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Best HD Video Encoder Setting for Galaxy S

Hi Devs and my friends...just thoughth of what would be the best HD video setting for galaxy S...is it,
1200X800 at mp4 format or what else.
Inviting your discussions on the same. Could you please come on guys and discuss on this and also the best video converter for Galaxy S
Thanks

There wouldn't seem to be much point in making it larger than 854*480p, given the screen size....
-bZj

The best setting as TESTED!
down8 said:
There wouldn't seem to be much point in making it larger than 854*480p, given the screen size....
-bZj
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Use AVS Video Converter (latest release)...
1. Select "To MP4"
2. make profile with 800*480...1500 bit [email protected] or 29.7 fps
Check...I am going to upload the entire ripped "Avatar Movie" @600mb piece for your ready ref...its HD while viewing with default video player of Galaxy S!
any question...please ask

I just set up handbrake with some iPad presets, and i think they would be perfect for the galaxy s as well. The iframe option is less than full 720p, but it should be mpre than good enough for displaying on the galaxy screen.

Unless encoding 1080p content, i don't see any point in encoding stuff for the galaxy s.
it reads just about anything.

suman_pal78 said:
Use AVS Video Converter (latest release)...
1. Select "To MP4"
2. make profile with 800*480...1500 bit [email protected] or 29.7 fps
Check...I am going to upload the entire ripped "Avatar Movie" @600mb piece for your ready ref...its HD while viewing with default video player of Galaxy S!
any question...please ask
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I've been using the same settings in Handbrake. Even with bit rates around 1800-2000bps it plays really well (colour me impressed). Have set audio to 128kbps AAC, as there isn't much point going above that with just headphones on.
I have to say having come across from the Milestone the screen on this thing is sumptuous. I'll never be able to go back to LCD.
Pika007 said:
Unless encoding 1080p content, i don't see any point in encoding stuff for the galaxy s.
it reads just about anything.
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Yeah, but obsessive-compulsive freaks like me (and I'm sure a few others here) just have to go for the optimal experience. Considering this thing is such a monster I think it does it justice to see what it's capable of.

Good point, but you do want to transcode blu rays. Im not sure how though.

Unimaginative said:
Have set audio to 128kbps AAC
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Can you really tell the difference between 128 and 96? I tried but couldn't.

INeedYourHelp said:
Can you really tell the difference between 128 and 96? I tried but couldn't.
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Nah. I meant anything above 128kbps, sorry. On my Milestone I used to use 96kbps but since the SGS is such a beast I figured 'what the hell?'

I have spent time on this, trying many ways as I want a great picture, so on any 1080p and 720p films I go for XMedia Recode/custom/mp4 h264/high/4.1/2 pass at 2000 bit/deblocking low/1280 by 720/mp3 192...I need this as I use sure headphones and they need good input/it works out at around 1gig or just under per hour you do, yes its lots of space but again there is new memory cards on the way (talk of tosh having made a 120gig nand chip) picture is great and its future proof for other mobiles in future as I dont want to have to do them again anytime soon, also on this setting it removes all black bars when the phone plays it (they remain if you watch on tv) but I also guess there is better ways but I just want good picture, and I did read there is problem with how our phone reads blacks, it uses the graphic chip which at the moment has problems understanding shades of black in lower than hd movies, this in turn leads to blocking but only in dark films, one guy found a way to pass this and says picture is great and blocking is almost gone in good rips but he did not state how to do this, so guess rest of us need someone or samsung to fix this, maybe on their first firmware download?

I don't see a point to re-encode movies if SGS reads every single one...

Dexter666 said:
I don't see a point to re-encode movies if SGS reads every single one...
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Because there are optimal settings for best quality/clarity.

we suffer from a cap of 4gb, no files bigger than that because of fat32 not letting us move bigger movie files, 720p movies sit around 6 7 8 gigs and 1080p around 10 12 13...some even more.

I just download 720p rips of tv episodes, anime and sports and drop the mkv directly into there.
If it is a movie and its below 4gb 720p i drop the mkv directly in there
If its a movie bigger i just use the hd encoder found here on xda and just do standard 800*480 with hd input.
Of if the movie has a 480 version ... ill grab that instead.
But most of the times i just drop the mkv into there ... mainly movies with subtitles i use the hd encoder.

Is it possible to put ext2 on the microsd card to get around the 4GB limit?
It is a Linux phone, after all. It should be able to handle it.

What do you guys use to Covert Videos for your N1

like the title says.. what do you use to get the best video quality and best conversions from movies for you N1 i use videora and Android Converter and they both are.. mediocre at best

I never managed to convert a video on ubuntu to get it playing on the nexus.
Now I have this software player that can play alot though...

I used ffmpeg, now I don't convert anymore 'cause I don't watch films on my phone
By the way, the script should still work:
avc (main executable): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1512702/android/avc/avc
functions (BASH functions): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1512702/android/avc/functions
preferences.avc (preferences file): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1512702/android/avc/preferences.avc

I use Super for my conversion needs. it's free but runs on windows.
Also since I'm lazy, I use Rockplayer that does a good job at playing nearly everything

I don't do much video encoding myself, but Handbreak always comes up in discussions about encoding software. I think it has a preset iPhone encoding which should also work pretty well for Android.

rock player... no re-encoding necessary

doubleTwist.... its like iTunes for iphone but faster. Just drag video to software, it will convert and transfer to your phone at highest bitrate possible to retain best quality.

JHaste said:
rock player... no re-encoding necessary
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Yea, this.

pfmiller said:
I don't do much video encoding myself, but Handbreak always comes up in discussions about encoding software. I think it has a preset iPhone encoding which should also work pretty well for Android.
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Handbrake is quite excellent; I've used it with the iPod preset with great success.
JHaste said:
rock player... no re-encoding necessary
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I like to convert videos to save space. I don't need a full-resolution movie on a 3.7-inch screen.

handbrake ftw!
adrianr514 said:
like the title says.. what do you use to get the best video quality and best conversions from movies for you N1 i use videora and Android Converter and they both are.. mediocre at best
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Handbrake. free and fast and so far the best video to mp4/m4v converter i've used.
http://www.handbrake.fr

another thumbs up for handbrake from me!

Converting videos is for chumps.
RockPlayer. Plays nearly anything.

GldRush98 said:
Converting videos is for chumps.
RockPlayer. Plays nearly anything.
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How many 12GB Blu-Ray rips would i get on my 16GB SD card without using Handbrake?

I use Any Video Converter, it's free and easy to use. I mainly watch Anime on my phone with subtitles so this works well. It can convert an .mkv into an mpeg4 and RockPlayer will still display the subtitles.
I can't seem to get Handbrake to keep the subtitles after converting .mkv's into .mp4. I've tried extracting the .srt file from the .mkv and burning them into the converted file with handbrake but it still doesn't work.

is there anyone covering video and or audio on the phone itself? would probably be hard on the battery but I can think of a couple of situations I would have needed this function.
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I don't know if you know, but encoding/decoding is one of the most CPU stressing processes. For sure you may re-encode a video, but while it takes ~30 minutes to convert a film on a dual core 3 Ghz, it may take ages on our phones.

vlc is comming soon to android i cant wait

DirkGently1 said:
How many 12GB Blu-Ray rips would i get on my 16GB SD card without using Handbrake?
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Your problem is using an uncompressed video format in the first place.

GldRush98 said:
Your problem is using an uncompressed video format in the first place.
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All video formats are compressed. The ones i use just happen to be compressed better. Start with a good quality source and work down. The Handbrake converted films look pretty good on an Amoled, WVGA screen at sizes as low as 700MB. At sizes of 2 Gigabyte or more they look incredible!

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Your problem is using an uncompressed video format in the first place.
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Ah, so you do need to convert it at some point, even though it's for chumps?

[Q] How do you play Video?

This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.

verusevo said:
This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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See: http://www.gigadroid.com/androidtalk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21

verusevo said:
This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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Theres an icon on your homescreen that says gallery. It plays movies as long as they are supported format. Try rockplayer universal it will play avis

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tencent.research.drop&feature=search_result
QQplayer works for me too. Multichannel too. i havent tried mkv files yet
edit: it does play MKV files and with subtitles

Great just what I was afraid of. I have almost a 1TB of movies/videos/TV shows. So my only options are to convert them all or use a non tablet android app to play unsupported files. Thanks for the info though guys.

inspiron41 said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tencent.research.drop&feature=search_result
QQplayer works for me too. Multichannel too. i havent tried mkv files yet
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mkv high profile will not work on Xoom with any current player and I tried them all.

Ya i just tried a couple of files i had already converted for my moms ipad. a couple were DVDrips and those played pretty much fine using rocklayer. But one was a converted 1080p music video. The music video played fairly well but there was a noticeable difference in the frame rate from the standard def videos.it wasnt at all choppy but it wasnt as fluid as i would have liked. If this is what im going to have to expect from HD video then im definitely not sold on this tab.

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Ya i just tried a couple of files i had already converted for my moms ipad. a couple were DVDrips and those played pretty much fine using rocklayer. But one was a converted 1080p music video. The music video played fairly well but there was a noticeable difference in the frame rate from the standard def videos.it wasnt at all choppy but it wasnt as fluid as i would have liked. If this is what im going to have to expect from HD video then im definitely not sold on this tab.
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It is certainly not what i expected. Hopefully it can be fixed with an update or app.

i downloaded dvd catalyst 4 online it was 9.99 (normally $20) and has a preset for motorola xoom
just load any dvd into your computer click go and when its done it will have you connect the xoom and transfer it
then click on the gallery app and there it is. the quality is great too

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63258/kw/video/p/7901,7906
You can use Handbrake, a free video encoding program. I found that redoing h.264 high profile to h.264 main profile(see the link) and dropping motion estimation method to diamond, Subpixel ME & Mode Decision to 0, and avg bitrate to 4000 kbps makes for a lower encode time(20ish minutes for 1 hour on my i7 920 win 7 64bit). Excellent quality too vs original.

I'm attempting to convert a 720p copy of inception using handbrake right now. (6 hrs estimated time) what a pain in the ass. I set it to the APPLE preset. Which I'm hoping/assuming is what one would use for the ipad. Ill let you guys know how it turns out. If it does work won't be so bad as I can just set a bunch of files to convert in queue while i sleep.

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I'm attempting to convert a 720p copy of inception using handbrake right now. (6 hrs estimated time) what a pain in the ass. I set it to the APPLE preset. Which I'm hoping/assuming is what one would use for the ipad. Ill let you guys know how it turns out. If it does work won't be so bad as I can just set a bunch of files to convert in queue while i sleep.
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Iceytea posted a handbrake preset for Xoom. I am trying it now and it is going much faster. 2 hour 720p movie took me 1 hour estimated with Apple universal preset and with this one 45 minutes. Can't comment on quality yet as it is still converting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11695846&postcount=50

someone on here said that mkv works on RockPlayer on the Xoom

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someone on here said that mkv works on RockPlayer on the Xoom
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mkv works with stock player as well just have to convert it to baseline. High profile mkv works with nothing on the Xoom. I tried them all.

verusevo said:
Great just what I was afraid of. I have almost a 1TB of movies/videos/TV shows. So my only options are to convert them all or use a non tablet android app to play unsupported files. Thanks for the info though guys.
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Dude, the SDK was just released this week. There will be a tablet optimized app within a month or so... your video files are not wasted.

[Q] Convert video for Iconia

Hi guys, it's about a week that i'm tring to create a flawlessy working HD video for the Iconia, i've tried a lot of config but no one works, so i tried with Up downloaded from iTunes and it works like a charm, with a very good quality in about 4GB with the native Honeycomb player. So i take my Tron Legacy BluRay and tried to create a MP4 with HandBrake with AppleTV 2 preset but when i play it with every player i've got on my tab (native, Mobo, VPlayer, RockPlayer, Vital and Nemo) it's like fast forwarding and i cant slow it down to normal speed. With MediaInfo i compare the downloaded Up m4a and my rip of Tron, they look the same (same ref frames, same b-frame and all) but the iTunes one works, mine not. Obviously on PC everything it's ok.
So guys, what do you use to convert your videos to playback on Iconia?

I took the advice from this post and was able to get a 720p conversion using Handbrake from a 1080p mp4 rip of Shaun of the Dead, using Loose Animorphic setting and 1280 Picture width. You have to go to the Advanced tab and set Maximum B-Frames to 0 (from default 2?) and Preferences/General/Output Files, uncheck "'Use iPod /iTunes friendly (.m4v) file extension for MP4'". Also a good idea to make sure the Audio's set to no more than 160kbps, I think that's the Honeycomb maximum audio rate for video files atm.
Oh, the 720p file ended up being ~2GB, looks good but not great picture (occasional blur artifacting on hard scene transitions.)

Thanks, did you use AppleTV preset?
I'm going to try with your settings (i thought i used the same, but probably i'm wrong), tomorrow morning i'm coming back to update.

I've been using this preset: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVBpeQNWbEQ and have had no problems

That preset works perfect.. Thanks!

I use normal and no b-frames and i got a playable videos but very choppy. I'm going to try that present, thanks Bootup.

I've used HandBrakeCLI under Linux to convert HD MKVs for use on my Iconia. It definitely works ok for 720p video but not yet tried any 1080p.
I've written a couple of scripts that convert a single mkv file and also a directory full of mkv files, they can be downloaded here: http://db.tt/Fq7knIr
Usage is simply: "mkv2iconia.sh inputfile.mkv" or just "bulkmkv2iconia.sh" for a full directory. They will both produce "inputfile.mp4" that can be played via hardware accelerated system player
Requirements: a linux command line, HandBrakeCLI, and a lot of time/patience.
Hope this is useful to someone.
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I'll give it a try if the preset posted before wont work for my rip of Tron Legacy.

I've been using a Windows application called DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com) to convert video. It had a lot of buzz about it on various forums, but I was skeptical. But it has a group of settings specifically for the Acer A500 (fast, HQ, 1080p) which make it easy to use and the new beta version works with DVDs or Blu-Rays (even copy protected ones if you have AnyDVD installed). I've done a few movies as tests and it seems to work very well.
And I was a user of Handbrake and RipBot264 previously.

I'm ripping a DVD now to try this process. It's getting good feedback,but I'll be able to decide for myself once I get it on tab. http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...rum/14292-ripping-videos-dvd-acer-solved.html
Update: Just transferred the movie onto my tab (Tangled @1.05 GB) and all I can say is wow!! You guys definitely must give this a try.

@DJ_Jedi
At the risk of sounding stupid, how are you using videos downloaded from iTunes on your Acer? I thought they were DRM protected.

Do all of your videos that you have encoded come out a bit choppy? Like skipping frames all the time.

butterflygirl said:
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At the risk of sounding stupid, how are you using videos downloaded from iTunes on your Acer? I thought they were DRM protected.
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I just take it, renamed to .mp4 and copy into my Movies folder, it said "Could not work, copy anyway?" i said yes and it works.
But great news guys, used the Xoom preset posted on the previous page and it works great! Picture quality it's not the best, a little bit lower than on my previous tries, but definitely good, i'm gonna try 2 ref frames and target size 4GB and not avg bitrate 3500.

i use rock player... it plays pretty much every video file

Here is a guide for ripping high quality DVD to a500. Read to the bottom, as video conversion is discussed as well.
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...rum/14292-ripping-videos-dvd-acer-solved.html
EDIT: Woops, that was already posted above.

I have been using dvdvidesoft for our other android phones with the iPhone/I pad settimgs with no issues. I switched to it from handbrake because it was faster...,very user friendly and wasn't quite the resource hog handbrake was

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I've been using a Windows application called DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com) to convert video. It had a lot of buzz about it on various forums, but I was skeptical. But it has a group of settings specifically for the Acer A500 (fast, HQ, 1080p) which make it easy to use and the new beta version works with DVDs or Blu-Rays (even copy protected ones if you have AnyDVD installed). I've done a few movies as tests and it seems to work very well.
And I was a user of Handbrake and RipBot264 previously.
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Been using DVD Catalyst for a long time now. I usually rip in a Divx encoded AVI wrapper, but the Iconia Tab d/n support AVI files. So I did a couple rips using the Apple TV HQ HD settings and that is working peachy. I didn't realize it had a specific device profile for the Acer (doh!).
I like this tablet, but the poor media file format support will keep it from being my main entertainment portable go to device. That will remain my Archos 70IT (250GB) for the time being.

I think i'll stick to Handbrake + Xoom Preset downloaded from here, good quality and about 3 hours conversion with a 2.1 dual core mobile CPU, guess how much it takes with an i7, because i'm going to buy a new PC this summer and i'm waver between i7 2600 and new AMD's Bulldozer...

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/free-dvd-video-software.htm
Converts in minutes

saeba said:
I've been using a Windows application called DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com) to convert video. It had a lot of buzz about it on various forums, but I was skeptical. But it has a group of settings specifically for the Acer A500 (fast, HQ, 1080p) which make it easy to use and the new beta version works with DVDs or Blu-Rays (even copy protected ones if you have AnyDVD installed). I've done a few movies as tests and it seems to work very well.
And I was a user of Handbrake and RipBot264 previously.
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I don't know what version you have but my dvd cat 4 is a retail copy and i do not see anything on the a500 . I do see the xoom but thats it. No Iconia a500

Rip DVD's

Can someone recommend a program to rip/convert DVD's?
If you have, how large are the movie files?

I've been using DVD Catalyst and it works just fine.

Handbrake
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DVDFab is my savior.. its up to you how large a movie will be depending on quality or file type.

Dvd catalyst is my fav
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I've been using DVD Catalyst and it works just fine.
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Handbreak or DVDFab

DVD Catalyst
I am using DVD Catalyst!! It is the best $9.95 I have spent!! Recommend it!

jadesse said:
Can someone recommend a program to rip/convert DVD's?
If you have, how large are the movie files?
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I use WinX DVD Ripper Platinum. Got the license for free during one of their promotions.
1GB will cover about 1h40m of content at 1800 kbps video with 160 kbp stereo audio.

Using DVD Catalyst what device should I use. I tried the Motorola Xoom but movie will not play. Am I missing something.
Resolution: 1280x800
Video: 1500 Kbps
Sound: 128 Kbps
Mode: Stereo

has dvd catalyst been updated to reflect the improvement in video play back in honeycomb 3.1?

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Using DVD Catalyst what device should I use. I tried the Motorola Xoom but movie will not play. Am I missing something.
Resolution: 1280x800
Video: 1500 Kbps
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That's what i use Xoom HQ2 but the DVD Catalyst site has directions on how to find what works best...really it's trial and error starting with the lowest quality that you will find acceptable.

keroppilee said:
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Not yet. I've been working on it, but from what I have seen, I can't see a difference in quality. Some extra options can be enabled, but I am already getting great quality. It might save 100Kbps or so though.
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Using DVD Catalyst what device should I use. I tried the Motorola Xoom but movie will not play. Am I missing something.
Resolution: 1280x800
Video: 1500 Kbps
Sound: 128 Kbps
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Just use one of the Xoom profiles, and it should work just fine. However, if you changed some settings, or are trying to convert things like Digital Copy video files, you might run into complications.
Please have a look in the Android section on my website. If you can't find anything there that might help you, let me know what you are actually trying to convert.
Without knowing that, the only suggestion I can offer is to update to the beta. Information on how to do that is also listed on the website.

Handbrake always causes my computer to crash.
I bought DVD Catalyst today after reading this thread and have already ripped several movies quickly and easily. Took a minute to install, zero time to figure out how to use it, cost only 10 bucks and ripped a movie in no time http://www.tools4movies.com/

And I bought it using my paypal. That's always a huge plus for me.

dvdcatalyst said:
Not yet. I've been working on it, but from what I have seen, I can't see a difference in quality. Some extra options can be enabled, but I am already getting great quality. It might save 100Kbps or so though.
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High profile h.264 is more computationally intensive to encode and decode, but theoretically saves on file size for the same quality.
Is your product actually upscaling the 480p DVD source to 1280x800? That seems like an incredible waste of space.
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High profile h.264 is more computationally intensive to encode and decode, but theoretically saves on file size for the same quality.
Is your product actually upscaling the 480p DVD source to 1280x800? That seems like an incredible waste of space.
sassafras
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The quality also depends greatly on the source. With DVDs as a source it might shave off 100 MB or so, which is something that in my opinion doest justify the reduction in speed and possible performance issues on the device itself.
While DVD Cat has the capability to upscale video, it actually keeps the original resolution of the video by default if the selected resolution in the device profile is higher. Having the upscaling done by the video player is much more efficient.

dvdcatalyst said:
The quality also depends greatly on the source. With DVDs as a source it might shave off 100 MB or so, which is something that in my opinion doest justify the reduction in speed and possible performance issues on the device itself.
While DVD Cat has the capability to upscale video, it actually keeps the original resolution of the video by default if the selected resolution in the device profile is higher. Having the upscaling done by the video player is much more efficient.
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I agree with you on both accounts.
High profile savings are of much more benefit with large frame sizes (720p and up) where the hit in encoding time is offset by that reduction in file size.
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Earlier in the thread it seemed to me that someone had implied that your software was upscaling the video. I was getting ready to launch into a diatribe on the futility and ludicrousness of such a choice.
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it is a question I receive daily. I have numerous posts on the subject on my website as well as in the user guide and faq. The setting to enable upscaling is there, but it is not enabled by default. It only serves a purpose if you really need your videos to have that specific resolution.

Does DVD Catalyst also convert videos? I have a video that it to massive and must have to many fps i suppose because it skips. I tried covering it to a small file to play on my HTC Inspire with Hamster soft but after 3 hours it is only 15% done. I tried to convert it with DVD Catalyst but all it did after an hour was create a file consisting of 0 bytes.