android from SD card. If you have a native WP 7 HTC device it seems like the ability to run Android on WP7 is coming or has just not been officially released yet.
Well I wanted to link it for you to check out. But cause I was stupid and did not keep up with it I can not find it in the XDA Portal now. But not too very long ago there was a article in the XDA Portal about A video showing a HTC HD7 (I think) running Android. The video did not divulge if it was from Micro SD card or from NAND but it was a video I promise. For the bleeping life of me I can not find it in the Portal.
Ok I found it on YouTube for you here.

Wp7 on DHD

3-4days ago, I saw that HTC announced Titan and Radar.. and both the cpu is msm8255. Moreover Radar is 1GHZ.... So I think we can port wp7 to our DHD... What do you think?
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Um why wp7 on the dhd?
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Better than nothing... Isn't it? I always envy HD2....
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Eh true, I dunno love android too much. but am curious about wp7
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It wolud be awesome a dual boot android wp7 but i think only cotulla can do it

Sounds interesting. I hope someone can do this id love to give it a try.
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Well, the problem isn't just the chipset. There are also other hardware parts that probably aren't the same as in these devices.
And that parts are the problem because wp7 is closed source so you can't really modify drivers, kernel,... Since android is open source, the drivers can be "easily" modified or replaced by others.
But if HTC uses the exact same hardware in these devices, there is a SMALL possibility that it will be portet someday. But imo it's unlikely that it will be ported.
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It would be awesome indeed. But I doubt that someone will do it.
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In my opinion, if you want to use wp7 and don't want to spend very much, you can buy a used hd2 around 100€... I am playing with this idea now, because I use two phones and wp7 looks nice and works good, but my main phone is and will be my DHD with Android because android can do more, than I would wish on a phone. It's the most amazing operating system ever...
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the question, why? I would have answered, just because of the good feeling that our phone can do that. I would never use W7 but I would like to try to look again and tell myself that the DHD with Android platform the best choice.

Well, if there are someone who will to create a new custom bootloader, den I think multi boot on multi os is possible
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I saw someone discovered dual boot between sense rom and non sense rom....
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[sarcasm] Wow, surprised this hasn't been asked before[/sarcasm] If you want WP7 on your phone go buy a windoze phone, it's closed source and would be a helluva a lot of effort for people to go to and why bother?.
Anyway MODS any chance you can close this thread as you have the other 100+ asking this question?

I suppose that it will be nice to have dual boot, but IMO wp7 sucks. The effort in achieving this is just not worth it.
Have wp7 on my work phone and I must say that win 6.5.x on my topaz is much better. Yes the speed and UI are better but some general things (which are very annoying in daily use) need to be polished.
Many missed calls as the wp7 can be powered off while phone is locked. So every time you put it in your pocked you must be sure that power button is face down.

i just can't honestly think why any one would want wp7 as a daily OS, maybe for a play, but why, really why?

sam.crowther said:
i just can't honestly think why any one would want wp7 as a daily OS, maybe for a play, but why, really why?
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Why does people keep asking this question? It's because we can. Please write it down for future reference.
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Android is the best
ill stick to android..one of the best...

I for one would love to see WP7 dual boot with CM7 on my DHD. Even if it's just for a proof of concept. The new Mango update does give WP7 ability to run on DHD hardware. Maybe not e'thing would work but the chipset will be supported. So porting it to DHD shouldm't be that difficult.

ghostofcain said:
[sarcasm] Wow, surprised this hasn't been asked before[/sarcasm] If you want WP7 on your phone go buy a windoze phone, it's closed source and would be a helluva a lot of effort for people to go to and why bother?.
Anyway MODS any chance you can close this thread as you have the other 100+ asking this question?
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Garbage suggestion

The Same question was in my mind and i was going to post topic about it right now
why there is no chance to get WP7 running at Desire HD ???

Dual Boot

This should really start being looked into by the devs. It would be AMAZING to have it on the Epic4G. Easier said than done. But we got some great devs and I think they can pull it off!!. Please devs. We need this!
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What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.

LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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wtogami said:
What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
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NOT DUALBOOTING
kennyglass123 said:
LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting

XxLostSoulxX said:
NOT DUALBOOTING
Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
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I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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kennyglass123 said:
I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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not trying to be tough lol just saying is all. but if an old windows mobile phone can why cant ours, the htc touch pro 2 did and has less everything than ours.

I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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joe_d08_17 said:
I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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Ha...been awhile since I was accused of that...lol.
Is it possible that other phone's ROMs are much smaller than ours? It can be done but would be a tight squeeze on MTD but next to impossible on BML.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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adamdelozier said:
Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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I've benchmarked our internals and they come out to about 218 mb/s read our sdcards are average about 15 mb/s read
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Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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marcusant said:
Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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marcusant said:
This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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Whats funny is the HTC HD2 still runs ICS or can dual boot etc... and its 3 years old

I have had my head spun by this topic myself -- I've been doing a lot of searches and reading just about every result but I can't seem to find good general info on the subject. I've seen some loosely compiled info on dual booting CM9/CM7, and I've seen some info on the EL30 from sdcard mentioned before, but I had hoped to boot CM9/CleanGB as CleanGB is what I'm running stable and comfortable with now. I'd just like to be able to have stable and comfortable as a fallback for playing with ICS. I know running off the sd is supposed to be quite slow, I don't really know what to expect as to HOW slow, but the way I figured slow was an acceptable compromise for a stable fallback.
My bottom line has been that a lot of kernels seem to support this, yet it feels like there's very little info on doing it, and that just confuses me a skosh. Is CM9/CleanGB even possible due to kernel requirements?
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I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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lilajrestnom said:
I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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Ya I know. Coming from a T-mobile MyTouch3G Slide I hated the TP2 lol.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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What does pointing out the obvious have to do with what he said
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